Rich White Women, Pinkwashed Capitalism, & The Downfall Of The Girlboss
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In this episode, Chelsea unpacks the rise and fall of the "girlboss," and what it says about our shared cultural values.
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I wish I could multi-like this video essay! Very well done!
Feminism is the new nunnery
Good luck the police state is here the government sponsored gender wars really pre occupied ppl and allowed the military industrial complex to take over .
Vaccine passports on the way were every human is barcoded like cattle.
Speak up or become a government slave
LOVED THIS. One of the greatest workplace disappointments of my twenties was getting a female boss and then being disappointed when they didn't practice any semblance of solidarity.
What were you expecting? What does solidarity even mean in that context?
Leena I completely understand what you're saying. I can't even count the number of times other women didn't support me in the workforce.
@@Nikki-lodeon them not being a mysognistic pce of trash would be a good start 😂😂
I feel you, I quickly realised that a decent person male or female was a better boss. It still stings though.
I work in a small office that is currently 8/10 female. At one time (when we were 90% female!) we had an office social gathering where several of the grown, over 35 women, professed that they preferred men over women. That they preferred men as friends, and that they preferred working with men.
So not only were fully grown women doing the “not like other girls” schtick, they maybe didn’t realize they were openly confessing that they didn’t like each other very much. Very strange vibes! Needless to say I do not trust any of them.
Thank you for the comments about how instead of women being told to stop apologizing or empathetic, that society should expect men to be more empathetic and mindful of their actions and behaviors. Why is empathy constantly framed as a weakness we need to overcome? Excellent points.
Because empathy tradtionally hindered profit.
Because it's too feminine. Masculinity is praised in the workplace
Yes. ❤️❤️
(but I do apologise too often. It sometimes makes me look guilty. Last week I was accused by a fellow shopper of stealing. And me - wondering whether I misheard - just went "I'm sorry?" instead of: "I'm literally running my stuff through the self checkout!")
Why is empathy a weakness?
Ask anyone who has dealt with manipulative or narcissistic scumbags. Exploiting empathy is one of the most common ways those absuive fucks chain you down and keep you in.
@@OzixiThrill Agree! But they're the ones who need to change their behavior. I don't.
I think what you mentioned about male leaders adjusting to communicating with compassion is interesting and more useful than women being pushed to communicate like men.
I WISH I can remember the episode but Hidden Brain (NPR) did an excellent podcast on comparing male with female communication styles. Women in positions in power (either intentionally or not) found that they had to adapt their communication styles to be respected as an authority figure.
Yes. Plus, I naturally communicated like a man in my work emails and people would say I was harsh and cold! If a man said the same thing, nothing bad was said about him. Just infuriating. 😡
@@blueshoes915 So infuriating.
@@michellesc0711 That sounds like a good episode.
@@blueshoes915 I am genuinely curious to your thoughts on this, I think it's partially that men are expected to be aggressive and display leadership due to gender roles and if they don't they are seen as un-masculine. Men are basically 'allowed' to express anger and often feel that is their only option.
I do understand the concern that because women are expected to be submissive and men dominant, men get more upward mobility in the workplace and women get less so they don't earn as much, given fewer promotions, not respected as a SME, etc the situation is a net negative for women. I think it stems from ingrained misogny that women's communication styles are seen as lesser.
This is why we can’t praise companies for doing the bare minimum and presenting themselves as progressive when they’re not. It sucks but as consumers it’s on us to choose who we support carefully whenever possible.
Reminds me of Nike suddenly bringing out a breastfeeding clothing line when they just fired a bunch of pregnant athletes and pressured them to stop breastfeeding.
I never had a BOSS mentality when I supervised. When I got feedback from my teams who would compare me to other supervisors at our workplace they usually said that they liked that I was fair and compassionate. My teams were usually the most productive
Good on ya ❤️
Lesson I learned in retail. The leader that is compassionate and gives, will get in their time of need. I remember staying in the store till 2 pm one night to help in setting it up for a vp visit at 20. And I had school the next day. I did that because the boss was great and we all presented that store picture perfect (Christmas too so it’s starting point was terrible).
I had a similar experience! And my feedback was the same from my team & they were very productive
I also feel like the push to get women into more positions of corporate and political power comes from an essentialist - and quite sexist - idea that women leaders will naturally change the culture of their work environment because "all" women are naturally nurturing and caring. Honestly, I can barely nurture my pothos plant.
