Why The Hyper Neo Geo 64 Failed!
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2020
- The Hyper Neo Geo 64 was supposed to be the AES and MVS replcament! A technological marvel! Yet, the hardware failed miserabely when it was introduced in late 90's. Many #fightinggames fans were hoping the new system would mean new amazing games to revitalize the #FGC
Let's delve into the history of the Hyper Neo Geo
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What the hell. The three board setup is just insane, no wonder it failed. Great video though! Always wanted to know more about this system(s).
I would die for a Hyper Neo Geo 64 collection. The impossible must be done.
Please ask SNK to make a collection of Hyper NeoGeo 64 games for current platforms and translate Samurai Shodown RPG into English, these games are currently inaccessible to fans.
PS: I love Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition.
I sign for that too, I love the samurai shodows for this arcade
SamShoRPG fan translation just got released JOY TO THE WORLD !!!
I still shake my head at all the gaming companies that abandoned 2D games.
If they started with games like Buriki One it would have done better. They should have translated the popular Ips into 3D after they got the hang of 3d.
Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition had a PS1 port. I still play it.
Nice video. I was always fascinated by the hiper 64 since I saw a preview on a game magazine but I never ever had the chance to even find one around!
My country, and more specifically my hometown, was lucky enough to get one unit on the local arcade back in 2000-2001. Funnily, it had the Samsho games and Wild Ambition, the latter being, in a ysit of faith, the last game before said arcade shut down a few years later.
While having fond memories with the games, let's face it: it sadly didn't live up to the hype. A shame the hardware choices with the arcade resulted in its demise and its potential wasted.
Sad to see it fail.
Agreed. It is too bad. Wanted to see how they planned to reboot Art of Fighting in 3d.
Why they would put CGI back in the day as representations of the graphics still boggles me only Final Fantasy 8 and parasite eve 2 delivered with the pre-rendered backgrounds
They were hoping you believe those were in-game graphics and to keep up the expectations/hype for the system.😆
SNK were the kings of 2D and didn't manage the jump to 3D. Imagine the scene would've been more receptive for another 2D machine from Neo Geo - the possibilities!
Buriki one and Samurai shodown 64 are my favorite fighters on the HNG64. Would love to know if there are some unreleased games for HNG64. Maybe we can see some new indie games for the HNG64 in the future?
Shouldve given Nakoruru her own arcade style 3d platformer
How would that have worked? Nakoruru's character appeal is grounded in sword combat and animal friends, and while those were big in 2D platformers, 3D game tech shifted the styles so sword combat had dedicated games and animal friends were difficult to implement even in DK64.
Plus, Nakoruru had a visual novel spinoff. They were probably not going to try anything more ambitious or budget-heavy.
@@cabbusses 3d visuals, 2d gameplay(arcade style)
@@Raiden3651 That helps visualize the idea in my head at least, but it begs the question of what you could do with a Nakoruru 3D Platformer on the Hyper NeoGeo 64 that would not work better on vanilla NeoGeo, which was still having games developed for it.
Remember that this was an era where 3D movement was a sales pitch and "2.5D" games which did not use the z-axis were frowned upon.
@@cabbusses id never ask SNK to make a game outside their comfort zone(using Z axis). So I guess it'd have niche appeal ala Buriki One(no sidesteps, but still only NG64 game that still has tournies today). Then again, Klonoa moved past niche status
I wonder if anyone has a home console prototype?
I wish there was software to emulate this it looks cool!
They need to study how they made their games look with this. If the specs were as high as the Model 2 their games would have really made a splash with the way they did stuff.
I just got mine today with FF wild ambition! It is really fun!
WOW! That was fast, glad it arrived safely & everything is working okay. Fatal Fury : Wild Ambition is limited, but fun. The other fighting games will cost you though, especially SS64 and Buriki One.
Congrats man! Enjoy it!
NeoGeoNow Yeah, I have to say FF wild ambition is very underrated as it’s a really good game! Also, how do you hook you hyper 64 up to a flatscreen. I can’t get mine to work on my gbs 8200 and only get it to run on my crt.
@@evanb4466 I use a supergun that connects to an ossc. The ossc works great from my hyper neogeo 64, i get a super clean picture, but from the aes i get shitty picture. which is weird.
Super interesting as usual 💪💪💪
I am a Neo Geo AES/MVS/CDZ collector who has been an SNK fan since the days of Guerilla War. Having said that, I have never even seen a Hyper Neo Geo 64 in my life. I remember EGM/GamePro covering the hardware before it launched. After doing quite a bit of research, I am finding some very peculiar takes on the hardware that do not make sense.
The one that really gets me is when people say, "The hardware is weak." The Hyper Neo Geo 64 had the exact same processor as the N64 at a higher clockrate. It also had double the amount of RAM, which is also clocked higher than the N64. The carts are said to be so massive that they dwarf the AES/MVS ones. From what I see, it runs circles around the PSX, making it a solid performer for a 5th generation machine. The build is insane and not very practical for home application, like with the AES. The other thing one should consider with the Hyper Neo Geo 64 is...what it lacked in power could have been boosted considerably through its massive carts. There is no reason to think SNK could not slap a second or even third N64 processor inside a game that needs it. Don't forget, this is the company that sold carts at $200 to $250 a pop in 1990.
