The differences are that asperger is a more specific subset within asd and features less severe symptoms, higher functioning skills and no developmental delays (except for social). In addition to this aspergers syndrome required lacked of language/speech delays/impairment in development or cognitive/intellectual delays/impairment in development meaning that those with aspergers had average to above average intellectual and speech skills compared to NTs. Aspergers stressed social challenges as the central problem as many other pdds at the time but unlike others aspergers did not require that much in the behaviour or communication category except for obsessive restricted interest and peculiarities with non-verbal forms of communication. Aspergers showed a bit below average development in coordination compared to NTs but were still more developed than the lower functioning asds. Aspergers was typically diagnosed way later often during school years around 9-12ish. Aspergers syndrome had also higher comorbidities with Depressive disorders, Anxiety disorders(especially social anxiety disorders), OCD and ADHD. Aspergers children often have desire to interact socially but often fail because of social problems unlike others forms of asd that dont see the significance of friendships.
Why do we need therapies, as a highly functioning Asperger's individual .. do I want to change, do I need to change? Do I need to see all the social cues that would allow me to date? .. or am I better off concentrating on my interests, .. becoming v special at my chosen path. What therapy would materially improve my life? .. and do I wish to be like all the rest of the socializing party animals? I can be a neurosurgeon or an artist who has trouble catching social cues, dating .. who needs the social cues to sail? Let me be me.
As a person who spent most of my life trying to blend in and find a wife and a family and still losing everything and being alone again. I can say you're better off focusing on yourself and becoming very successful at whatever you do. This will connect you with others and bring around the right kind significant other that may love and accept you with all your flaws. That's all I ever wanted ... just be wary of sycophants they are everywhere . So look out for narcissism and avoid at all costs.
@James B What are you talking about? ‘Red pill’ is an adjective and a noun. Why are you making it into the past tense of a verb? A red pill is a tangible object/thing, not an action which you can do to something. I am so confused as to what people mean when they say ‘red pilled’. It is non-sensical and so frustrating to deal with as an autistic person. Say what you mean ffs, stop using obscure non-sensical code words!
@James B You mean put yourself in a mindset where you believe yourself to be educated and to hold a knowledge about reality, all while manipulating and alienating the people around you to achieve whatever ends you personally want and believe you are entitled to. Ironically you people are the most easily manipulated, just need to pretend the idea being presented to you is one that some other person or force doesn't want you to know.
"Why do we need therapies, as a highly functioning Asperger's individual" No one said you did. "do I want to change" Apparently not. "do I need to change" No. "Do I need to see all the social cues that would allow me to date" If you want to date, yes. If you don't want to date, no. That said: there are no 'social cues' I am aware of that only impact dating, short of initiating sex possibly, that don't also impact other interpersonal relationships, like friends and employment. "or am I better off concentrating on my interests" You could probably be fine either way. If you aren't better off 'trying to date', maybe you would be if you grasped the social cues you have decided you need for dating. Therapy would be how you achieve being better off dating than you are isolating yourself and focusing on your interests. If you don't want to, don't, but the role of therapy in the situation you yourself are describing is very obvious. "becoming v special at my chosen path" You aren't special. You will just be another human, regardless. No better or worse than anyone else. Do what makes you happy. "What therapy would materially improve my life" It would if you're trying to achieve having a partner while living a happy life, apparently. What part of your life needs improvement? We can't answer that question until you describe what exactly you are considering going to therapy to address. It seems nothing. It seems you're just indicating that you do not want to have therapy. Why does that entail you drawing generalized conclusions about how appropriate therapy is for autistic people? "and do I wish to be like all the rest of the socializing party animals" You just described your inability to form or maintain a basic human relationship. Why you're trying to disparage people who don't have disordered socialization at all, neverminded construing them to be "socializing party animals"? I don't know what you wish for but dating someone isn't being a party animal. "I can be a neurosurgeon or an artist who has trouble catching social cues, dating .. who needs the social cues to sail?" Anyone who wants intimate human contact in their lives, You're assertion that autistic people don't need that is wholly wrong. You're deluding yourself. "Let me be me." You can be you, no one is stopping you. People on the autistic spectrum keep killing themselves but I guess that's just because they have too much therapy.
Well, Aspergers have a lot of the same issues that everyone on the spectrum but with way less intensity compared to some, so I still think it's fair to identify Aspegers as autistics. You could say that Aspegers is a subtype of autism.
It seems making the diagnosis of autism so broad has rendered it functionally meaningless today it tells me almost nothing about what to expect from an individual at least aspergers defined a specific subset of traits
The fact is people discriminate against people with Aspergers or if you have those characteristics so they are left without help, when they don't have the social interaction as other people.
Some people say that "Asperger's Syndrome is not the same as Autism" well what am I supposed to say? It makes sense to group any Syndromes associated with Autism into the Autism Spectrum, it's too much and confusing if any Syndromes that looks related to Autism was separated!