I had to feed my roommate's fish for a week (2 tabs a day, she assured me that missing up to 3 days wouldn't kill them).
I still had massive anxiety about it. I don't even have houseplants. My cactus is still at my mum's!
Not necessarily. It comes from the fact that we have a larger population in comparison to men; yet women are often passed on opportunities on growth because we nurture. Men have passed us for decades with the thought that we would marry and then eventually quit and have children, or that we’d always leave work and take care of the family. The nurture part is a so they think. They could care less about our ambitions
I always found the term ‘girlboss’ to be awful. It’s infantilising and cringeworthy, the exact opposite of how I want to be thought of in the workplace.
Yep and it also just extends the toxic, narcissistic, patriarchal culture onto women pretending that women not being allowed to assimilate into the existing power structures is the problem, and not the way those power structures themselves are built. Representation for representation's sake while upholding oppressive systems won't ever solve anything.
Wish we tried doing "get creeps out of stem" versus "get more girls into stem" because as long as there are sexist creeps, no matter how many people you get in, they're still gonna get driven out
TRUE
I'm studying to enter STEM at the moment and I have never seen people being creepy. That being said, I usually don't realise when people are being creepy or trying to hit on me. They give up pretty quickly as a result.
The perks of being autistic, I suppose.
@@sharniek002 it is endemic to stem fields whether or not u experience(d) it personally. There are horror stories of women in different industries being harassed online and irl for being women in STEM
@@inaleighjohnson2813 Every field has it's horror stories and not just with women as the victims.
Also, what you're doing is dangerously close to gaslighting.
Professor in engineering, first day of classes, friend of mine, super happy and the guy "how many good man could be here if not by you girls who think Stem it's a shopping trip". Her class was about 50% 50% m/f. He was disgusting and never give internship and research opportunities for women's. Creeps are everywhere, I give up engineering because of bigotry.
I roll my eyes whenever a "girl boss momma" claims they can balance career and family, and even get excited for having more than 1 kid, plus having a million dollar empire!!! Can they just say a thank you to their nannies or their childcare privilege????
In Europe you can. Their society is built differently. In the US, you must sacrifice something. Second plenty of the men and women that ascend to those levels are not self made. This country used to be that well…. 50%/50%. However a large percentage of the c-suites come from Harvard alumnis etc. this means their parents are not regular old smuck
How about we stop snubbing each other of how we live owr lives. If someone wants to balance career and motherhood - let her, don't judge her. If someone only wants career - let her. Live your life without judgmement of others.
@@ireneswackyjournals8810 I live in Europe and I can tell you that you are very wrong.
Fun fact - computer programming was originally thought of as a "woman's job" because it was thought to be clerical and not requiring much skill. Then the work started to gain more respect and the salaries improved a lot, making it a more appealing career for young male professionals. Companies with programming roles then started to add aptitude tests to the hiring process which were designed to favour male attributes, side-lining women from the computer programming industry. The programming industry started to become more male dominated and that was when the culture of the "nerdy male gamer programmer" started to become the norm in computer science, and women were further excluded. What used to be a female dominated industry now sees undergraduate courses in computer science having graduates that are only about 18% female.
Had no idea but that makes sense
Omg....dint know this....can you point any source
@@priyapandey8486 look up worlds first programmers and you’ll find an article
@@PhDandProductivity okkk ✌✌
I had no idea. Thanks.
Hi, I rarely comment on videos, but this one made me cry tears of joy with all the uncomfortable truth bombs. Yes, women in power can be just as toxic as men. Yes, it is largely because the masculine framework is still considered the effective one at work. Chelsea, you are a role model for me in how you navigate the world and process ideas. Kudos.
Working for and with men is much more positive and professional.
My men boss where always more understanding than my women boss. Especially when it concerns family. I quit my last job due to my male boss being replace by a woman and she was horrible.
@@cabayern9416 Thats just statistically untrue. For one thing, maIe bosses and coworkers are significantly more likely to commit sxuaI violence and harassment in the workplace, and this has been studied throughout multiple male dominated fields. For example, virtually all femaIe construction workers face harassment as a resuIt of being in a very maIe dominated space. Plus, there was a study that came out a year or two ago that showed that wmen in fields like heaIthcare yield significantly better results because they show more empathy to their coworkers and patients
She literally puts ideas into words that I've had since I was very young.
