Glossy VS Matte OLED - What You Need to Know (Asus XG27AQDMG)
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- We finally got a true glossy WOLED in a monitor size that won't cost you a ton of Dough. Plus we've got a new MLA+ panel, and some VRR Flicker Correction. Let's deep dive into the coating comparison with the Asus XG27AQDMG to see if glossy woled really is the hype that everyone's made it out to be.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - 03:48 - Glossy V Matte WOLED
03:49 - 04:53 - Glossy WOLED V QD-OLED
04:54 - 05:49 - Subpixel Layout & Text Clarity
05:50 - 07:03 - VRR Flicker
07:04 - 08:18 - Brightness, Color, Blur
08:19 - 09:37 - HDR Comparisons
09:38 - 11:17 - Bottom Line
#glossy #oled #gamingmonitor - Věda a technologie
**IMPORTANT NOTE - at 04:08 there is an issue with the labels on the monitors. Left monitor is the QD-OLED. Sorry for the confusion.
Glossy is great!- I am just finally happy the sizes have come down - No longer have to worry about trying to fit a 42 inch TV on my desk.
Exactly. As someone having a 24" 1440p 165hz TN monitor, these look a lot more appealing now. The only thing I'm worried about is the subpixel layout and mediocre HDR experience (very few are close to true 1000 nits). If they nail those as well I'm sold.
Brian and his continued talent never fails to amaze me.
This was super informative because I was literally on my way to buy this monitor and.... I still did!
Thanks for all you do. Brian. Definitely help a lot of this with our purchasing.
Great video, thanks for going into good detail with the coating comparison!
One of the best reviews of this monitor, thx very much ;)
Gorilla Glass PG27AQDP 480hz next please.
Also, it's not about bitching about matte coatings, who have their use. It's about setting trends and showing the manufacturers that there's a market for glossy versions.
And I feel way better about pulling the plug on this earlier today. I watched Monitors Unboxed and Techtesters videos on it but seeing your take helps even more. If you and Tim say it's good, then it's gonna be good.
And by pulling the plug I meant pulling the trigger of course. Can you tell I watched this right before bed? But when Brian puts out a video it doesn't matter how tired you are, you watch! 😂
Good luck with the warranty!
@shrap8 if you do an rma through the place you order it from (it's on newegg) then it will be a whole lot easier. Unless an asus product is exclusively on their own website then you shouldn't have a problem (like 99% of the time lol
@shrap8
Asus warranty always been great with me.
Great review. Thanks
Another reviewer said the coating is semi glossy. Which I think is a good inbetween from matte and glossy. Great video btw pointing out the differences between matte and glossy. One of the first to properly do this.
Great review, QD-OLED here but I’d love to get my hands on a glossy gaming panel. 😋
Thanks for bringing light to this - I’ve long preferred a glossy screen even prior to oled even being a thing - you could always tell a clearer sharper image - it never made sense to me why it was never an option - which is a big reason I opted for the lg c2 42” as a monitor - and has been awesome! Really hope we see more glossy options for folks who like em!
Nice vid mate
I've always preferred a glossy monitor. I had a Dell XPS 15 laptop that had glass and it was the best. The caveat about ambient light is definitely true, but its very rare to be in a situation where you can't find somewhere or some angle to minimize it, even on a laptop.
Great video. I'm excited about all these competing OLEDs coming out.
Just upgraded my LG 32GP83B-B to a Alienware AW3423DWF QOLED and the difference is jaw dropping. Lucky for me all my lighting is off to the sides far enough I get zero glare. Best purchase ever, keeping my eyes on new OLED tech as it comes from now on.
Thank you sir for your link and this video, wouldn't be able to find and buy this monitor.
To those that still doesnt know, Asus VRR flicker mitigation is basically increasing the minimum vrr range ie. from 48-240 to 120-240. VRR flicker is most noticeable if you are using HDR or SDR mode but low brightness.
