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so the idea of Illumi Zoldyck being paid to kill Hisuka part of the real Hisoka plan to kill crawler?
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@@ethanlong4888 trueeee plus it supports Israel
Not everything is 🔲@@lixydead3665
My favorite part of this video was you calling Raid a stupid game
i rewatched that moment a few times for a good laugh)
@@Ei_bon I definetly laughed don't hate the game just like that he is poking fun at his sponsor
Bro went hard spitting facts😂
And they fuckin payed him for it lmao
There was no "It's back to you... me?"
I am inconsolable and my day is ruined.
Gotta love the hiatus brain rot going from everyone thinking Illumi was actually Hisoka in disguise to now Hisoka actually being Chrollo
Scary
At least it looks like the hiatus might be over soon 🙏🙏
I’m still not convinced illumi is not Hisoka due to his comment regarding showering.
True but if it is the case it's going to set up an insane confrontation with Kurapika.
Ngl the Illumi is Hisoka got some evidence 😭
Hard not to believe but idk about this one
People have discussed the possibility that Hisoka was never on the boat to begin with. At first I thought “Then why the big speech about claiming his head with the other troupe members?”, but then I’m reminded of Chrollo’s tactics in Yorknew city. ‘To fool your enemies, fool your allies first’
That wasn't Chrollo? That was Phinks
@@high_defineit was Chrollo. Phinks only relayed why they were there even though Chrollo planned for them to be somewhere else.
Story would be more interesting if hisoka is on the black whale...he most definitely is on the boat
@@bluesyrupgc4224 ah
@@SatishKumar-fj7ucyeah and considering hisokas goal is to kill ALL of the spiders, I don’t think he would not be on the boat. It isn’t like him to try and avoid strong enemies, and when his bloodlust leads him to want to kill, I don’t think there’s anything that could stop him.
this man is about to get 10 year plus content with the release of a new chapter
This kinda makes sense actually. Even the way he punched Lynch reminds us of the way Chrollo knocked Neon unconscious; so quick we could hardly see his hand moving.
That is true, good observation. And this strategy is certainly 100% what Chrollo is capable of doing.
Agree
I mean I’d assume any high tier Nen user would just be able to do that. Netero literally does it in the Chimera Arc
@@sc00bii75exactly
So hisoka is chrollo and illumi is hisoka 😂😂 Togashi definitely cooking
Lets not forget that also Pariston is Sheila!
WOW! I was already 100% convinced on on chrollo disguising himself as hisoka (the question he asked, the swift strike, hands in pocket, etc.) but I didnt even think about the fact that Hisoka could be using texture surprise to disguise himself as illumi to be close to the troupe, especially since we havent seen illumi since the cafeteria
lets go full circle: chrollo is illumi
@@rwex1 best part is that pariston is mother of Gon, which means Pariston used his nen to have a womb and then took backshots from Ging, truly a Kenjaku moment - everything to make the perfect hunter, Ging suck at something which is being a father. And that's how Pariston won one over him
@@PinoyHeroclixMix Hisoka is disguising himself as illumi who is actually disguising himself as Chrollo who is actually disguising himself as Hisoka. So essentially Hisoka is Hisoka! Hisoka is using reverse reverse reverse psychology. Truely a togashi moment. Chrollo isnt even on the boat, hes still looking for a way to remove Kurapika's nen. Its all a set up
2023: Hisoka is Illumi
2024: Chrollo is Hisoka
2025: Illumi is Chrollo??
So in the end hisoka is hisoka
@@voidanims The true HxH.
I love that even the subtle ways of drawing characters facial features and background art provides evidence for these theories! This is why HxH is top tier!
Your comment should be pinned. C'mon Liam! 📍
(also, how many comments _can_ be pinned by the youtuber? So many great comments about hxh in here just like yours! And I enjoy every bit of love from fellow *#HunterXHunter* fans!)
This channel outputs more hxh videos in a year than hxh chapters.
This channel pops out more HxH videos in a season than HxH chapters in a year
@@aaron101889we haven’t had a chapter for over a year. Soo. It was like Christmas of two years ago I think not sure but it’s pain
Not a big achievement.
Naturally that makes sense
1:11 this transition to the sponser killed me xD
...Is Nen-Teamwork broken? I was wondering this before, especialy when Nobunaga was taken out easssily by a Conjurer but to stay with Bonelenov as an example: WAIT, if i know this guy can turn into people, cant I make m Activation-Requirement to do all kinds of complex Rituals with someonelone looking like my Arch-Enemy, a Guy who would never ever do such Friendship-Rituals-and-Dances with me?? Specialists can, when strong Requirements are fullfilled, steal Abilities so why cant i cheat with that to no end?
@@slevinchannel7589Wat?