This shallow, corporate “girl boss” feminism is an issue in politics. Representation of wealthy women (usually white, but not always) who do the same corrupt acts as their male counterparts is more important than any real substantive change
ugh don't get me started on Chrissy Teigen who's 'confidence' was lauded for 'daring to act like men' when its just plain bullying, regardless of being male or female
I unsubscribed from Girlboss and Sophia Amorosa a couple years ago after listening to a podcast where one of her guests bragged about firing an employee who worked hard but was not a "culture fit." And how great it is to fire people in order to grow your company. It's a bunch of finesse to get women to sign up for mentoring, coaching, MLM, financial advice, and other scams and not really about uplifting women and solving issues that affect everyday women.
Goodness! That's horrid!
Yes! Feminism framed as women being able to take on toxic masculinity has been an issue for a while (intersectional and womanist scholars have long said this) and "girlboss" feminism is a perfect example of that. Glad society is becoming more hip to the game being pulled on us.
Yes, look into "post feminism" and individualized feminism
No matter what new trick men try to pull, women always figure it out. They need to give up.
My whole thing is we go on about "women becoming CEOs, women climbing the top of the ladder" but like what then? What matters more to me is what she does and if she is a decent person when she gets that decision, cause if she's just gonna be this brutal "tough, manly boss" then I dont see her any differently than a male who acts like that.
*Job, I mean
womanism is feminism
Chealsea's artfully executed burns are, hands down, the most articulate on the internet. Where else can you get gold like, " Cadaverous senators " and "Girl bossification" saturated into quality content?!
I agree ☝️ articulate and intelligent.
Honest answer: Check out Cruel World Happy Mind who made a video on the exact same topic four months ago. She gives Chelsea a run for her money.
The sad thing is that if she was a man saying the exact same things, she'd have double the subscribers
@@heathercameron1485 they can both exist without comparison
"sharing thier deepest trauma for $40" 😂 I could listen to this and Dr. Grande's shade all day
As a male, doing what is considered “feminine” has allowed me to have better relationships in the work place and with personal relationships
The secret sauce.
@@ireneswackyjournals8810 uh no its called losing your gonads and ACQUIESCING to a demographic that are natural c0wards🙄.
@@thebtchthathikes1008 oh no. We aren’t cowards lol. Only a red piller or a incel loves to state that opinion.
My bf has started doing this and it’s been amazing for him too
@@alexe7012 yeah cause you get to 'reward ' him like it is a dog🙄. Once it realizes you only give out "treats' when it does what YOU want & not what HIS masculine frame tells him is when you are upset. That is why I read COUNTLESS guys who are boinkimg the chix with soy boy waiting at home like DUTIFUL pet 🤮.
Excellent video! For a long time now, I have struggled with the "feminist" attitude that "women can do no wrong." The truth is, everyone is capable of cruelty and deceit, regardless of gender. At the same time, everyone is capable of compassion and cooperation, regardless of gender. The sooner we figure this out, the better for everyone.
Well said!,
Beautiful comment.
Real talk. I found this out at 19 while working at a private law firm. I kept in my mental file cabinet.
The theory of feminism is that women are equal to (and outside of a few relatively minor areas, not that distinguishable from) men, not that women are better than men.
"Women can do no wrong" is not a feminist idea, it's just female chauvinism, and no serious feminist analyst would ever endorse it.
@@modusvivendi2 I came here to say exactly the same thing. Feminism isn't about hierarchy but equality, something everyone would profit from in the end. The "girl boss" trope doesn't have anything to do with a feminist agenda, as the video pointed out as well.
Good points. In the on-the-ground 'business coaching' environment, one of my biggest 'grrrrrrs' has been the rare women who 'make it' at whatever they are doing while being supported by a wealth-generating partner and domestic help, and then. . .turning around and trying to teach other women how to be a 'girl boss' (in their multi-thousand dollar online course) without ever acknowledging the level of financial and other support required to get there. And then creating the narrative of feminine power.
^^^@PJ Alexander THIS!!!!
Yes totally. I've felt disheartened by how many women I admired in the sector I'm trying to break into, are very well supported financially, emotionally and practically by incredible husbands. I mean it's great for them but as a single woman who only seems to meet either married men or men who don't want to have a committed relationship, I'm trying to do this mostly alone and it's really not easy ie. not having someone else's salary to fall back on when starting up my business. I'm going to try it and I'm determined to succeed but it's not the same as starting a business when you have a wealthy partner.