Surprised he’s not mentioning something so important
What’s shocking about this…is you’re on the road to 400k. COME ON PEOPLE…this is one of the best produced tech pages on the TubeYou…I would have thought this one is on the way to 1 million subs 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Great video. Might be looking for a monitor soon. Btw, what mousepad is that? Love the colors.
Great video, lots of super info. My own experience has been if your in a dark or a well light controlled environment Glossy is the way to go. If the room is brighter or has light directed at the display Matte wins.
What's is the power consumption when compared with IPS Panels?
The first 3 minutes of this video are the glorious vindication the glossy glazers have finally been waiting for. Yeah matte isn't bad, but it gets grating when people say there is *no* difference. At the end of the day we all win when there are more options.
True. I agree that there’s a difference but is it so significant that you should sell/return your matte OLED and go buy a glossy OLED? I don’t think so
@@RimRip No, obviously not. But it’s important for new buyers that consider screen coating as a significant part of their buying decision.
@@RimRip I prefer glossy if you have room with off-set lighting and blackout curtains. It is more vibrant and slightly better image quality. But it minimal to the average user.
@@RimRipeh I'm in that camp. I just don't get the wow factor with a matte screen. To me, OLED is only worth it with a glossy display.
Where can I find those retro wallpapers?
What would you recommend for a 2nd monitor thats 4K oled 120/144? Still waiting for the asus 480 1440 oled at the end of the year
bro wtf i got so hyped when i saw the thumbnail and thought it was the 480hz
Ordered this monitor the other day, super excited for my first OLED experience coming from an old 1080p 144hz TN monitor :)
What you think about it so far?
@theripper121 haven't recieved it yet because it's on backorder in my country but I should have it soon, I'll reply when I've tried it :)
@@Ellalaa0 so
I love my Alienware AW3423DWF ultrawide QD-OLED with the Glossy screen. I've only had it a couple months but I am not going back.
Glossy woled for the win! I knew it was gonna be hard to beat my lg c1
Now if only we could get a OLED 4K 27” 240hz/360hz native glossy monitor 🤤
Glad I clicked on this video after a search. Do you think the lower resolution of this Asus monitor (1440 vs Alienware 2560) makes a big difference?
Hey bud. For a monitor setup for gaming/youtube/streaming what would you recommend? Two monitors tends to be the advice for that use case but with oled being so good for games but not as a second monitor, and potentially having an awful looking setup with mismatched monitors, i cannot make a decision
Oh my god I LOVE reflections!
Would you pick this monitor or the LG 27GS95QQE?
Great review, it covers some aspect you'll see barely mentioned anywhere else nicely.
Though it's not clear to me why would you test for color accuracy in a picture mode that's clearly not aimed at that instead of the sRGB emulation picture mode. I really wish we could see measurements resilts for that.
You doing a g6 OLED review?? I just got it and wanna see what you change the settings too lol
It would be cool to see the same difference up close in a real game between WOLED matte\glossy, QD-Oled and IPS. At the same diagonal and resolution, of course.
Hi, how are you? I have a problem if you could guide me. First, I don't know if the nvidia app beta is the best for this monitor or do I use nvidia expirience? Second, is it advisable to use Windows HDR calibration? I used it and it worked very well with shadow of the tomb raider in hdr, but when playing tomb raider (2013) in sdr it looked horrible, very yellow, especially the skin, this could be the fault of the nvidia app beta or the configuration of windows 11 hdr? I use nvidia app beta or nvidia experience, and do I configure HDR with Windows 11 or not? thank you so much!
Neat. But ASUS as a brand is a deal breaker until they get their house in order.
I don't really pay attention to Asus what's up with them now?
@@alexha8061 they are scamming customers out of warranty repairs and asking for ridiculous amounts of money to fix cosmetic damage that can only be seen under a microscope instead of fixing the issue it was actually sent in for.
@@alexha8061watch the last 2 videos by gamers nexus.
Tldr they are scamming people through their warranty services.
