I'm 16 and glad to say as of yesterday I've recived a offer from an employer for my electrical Apprenticeship. This channel and Thomas Nagy are the only reason I thought it would be possible to enter the industry.
Stick with it all of you ,it's a great job , career , vocation you need dedication and discipline and don't think you know it all , you never will , and don't buy £25 or £30 cutters ,you will lose them that goes for all the most expensive tools , pay mid range , mine are £10 Irwin ,if I lose them buy another set and buy a metal tool box ,last you a lifetime don't buy plastic they are all crap , and lastly understand your trade , don't turn up and say what do you want me do , you should know ! Stay in and do the maths + science it will pay you off big time , don't scrimp on your knowledge ever , and do your testing 2391 ,take pride in your work and try be the best , its life long learning if you fail any exam DO IT AGAIN, you will have knocks up and down but stick with it
i know the way im currently doing it is probally not very popular with the sparky community however it was pretty much the only option for me, im doing it through one of these " new trades " companys , you pay monthly and get sent books and get access to material and have to do the C&G exams when you complete the criteria, i simply cant afford to go back to college (they are all closed atm anyway)or be an apprentice.... i have a mortgage and a newborn, so this "home study" approach works much better, and before everyone shoots me down saying i will have the quals but not the experience, im working with a sparky for free 1 day a week, and will be until i qualify in 3/4 years, just putting another option out there :)
I did a domestic course at trade skills 4u at 64 years old and I am always on youtube watching every post to do with electrics I have checked all the electrics in my house and corrected every thing that is not to regs ie no gromets in any back boxes. To many to list but all fine now. I bought a kewtech 63 plus that cjr uses and all tests out fine. Also had pull swich in bathroom so moved it outside and connected it to a normal light switch much better. and no problem with zones as outside the bathroom. I don't have a problem now with any domestic electrics. Great course but must learn yourself by watching and reading.
I got a friend he finished EAL lvl 2 and after he started working as a electrician mate...and after one year as a mate he done lvl 3 and all the other qualification and now he is qualified..
What is the point of NIC and NAPIT? It lets you sign off part P work. That applies to installations in dwellings not commercial settings. I guess also a nice badge for your van along with other warning notices such as CheckATrade and Chas. Part P was heavily relaxed in 2013 leaving only a sprinkling of jobs in dwellings that require notification. On a full rewire you could simply notify via local authority so no need for NAPIT. So what “scheme” covers commercial work? The Electricity at Work Act 1989.
There are three items of notifiable work under Part P. The CPS permits a member to give assent the work meets the requirements of building regs and 7671:18. But other aspects of electrical work touch on other building regs but can be un-notifiable. Those works should also be in accordance with 7671:18 and any other regs applicable. Such as cutting holes in rafters. Who even issues minor works certificates? Work undertaken by CPS persons in the blocks I manage rarely get them. And a DIYer wouldn’t issue one.
Thanks for the video! I am looking to become an electrician as a 2nd career and also keep my 1st career too. I plan to do the lv2/3 2365 at college with home study and move into the Level 3 NVQ. Am I unrealistic to think I could gain the experience for the NVQ under voluntary work 1 day a week? I appreciate this will take a lot longer to complete but I understand that. Appreciate your advice on this. Thanks
Im doing a electrical engineering course. im looking to get an apprenticeship in power engineering, i just feel theres more money and i love the thought of working with HV.
Yeah definitely mate. Im from Scotland i would like to work for Scotland power, or move to Newcastle or the north of England and work for Northern power
There’s not just being an electrician at the end of a course. There’s HVAC and BMS as kind of spin offs and possibly better than being in domestic lofts.
Maybe I need a follow up video Monty - this video was made as I take calls every week about becoming an electrician hopefully this will help answer those questions and reduce the calls 👍🏻
Presumably to get the qualification you actually have to take a test/exam and that's what counts, not attending a course? Can you book the exams separately (for people who reckon they know enough of this stuff already?) e.g. I have an engineering degree and a lifetime of DIY and I've read some books and the regs and plenty of discussion online between electricians about less clear-cut things. I'm sure there are some holes in my knowledge but I don't think I need a 2-yr college course. A bit of swotting and some example papers seems like the right sort of approach. What's the right route in for someone like that (for domestic work)?