Having it all:
Parental leave for both parents
Union rights
Work life balance
Vacations
Job and financial security
Affordable child care
Accessible health care and access to sick leave
All achieved collectively (and actually do benefit not only women).
"Affordable childcare and accessible healthcare"
You have that now. Hows it working out for you?
This is why neo liberalism is a failure. If you dont support socialism, you hate women and brown people. Sorry
@@Louie_The_Dago me not neo liberal sorry 🙃
@@martah5369 You are if you think healthcare and childcare should be for-profit private enterprises.
@@Louie_The_Dago did I say I was? I think you misread me
@@martah5369 You dont have to say anything except "affordable."
Okay "pinkwashed capitalism" might be my new favorite term
Mine too
15:18 to 15:57 was a Mike drop for me. Let's leverage what is seen as weak to really empower those around us - that's a sign of a good boss IMO.
Agreed. I couldn’t clearly out my finger on it before but I always felt uncomfortable about the hard push for women to ‘never say sorry’… it felt like turning into a robot rather than using my empathy in a strong purposeful way.
yeah, we need to push men to be more like women, not demonize women and tell them to be more like men
100% ... The worst boss I've ever had was a woman who was extremely rude. She once told other managers that she liked to "push peoples' buttons" to get to know them and see how they react. When I was under a tremendous amount of stress bc of her behaviour and was venting to a friend, my friend asked: "would you say the same thing if this were a man?" Abso-fucking-lutely, I would. This behaviour should be unacceptable from anyone.
On the whole stop apologizing thing - It depends on where the apology stems from, and how it's handled. I tend to say it out of habit or because of low self-esteem. It took my boss, who happens to be an older white male, talking to me about this habit, telling me he used to do the same until was pointed out to him, to really think about it. Now if I say I'm sorry, he almost always responds "Don't apologize, you didn't do anything wrong". It's actually helped me cut back on saying it out of habit, but it hasn't stopped me from saying it out of empathy (those are usually the ones he doesn't comment on).
Right women should apologise less and men should apologise more. But both sexes should only do so if they have done something wrong not just to make someone more comfortable
@@MM-nl8ci not the same thing. Unless women start using the term Mens which sounds stupid right?
@@MM-nl8ci maybe look at how you framed that question. I was providing context, and there was no offense implied. Your statement of "you females" comes across as rude. Also, the fact you want to quibble about this term makes it seem like you missed the point.
I agree - only apologizing when you have something to apologize for is such a big deal (and such a hard habit to break)
“Charmin has to talk about wiping your ass like a She-EO.” Iconic
she essential oil ?! lol
@@ah5721 nah as in CEO, but then the feminist twist to make it SheEO. You may have just been joking but just in case you weren't sure then that is it lol
I don’t know how Chelsea manages to keep the discourse so fair and eloquent day in day out. Thank you
She is brilliant
"To avoid getting once again suckered in to the easy, cheap and ultimately meaningless politics of representation at the tippy top"
RESPECT!
I have said it before and I'll say it again, I get concerned watching financial videos on CZcams that it's all just bootstrap ideology, idolising the rich and willful ignorance of the damage investing itself can do in some situations. You're a much needed breath of fresh air.
At my old job, I had a female boss and I remember when she told me she will make sure not to recommend me if I need a reference so I won’t find another job all because I defended myself against one of my coworkers and said I will no longer overwork myself for something that’s out of my job description. My boss found out about it because my coworkers came crying to her and acted like I was being a bully when she was the one who wanted me to do something for her that wasn’t in my job description. I reported my old boss and I did find another job. I also started my own business as well because one day I don’t want to report to anyone anymore.
Been a follower of tfd for years. This is my favorite video. Love how you pointed out that a better measure of the progress we've made towards tearing down gender inequality is not to count how many white, upper middle class women have become "girl bosses, " but to examine how much the lives of those women in the margins of society have improved.
Don't worry Chelsea, MLMs will keep Girlbosses grinding all day for below minimum wage for a long time. They won't let anything die.
😂
Yeppers
Girl boss has just been replaced with, “That Girl.”
So true!
Can you explain? I don't get it.
