Borrowing Blockbusters: The Best Worst Terminator Knock Offs, Rip-Offs and Clones
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- James Cameron's duo of Terminator movies inspired more than an incoherent franchise, there are also dozens of crazy rip-offs.
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00:00 Intro
01:10 Part 1: Pre T2
09:38 Foreign Terminator Knock Offs
17:09 Back to Hollywood
20:53 Background & Tropes
25:28 Part 2: Post T2
37:45 More Foreign Knock Offs
39:56 Modern Takes
44:55 Wind Up - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I think Genysis and Dark Fate could legit go in this video.
Dark Fate >>> Rise of the Machines
Lol 😆
@@StreetHierarchy Arse biscuits.
Woke Fate and Gene-piss are dreadful. Rise Of The Ma-shits was absolute dogshit too.
Lmao
So. I want you to know you've solved a decades long mystery for me. In ROTOR there's that silly robot cop called Willard. I was looking at him thinking "oh man. That sure looks a lot like that robot that came to the library that one day" then you said he was owned by a police department in Dallas.
I'm in Texas and this was the early 90s. This robot came to our school to do some kind of presentation. I was in kindergarten at the time so I was all about it.
But over the years I was the only one in my class that remembered.
I've tried for many years to use every Google search terms I could to locate information about that robot and couldn't find a single thing.
Until this video was suggested to me.
Thank you.
This is one of the most positive Connections Missed stories I've ever read... not that I read that sort of thing!
But I bet it's nice to put that ol' ghost out to pasture (& could even be an interesting bit of trivia for a class reunion lol)
FYI: _Willard The Robut_ was played by **APD2** & was 1st purchased by the police in Addison in `86 for ¡¿$17,75Ø?!
(I kinda wonder what happened to em & who was APD1 lol)
The internet is making the world both bigger and smaller in a good way.
I recalled two movie scenes from my childhood, no idea what either movie was. I managed to find one thanks to CZcams and google. I'm still passively looking for a movie involving a house with...er... different time periods in different rooms perhaps? I recall dinosaurs, and two men venturing into the unknown, one has a large gun and a small, offers the other the larger gun. It's a lighter.
Baron von Quiply tried Future War? It has a lot of the elements you remember.
@@porknbeans1977 Thanks for the suggestion, I'll take a look.
I have no idea where you found all these "movies." This is the best video I've seen about rip-offs, clones & knock-offs of other films. Great job !!
I couldn't agree more with what you have said.
The effort put in to this is incredible.
he has to be a cinemageddon user
Tubi App also has all these classics.
@@tonypine3434 it's a entertaining, funny great script, just shame there's not a lot of videos on the channel atm.
I watched all of them in the last 2 years. If you know your way around the web you can find them all.
That montage at about 22:00 in is absolutely brutal. Not only is this channel a great source for B-movie commentary and entertainment, it also features some fucking top-tier editing.
What’s that song though?!
@@luciditythruireNYHC Karl Casey - The Final Chapter (czcams.com/video/jGLbYhfP0EE/video.html&ab_channel=WhiteBatAudio)
@@luciditythruireNYHC White Bat - The Final Chapter. He makes a shitload of royalty-free electronic music.
It's amazing to see what Hamill and Fisher got talked into doing after Star Wars!
The only career that wasn't tarnished by Star Wars was Ford's...at least for a while
Well to be clear the entire cast hated star wars. They wanted nothing to do with staw whars
They were both terrible actors back then, not surprising.
Carrie Fisher was known for her cocaine habit.
One had a huge drug problem and the other desperately wanted not to be typecast
I never realized R.O.T.O.R. was set in Dallas. I actually got to "meet" that real Dallas PD robot. They brought it to my school (or a very similar robot, as this was the early 90s and I was just a kiddo) one day. I think DART (the local Dallas mass transit system/company) also has their own robot in the early 90s, thought I'm not 100%.
Very interesting. Dallas sure is a robot city, first time a police robot killed a perpetrator happened in Dallas in 2016 i think.