So based on fan theories, the Illumi on boat is Hisoka and the Hisoka on board is Chrollo.... got it 🫡
Well the first theory you mentioned makes no sense, it's just a silly theory that has no backup. Why did you put it in the same boat as this actually logical theory
@@wassimsisko3908 I wouldn't be so sure of that ngl
Plot twist Tserriednich is hisoka in texture surprise using his bungee gum to stretch through the fabric of time and space to see the future
Best theory
Lmfaoooo
Bungee gum? The ability with both the properties of rubber AND gum?
Plus they told us in a few episodes prior to this how skilled Chrollo is at acting, even since he was a little boy. And the fact that hisoka never wears his hair down, the only time he wore it like that was when he showered he probably uses his gum to put it up, which further confirms that this is not him. And you're right the whole time he never took his hands out of his pockets, which is NOT at hisoka thing at all this is definitely Chrollo he always ALWAYS has his hands in his pockets. And I don't think illumi is hisoka btw, that theory makes no sense. Now I can't wait to see Chrollo meeting the tattoo guy of the prince that killed his childhood friend...the same prince that has kurapuka's clan's eye and childhood friends head in a jar...the same prince that potentially ordered the actual massacre of the kurta clan (yes given how the backstory of the phantom always stops before we get into the kurta clan massacre, there's gonna be a big twist over what actually happened that day)
Just read your comment. I feel like I can talk to you about *#HXH* overnight, for hours on end!!! 🤯
I'm not so good at theorizing, especially that this is *#Togashi* we're talking about. He's probably always thinking about what the fans _"think might happen"_ and THEN he will subvert it.
He is the *#King_of_All_Subversions* after all.
So I didn't really get into that habit of "hunter theorizing" like many fans.
I figured if I just let the story unfold, then the LEVEL of excitement & surprise I would feel at the moment would be *_#PEAK_EPIC_**_!_*
You know, like holding out on your favorite food for so long and when you finally eat it, the satisfaction is just over the roof!
But that last part you said about a possible twist, I have thought of that as well, after reading that 'chapter about Sarasa's massacre'.
I didn't dwell on it so much for the same reasons I mentioned above. But an unholy alliance between *Kurapica & Kuroro* would absolutely be _beyond mind-blowing,_ especially at the masterful hands of Togashi! 💥😭💥
I'm just gushing at the thought of that chaotic tandem!
Like when Light & L became a duo (temporarily/superficially) but multiplied 86 times over!
(Since 2007, I've always thought of Light as *_#Evil_Kurapika_**_ and L as _**_#QuirkyUnkemptHero_Kuroro_* - also, I've always wondered if there's any interview of Deathnote's creator acknowledging *HXH* as a main inspiration for this other masterpiece of suspense. Please let there be.)
Anyways, I'm just rambling.
The four kakin prince the human meruem. I believe the four kakin prince killed Chrollo childhood friend. Someone else from CZcams section said the same thing I see why that person believe four kakin prince might be culprit. He is sadist and have some very sick way of cruelty to human life.
Yeah, his tattoo artist is one of the people that kidnapped the spiders childhood friend, and he works for that prince who most likely is the one that sent a mafia group to massacre the kurta. Given that Chrollo's childhood friend Sheila was living with them, the phantom troupe went to check it out to see if she was okay and later took credit for it to build that scary reputation around meteor city. Also the reason why Chrollo was the first one to know about the massacre of the kurta was because he built the dark Website (that the criminals use to post their crimes on to find who murdered their friend) the same one kurapuka and the mafia use, he hinted at that in the backstory chapter, that's how he got the info before anyone else! It makes total sense to me, I do not see pakunoda or sharnalk and even Uvo, phinks, Nobunaga or machi pulling eyes out of hurt kids and elderly people, that's more something the mafia would do @@laquanlucas6953
@@wassimsisko3908 No the phantom troupe are actually killers,torturers and thieves. They definitely would do it. Feitan actually likes torture. You just got your fan glasses on and forgot that they are in actuality terrible people regardless of being cool characters in a show. The troupe has become what they sought out to defeat when they were young. They really are all that. They are not nice people.