@@anushashearin4901 On Tik Tok and other social media what’s trending now is being “that girl” or having your “main character moment” which I believe is not too far from being a girl boss
Always in awe at to how eloquent and powerful these videos are
Loved this. But I have to disagree with what you said about Angela Merkel. Her rise to the top is more related to her upbringing in the GDR than her being upper middle class or having money. In the GDR women were way more empowered and considered more equal to men than in Western Germany. That's something we like to forget when ranting about communism. I'm not saying she wasn't privileged. But money is not as necessary for a politician to get into a powerful position in Germany as it is in the US. Plus she became chancellor in 2005 which is way before the girl boss period.
Agree with this. Also she grew up on a house of faith when it was taboo elsewhere. She was raised knowing her belief may not be the norm but it is meaningful and not conforming. She gained the trust of Germany in ousting her mentor in a public news article for unethical practices that came to light and her moral compass has led to 16 years as Chancellor, and a popular one at that. Male or female, her leadership was exemplary for Germany and Europe.
@@BeautyOnFilm I agree. I'm from middle Europe and Angela Merkel has actually been a real source of inspiration for me. Seeing her being this absolute rock in national and international politics was genuinely meaningful female representation to me personally.
No, representation is not everything. But it is *something*.
I must agree. Got to remember we Americans tend to view things form our perspective. European countries in general even west Germany is more female friendly than the Us. England had Margaret thatcher, I hate her but they did. They also had several queens before. Same with Spain. There is a difference between societies that have seen women leading even if only as figureheads to one that has reluctantly opened up to women. The US.
This shallow, corporate “girl boss” feminism is an issue in politics. Representation of wealthy women (usually white, but not always) who do the same corrupt acts as their male counterparts is more important than any real substantive change.
I've worked in women-dominated workplaces for my entire career. Women aren't always fantastic bosses, I've had some send me home in tears. I would still choose one almost every single time given the choice.
Not me. My worst bosses were women.... Spiteful, jealous, narcissistic. My best were males... No drama, to the point, confident.
Why?
@@lauralaforge558 Less creepiness and borderline harassment. More understanding of the need for work/life balance. More open an honest about emotional needs and caring for mental health on the job. Now that I'm an employer, mental health is important for all of us. If someone is having a bad mental or physical health day, I want them to be honest about it so we can accommodate their needs. When people are distressed and in pain, they will not show up well for their job. I've found women to be generally more understanding of this fact. Also the completely personal bias... I'm a lot less likely to power struggle with a woman.
HOWEVER, I also think this can vary greatly based on the industry and the workplace culture in a particular company.
I hear "girl boss" and I immediately think of MLM's. LOL And we're STILL lagging behind in STEM fields or in leadership roles in STEM-led industries (looking at you Big Tech)... maybe not "as badly" but the numbers aren't great either.
The thing with this issue is that it begins in Education. There a fewer women than men in many Engineering, Physics and Mathematics programs, though there are exceptions. I think it'd be interesting to see whether or not this phenomenon begins even since high school or middle school.
It's a really complex issue that needs to be addressed taking into account many things.
@@paolahf I absolutely agree that it's definitely an issue stemming (pun intended) from generational bias against girls in stem education in middle school/high school etc. I remember being told repeatedly that "girls just weren't as good at math as boys" and I really internalized that for years until I went back to college and PROVED to myself that I couldn't not only pass College Algebra but also attain a CS degree which is heavy in mathematics.
Me too
What if women simply find these industries less attractive? I assist in court and when it comes to family cases the majority of the legal team consists of women. Women are simply more interested in family cases. I think it's time to adjust that narrative of women being left behind.
Even now my son's high school is still very strongly promoting that females get into long term care or nursing while males get into the trades, tech, law and creative fields.
"Girlboss" also immediately reminds me of the MLM scams. At least half of my friends have gotten into one or two while changing careers after leaving the health care career they were nudged into at 17/18 years old.
Yes! I hate all the advice that basically says, "Stop acting like a woman!" Because acting like a woman in any way is considered bad. Thank you for pointing that out. We can criticize men for not apologizing enough, not criticize women for apologizing too much.
Great point. Why are we glorifying being less kind and civil?
This video is a breath of fresh air! I wasn't a fan of the "girl-boss" movement but couldn't exactly pin down why (other than it just seemed trite). I never had it framed so well for me - especially as it concerns racial and socioeconomic inequality. Thank you for opening my eyes!