A low budget movie from 1994 seems like a modest-budget movie from 1984. It's crazy how dated some of these early 90s knockoffs look next to their bigger-budget contemporaries. Still, I'm a sucker for a decent cyberpunk action-thriller and prefer practical effects and the grittier tone of older films - I wonder which of these are worth a watch? I've been meaning to see CLASS OF 1999!
I think Class of 99 is definetly a badass film, i also love Time Guardian, the one mentioned here that's with Carrie Fisher
Nice practical effect, and good, to great actting can make or break any movie. Or TV series for that matter. The twilight zone, and some of the old 1930's movie theater serials, through 1980's TV & movie seriers like slient running. We're great actting, nice sets, nice propes. Huey, deey,louey. Robots of the silent running walking trash canes. Worn buy actors. Mimicking R2D2 type facke robot. Man in suite. Still is better than reality of 25,000. R2D2 robot toy.
Tank Girl was great.
I amazed by your steady delivery without loosing it and falling around laughing...
This deserves... no demands a like and subscribe! lol
I amazed by the number of people who spell "lose" as "loose" and "losing" as "loosing."
@@lanceash Those idiots don't deserve air...
Probably took several tries, but still, this guy is really good.
@@lanceash it is annoying, but not all that amazing that people should confuse spellings of homonyms
Given your references to anime before in your Star Wars video, I'm really astounded you don't mention Bubblegum Crisis which not only takes heavily from Terminator (many aspects of the Boomers), but mashes it up with Streets of Fire (awesome 80s music!) and Blade Runner (Boomers also socially are often like Replicants) to create one of the most amazing Cyberpunk stories of all time!
Also, Masamune Shiro's Black Magic M-66 manga and its semi-adaptation of the same name anime also borrows very heavily in story and style from Terminator as well as Blade Runner.
In Eliminators, that's Denise Crosby at 4.02, a year before Star Trek: The Next Generation started and she became better known for playing Tasha Yar. Actually it's interesting how many famous face B movie actors turn up in these clips. John Saxon, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hammil, Van Damme, Olivier Gruner, Jan Michael Vincent, Julian Sands and so on. I also love your Matt Berry reference too, although that joke may be lost on some of the non British viewers. Glad to see Eve of Destruction gets a brief mention as I remember that was released in the UK on VHS just before Terminator 2 and they really tried to cash in on the hype surrounding the T2 theatrical release with a big advertising campaign in video shops and trailering it on other rental titles. Not sure I'd agree with linking Universal Soldier here though as that was a major worldwide theatrical release in the summer of 1992 anyway and unlike almost all of the other films here, Universal Soldier had a decent production budget for the era ($23 million) whereas most of the others would have been a tenth of that at most. I'm also surprised Chuck Norris never appeared in a terminator knock off seeing as Cannon films were quick to use him to cash in on other genres.
yeah!
Yeah, I right away though, isn't she the Tasha Yar actress? Was also counting which actors in these movies I've seen in some classics. Like in "The Time Guardian" the guy from Dune and other movies (Dean Stockwell).
"Unimaginable technical advances" *whilst showcasing a calculator wristwatch*
Great work. I remember a few of these films growing up in the 80s and early 90s. There was a few I forgot about. As fan of terminator and big Arnie I was obsessed with cyborg movies. Class of 1999 ,digital man and Nemisis were a few of my favourites. I look back fondly. Those were the days. Keep up the great work.
Class of 99 where Trent Reznor got soundtrack play for almost literally nothing since he had not be discovered, beyond clubs, as of the time. I own Class of 99 great movie.
Yeah, same here. Used to love Digital Man in particular. It's actually uploaded on CZcams.
I remember the Nemesis movies, and Time Runner I found the first four while browsing through the scifi section of a movie rental place in the late 2000s. I wonder if I'm the only one who saw Cyborg 2 before the original.
Oh, man, do I love Class of 1999!
Just saw that Henry Silva died 3 weeks ago aged 95
Hardware was a direct copy of a story that appeared in the comic 2000 ad.
Didn't they try to sue at one point?
@@JoeyXSmith I think so. The creators of the film had to acknowledge them in the credits.
GunHed is such an awesome Tokusatsu film, I especially loved the score by Toshiyuki Honda
Fun Fact: James Cameron said in one of his interviews that GunHed is one of his favourite B Movies
I've only just discovered this channel but it's my new favourite. Absolutely love it. Thank you for what you do!