@@topijarvinen5374 Then why did they not kill gon and killua and were about to let them go freely if it weren't for nobunaga who wnated to hire them? why have we not seen the backstory of the kurta? we always stop right before it is shown and we never even get a glimpse of what happpened, and nobody has seen them do it, also you do realize why the phantom troupe was created, it was said in the backstory it was to protect meteor city, they steal from the outside world and give all that money to residents of meteor city that's why they need to steal such large quantities of money. Chrollo even said when Uvo suspected a traiter "why would anyone betray us, money? fame? you think any of us cares about these things?" so they obviously don't do it to get rich and the fact they don't care about individuals surviving it's the spider itself that must stay alive. Until i see them killing the kurta or we get actual proof of them doing it, i will not believe it. The only actual pure evil is that ped0 clown
I like the theory that Chrollo’s bookmark condition is not lying, it didn’t occur to me because it seemed like he wanted to explain his abilities during his fight with Hisoka anyways because he knows what sort of fighters they both are and wanted to play with his head. I thought the condition might be that the pages in Bandit’s Secret are now blank and he has to memorize
I always thought the book now needs him to prepare the abilities once per day or every 24 hours. Freely swap between all abilites but must have book open in hand. But with bookmark it becomes freely use both hands but can only use abilites prepared in the book up to a maximum(5). His combo ability i think is a side effect of satisfying both of these abilities. Its so annoying chollo didnt elaborate on why its annoying but gave us all that other info.
You know what? I want both this theory and the theory that “Illumi” is actually Hisoka in disguise to both be true for maximum chicanery and irony.
That would be hilarious. Hisoka does love shitting all over his opponents in humourous ways if possible. It would be even funnier if hisoka is already on the first floor and involved. Also, I think the third Mafia family has a teleporting room on the first floor.
I was thinking the same thing. Would give some good contrast between the two.
So there is 3 Hisoka running around
@@jollyd.joestar3937if Bonolenov is also Hisoka. I think it would be hilarious if there were 3 Hisoka, Chrollo, Illumi, and Bonolenov. But none of them were actually him because Hisoka is disguised as Illumi
You know I'm starting to think if Hisoka is actually on that ship at all😅 Just imagine everyone on the black whale going crazy looking for Hisoka while he's on a beach somewhere having no clue of any of this😂
Is Nen-Teamwork broken? I was wondering this before, especialy when Nobunaga was taken out easssily by a Conjurer but to stay with Bonelenov as an example: WAIT, if i know this guy can turn into people, cant I make m Activation-Requirement to do all kinds of complex Rituals with someonelone looking like my Arch-Enemy, a Guy who would never ever do such Friendship-Rituals-and-Dances with me?? Specialists can, when strong Requirements are fullfilled, steal Abilities so why cant i cheat with that to no end?
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He is just a pervert to me 🥹
This man. This man right here. HxH is in near vegetative state but he has been the one to keep administering CPR to keep it alive. Well done, sir! Thank you for your service!
John Carpenter’s The Thing mentioned 🙏. That’s probably my favorite movie, Togashi’s impeccable taste strikes again
Is Nen-Teamwork broken? I was wondering this before, especialy when Nobunaga was taken out easssily by a Conjurer but to stay with Bonelenov as an example: WAIT, if i know this guy can turn into people, cant I make m Activation-Requirement to do all kinds of complex Rituals with someonelone looking like my Arch-Enemy, a Guy who would never ever do such Friendship-Rituals-and-Dances with me?? Specialists can, when strong Requirements are fullfilled, steal Abilities so why cant i cheat with that to no end?
@@slevinchannel7589 I think you put this on the wrong comment lol I have no idea what this means
I feel like this is one of those theories that, when proven completely wrong, I'll tell myself that Togashi had this in mind but then forgot it due to the hiatus.
9:24 in yorkshin chrollo knocks out neon in the blink of an eye so in fact if the person we saw wasn't hisoka but chrollo that's probably what happened
That be a cool consistency thing to happen but damn
... hisoka could definitely also do this too easily
@@nothanksthoughtrue chrollo couldn't even attack hisoka directly because he overpowers him physically and he could've amped himself with shalnarks autopilot
@@joebilly7921 how is that relevant to the conv?
@@ashadowintime7305 cuz he said that hisoka could do the same knock out as chrollo
Seeing hisoka without makeup:
"oh no he's HOTTTTT"
And his hair down! Damn son calm down
Always has been
And him without his shirt🥵🥵🥵
@@Violette---omg ur so cute
marry me plz😭
There is third shapeshifter among the Spiders. Illumi Zoldyck!
He needs needles though, and it makes no difference. Chrollo can just copy his appearance if he turned to hisoka. It's the same end result, this is Chrollo
Another thing that comes to mind is the similarity of chrollo with Jesus Christ and Peter who denied him 3 times.
Greetings from Chile!
Or chrollo could have stolen bonolenov's ability and used metamorphosis.
And the final 2 pieces of evidence got me hooked to the theory. The eye contact bit and him asking about who would win
IIRC, if Bonolenov's metamorphosis ability requires Cantabile (he has to dance and get sound effects from the holes in his body), Chrollo may not be able to use it since he doesn't have those holes.