Could you do a video on Periodic inspections? I manage three blocks of flats and have seen some shocking reports from Landlord owners having EICRs. Including results showing a near full rewire is needed but my MFT shows otherwise. Another berating a dodgy outside socket on a 4the floor dwelling with no garden. All from competent persons scheme “electricians”.
Thanks. I recently completed 2391-52 for this reason. But come from a specialist industrial background. I am seeking an EICR on my own home to calibrate my findings against a competent persons electrician. That perhaps would make an interesting CZcams video.
I’ve got my interview for an electrical apprenticeship tomorrow and I’m 16, I will be wearing suit pants, belt, black smart shoes , and a white smart shirt. Is that over dressing for an electrical apprenticeship interview or not? Would really appreciate an answer as my interview is tomorrow!!
Hi Gary, ... I'm 40+ how much, would a electrician course cost .. I've read it's £2000 per C&G .. can you advise or could i do a apprenticeship (free) if I wrote to sparks in my area .. would they take me on ?🤔
Hi I am 51 , my mate who is an electrician is trying to talk me out of re training as an electrician, I would have to go down the short courses route . What do you guys think ? . He thinks I should go into a different industry
@@GSHElectrical thanks for the advice , will the maths side be a bit difficult for someone outside of education for years thats the only thing that bothers me , I have seen quite a few of your videos , they are very good but some looks a bit complicated, but is that because it’s all new stuff from your experience? Do many fail at the maths ??
@@julespepper6691 it gets complex but you will sit in a classroom and do the same equations over and over for different circuits and installations. You get it by repetition in the end tbh. I know one heavily dyslexic electrician and he got through it all with a bit of help
I jumped blindly into a course that is costing me thousands level 2 and 3 then onto an am2/s how would I build a portfolio if I manage to find a work placement?
The college will guide you through the portfolio and identify areas of evidence you are required to have…. My rule is save everything, take pictures, record video, keep instructions, keep time sheet, keep site drawing etc 👍🏻
Mature student ... im finnishing full time eal level 2 and have spot for eal level 3 im looking for apprenticeship ... if i get one does it count as level 3 apprenteship or level 1? And whats the fastes way to be electrcian after that???
If you get a level 3 this can be imported (RPL) into your apprenticeship qualification but get this confirmed from your training provider because some start you back at year 1 of your apprenticeship so they can drawdown more funding (not great practice). Hope this help. Gaz 👍🏻
whats the cost of the courses to go on? does it vary region to region within the UK? even the cost of entry can be prohibitive enough, especially to adults wanting to go back and train. manufacturing has taken a massive dive in the past 18 months and has shrunk into very concentrated pockets throughout the UK and unless you can relocate or willing to travel galactic miles everyday, you may consider a career change.... case in point. Downturn and disillusionment are driving a diversification in career path but the upheaval is brutal to say the least. It's now down to a choice of either something in IT or Fintech, or going trades based.... neither is ideal.
3-5k a year, depends on college not region really (except in london I'd imagine) Government pays up to the age of 25, after that you got to convince someone that you are worth paying an extra 3-5 grand a year for... it's rare but it does happen.