I just was able to order Xtreme Rally for the cheap! Now to find a driving board!
At least imho it was pretty much a failure mostly because of a certain console
seriously the playstation had comparable graphics and you could play it at home .
It was pretty much the beginning of the end for arcades .
Also obviously it did not help that it was outdated in terms of graphics when it came out
they just had to make 2D characters with 3D background to start , and gradually move to 3D charcaters
This system would have been good in 95. for them to have pseudo 3d game it would have needed to be in 93-94 to have garnered influence. Consider if the dream cast was launched with the game cube and xbox in 2001. That's what happened to hyper neo geo. Nintendo would not give them an opportunity to put out the arcade version in 95 to build recognition and then release a home version in 97 as a mature audience system to the n64s youthful marketing target.
So far, Shiki was integrated into 2.5D Samurai Shodown.
I would love to see all the Hyper Neo Geo on Switch.
I wish it was emulated better
Samurai Shodown 64 (the first one) is probably SNK's version of Super Streetfighter II (non turbo), the slow, completely unfun version that promptly got fixed in the next upgrade. I used to have a HNG64, and I can't figure out which was a bigger waste of potential between HNG64 and CPS3. Neither got to mature because of low sales, but both were very interesting custom architectures before arcade games just became PCs. But Sam Sho 64 is literally unplayable, I could not detect a single ounce of fun to be had in playing it. I still want to play Buriki One someday, is it emulateable?
Buen video. 👍👍
Nice video but I still fatal fury wild ambition and samurai shodiwn hyper neo Geo 64
This never reach the Philippines, was very hype to see this machine on GamePro magazine. I think the mediocrity and the hard headedness of SNK corporation would doom the whole company. Im a dedicated KOF and SS player
About Road's Edge: There was one at the Kingdome in Seattle before it got torn down, which is the only place I ever saw a HNG64 on location. It was quite fun gameplay wise and I thought the framerate and fluidity was really nice at the time. I think the comparison to Scud Race is unfair. There were ALWAYS top of the line very expensive driving games with cutting edge graphics in the arcades (almost always by Sega) and the much cheaper, less deluxe driving games that focused on gameplay and fun rather than graphics. Even sega made some of these cheaper games. So back in the day you would be WOWED by Scudrace and Daytona 2, but you would be more than happy to also play Cruis'n, Hydrothunder and Wangan titles that were never the best graphically when they came out. Road's edge wasn't trying to impress anyone graphically, it's from a long line of fun but not cutting edge arcade racing games. =)
Its a shame because i bet SNK thought the Hyper 64 graphics were "cutting edge". So, yeah, they were expecting to impress graphically, but no, they didn´t.
@@jsr734They didn't impress graphically but their engineers are not stupid and they knew from its inception that it wasn't as powerful as Model 3...there's a reason HNG64 is standard res and Model 3 is medium res.
@@airthrowDBT I would like to know at what resolution does de HNG64 work? It seems Samurai Showdown is rendering at something like 320x240, but Fatal Fury Wild Ambition seems to be rendering at a higher res.
@jsr734 Standard res is 320x240 240p/480i, but that isn't necessarily the native resolution of the HNG64, a lot of arcade boards don't have square pixels (CPS3, etc), is it an emulator telling you Wild Ambition is a different res than Sam Sho?
@@airthrowDBT No, i have watched other gameplay in real hardware, and to me it looks more smoother, with less jaggies than Samurai Shodown 64/ Warrior´s Rage.
So you couldn't swap cartridges for the system? That was one of the coolest things about Neo Geo, why would they take that away?
Anyway, the only Hyper Neo Geo 64 game I've played was Fatal Fury Wild Ambition, and that's only because it was ported to the ps1. Yes, I own a PS1 copy of Wild Ambition!
Same
I can tell you why.
for the NeoGeo, Piracy was EXTREMELY RAMPANT for the system, and SNK wasn’t making back revenue, it would make sense as to why they would take such drastic steps in order to combat piracy.
2Dに強い基盤組んだのに、ボスから3Dやれと言われて大爆死したハードだったわな…
Does anyone know what this game is 1:10 ??
@@fahrilian Not Rage of the Dragon. The game right before Rage of the Dragon. The one that looks like Ninja Gaiden.
It's Ganryu for the Neo-Geo.
@@MonsieurMaouji Thank you!
I have one hyper64 for collection and some carts like FF and SS, TBH I am not really like these 3d games even I am a big SNK fan
Anyone else happy we have ACA (Arcade Archive) Neo Geo on the Switch?
Looks like a game that was made for the PlayStation - absolutely ugly graphics for an arcade system
ACA should put these games on consoles.
Never been emulated 100% which is a surprise.
Please someone ask to SNK to make a new version of those games for modern consoles including PC, this games are currently inaccessible to fans, I love the samurai shodowns for this arcade
What a rip off of the N64, zero originality with its naming.