I don't think Chrollo would put any other Troupe members in a defenseless position again like with Kortopi and Shalnark
From what we've seen Bonolenov activates his abilities by playing music with the holes in his body. Even if Chrollo took the ability it's likely he couldn't activate it because of that.
@@OWHorus There's no sure way to tell if he would be defenseless. Battle Cantabile may be one ability, but it's likely several ones. Like Kurapika's chains, they have a common theme (chains) but they're actually different abilities, if you stole one, Kurapika could still use the other four. It's unlikely that Bonolenov's ability to disguise is the same as the one that summon Jupiter or the one that destroy your inner ear so he wouldn't be left defenceless, the only ability he'd lose is the one he admitted not to be smart enough to use properly anyway.
That being said, my favourite theory is that Hisoka is actually... Hisoka in disguise!
@@Arkayjiya Bono would never use Jupiter attack on the black whale probably cause the ship to sink. Bono did indeed tell Chrollo his ability will useless against someone like Hisoka. Hisoka is very crafty individual. But regarding the disguise about Hisoka I believe it him. He like pharphase and say thing in riddle to covey his messages
This has been a pretty popular theory lately, and it seems very likely. Thanks for breaking down all the evidence. Now I'm just thinking about what happens when the Troupe get access to Tier 1 and run into Kurapika.
lots of deaths probably
@@BahamutEx it still sad that the true villains that gotten chrollo best friend kill and got the troupe to slaughter the kurta clan. It is going to be blood bath.
@@laquanlucas6953 it's not clear if they got their revenge already or not
@@BahamutEx The unknown person that pin these two together to clash is still out there
@@laquanlucas6953 🤷
TY FOR NEW HXH CONTENT I WAS RUNNING OUT
hey lol
@@ME_K1LLU4 LMAO hey💀
@@st1cksx sup im beefin with a kid so i cant respond fast
@@ME_K1LLU4 is it that same kid from last time💀
@@st1cksx yeah the kid that keeps callin me the n word like i aint even black
Watch Togashi drop all of this whale boat and just go back to Gon leaving all of this to the fans
Absolutely not gonna happen lol
I'm waiting for Whale Island to turn into the Green Whale, which will be discovered to have been sailed back by Don Freecss along with Journey to the New World: East, and beat the Black Whale to the Dark Continent. Meanwhile, Gyro is progressing his second phase to conquer humanity after losing D^2 manufacturing in the NGL: publishing gacha games.
If he was Oda that would be plausible. He isn’t Oda. He doesn’t leave the current “action” to cut to stuff nobody cares about.
@@ritzkola2302 Oda not only do that sh1t but take like YEARS to close those things..
@@EvilPapagali666 yup. He just did it again in the latest chapter. It’s annoying.
I have read the SW arc 3x beforehand. All over the space of a few years. At different developmental points in life.
When it first came out I was a teenager. Leaving high school and deployed to Iraq. Isis. That stuff. It was very wordy. Hard to keep track. I plowed through it.
Years later, I was a bored combat veteran needing something to do from day to day. And decided to catch up because HxH was exiting hiatus. I didn’t pay attention to details. It was only catching up to remember the overall storyline.
Even more years after that it was a similar thing in 2022. That time I paid attention and thought I understood the story. But CZcamsrs who were older than me seemed to pull more out of it than I was able to at the time; watching reviews.
I’ve finished my fourth read this week. Yesterday. Wow. I really enjoyed it. It finally clicked. All the cylinders finally moved. I pulled out so many details and during the reading was coming up with theories, that were immediately acknowledged in the next page or two. Felt like Nostradamus. When I saw this video just now I paused it at 0:27 to write this. I wouldn’t have been able to take a guess like this years ago. But this is an idea that crossed my mind as well. I am what it looks like when the brain itself reaches different developmental stages in life.
Btw I’m gonna say it’s either Bonolenov or Chrollo. Although there are implications that Hisoka hunted down more than just Neon.
Edit: Ironically I understood the 4th Prince’s ability much better back then. Now I’m confused as hell by it. Clearly I’m overthinking.
See, the thing is, Hisoka is onto Chrollo and has been awaiting Chrollo, disguised as a guard of one of the princes, ready to spring his trap once Chrollo is about to complete his objective. After all, when hunting, you strike as your quarry is about to strike themselves.
And chrollo should be aware he is being hunted too.
@@yobro6053 Oh for sure, but Chrollo doesn't know the extent of the monster clowns post mortem nen abilities, the ones who got to experience it did not make it back to report, Machi just got restrained. Hisoka's strength lies in adaptability, Chrollo's lies in preperation. They are polar opposites, but one of them just got gifted an absurd amount of nen. Chrollo for sure has a plan for when Hisoka strikes, but this it not the same Hisoka.