Hi Gary , I’ve finished my level 2 diploma , just finished my level 3 diploma , and doing my 18th edition on Thursday , at my college on level 3 I have done the 8202 testing and inspection and 2365 but I’m worried that the 2391 testing and inspection is more recognised , I have already got an apprenticeship lined up and have been working with the guy for just under a year not on my apprenticeship and I’m starting my apprenticeship in September which will be a year and half , but I’m still worried that the 8202 won’t be as well recognised . (We didn’t get a choice to do 2391) , any help appreciated
Is the whole of the electrical industry in the UK tied to city and guilds? I've found the whole experience of 2365 to feel like a massive money making scam, as they gate keep access to the industry the course structure and schedule has been condensed so much to maximise profits from delivering the course you pretty much get processed like livestock in the shortest time possible. Actually learning something doesnt seem to matter, your handed mock exams with all the answers to question you get in your actual exams and shown a bunch of brief power point slides relating to answer to question in the current question pool. Understanding the subject didn't seem to matter. Since the cps lock down and requirements of a level 3 diploma & nvq to take an AM2 the whole training industry has turn into a money making ripoff zone. What Actually option do you have other than a c&g couse stripped back to half the amount of time it would realistically take to deliver the content, government funding for the course now has made the snatch and grab attitude of training schools even worse... I've not even worked in the industry and im already done with it.
I'm 16 and glad to say as of yesterday I've recived a offer from an employer for my electrical Apprenticeship. This channel and Thomas Nagy are the only reason I thought it would be possible to enter the industry.
Great news 👍🏻…. Hard work has its rewards. Gaz
Great news 👍🏻…. Hard work has its rewards. Gaz
I am a qualified electrician for 30 years and I am going through with my plan to do the apprenticeship course and I am nearly 50 years old
Stick with it all of you ,it's a great job , career , vocation you need dedication and discipline and don't think you know it all , you never will , and don't buy £25 or £30 cutters ,you will lose them that goes for all the most expensive tools , pay mid range , mine are £10 Irwin ,if I lose them buy another set and buy a metal tool box ,last you a lifetime don't buy plastic they are all crap , and lastly understand your trade , don't turn up and say what do you want me do , you should know ! Stay in and do the maths + science it will pay you off big time , don't scrimp on your knowledge ever , and do your testing 2391 ,take pride in your work and try be the best , its life long learning if you fail any exam DO IT AGAIN, you will have knocks up and down but stick with it
Some absolutely great advice given here by Gary and Marcus. 👍
Massive thanks for watching and the great comment
i know the way im currently doing it is probally not very popular with the sparky community however it was pretty much the only option for me, im doing it through one of these " new trades " companys , you pay monthly and get sent books and get access to material and have to do the C&G exams when you complete the criteria, i simply cant afford to go back to college (they are all closed atm anyway)or be an apprentice.... i have a mortgage and a newborn, so this "home study" approach works much better, and before everyone shoots me down saying i will have the quals but not the experience, im working with a sparky for free 1 day a week, and will be until i qualify in 3/4 years, just putting another option out there :)
Hi, did this path work out for you ?
I did a domestic course at trade skills 4u at 64 years old and I am always on youtube watching every post to do with electrics I have checked all the electrics in my house and corrected every thing that is not to regs ie no gromets in any back boxes. To many to list but all fine now. I bought a kewtech 63 plus that cjr uses and all tests out fine. Also had pull swich in bathroom so moved it outside and connected it to a normal light switch much better. and no problem with zones as outside the bathroom. I don't have a problem now with any domestic electrics. Great course but must learn yourself by watching and reading.
Thanks for taking the time to message me. 👍🏻. All the best. Gaz
I got a friend he finished EAL lvl 2 and after he started working as a electrician mate...and after one year as a mate he done lvl 3 and all the other qualification and now he is qualified..
What is the point of NIC and NAPIT? It lets you sign off part P work. That applies to installations in dwellings not commercial settings. I guess also a nice badge for your van along with other warning notices such as CheckATrade and Chas. Part P was heavily relaxed in 2013 leaving only a sprinkling of jobs in dwellings that require notification. On a full rewire you could simply notify via local authority so no need for NAPIT. So what “scheme” covers commercial work? The Electricity at Work Act 1989.