4:03 if Brent Spiner and John Waters got trapped in the Telepod together.
15:55
Interesting note about GunHed, it was apparently pitched as a potential sequel to The Return of Godzilla aka. Godzilla 1985. Godzilla vs. Biollante was ultimately chosen, but the script was repurposed into the film we know today. Stock footage & some models from GunHed were also used in some early teaser trailers for Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 2.
Ah biollante. . . Hands down the coolest kaiju ever conceived. . .
I'm a big Godzilla fan but didn't know that, thanks.
Yup...I believe it was called Godzilla vs the Askua Fortress....which essentially sees Godzilla vs Skynet. Such an awesome concept.
I grew up in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex and I remember that robot coming to my first grade class back in 1990, pretty crazy
31:20 - "them boys are going to be up to their ass in robots"
Those must be some very short robots. More adorable than scary.
From the unimaginable dystopian hell of the year 2022 - Eh, it's a fair cop. No wait, I meant Robo... damn it.
I keep holding out hope that these videos will help me find those very specific "fever dream B-movies that you saw on late night TV as a kid but definitely wasn't supposed to see" one day
@15:40 Ultraman and Ultras aren't robots. Despite their appearance they are living organic creatures.
I tied myself in a boring knot trying to explain that, then decided to use a different example, then decided it needed to be Ultraman after all and forgot why I changed him in the first place. 😂 You're right though, it's misleading.
They’re beetles 🪲
I watched The Terminators (2009) many years ago... I was sick with a Migraine in the middle of it, that's the only part of the film I fondly remember. Good times.
There was a video on Vice News CZcams channel about the production company which produced movies like The Terminators and the one representative was very down to earth about their intentions in making such movies.
Wow. Just found your channel and it's my new favorite thing. Your commitment to respectfully ribbing these lost "treasures" is refreshing and thoroughly enjoyable. Subbed!
"The Tomorrow Man" directed by Bill D'Elia, Father of Chris D'Elia. Now we know that Chris isn't the only POS Bill gave us in this world.
Surprised "Abraxas: Guardian of the Universe" didn't even get a mention in this one. And, you spoke of a couple of films that could've inspired RoboCop, but yet "The Vindicator" (which did show up briefly in the honorable mentions) is one that many say seems to very much be the proto-RoboCop.
I remember that. With the big Russian
Thank you very much for publishing these videos there were movies of Cyborgs that I did not know. There is a movie in particular, I don't remember the title, that I saw in 2000 about a woman who eliminates her husband in a fight of domestic violence, a man escapes from a cororation and hides in the house of this woman. Both fight against the men sent until they manage to eliminate everyone, but in the end the man attacks the woman and leaves her blind in one eye, she rips the skin off his face and reveals that he had a mechanical brain, finally with a rifle The woman manages to destroy it, he tells her they will come for you Grace before dying, the woman equips herself and escapes on a motorcycle. I could never find the movie again.
Okay that sound .."interesting". Do you found out what the title that movie?
The 1970's TV series Battlestar Galactica also kind of pre-figured the plot of Terminator, PARTLY anyway, with the "Cylons".
Don't believe his "fever dream" inspiration one bit, you do know about the outer limits episode? You can find it on here
@@jamesjameson4566 Dude, the fever dream is for how it looks. Not the plot. The plot itself was done way before Battlestar too. Not only in books but radio dramas and movies. Even Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers have done it.
@@AllyMonsters his fever dream was a big lie to cover his blatant rip off
@@jamesjameson4566 All are big rip off of just 7 stories plots. So unless ya can make a magical 8th. Good luck with that.
@@AllyMonsters oh looky here someone's regurgitating something he's heard in film studies class and he's writing it down here as if it's gospel
Aw man, Terminator the Second. I was so lucky to catch this like 11 years ago with cameos by the Protomen.
From the adult side of things, I'd recommend Penetrator II. The dialogues and (slightly modified) story are, thanks to all actors' and actresses' performances, ehm, nailing it.
One that wasn't mentioned that I heartily recommend (and is an excellent film) is 'I Love Maria' aka Roboforce.