@@alexha8061just their normal scamming customers and fabricating RMA’s to get more money
@@alexha8061their warranty is effectively non existent. Pretend there is no warranty before you buy it.
Love my alienware dwf. But this monitor for $750 is a good deal. 240hz 1440p on 27 inches is a steal.
Do you think ASUS not showing the PG27AQDP at computex when they initially targeted Q4 2024 means they are doing revisions on the screen? Because at CES it was Matte, but they not showing what will be the highest FPS 1440p screen at computex and instead showing this one seems weird.
I think the reason gloss tends to look better is that matte has a bit of diffusion over it and it's something I've kind of noticed over the years but displays are different so it's hard to tell if was the gloss or display but basically just confirms that
I want to buy an OLED monitor if I turn on my light on the ceiling I'm gonna get reflections? How you guys use that type of monitor if it's night outside? I don't like to play or work in a dark room.
After watching this review I pulled the trigger and bought it. Overall I'm happy but I would call it semi-glossy, it still beats matt though.
Hey badseed
What will you recommend for budget friendly dac/amp with xlr for mic and maybe speakers😅
is there any protection features to prevent burn in?
6:56 Hey love ur vids, quick suggestion tho watch the LTT vid on the ROG Zephyrus G14 because they do explain flicker and how it was essentially solved by increasing the PWM. Phones do this as well, but it's an elegant solution as it's also a form of eye care.
thanks! will do!
@@badseedtech this is why i love your content dude, you never turn away an opportunity to learn about something :)
Glossy is so much better than matte
when is 480hz coming out?
Hopefully they hop on the bangwagon for the glossy screens with laptop screens as well. I swear Macbooks have the best screens because of their choice to use glossy screens instead of matte screens, yet laptop companies have yet to catch on.
Lenovo and the XPS line had glossy options for years now, and most OLED laptops (so most new high end ones) have glossy as well.
They have already cought up to Apple, although it took some time. And I totally agree, a glossy laptop screen feels so high end compared to Matte, I've had Dell XPSs with both.
bandwagon not bangwagon lol
Nice Video. Still feels very weird that LG is not offering a glossy option on their monitors when for a lot of people, a smaller monitor version of their 42 C Series would be the perfect endgame monitor.
Thanks! Yeah it really is. That’s something Ive heard so many times. I dont mind editing on a 48” / 42” but its too much for gaming.
im about to make the jump to oled monitor this year ive been gaming on cheap 4k 60 monitor for so long its time to treat my eyes
Oled 4k 27" next year hopefully
Matt 4K vs Glossy 1440P in terms if sharpness?
I recall a 1440p with a glossy panel looking as sharp as a 4K matte one even though the pixel density is different.
Would love to see a video comparison like this one for that :-)
I'm probably missing something about refresh rate: higher is better no questions but you also need a graphic card capables to manage it, isn't it?
Great comparison between the different coatings. It's a shame this monitor doesn't have HDMI 2.1 like the 27GS95QE-B.
Just curious, why do you need HDMI 2.1 on a 1440p monitor?
@@badseedtech You can get 240Hz without DSC. It's not that big of a deal for me personally, however i know people who hates DSC and says it makes a big difference to run without any compression.
@@SWEJmeisterit does, color banding is obvious with dsc. not sure how others dont see it!!
I just got the LG 27GS95QE a week ago and it’s still within return range. The flicker in dark areas is really bothering me… would you say this monitor would be a better choice?
Sounds like VRR flicker which you won't be able to fully get away from. For me im use to it i know its going to flicker here and there
For me if i can't control the light in a room and im getting reflections off the screen (matte or glossy) im not paying for oled.
thats great. now lets have a brand name MiniLED under $500
Perfect review, glad that you mentionned how Spectrum do their glossy on OLEDs as well, the display channel guy doesn't mention it at all, he's clueless.
Clueless and childish. And does scummy BUY NOW affiliate links
Clueless, yes. Annoying, yes. But I’d like to think that all his whining about glossy screens and turning people over to his side finally got us glossy coatings in the market.