Im an aspie myself. So here is my take. Dont stress about the label. Science develops ( and psychology has a lot of developing to do). its not like the help you need siddenly changes because you were formerly diagnosed with autism and are now are on the spectrum. Your likes and dislikes are still the same. You life challenged are still the same and perhaps there maybe have been an advance in paychology that makes help you get a little more effectice.
2:06 This is one of the issues right here. I understand that if you were diagnosed with Aspergers (once know colloquially as little professors), you would balk at being lumped in with those who have greater support needs or who seem lower functioning, but think of how this feels from the perspective of one of these so called lower functioning people - "you detest my condition so much that you reject even being associated with me". The issue i see is, because autism is a spectrum, there are going to be people dotted all along the spectrum, some of which require more support due to comorbid conditions. If aspergers and autism have become more aligned from a clinical diagnosis standpoint and it helps us to better understand the condition, it might be time to swallow the pride.
My son startd to talk with 15 month,and at 5 read used to read very well,he likes to talk about geography,to troll people,and he was diagnosed as Autistic,It is realy difficult when fathers of autistic come to me when they discover my son is "autistic" because its like my son is from Mars and theirs are from Saturn,The only thing that seems to be comon are the sensorial ,but even in this my son are not so annoyed,So I think there is so less in common,that rhinitis, sinusitis, bonchit should be the same.It is a father point of view.I think they could be called Neuro atipical,like saying NA Autistic 1,NA Asperger,it would made less confusion,and frustate people less.When I say taht with 5 years my son was able to read portuguese,and Understand several words in English some autistic fathers think I´m lying,For him it was very easy to read and a nightmare to start write.He has also TDAH wich for me is the worst thing he has to live with.'autism" don´t complicate his life like TDAH does,He started to take Ritalin some days ago,and I´m seeing miracles.I think Aspergers have much more other related deseases than autistics,It doesn´t take to much for my son to go from happy to depressed,somethig that I don´t think autistic fathers have to deal with.Since 9 he thinks everybody is talking about him,juding him,making plans about him,I think autistic with 9 don´t even talk about people around them,For me its apples compared to pears just because they´re kind of cousins.Probably some powerfull burocrat that never had as Autistic/Asperger Son took a decision that would "help" the professionals to get work,or increase profits,rather than really help.
I love the fact that your son loves to troll people, lmao. People tend to perceive us aspegers/autistic people as if we were all very serious and boring people with no sense of humor, which is completely wrong.
Autism is a Spectrum, and ‘Asperger’s’ is on it. An individual can place on different points of the Spectrum throughout their lives. I know, because I HAVE. During the period of time I was Masking, people didn’t even realize I was autistic. When I was 3 years old, I was mute, and spend every day for a year sitting on the floor rocking and playing with my hands. I didn’t respond to anyone during that time. Eventually Masking failed me and I entered extreme burnout, losing most of the skills I’d gained. Now, I struggle daily with tasks and am on multiple medications to get through life. If you’re fortunate enough to call yourself ‘Asperger’s’, be glad you place there on the Autism Spectrum and know that it can change!
In 'ye oldie days', its was Aspies and Auties - now ideas of limited resource and it all being a Zero Sum Game, have created division and tiers, and arguments about 'high' and 'low functioning' / needs' (low needs). Hans Asperger getting pulled through the mud and being defined as a Nazi without one drop of Nuance, hasn't helped. Whether it is a spectrum, or constellation, there is a mudding of terminology and references as scientifical/medical language level mixes with popular understand. And heck, stereotypes don't exactly help to clarify. For example, you are diagnosed by deficits because that may for fill medical needs and services; I mean, who goes to the doctor if all is hunky dory! I don't think a CZcams video and comments is going to sort it all out; but it could certainly be a starting place and give towards a process of identify problems that continue to muddy the waters. At the moment, I have more questions than answers - and that's not the deficit that some portray it to be.
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Finally someone who says it like it is. People with Aspergers don't feel like they can be associated with low function Autism.
This was a complaint about the DSM-V, not the difference between aspergers and autism.
The differences are that asperger is a more specific subset within asd and features less severe symptoms, higher functioning skills and no developmental delays (except for social). In addition to this aspergers syndrome required lacked of language/speech delays/impairment in development or cognitive/intellectual delays/impairment in development meaning that those with aspergers had average to above average intellectual and speech skills compared to NTs. Aspergers stressed social challenges as the central problem as many other pdds at the time but unlike others aspergers did not require that much in the behaviour or communication category except for obsessive restricted interest and peculiarities with non-verbal forms of communication. Aspergers showed a bit below average development in coordination compared to NTs but were still more developed than the lower functioning asds. Aspergers was typically diagnosed way later often during school years around 9-12ish. Aspergers syndrome had also higher comorbidities with Depressive disorders, Anxiety disorders(especially social anxiety disorders), OCD and ADHD. Aspergers children often have desire to interact socially but often fail because of social problems unlike others forms of asd that dont see the significance of friendships.