Your taste is beyond reproach! (This one was in and out but I ultimately thought it was a little more RoboCop.)
@@TheBadMovieBible robocop 2 copied from I Love Maria where the pioneer 1 was being surrounded and attacked by police. Also robocop 2 being rammed by armored scout vehicle was copied from Japanese anime. Both were adopted in robocop 2 where caine Robocop 2 was being surrounded and attacked by police plus being rammed by armored scout vehicle driven by Lewis.
Dr Silverman again? he was in 3 terminators & now knock offs too.
He was in four Terminator films: the three mainline ones plus in Genesis. Not sure about Dark Fate since i never bothered with that crap.
So, a friend of mine made a living in LA in the late 80s early 90s as the guy who would blow up a car for $500. He worked a lot. You provide the car and the camera, and he did the rest.
This brings back a lot of memories. I was obsessed with cyborg/robot movies as a kid and rented probably a 3rd of these films from an independent rental shop I have a ton of nostalgia for. Almost all of them were awful, and I doubt I'd make it through most of them today, but they furnished me with a lifetime of fun Friday night memories.
This is an awesome video. There are some real good moments of entertainment in some of these movies. This reminded me of a few I saw when I was a kid. Definitely gonna go back and watch them. Thanks!!
The opening scene of Cyborg Cop 2 is honestly one of the most action packed scenes in cinema
"Someone convinced Carrie Fisher to be in this." Bro, Cocaine is a hell of a drug, a very expensive one at that.
The Time Guardian with Carrie Fisher and Time Runner with Mark Hammil (both famed Star Wars actors). Eliminators with Denise Crosby (Star Trek: The Next Generation) and the tin canned s.o.b. running weapons blazing like a Guntank! Waldo Warren packs a punch like an awkward Punisher toy or Sex Machine out of "From Dusk 'till Dawn" and Cyber Tracker likes blowing up cars!!! I really loved your work!!!
Again, fantastic work!!! I believe one of the selling points of Robot Holocaust, was that it was made of home viewing. Like that was a thing they did to avoid the truffles of the cinema.
Dude, this is so well put together and narrated. Great clips of the films and witty (not trite) commentary.
Thank you and keep up the awesome work. I hope more shlock fans find your channel.
it is excellent only... he never blinks
There are probably millions of CZcams channels at this point but this one is by far the very best.
Oh man, that scream & ear bleeding death in Retaliators gave me the best laugh I've had in weeks.
This is all so good. It's like you're broadcasting from a parallel universe. "In Earth 322 Carrie Fischer was in a movie called Time Guardian." It wasn't great.
Glad I found this channel.
The was a very fun, comprehensive and towards the end, exhaustive compilation of "Terminator" ripoffs and I enjoyed it a lot. The ratings scales helps a lot too cuz I've only seen 1 or 2 of these flicks from start to finish, and have seen bits and pieces of several others.
“…In a scene that proves that editing can happen by accident.” Lmaooo my dude
How on earth this man narrates without cracking up is beyond comprehension.
For info, according to wikipedia the date of release of Captain Power & the soldiers of the future is September 1, 1987 -
March 27, 1988... Overmind was too a spherical looking "A.I." and was obviously heavily inspired by Terminator.
I had no idea there was so many knock offs. Great video
I savour these videos like fine art.
Thank you, sir!
JESUS CHRIST ! The way “ ROTOR” menacingly walked through those chairs 🪑 scared the shit out of me !!!
Same! I just _knew_ it was going to trip & throw a servo...
🦵💥💺➿🤸♂️〰️🤖
**It's Cyborgin Time**
@@favoritemustard3542 LMFAOOOOOO
@@dominicksignoretti315 a 1 second clip of that scene is even in the trailer!
...& then someone says how _ROTOR would walk through a bus full of nuns to get to a jaywalker_
W+F!? Someday... we'll make great pets (I hope j/k)
I can agree, Nemesis, was a great movie. And also again, I've seen most of these movies... >_>
I grew up a JCVD fan and loved Cyborg, but when you watch those movies back today Nemesis is in another league. Apparently Pyun had to make all kinds of compromises and considered the ropey sequels superior, which is crazy talk.