I have the Spectrum 27 4k matte. I dont mind the monitor for the pannel but I HATE the os/ui as well as how long it takes to go from 60hz to 120hz. And there is no way to turn off the auto-off feature. Glossy 4k oled is my next display but currently I wouldn't ever tell anyone to get the monitor. AND to top all this off I got it used in like new condition for half price with the stand. So you know... Also there's a issue that makes HDR not work well and have flickering issues with the PS5 - which they directly advertise as a reason to buy and as a primary use with 144hz.
Wait, there coming out with a 480Hz 1440P monitor? (EDIT:) DisplayPort 1.4 only goes up to 355Hz at 1440P. I learned this when I got the ASUS 360Hz IPS monitor and whenever the FPS reached the 360Hz the monitor would go black for a second. I noticed it was a hand shaking issue between my GPU and monitor. Like switch inputs on a TV. Finaly, I did some digging and came across a wiki page explain the DP standard and DP 1.4 can only do 355Hz but DP 2.0 can go much higher. Until they make GPU (on the Nvidia side) DP 2.0 and the monitor DP 2.0 then 480Hz isn't going to work right.
You’re correct about DP1.4. The monitor will likely use HDMI 2.1.
@@badseedtech Damnit you made jump down a rabbit hole lol but here is what I found on the Wiki page. But, it doesn't come close to the 480Hz at 8 bit and that only gets ya 379Hz with HDMI 2.1b and 10 bit is 315Hz. HDMI is much slower than DP by a lot. Just look up HDMI standards and go to the wiki page and do the same for DisplayPort. Basically HDMII 2.0 will not even come close to the 480Hz. To get the full 480Hz on HDMI you would have to drop it down to 1080P. DP 2.0 at 1440P will get you 516Hz at 10 bit and 609Hz at 8 bit. If you go to the Wiki page, scroll down till you see the chart showing the resolution and Hz and above that in the text will tell you the standards of 1.4 and 2.0 and so on.
You’re not wrong, but you’re not factoring in DSC. HDMI 2.1 with DSC (2x ratio) will deliver 1440p 10bit at 480hz. DP1.4 with DSC (2.5x ratio) can deliver 1440p 8bit at 480hz.
I was scared before I clicked, as I recently got a 360hz QD-OLED (glossy). Thought it would be a 480hz QD-OLED (glossy). Happy to see it's not that and I don't regret my purchase at all !
That being said : great review as always :) ! Been following you for around 5 years and I still love your reviews just as much (often watching them while I work and it makes my day !)
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the kind words.
Hey BadSeed...I need your help. I want to get into IEMs which I'm having trouble deciding on. But when I do I'm still going to need a decent DAC...and it needs to have mic input. The Schiit HEL plus seems to be the product but it's already 4 years old. Is there anything about to come out I should be waiting for? At the moment I have a working plan which is to get the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites, pair them with the Antlion Kimura mic, then plug it all into the Schiit Hel Plus. Mind you this is for gaming. What do you think?
Don't get the orchestra lites. They sound good but it's a pita to get a good fit because they are unvented. So oftentimes you will get that plugged feeling like you're driving up and down a steep mountain.
@@vookie91 What if I were to go the extra mile and get the custom ear molded version?
@SilverJoystix I want to achieve a superior audio experience with PC gaming. I'm not going to be satisfied with wasting money on an "entry level" pair of IEMs either. I keep reading and seeing over and over again how the Orchestra Lites have a superior sound profile with it comes to gaming so I've narrowed my focus on those....despite my concerns over their questionable comfort which I'm already aware. But I don't see anything else that approaches it's level of performance at the same price point. Although, the Intuaura Splendor 2 might be an alternative. Still, my eyes are on the Orchestra Lites.
What game were using to compare the glossy and matte?
That’s Dying Light 2 - Great game
I can't deal with reflections and and get eye strain with longer usage with moderate brightness (and glare) and glossy screens, sadly. So matte is default for me.