@@ProcrastinaterI mean the ones who got to experience it didn't have their nen abilities at the time. I think Feitan could take him in a straight fight
@@DolphinSMG Oh dear. Feitan almost lost to a chimera ant captain, if you needed reminding.
@@Procrastinater Don't remember him almost losing
another thing I would like to point out is that this “Hisoka” was in a movie theater, when it was revealed in the Phantom Troop backstory that movies are important to them
Another piece of evidence to support this Hisoka actually being Chrollo is that Hisoka swiftly knocks out Lynch almost like he’s very proficient in doing so after presumably doing it many times, Chrollo had already done this before with Neon during the York New city arc. I’m not saying Hisoka wouldn’t be capable of preforming such a strike or any top tier nen user for that matter but Togashi has already laid out a lot for us that was this discussed in this video and this could further add to the theory
so Hisoka is Chrollo, Illumi is Hisoka and the king is working with Beyond Netaro to sacrifice the whole Black whale one as part of a giant nene condition for the sake of the kingdom and or himself, while working with beyond to take his elite team to the dark continent, mean while Ging is playing with Parasten, the phantom troop is plaining a secret heist of the royal family, and the succession war plays out hidden from everyone but the readers, guards and belatedly the royal family them selves.
then there is artist monster who's name i cant spell for the life of me growing ever more powerful learning nene from his body guard who is 1 lie away from having [something] happen to her,
oh and then there is the mafia family's and the princes with there own agendas, on top of the hunter association trying to figure out any of this mostly failing but trying there best, and this makes up maybe a little less then half the factions at play?
we have individual's in many of these groups with there own plans and information,
korapika, Leereo, cheatle, hisoka, no really what is hisoka doing is he even on the ship is he really Illumi?
then we have the monster artist's old friend's group, the missing member of the phantiom troupe who may be parasten, or maybe not, the Evil existence of Garo in meteor city!
and all of this is without considering the unlikely even of Gon or any other Zoldicks coming into the fry, or taking into account any plans by Parastin and beyonds party, those elite nene users we have yet to learn much about might have plans of there own effecting any number of things if they are even on the ship,
ohhhh and then there is that little tib bit about the small army of Chamara ants, nope cant forget about them. . .
. . . i am bigging to understand what is taking so long on these hiatus's, how do you even come back to writing this story after taking so much as a week off let alone drawing it and publishing it for hundreds of thousands or people to read, Togashi is a monster for even trying it, and with a bad back, and while he already has all the money he could ever need and no need to work another day in his life. . .
i think we may need a new multi hour long recap if the story returns. . . ok i just want more hunter X hunter content but can you blame me?! this channel is amazing and reshapes so much of the story for the better, i want more videos! this video was absolutely insane.
Massive text wall out!
This man cannot stop himself from convincing himself and the community that there's some glasses with a big nose and bushy mustache conspiracy going on between every chapter batch.
he does what he has to do to get us through the hiatus
Is Nen-Teamwork broken? I was wondering this before, especialy when Nobunaga was taken out easssily by a Conjurer but to stay with Bonelenov as an example: WAIT, if i know this guy can turn into people, cant I make m Activation-Requirement to do all kinds of complex Rituals with someonelone looking like my Arch-Enemy, a Guy who would never ever do such Friendship-Rituals-and-Dances with me?? Specialists can, when strong Requirements are fullfilled, steal Abilities so why cant i cheat with that to no end?
Would be funny if there were three Hisoka on board. Both theories being somewhat correct
This is a bit of a theory and I haven't really read up to date but maybe the reason why 'Hisoka' didn't respond to his name is because it is a Nen restriction something like he is unable to call himself the person they are disguised as or talk at all which allows the transformed person to perfectly copy someones shape, aura etc
If you think about it, "Hisoka's" quick, invisible knockout of Lynch also mirrored Chrollo's knockout of Neon in Yorknew.
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This theory makes sense and I even think it could be true at the same time as the theory you covered before that Illumi is also just Hisoka in disguise. Both are in disguise trying to find each other, and the movie being showed being the Thing is so perfect for this.
I feel like hisoka is actually chrollo just because of his outfit choice. Hisoka's style though ranging has never been any less than flamboyant and for him to suddenly develop a style for more simple outfits is simply odd.
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You robbed us the weekly intake of "Back to you--ME!"
Nen-Fun-Fact:
Most Fans dont realize that Conjuration-Nen has a Replacement-Variant, as shown by Tsubone, Ikalgo and Greed Island. A Mechanic that i imagine to be quite popular as it's simple but potent: You give something up to get something new.
You could even go to Extremes and conjure yourself into something like a Blade that cant levitate but needs to be used by Someone as a mere Blade,
which would sacrifice everything about you temporarily (or even forever), even youre Autonomy, just to gain give youre Comrade Power.