The term "girl boss" it self is a joke and plays into the ancient view on women as eternal children. Not exactly a powerfull claim. As usual, great video!
Yes exactly! Girlboss! Sounds like an upper class woman. In ancient Athens the privileged women had the privilege of not having to endanger themselves. They would live in a closed off world, were uneducated and were not allowed out of the house. They did, however have a lot of servants to boss around. But these types of women were taught it was 'classy' to be childlike and ignorant.
The middle class women and prostitutes were ironically more educated than their rich counterparts. They had more freedom because their families weren't vested in them for financial reasons.
But being free and educated was considered not classy because it was considered a sign of hardship and a difficult life.
This! I never understood why American women liked to be labeled a girl. Do you ever hear the term boy boss? It would be seen as a critique of men, claiming them to be immature. Yet we actually liked being called girl boss? How? I think it partially comes with our obsession toward youth in the US. As seen with all of our films, shows, magazines and CZcams influencers now. I am 34, and at this age I refuse to be called a girl.
Yes I never liked the term purely because of the use of the word girl. They at least should have called it woman boss but even that is cringe and unnecessary.
“JK Rowling was still beloved”💀💀💀
I read the #girlboss book a couple years back by that NastyGal lady and it was just so like... good for you being born at the precise moment in history that an eBay shop has the potential to TAKE OFF and also being abled enough to work hard enough to seize that opportunity. I'm glad when people get to be successful, but the "how-to guide" thing the book had going on just fell absolutely flat for me. Thanks for the video, TFD!
"I'm sorry to bother you.." "I'm sorry but I disagree with you.." I'm sorry for taking so long.." I'm sorry I am sick/tired.". etc.. We woman are made to feel that we don't deserve to take up space and we are sorry that we do.. .We say I'm sorry for things that men just do or say without even batting an eye or taking into consideration how their actions and words affect others. Saying. "I'm sorry".. is ingrained in us from our toddler years and continues throughout our lives. We are taught to feel guilty about our thoughts and actions and we must stop saying I'm sorry or feeling guilty and own up to the fact that we don't have to feel guilty or say I'm sorry for everything we do or say. It is time to own our power without feeling guilty about it.
I agree.
Ugh, you sound exactly like the toxic girl bosses being examined in the video
As a nurse I learned quickly enough that good leadership had zero to do with gonads and everything to do with listening, empowering and challenging. Knowing that my charge or manager had my back even if I was being pushed out of my comfort zone meant I could grow. OTOH dealing with people who were insecure in their roles usually meant I would get the poopy end of any stick.
Amen 🙏!! This is why I LOVE 💕 THIS CHANNEL! Thank you for clearly stating the obvious… but not so obvious… I wish I could speak as eloquently as you, but until I can, I’ll share your video when I need to fight back 😊
Question: When these studies say that women control spending, are they counting purchases that benefit the entire household as "women's spending?" Women do most of the housework, including shopping for groceries, cleaning supplies, etc. I wouldn't call buying necessities "control" or say that it's women using the money for their own desires. Not criticizing Chelsea's reporting; this is just something I'd generally like to see dissected more often.
It is not "women's spending" it is "women's choice." There is no point in a company spending money targeting ads to men if research shows that most of the time a woman is deciding on the brand the family uses for that product. It is from the advertiser's POV, not the consumers.
@@bibliophilelady6106 That makes sense; thank you for clarifying. I was afraid they were falling into the trope of "men make all the money and women spend it all on frivolous things."
You cannot fight patriarchy with capitalism.
What would you suggest as an alternative?
@@NoticeMeSenpaiii
compassion and a strive for equality. Capitalism inherently needs inequality to function, and since patriarchy exists the people at the bottom will almost ALWAYS be wmn. Capitalism treats us as disposable objects, it just puts a few wmen at the top to distract us from the fact that its leaving most of us in the dirt
@@botanicalitus4194 I agree that compassion and equality are super important, but I meant what sort of economic system could we put in place that would be better? I don't think there's any alternative with true (or even better) equality. Even communism in practice always has a ruling class/upper class, usually dominated by men. I think capitalism gives up the best shot at climbing the ranks and provides us the most economic freedom, but I'm open to the idea of alternatives.