Interesting points as always
There are three items of notifiable work under Part P. The CPS permits a member to give assent the work meets the requirements of building regs and 7671:18. But other aspects of electrical work touch on other building regs but can be un-notifiable. Those works should also be in accordance with 7671:18 and any other regs applicable. Such as cutting holes in rafters. Who even issues minor works certificates? Work undertaken by CPS persons in the blocks I manage rarely get them. And a DIYer wouldn’t issue one.
Thanks for the video! I am looking to become an electrician as a 2nd career and also keep my 1st career too. I plan to do the lv2/3 2365 at college with home study and move into the Level 3 NVQ. Am
I unrealistic to think I could gain the experience for the NVQ under voluntary work 1 day a week? I appreciate this will take a lot longer to complete but I understand that. Appreciate your advice on this. Thanks
All the best and thanks for watching and commenting. Gaz 👍🏻
Im doing a electrical engineering course. im looking to get an apprenticeship in power engineering, i just feel theres more money and i love the thought of working with HV.
I worked for Western Power and the workers on the HV side earned more money and had greater opportunities for promotion. All the best. Gaz 👍🏻
Yeah definitely mate. Im from Scotland i would like to work for Scotland power, or move to Newcastle or the north of England and work for Northern power
There’s not just being an electrician at the end of a course. There’s HVAC and BMS as kind of spin offs and possibly better than being in domestic lofts.
Totally agree 👍🏻
I’ve liked your Instagram page.
Could someone who has worked in BMS, the High Voltage Side or in Off Shore Installation become a Dwelling Installer and would that experience count?
Maybe I need a follow up video Monty - this video was made as I take calls every week about becoming an electrician hopefully this will help answer those questions and reduce the calls 👍🏻
Presumably to get the qualification you actually have to take a test/exam and that's what counts, not attending a course? Can you book the exams separately (for people who reckon they know enough of this stuff already?) e.g. I have an engineering degree and a lifetime of DIY and I've read some books and the regs and plenty of discussion online between electricians about less clear-cut things. I'm sure there are some holes in my knowledge but I don't think I need a 2-yr college course. A bit of swotting and some example papers seems like the right sort of approach. What's the right route in for someone like that (for domestic work)?
Could you do a video on Periodic inspections? I manage three blocks of flats and have seen some shocking reports from Landlord owners having EICRs. Including results showing a near full rewire is needed but my MFT shows otherwise. Another berating a dodgy outside socket on a 4the floor dwelling with no garden. All from competent persons scheme “electricians”.
I will ask Matt and Marcus 👍🏻
Thanks. I recently completed 2391-52 for this reason. But come from a specialist industrial background. I am seeking an EICR on my own home to calibrate my findings against a competent persons electrician. That perhaps would make an interesting CZcams video.
Have you any recommend training providers for part time electrician course? 32 year old railway worker looking for a career change
WOW that was helpful 👏
Thanks for the support and feedback 💕🦾💕
I’ve got my interview for an electrical apprenticeship tomorrow and I’m 16, I will be wearing suit pants, belt, black smart shoes , and a white smart shirt. Is that over dressing for an electrical apprenticeship interview or not? Would really appreciate an answer as my interview is tomorrow!!
Fantastic and all the best 👍🏻
No look the part and be the part
There's no harm in wearing a tie, be as smart as you can, the way you present yourself counts a lot in any interview. Good luck.
Hi Gary, ...
I'm 40+ how much, would a electrician course cost ..
I've read it's £2000 per C&G ..
can you advise or could i do a apprenticeship (free) if I wrote to sparks in my area .. would they take me on ?🤔
Hi I am 51 , my mate who is an electrician is trying to talk me out of re training as an electrician, I would have to go down the short courses route . What do you guys think ? . He thinks I should go into a different industry
If your working until 67 years old then select the job you want to do 👍🏻
@@GSHElectrical thanks for the advice , will the maths side be a bit difficult for someone outside of education for years thats the only thing that bothers me , I have seen quite a few of your videos , they are very good but some looks a bit complicated, but is that because it’s all new stuff from your experience? Do many fail at the maths ??