Why do we need therapies, as a highly functioning Asperger's individual .. do I want to change, do I need to change? Do I need to see all the social cues that would allow me to date? .. or am I better off concentrating on my interests, .. becoming v special at my chosen path. What therapy would materially improve my life? .. and do I wish to be like all the rest of the socializing party animals? I can be a neurosurgeon or an artist who has trouble catching social cues, dating .. who needs the social cues to sail? Let me be me.
As a person who spent most of my life trying to blend in and find a wife and a family and still losing everything and being alone again. I can say you're better off focusing on yourself and becoming very successful at whatever you do. This will connect you with others and bring around the right kind significant other that may love and accept you with all your flaws. That's all I ever wanted ... just be wary of sycophants they are everywhere . So look out for narcissism and avoid at all costs.
@James B What are you talking about? ‘Red pill’ is an adjective and a noun. Why are you making it into the past tense of a verb? A red pill is a tangible object/thing, not an action which you can do to something. I am so confused as to what people mean when they say ‘red pilled’. It is non-sensical and so frustrating to deal with as an autistic person. Say what you mean ffs, stop using obscure non-sensical code words!
@James B nope for the most part Redhill is not really. The blackpill is the truth ac
@James B You mean put yourself in a mindset where you believe yourself to be educated and to hold a knowledge about reality, all while manipulating and alienating the people around you to achieve whatever ends you personally want and believe you are entitled to.
Ironically you people are the most easily manipulated, just need to pretend the idea being presented to you is one that some other person or force doesn't want you to know.
"Why do we need therapies, as a highly functioning Asperger's individual"
No one said you did.
"do I want to change"
Apparently not.
"do I need to change"
No.
"Do I need to see all the social cues that would allow me to date"
If you want to date, yes. If you don't want to date, no. That said: there are no 'social cues' I am aware of that only impact dating, short of initiating sex possibly, that don't also impact other interpersonal relationships, like friends and employment.
"or am I better off concentrating on my interests"
You could probably be fine either way. If you aren't better off 'trying to date', maybe you would be if you grasped the social cues you have decided you need for dating. Therapy would be how you achieve being better off dating than you are isolating yourself and focusing on your interests. If you don't want to, don't, but the role of therapy in the situation you yourself are describing is very obvious.
"becoming v special at my chosen path"
You aren't special. You will just be another human, regardless. No better or worse than anyone else. Do what makes you happy.
"What therapy would materially improve my life"
It would if you're trying to achieve having a partner while living a happy life, apparently. What part of your life needs improvement? We can't answer that question until you describe what exactly you are considering going to therapy to address. It seems nothing. It seems you're just indicating that you do not want to have therapy. Why does that entail you drawing generalized conclusions about how appropriate therapy is for autistic people?
"and do I wish to be like all the rest of the socializing party animals"
You just described your inability to form or maintain a basic human relationship. Why you're trying to disparage people who don't have disordered socialization at all, neverminded construing them to be "socializing party animals"? I don't know what you wish for but dating someone isn't being a party animal.
"I can be a neurosurgeon or an artist who has trouble catching social cues, dating .. who needs the social cues to sail?"
Anyone who wants intimate human contact in their lives, You're assertion that autistic people don't need that is wholly wrong. You're deluding yourself.
"Let me be me."
You can be you, no one is stopping you.
People on the autistic spectrum keep killing themselves but I guess that's just because they have too much therapy.
being identified as autistic pains me, when I was actually diagnosed with Asperger's' even though I am passionate about mathematics and excel at it.
Can you program?
I got frusrated having this ADHD , but with the use of dr imenherbal on CZcams herbal remedy , i have been able to get rid of ADHD
Im in high school 4th grade rn and Im not that good at math rn but I really liked math in 1st and 2nd grade and I was one of the best in class
Well, Aspergers have a lot of the same issues that everyone on the spectrum but with way less intensity compared to some, so I still think it's fair to identify Aspegers as autistics. You could say that Aspegers is a subtype of autism.
Whst about autism as Just a comordibity? Thats whst i say. Were are functional after all
Those of us in the middle get overlooked.
My understanding is one wants friends and tries very hard and fail the other one doesn't care about friendship
Pretty perceptive take on it. I also consider one highly functioning the other not so much.
I got frusrated having this ADHD , but with the use of dr imenherbal on CZcams herbal remedy , i have been able to get rid of ADHD
It seems making the diagnosis of autism so broad has rendered it functionally meaningless today it tells me almost nothing about what to expect from an individual at least aspergers defined a specific subset of traits
The fact is people discriminate against people with Aspergers or if you have those characteristics so they are left without help, when they don't have the social interaction as other people.