Also, there's no aggression in my comment, just genuine curiosity. Sorry if it comes across aggressive or condescending 😬
@@NoticeMeSenpaiii dont worry, i didnt think you were aggressive and i wasnt trying to be aggressive either. sorry if it came off that way. Communism and socialism can be authoritarian, libertarian, or anything in between. A lot of modern communists are anarcho communists that believe in a stateless, classless society that is community oriented. Sure it might be idealistic for the time being but maybe in the future it would be possible. For now I think libertarian socialism makes sense, where private companies are owned by worker co ops so no one that works in a company will be completely powerless. It would dramatically shift how we understand work, but in a good way. It would reduce people's ability to screw over people beneath them in the hierarchy, bc there would be no hierarchy
@Notice Me Senpai I appreciate your question: I was thinking, what about Scandinavian style social democracy, with higher taxes that fund social goods? There’s a lot between capitalism and communism.
Finally, a cutdown on the toxic girlboss rhetoric. Thank you for the analyses and breakdown. It’s so important for women of all socio-economic backgrounds to see the propaganda that harms them.
Sophia Amoruso or the people who handle her IG, blocked me from the account after I suggested a debate between her and Chelsea. No bad intention or tone at all on my end …… I was just really excited about the possibility of watching a debate like that 🤷🏻♀️
Preach! What a great video! You nailed it with your final comments on measuring success via women at the margins rather than concentration of power at the tip-top. I have witnessed this within the ski industry in the US. I love your perspective on this. Thanks for posting! :)
Mark Fisher and others already pointed out the system's skill in taking in and coopting its criticisms into another commodity they sell you later, as counter-culture. There's no escape.
"But that depends on what you classify as an achievement." -- an excellent thesis statement to this whole concept and video
The most empowering thing I ever did was decide to be a stay at home mother and wife. I tried climbing the ladder. I was earning 6 figures when my mental health started to fail. I just couldn’t keep up with the corporate life as well as managing at home. Honestly, whilst we’re not financially better off- we are happier and healthier- isn’t that what should be what’s most important?
I love being a sahm- for me, it's more liberating.
Amen girl!! 💕
This was healing to watch. I was so frustrated by the girlbossification of the political discourse in 2015 and 2016 and felt very alone in that feeling. The class and power dynamics of the girl boss movement is such an important point and I thank you for talking about it.
Love everything about this! And I love that you are leaning into your politics and pushing the discourse around diversity to class.
The “Girl Boss” hasn’t gone anywhere, its just been rebranded for Gen-Z as being “That girl” or “Being the main character”. Yes Gen-Z take the mick out of the term “Girl Boss” but it’s still incredibly ripe and affecting girls at a MUCH younger age now as they grew up with the unnecessary pressure of trying to “Girl Boss way to close to the sun”.
It’s still very white, it’s still very rich and it’s still very shallow. The only upgrade is that different ethnicities and culture are developing their own version of a girlboss rather than leaning into the way white girls do it.
As a gen z tbh This comment is gold and needs to be pinned or something
THIS IS GOLD
Superb! I absolutely hate this ‘representation solves everything’ mindset. Representation is just a START. If we don’t genuinely progress from there, there’s no point celebrating it! That, and so many other things.
Also loved your point about stamping out ‘feminine traits’. Those aren’t bad qualities at all once you understand how not to let others use it against you.
Love this so much and looking forward to more content discussing intersectionality and finances.
I know this wasn’t your intention, but I’m seeing a lot of comments about how terrible people’s female bosses have been.
So....
In terms of women CEOs not changing their company cultures enough, we need to look not just at the CEO, but at the board who the CEO works for. A CEO can be a figure head at times, and the board may be making the big calls for how the company functions. Is there diversity at those tables?
I'm really appreciating your meta analyses. It's bringing me back to the channel I still use for budgeting. I'd love to see your recommendations on how to include women more on the household and their impacts on their partners. My life has improved so much by helping my partner, and I'd love to see more content on how young girls are leading the way towards better lives for us all.
Absolutely smashing thesis!! Thank you for this video!!
This video is especially excellent hon, I thought I would never see the day when class analysis and financials were talked about.
“You go girl” 🤣🤣🤣 LOVE THE SASS !!!
But seriously it’s so true women need to step forward together not step on each other to get ahead.
In México there's still people using girlboss as a good thing, many influencers describes themselves as "girlbosses"
It probably also depends on where you're country stands socially. We (where I live) only got universal suffrage in the 70s. And the older female bosses I had were all tough as nails but incredibly supportive of younger women.