@@julespepper6691 it gets complex but you will sit in a classroom and do the same equations over and over for different circuits and installations. You get it by repetition in the end tbh. I know one heavily dyslexic electrician and he got through it all with a bit of help
Stick with it mate...I am 60 and still trying to become fully skilled again as an electrician
I jumped blindly into a course that is costing me thousands level 2 and 3 then onto an am2/s how would I build a portfolio if I manage to find a work placement?
The college will guide you through the portfolio and identify areas of evidence you are required to have…. My rule is save everything, take pictures, record video, keep instructions, keep time sheet, keep site drawing etc 👍🏻
What’s the college called?
Mature student ... im finnishing full time eal level 2 and have spot for eal level 3
im looking for apprenticeship ... if i get one does it count as level 3 apprenteship or level 1? And whats the fastes way to be electrcian after that???
If you get a level 3 this can be imported (RPL) into your apprenticeship qualification but get this confirmed from your training provider because some start you back at year 1 of your apprenticeship so they can drawdown more funding (not great practice). Hope this help. Gaz 👍🏻
whats the cost of the courses to go on? does it vary region to region within the UK? even the cost of entry can be prohibitive enough, especially to adults wanting to go back and train. manufacturing has taken a massive dive in the past 18 months and has shrunk into very concentrated pockets throughout the UK and unless you can relocate or willing to travel galactic miles everyday, you may consider a career change.... case in point. Downturn and disillusionment are driving a diversification in career path but the upheaval is brutal to say the least. It's now down to a choice of either something in IT or Fintech, or going trades based.... neither is ideal.
3-5k a year, depends on college not region really (except in london I'd imagine) Government pays up to the age of 25, after that you got to convince someone that you are worth paying an extra 3-5 grand a year for... it's rare but it does happen.
Hey guys!💙 can anyone help me out with some examples of auxiliary equipment?💙
Grateful for your answer!Thank you 💙
electrical.theiet.org/media/1529/co-ordination-of-electrical-devices-and-auxiliary-circuits.pdf
@@GSHElectrical thanks!!!💙
Hi Gary , I’ve finished my level 2 diploma , just finished my level 3 diploma , and doing my 18th edition on Thursday , at my college on level 3 I have done the 8202 testing and inspection and 2365 but I’m worried that the 2391 testing and inspection is more recognised , I have already got an apprenticeship lined up and have been working with the guy for just under a year not on my apprenticeship and I’m starting my apprenticeship in September which will be a year and half , but I’m still worried that the 8202 won’t be as well recognised . (We didn’t get a choice to do 2391) , any help appreciated
What a fantastic message 👍🏻… I wish you all the best. Hard work has its rewards 🦾. Gaz
@@GSHElectricalliterally ignored what he asked 😂😂😂😂
Did they even read his comment 😂😂
Is the whole of the electrical industry in the UK tied to city and guilds? I've found the whole experience of 2365 to feel like a massive money making scam, as they gate keep access to the industry the course structure and schedule has been condensed so much to maximise profits from delivering the course you pretty much get processed like livestock in the shortest time possible. Actually learning something doesnt seem to matter, your handed mock exams with all the answers to question you get in your actual exams and shown a bunch of brief power point slides relating to answer to question in the current question pool. Understanding the subject didn't seem to matter. Since the cps lock down and requirements of a level 3 diploma & nvq to take an AM2 the whole training industry has turn into a money making ripoff zone. What Actually option do you have other than a c&g couse stripped back to half the amount of time it would realistically take to deliver the content, government funding for the course now has made the snatch and grab attitude of training schools even worse... I've not even worked in the industry and im already done with it.
Thanks for the detailed comment 👍🏻
How about a gas engineer wanting to take on electrical work eicrs sockets lighting etc would domestic installer course not be sufficient?
Ask the NICEIC and or Napit what qualifications they required to register and work backwards 👍🏻
@@GSHElectrical napit said dei and 18th edition level3 inspection + testing
I am 62 years old ,know a bit of science .could I become an Electrician ?
Yes you can