It’s basically Transifguration-Magic, the thing that Prof McGonagall teaches.
Funny/Epic enough: this is the type that doesnt just allows you to summon Creatures like Werewolves but BECOME ONE. Wow.
And of course all this can be used as Self-Cursing, which Conjuration is anyway best-suited for.
Wasn't implied that in Heavens Arena Kuroro didn't fought Hisoka alone? Being that the reason why Hisoka now is trying to target all individual members of the Genei Ryodan before fighting him. At least that's what I got from that.
Is Nen-Teamwork broken? I was wondering this before, especialy when Nobunaga was taken out easssily by a Conjurer but to stay with Bonelenov as an example: WAIT, if i know this guy can turn into people, cant I make m Activation-Requirement to do all kinds of complex Rituals with someonelone looking like my Arch-Enemy, a Guy who would never ever do such Friendship-Rituals-and-Dances with me?? Specialists can, when strong Requirements are fullfilled, steal Abilities so why cant i cheat with that to no end?
I find it amazing you still figure out video ideas for a anime/manga that went on hiatus centuries ago
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Bungee Gum has the properties of both rubber and gum.
Please stop 😭
Its not funny
Every freaking time Hisoka is mentioned this stupid 20 year old meme gets brought up and its SO PAST being old for the love of anything Good in this world please STOP
Ikr? it's so overused, and it's not even funny😭😭 @theinfernoburns
@@lulootako8181 it's just lazy engagement farming and it really shows the Internet is just a bunch of recycled memes and unoriginal jokes.
1:12 I’m gonna download Raid Shadow Legends just because of you now 🤣
The raid show legends transition 😂😂 😂 i watched it thru this time for you leaving that bit in
If I had to guess, I'd say the condition for Chrollo's bookmark ability is that he cannot lie for the rest of his life. Not lying for only the time it's active doesn't seem like a harsh enough drawback for how powerful the ability is
Can’t wait for Kurapika to try and untangle this whole mess
Me too... I was hoping to hear from even the slightest Kurapica fan.
Big fan of the chain-user here! ⛓️⛓️⛓️
I think of it with two scenarios. In the troupe backstory we see that all the phantom troupe has ever wanted to be were actors. Now they’ve grown and are well renowned figures in the underworld as seen on the ship, and are quite skilled as thieves plotting their next heist.
1. Hisoka isn’t on the ship at all, the troupe does seem to want to kill hisoka but having him on the ship while also trying to hit the royal family for their treasure seems like the common goal. So they set up this act of hisoka vs the troupe to get their way to the top and steal the treasure. Chrollo makes his way up to tier 1 and manages to steal what he can but while he succeeds in doing that the rest of the troupe left in the lower tiers will most likely die being caught in the mafia wars.
2. Hisoka is in fact on the ship. Hisoka and Illumi have said that they share some sort of “cat and mouse” type of relationship or a “tag you’re it” kind of game with each other, which would lead one to believe that he helped hisoka tag along on the ship. His ultimate goal is to kill chrollo and he’s aware that chrollo also may have some if not all of the abilities from the troupe at his disposal, and that’s why he chooses to pick them off one by one before fighting chrollo, so that he has less abilities to use making it more advantageous.
(Also I don’t think chrollo can use the copy ability with the hands because he killed Kortopi)
I love how you introduced Raid, im ready to play! Thanks for keeping the moment!
He could also just Skill hunt the ability from mummy man, since the troupe have shown to trust Chrollo enough to just give their abilities to him. That means he wouldnt need to fiddle with his bookmark or his hands having marks on them.
Cool theory but that is 200% without a doubt, Hisoka. The reason why Hiso does not reply when asked about his identity is because he’s stronger than those who are crossing his path. He’s the only person who’s been shown to deduce other’s power levels using a number system and among the nen users on the Black Whale, he easily lands somewhere in the top 10. He’s literally enjoying the cruise. Also, simply because he’s carrying himself differently doesn’t necessarily make it “out of character”. He’s in stealth mode until someone forces his bloodlust. Lynch was not fast enough to strike Hiso. That much is clear. It was nothing more than overwhelming aura. When told that he basically had a bounty on his head the expression that he made clearly reveals that it’s Hisoka who’s looking forward to the chaos that will ensue. Hinrigh giving access to tier 1 just puts Hiso closer to the princes and in my opinion he will eventually attend their dinner parties or events. Maybe even form a relationship with one. This also leaves room for Hiso to cross paths with Kurapika before the troupe does.
The Thing playing in the cinema is crazy never noticed that but I audio didn’t watch that movie until this year. Highly recommend everyone check out the 1982 version then check out the 2011 version
cool video!