Chelsea, your commentaries are always relevant but this one stands and was much-needed!
Thank you for bringing in such informative and interesting content. When i'm getting ready for work this is my sipping coffee and learning go-to channel :D keep rocking on love you are an inspiration
This was very entertaining yet informative to watch. "You go girl" 😂
Amazing Chelsea, thank you for framing this the way you did. I love being a woman and everything that that implies but have long felt that society just wants women to act like men to succed. This video is great food for thought, thank you once again.
I've been saying this for YEARS and this is the first time I've heard someone else with the same sentiment. THANK YOU! The one thing I won't apologize for is apologizing and being thoughtful of others in how I communicate! Why is that so bad? And I'm also tired of feeling like confidence is the only way to be seen as competent, what a bunch of BS, I trust people way less if they constantly act like they know everything all the time!
HELL YES!!!! I loved this. Excellent points about how this is just another expression of masculine framework, not actual mind set shift. This is so important. Thank you for talking about this!
Glad you're covering this.
I love this channel. Something that y'all have mentioned before that is relevant to this video would be the double standard of men also creating toxic work environments. Happy Tuesday!
Awesome talk! One of the things you did not mention, but I think has strong repercussions is “The Beauty Myth” of which the more successful you become as a woman, the more you must look amazing. While if you are successful, it’s doubtful one has TIME to look amazing. Therefore, every last minute must be an opportunity to “better” yourself by improving your looks rather than doing the hard thinking and working required to get a job done. All in all, we have to spend so much of our time and attention on beauty so that we do NOT have time and attention to actually become successful.
Loved this video essay. Awesome points and perspective.
*Most of the cast of bridesmaids. Maya Rudolph isn’t white
I was thinking the same thing lol
She probably didn't know or forgot. It's hard to tell for some people that Maya Rudolph is mixed 😅
*she’s half white 🤷🏾♀️
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Why are we going after Bridesmaids anyways?
Glad someone said it cause I was going to
My aunt bought me those two Rachel Hollis books and I started reading and they’re terrible. They are now sitting on my bookshelf collecting dust
this channel is deeply appreciated❤️ just wanted you to know
That was awesome. Just subscribed.
loving this canadian coverage! kathleen wynne, julie peyette, so relevent to me as a torontonian lol :)
“Pinkwashed capatilism” the term is so on point lol
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Love the fact that these videos are supported by statistics and not just opinons. Thank you :)
Thank you for saying what I've been thinking for years.
Brilliant video, per usual! However, one editorial correction “…the entire cast of BRIDESMAIDS…all white women.” Maya Rudolph is not white. She’s the daughter of the incomparable Minnie Ripperton. Nonetheless, your larger point still stands.
Came here looking for this comment. Thank you.
Kudos to you being able to explain all that in less than 20 minutes. I find it hard to explain to men toxic girlboss doesn't represent all women.
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This is fantastic stuff and eye opening - Chelsea your social critique is excellent !
Omg I’m loving your videos, thank you for being a voice of reason!
The word "girlboss" itself is so demeaning, degrading and sexist on multiple levels I'm still upset that so many women not only accepted its mainstream use but saw it as empowering or aspirational.
Whoa! I’m early this video!!! The title definitely caught my attention!
Fantastic analysis. Thank you for your deep thoughts and research.
Great video! Was honestly surprised at such a comprehensive and critical analysis of this rhetoric.
What an amazing video. Another striking example of girlboss toxicity recently is Ellen DeGeneres -- I thought of that when Julie Payette was mentionned (nice to see Canada being mentioned :D
I literally used to think being a "Girl Boss" was being a leader without mimicking white male managers (for example, 1980s women's workwear).
this is super well done! thank you!
Excellent commentary. I LOVE this channel!
I swear the add at the beginning was for selling candles and making 6 figures.
Subscribed!! Excellent video, thank you!!
Another fantastic video! Thanks Chelsea and Team TFD!
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I immediately thought of Ellen DeGeneres
Me too !
May be left field but also we suffer from pay gap and lack of women in leadership positions much more in STEM. As the west is known to have fewer women study STEM. Which is really the future in a technology driven society. While countries in the east like India have. 50 percent of engineering students being female. More equality doesnt lead to more women leaders in fields that matters .
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us! P.S. I would really love one of your mugs!!!😀
Wow. This was mind blowing. Thanks for this discussion. It was truly thought provoking!
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