@@TheBadMovieBible The first Nemesis was the best one of the series and it honestly still holds up in many ways. I tried to watch the sequels and they just didn't measure up at all.
@@TheBadMovieBible Quick question, was Cyborg and Nemesis supposed to have a crossover, there's a clip online supposedly of an alternate ending where it teased just that?
Some of those clips and your comments made me laugh so much.... it was the era when almost ever other movie in the video store was about a post apocalyptic event where everyone wore a saucepan on their head and a string vest for reasons best known to themselves 🤣🤣
Thanks for the nostalgic trip down memory lane most of these movies were a huge part of my childhood they just don't make movies like they did in the late 80s/early 90s
Thanks again much appreciated 👍🇦🇺
I was just thinking about that street racing scene in Burst City yesterday. The heavily eyeshadowed "country boy" has me rolling every time.
GunHed was actually based on a script sent in to be considered for a Godzilla movie but lost the contest but was turned into GunHed.
Subscribed, so I don't miss out when you get to the long and proud history of Alien and Aliens knockoffs
Oh... it will happen!
It's here
@@Fluffyolphert I saw it. And once that's done, the brief but packed history of Matrix Knockoffs during the early 2000's
I think it's amazing how Robert Patrick is in future hunters
Multiverse!
Another fantastic video! Nobody researches these movies like you do!
I've watched a number of your videos and really enjoyed them. This one, however, was absolutely fantastic and pushed your channel from a library playlist to a full subscription. Great content, sir!
I just found your channel and I wanted to say that you're amazingly witty. I'm seriously enjoying your content. Amazing job!
Thanks very much, John!
For a change CZcams recommended a good channel! Nice voice and good content, keep up the good work!
You helped me track down Cy Warrior. For the love of me, I couldn't remember the name of the movie, just bits from memory. Saw that movie when I was 7 or 8 years old. You're the man!
I'm watching this video (excellent work, by the way) at 8:13pm CST, September 16th, 2022 and get a notification that Henry Silva has passed at age 95. What a world we live in.
Edit: typed Sept 6th instead of 16th.
you sir, are a legend! you've just given me my watchlist for the next 2 weeks :D
I feel I owe you a debt of gratitude, wasting your life watching these cinematic abominations so the rest of us don't have to. On behalf of the rest of us . . . I salute you, sir.
This channel and these videos should have more views. Flat out hilarious (impeccable selection of movies + perceptive analysis + dead pan delivery of commentary lol).
I'd still argue that "Sarah Connor Chronicles" was the best out of the post-T2 installments. It's a shame it was cancelled before it had a legitimate chance.
I’m so glad this series of videos is continuing! They’ve all been great!
Thanks very much! They'll keep going until my computer's repossessed or my eyeballs revolt.
@@TheBadMovieBible This series of videos IMO, is one of the best on YT.
So, basically... copying things is not the best idea, right? I wonder... are there examples in film history where the rip-offs were better than the originals? Genuine question
The absolute worst two exploit/rip-offs were "Genisys" and "Dark Fate".
Oh my god Robot Holocaust. I don't know why but I remember that being a hilarious but also extremely painful MST3K episode. One of my least favorite tropes from 80's sci-fi is 'Hey! James Cameron filmed stuff in a factory! We should do that too!'
Yeah; no.
More of these please. My favourite collection of videos. Amazing work
i started watching this to chill out, but it was highly informative and actually wish it'd be even longer :-)
Used to pile into our Local Vid store in the 80's and you saw Vid boxe's with Movies like these , but you went for something else..But I did see Time Runner and others from this great Mem jog..
Future Hunters at 22:50 with a very young Robert Patrick! I guess all these Terminator clones do exist in a giant multiverse, with only Cameron's Terminator films the true winners.
Wow, these make Cyborg look like an academy award sweeping masterpiece!!
Keep em coming bro ,making some of the best and original bad movie content on yt lately
Daniel Bernhardt has had an impressive career BOTH as an actor and a stunt performer/coordinator. Good Day to Die Hard, Deadpool 2, Guardians 3, John Wick 1, 2, & 3, Nobody, Matrix Reloaded, Logan, Lethal Weapon, Hobbs & Shaw, an on and on.