Togashi's random ahh posts of rough drafts still gives me hope this series continues.
My boy really keeping the HxH fandom alive
This is a great theory, and pairs nicely with the Hisoka is disguised as Illumi theory, I think. Would be an interesting contrast between the two
Something I realized while watching this is that Chrollo seems particular skilled with these quick, phantom like/hard to see, 1 hit knockout moves. He was the only nen user If I'm not mistaken that was shown using this particular strike in this way, first time being back in YorkNew with Neon.
I used to think that he was able to do that just because he's a nen user, a powerful one at that, but while watching this video I started considering the idea that this simple looking strike could be some sort of aggressive pickpocketing move variant that he learned and then developed growing up in Meteor City..
Again, other nen users could totally pull this off against humans just because of the humongous difference in power that Nen gives compared to a normal person, or if strong enough, even against other unsuspecting nen users, but, following the context of this debate, this sneaky style is something that we would expect from Chrollo. Hisoka is a lot more flashy and brutal, he's usually either making a spectacle out of his fights or brutally murdering someone..
Great video as always!
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Out of the topic question: In episode 38, Gon and Killua is listening to the recording of Gon's father. During that scene, Gon's father was shown riding a creature that is riding a much larger creature and behind him is the world tree sipping nutrients from magma. But Ging, in the final episode, hasn't acquired a single requirement to explore the dark continent. So, who is the guy in episode 38?? is it an animation mistake?
I never read the manga but whenever u post abt hxh i stg the writer be showing us the greatest masterpiece of writing
Uuuuhm, time to read Manga then?
Btw
Most Fans dont realize that Conjuration-Nen has a Replacement-Variant, as shown by Tsubone, Ikalgo and Greed Island. A Mechanic that i imagine to be quite popular as it's simple but potent: You give something up to get something new.
i feel like shizuku and franklin gona do some clean up in morenas place
I really like this theory. I could totally see Chrollo pulling something like this. But I also like that it leaves the question of what is Hisoka doing? And I think he's gonna try to help Gon get his nen back by maybe attacking Mito or something. Cause Hisoka has always had a soft spot for Gon
stopped watching ur vids for a while cause i was getting sad since hxh stopped releasing again. but seeing this now makes me anticipate hxh even more! thannk u
HOLY!!!!!!! this makes sooo much more sense. Togashi really the goat. Hisoka could be, chrollo,illumi, bonolenov, or even hisoka. All are completely viable options all set up so perfectly.
Hisoka wouldn't go after Chrollo. Hisoka comfirmed that Chrollo sees the trope as part of himself. So pulling the legs off the spider would be how he would approach it. Letting the trope do its thing while he lines up how to ruin Chrollo through killing the trope members. Putting Chrolla in a emotionally charged state that may make ending him far easier. Which would be in line with the change in Hisoka's mentally that happened post fight with Chrollo.
So would that mean Hisoka actually died or that Chrollo/ Benolenov just took his form and he did revive but he's just somewhere esle? It would be interesting if Hisoka reviving isn't actually Hisoka but some entity from the Dark Continent taking his body (hence The Thing) and why Lynch could have not been able to sniff it out due to technicality (it being Hisoka in a way so not lying).
I love how deep and layered hxh is man. Maybe it's just cause of how much time there is in between releases leaving us nothing else to do but theorize. But either way I love it.
Great theory/video man!
If you like that, then 'Alexanderz' has more deepdives
I really like this Theory. It's crazy how Hunter Hunter fans will just keep reading the chapters over and over again until the next chapter comes out 5 years later
Chrollo might also disguse as Hisoka to confirm "Illumi" motives. But the Illumi we have seen might be Hisoka. So this will be very funny 😂
When are we gonna talk about how crazy it would be if Gon regained Nen use if he met and identified with Gyro after seeing the true darkness of the world and being changed during the Chimera Ant Arc? Or how about how Ging implies knowing how Gon could regain Nen use and also has no known Nen Affinity even though he was added to the latest diagram?
Ain’t no way my dude just referenced Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince at 1:10😂😂😂
This has to be my favorite theory yet. Excited to see what Togashi got cooking.
Cuello wants the kings Nen ability. Considering how the spiders work. This ability would make them unstoppable. Plus pushing future members to get even stronger.
Chrollo could also have just borrowed Bolonelov's ability with Skill Hunter. Slightly less convoluted than the Convert Hands, but with the same result. Depends on whether there would be some strategic advantage that Metamorph-osen has that Convert Hands does not. He has borrowed skills from other Troupe members before after all, so it wouldn't be off-brand for him to borrow a skill that he could utilize better in a plan.