I was diagnosed with PDD-NOS back in the day, and after time, it change to Atypical Autism and is part if the Autism Spectrum!
Some people say that "Asperger's Syndrome is not the same as Autism" well what am I supposed to say? It makes sense to group any Syndromes associated with Autism into the Autism Spectrum, it's too much and confusing if any Syndromes that looks related to Autism was separated!
Im an aspie myself. So here is my take. Dont stress about the label. Science develops ( and psychology has a lot of developing to do). its not like the help you need siddenly changes because you were formerly diagnosed with autism and are now are on the spectrum. Your likes and dislikes are still the same. You life challenged are still the same and perhaps there maybe have been an advance in paychology that makes help you get a little more effectice.
2:06 This is one of the issues right here. I understand that if you were diagnosed with Aspergers (once know colloquially as little professors), you would balk at being lumped in with those who have greater support needs or who seem lower functioning, but think of how this feels from the perspective of one of these so called lower functioning people - "you detest my condition so much that you reject even being associated with me". The issue i see is, because autism is a spectrum, there are going to be people dotted all along the spectrum, some of which require more support due to comorbid conditions. If aspergers and autism have become more aligned from a clinical diagnosis standpoint and it helps us to better understand the condition, it might be time to swallow the pride.
My son startd to talk with 15 month,and at 5 read used to read very well,he likes to talk about geography,to troll people,and he was diagnosed as Autistic,It is realy difficult when fathers of autistic come to me when they discover my son is "autistic" because its like my son is from Mars and theirs are from Saturn,The only thing that seems to be comon are the sensorial ,but even in this my son are not so annoyed,So I think there is so less in common,that rhinitis, sinusitis, bonchit should be the same.It is a father point of view.I think they could be called Neuro atipical,like saying NA Autistic 1,NA Asperger,it would made less confusion,and frustate people less.When I say taht with 5 years my son was able to read portuguese,and Understand several words in English some autistic fathers think I´m lying,For him it was very easy to read and a nightmare to start write.He has also TDAH wich for me is the worst thing he has to live with.'autism" don´t complicate his life like TDAH does,He started to take Ritalin some days ago,and I´m seeing miracles.I think Aspergers have much more other related deseases than autistics,It doesn´t take to much for my son to go from happy to depressed,somethig that I don´t think autistic fathers have to deal with.Since 9 he thinks everybody is talking about him,juding him,making plans about him,I think autistic with 9 don´t even talk about people around them,For me its apples compared to pears just because they´re kind of cousins.Probably some powerfull burocrat that never had as Autistic/Asperger Son took a decision that would "help" the professionals to get work,or increase profits,rather than really help.
I have fybromyalgia mother has ms i think the stress it causes beings in other things
I love the fact that your son loves to troll people, lmao. People tend to perceive us aspegers/autistic people as if we were all very serious and boring people with no sense of humor, which is completely wrong.
Your herbs has work wonders in my family.
Thanks for the help Dr Oyalo for saving my son from autism spectrum with your herbs. Your herbs is the best
Autism is a Spectrum, and ‘Asperger’s’ is on it. An individual can place on different points of the Spectrum throughout their lives. I know, because I HAVE. During the period of time I was Masking, people didn’t even realize I was autistic. When I was 3 years old, I was mute, and spend every day for a year sitting on the floor rocking and playing with my hands. I didn’t respond to anyone during that time. Eventually Masking failed me and I entered extreme burnout, losing most of the skills I’d gained. Now, I struggle daily with tasks and am on multiple medications to get through life.
If you’re fortunate enough to call yourself ‘Asperger’s’, be glad you place there on the Autism Spectrum and know that it can change!
Any pain symptoms and I suppose your hypomobility to
In 'ye oldie days', its was Aspies and Auties - now ideas of limited resource and it all being a Zero Sum Game, have created division and tiers, and arguments about 'high' and 'low functioning' / needs' (low needs). Hans Asperger getting pulled through the mud and being defined as a Nazi without one drop of Nuance, hasn't helped. Whether it is a spectrum, or constellation, there is a mudding of terminology and references as scientifical/medical language level mixes with popular understand. And heck, stereotypes don't exactly help to clarify. For example, you are diagnosed by deficits because that may for fill medical needs and services; I mean, who goes to the doctor if all is hunky dory! I don't think a CZcams video and comments is going to sort it all out; but it could certainly be a starting place and give towards a process of identify problems that continue to muddy the waters. At the moment, I have more questions than answers - and that's not the deficit that some portray it to be.
Thumbs down 👎 ! Your thumb nail says The Difference Between Autism and Asperger’s ! That is the information I an looking for ! You talked about medical coverage ! In that case change the title to Medical coverage for people with Asperger’s ! 😡😡😡👎👎👎
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