I remember first seeing him in Future War on MST3K 20+ years ago, then noticing him in one of the Matrix movies and checking his IMDB to my delight. Seems like a hardworking and accomplished working performer.
Thanks for showing all these. Ive learned of many of them over time like Nemesis and Cyber Cop but others are more obscure.
These films were all over the VHS video Rental stores and on television often in the 90s.
This is the second channel i have come across this week that deserves far more subs for the hard work put into the videos
What was the other channel?
As always a delight to watch. And so educational!
I'm very glad I've found this channel. This is is the second video I've watched, after your Jaws video, and I'm love these. They're a great resource and time capsule.
The whole Days of Future Past saga in X-men comics, with Nimrod and Bishop is directly taken from Terminator (not talking about the movie, but the comic book).
Also, the Cable character is a mixture of Kyle Reese and the Terminator.
Jim Carol is Walmart Jim Cameron.😂😂😂
Love your videos so much information and really well researched well done thank you so much 😊
Thanks, Alison, much appreciated.
You've really out done yourself with this masterstroke of an episode, thank you! There was so many films I haven't seen.
Thanks for finding all these movies. I didn't even know half of them!
"Could be a small animal" lol
I lol'd at the part for real
The best Terminator knock off would have to be the Red Dwarf episode “DNA”.
Terminator and Robocop as Lister had a Robocop style helmet.
One of the things that I noticed about Alienator is that it is really two different movies. There is the space prison movie with Jan Michael Vincent and a middle aged, but still divine P. J. Soles, and then there is the victims being hunted down by an Unstoppable Whatever movie, with very little connective tissue between them.
Charles Band's son was the lead singer for The Calling, best known for "Wherever You Will Go." Although the One Hit Wonderland video on them meant I already knew of his film work somewhat.
Also, Bill D'Elia is indeed Chris D'Elia's father.
From Brazil. I love this channell. More explotantion. Please
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You are my favorite master of bad movies. Your channel is b-movie elite. The time and effort you must have put into watching these films and putting all of this work together deserves applause. This is the best damn movie channel on CZcams. You fuel my love for bad movies like an A.P.E.X. explosion. Thank you for bringing your passion and intelligence to these films that I adore and collect for all the wrong and right reasons...and for tuning me into even more. Sure I like artsy fartsy fodder like The Tree Of Life (2011) and The Fall (2006) and Boyhood (2014). But I am exponentially proud of cult films and b-movies. Thank you for celebrating for the legion of us out there that just can't get enough bad movies. Birdemic: Shock And Terror (2010) forever. What a story, Mark. You can't piss on hospitality! Do the BIM!
Thanks very much, Fletch. That's a really nice thing to read.
Falsely attributed quote@@TheBadMovieBible~
*_*From B to Z - thee can count on me!*_*
Sorry, I shall stop now.
...What I won't stop is: digging through yer backlog like a bad(?) dog...
"Isn't that IMMORAL?" Oh, I lost it right there.
Thanks for your time to create this video with outstanding narrating, your voice is perfect for narration and I've just subscribed. Looking forward to watching more. :-)
Love it. Great work as always.
This is my favorite kind of video you guys do! It looks like it takes awhile to compile all of the different movies into one and I get that, but damn is it worth it! Here's a comment for the algorithm! 👍
Cheers buddy!
Having watched bad movie oriented youtube channels for years now; I thought I was familiar with almost all terrible movies from the 80s and 90s. You sir, have opened my eyes to just how much terrible is really out there still waiting to be rediscovered. ONE of your videos has more bad movie content that most youtubers put out in a year.
Loving all your videos and how your editing makes me laugh out loud... Kudos to you for putting yourself through all of this.... Keep up the good work
Thanks kindly!
38:00 ah this movie, I remember how awful it was. And many people to this day still shit on this movie
This movie had many top Bollywood stars and singer starring in this movie, but the plot is something else, like the Terminator is actually an ancient human where he somehow times travel to meet up with his lover, only to find out she is raped and murdered, so he decides to kill everyone she knows. And the sole survivor of this tale is the singer Sonu nigam(his songs are great) who's act was beyond Terrible in this movie.