Intriguing. I'm glad to find out about these things since I don't read the Manga
And "Hizoka" put that girl to sleep the same way Chrollo put Neon to sleep... a really swift move almost imperceptible
many suggest tall bodyguard with kurapika is hisoka . illumi deceive chrollo to think that hisoka not in the ship . Meanwhile hisoka wait them at tier one . LOL
1:11 that transition was wild af 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 bro doesnt gaf frfr
That Chrollo and 4th Prince encounter is going to be legendary.
I can believe it, and is why I am perfectly fine waiting as long as necessary for more HxH. Togashi's storytelling is an unparalelled masterclass. It's terrible what the industry has done to his health abd because of that I am more than happy to wait as long as necessary rather than see this once in a generation man work himself into an early grave. We've gotten so many great manga over the years, but I have to say, HxH I think has THE greatest overall world building and story telling of anything made in the last 40-50 years, and it feels like the story isn't even halfway over
Also, are we not forgetting that Illumi can also not only shapeshift himself, but other people as well?? So the troupe actually has three shapeshifters. Plus, with what “Hisoka” is wearing, I feel like his needles would be easy to hide either underneath the clothes or on his hands which he hasn’t shown. It just seems like a less convoluted way for Chrollo to disguise himself, instead of through Bolenov.
Welcome back hxh!
God we need this series back 😭😭
Bro this was legitimiately a brilliant theory. Keeping the HxH fire alive!!
Sometimes some of these are like conspiracy theorists "do your own research", but this one has some solid points and evidence that we can't put past Togashi to lay out for us. After all, he did create a whole "card game" when he absolutely did not need to
For awhile, i was wondering how Kurapika's story with the princes could possibly intersect with the troupe. But if this theory is true, then it gives a clear way for them to meet.
A couple of things I want to point out:
1. Chrollo wouldn't know about Benolinov's ability. In the manga, it's stated that none of the troupe know everything about each other's abilities. Like Machi knew about Hisoka's Bungee Gum, but no one knew about his Texture Suprise. The same applies to Chrollo, so he either has some other transformation ability or just wanted to get the mafia on guard about Hisoka.
2. I think lying is a part of Chrollo's new conditions for the bookmark, but that also disproves this theory because it seems that Chrollo qualifies staying silent as lying. As mentioned in the video, whenever Hisoka asks about the new abilities, Chrollo always answered honestly, when he could have stayed silent and gained a better advantage. Chrollo seems like someone who wants to deny Hisoka any form of satisfaction in this fight, so staying silent would have done that. This is just my opinion, but I think this Hisoka is either Benolinov or the real one.
Okay but what if Chrollo didn’t KNOW how to answer the question “Are you Hisoka?” Because his restriction on Double Face might have a different definition of what it means to BE Hisoka. If Chrollo said “yes” he may have been fine because, in a manner of speaking, he technically IS Hisoka. But if he said no, since it’s only a disguise, that might be considered a lie to the restriction due to him willfully presenting himself as Hisoka. That make sense?
That Raid commercial was hilarious😂❤
this is such a good theory, togashi must've known what he was doing sprinkling in all these details. all of it points to a clear conclusion, either hisoka is being secretive for some odd reason or its chrollo
The best thing about this is that it puts Illumi is Hisoka back on the table, since if this Hisoka isn't Hisoka...
the only hole i can see is that now Chrollo, and Bonolenov arent both present on the ship. people have a disribtion of hisoka,, but not concrete appearance, but the do have that for chrollo and bonolenov, so if either were missing it would be weird. so what if chrollo took his ability, since he has the mind to use it well, and changes his appearance between himself and hisoka, depending on what he is doing, and this can been doing by using the bookmark.
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but when he knocked the girl out it reminded me of the York new City arc
maybe he did the samething there (chrollo ofc)
Kurapika is in need of a nen exorcist and cheollo is the only nen exorcist on the ship(he probably took abagene ability) we might see kurapika and chrollo team up
Goddamn I love clicking on these videos prepared to call bs and that you’re reaching due to lack of new chapters, only to walk away with my mind blown every time. Great stuff amigo
This is the first time I’ve actually watched the sponsorship just because it was actually real. This is why they need to keep monetizing cause that was genius.
This would be a great parallel to Hisoka registering his name as Chrollo during Greed Island.
but here there are 1 more theory and that's Illumi is Hisoka, this is more evident in the Japanese version, because, Illumi ussualy reffers to himself with "Watashi," a way to Say "I" in Japanese is a polite way to say it, but in the spider reunion on the Black Whale, Illumi reffers to himself with "boku" is a more informal way to Say "I" and is the one that Hisoka uses, so the thing is this.
Maeby Chrollo is disguise as Hisoka, but Hisoka is disgise as Illumi, so we have a really good thing here.