Looks like a great monitor though.
Hard to pick between this or aw2725df with their current sale
I mean the dell one is literally double of the price
@@lolkenneth12 I ended up buying the dell for $660
Not really. Clear the Asus. No pink panel and no fan
I guess if I ever need to buy another monitor in the future, might as well upgrade to OLED.
i hate that the 1440p 480hz is clearly going to be matte with the trash old stand 😢
Ikr. I want a 1440p 480hz glossy oled monitor so bad. Or better yet a 4k 240 and 1440p 480hz oled monitor that can toggle between the 2 like the 4k 240 and 1080p 480 monitor.
yes woled no problem but qd oled problem with light
Does this monitor have the down facing red light at the bottom like last year's version? Just curious.
Nope. Stand is totally different.
@@badseedtech Thanks! Seems like a great monitor for that introductory price.
I want the 8k model
I prefer cutie Oled
2:35 tells the story wow so much sharper glossy is
Great comparison but one thing got me confused. @4:08 you say WOLED stays black but in the video it seems that QD-is the one staying black and WOLED looks more purple in my screen at least.
Oh man, good catch! The labels are incorrect in the first image. Its definitely a qd-oled on the left side in the first graphic.
@@badseedtech Cheers for the reply! It all makes sense now.
Is the hdmi 2.0 is enough to transfer the 1440p 240hz vrr plus HDR with 10 bit? I’m a bit lost with this details but very close to order this monitor.
No, its not. You'd want to use Displayport 1.4 if going to the PC and you'd be using DSC. The HDMI ports are primarily for console use on this monitor and can max out the console capability at 1440p (including VRR and HDR)
@@badseedtech ohh that is not a good news. I heard dsc can be very visible. Not sure if it’s true or not. Also looking at the Msi qd oled 360hz but that has a very bad input lag on 240hz and lower
@@k1cs1m3a8nah man, it’s the exact opposite, you will hear most people say that dsc is visually lossless and extremely hard to tell the difference. It does suck that they didn’t use hdmi 2.1, but for console use it wasn’t necessary.
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4:54 it looks like they put a glossy finish on top of a matte one, but maybe its just the camera
Basically asus had so many of these panels left over and not selling they decided to try something
Shame if it has any issues you have to deal with Asus support. Otherwise looks great
All anti-flicker option does is limiting VRR range. from 120-240 to 200-240hz, which makes VRR pretty much unusable, so yeah...
I enjoy paying for features that don't work.
Basically the OLED monitor customer base as a whole right now.
@@DrakonR Yeah, better buy the LG 42C3 oled tv, it has more value than any monitor right now, and all the features actually work.
@@inceptionsd 100%. I'm taking back my PG32UCDM today. What a massive disappointment and shame on these reviewers for talking it up when it has serious issues.
Nice specs n all but what if u had to RMA the monitor
have both glossy and matte and can say matte is just better in regular room setting glossy literally reflects the most minor things like keyboard rgb etc unless you want to sit in perfectly dark room.
I really don't get the hate the matte LG gets. I have it side by side with my old Eizo and the latter is way more matte.
These bots are crazy...
Seems like a fantastic screen but F Asus especially with everything GN has brought to light
Glossy meeh. Forget using it as a computer monitor at day near windows. But the biggest issue is the dirty gray issues woled monitors have. Forget about using windows dark mode as all the darker shades will show artefacts.
Thank you, finally a real reviewer comparing real things !! Not colors srgb delta absolute gama range and so on😭😭
Yeah i was right.. guess glossy was right one at 1:30 .. GLossy is just based better
Now UW please
Dude ended the glossy vs matte debate in 5 minutes. He did what redditors have been trying to do for 3 years.
F... yeah glossy! Now please this in 40" 5120x2160 with 240 Hz!
Dang!
I really wish reviewers would stop mentioning Dough, I've had nothing but bad experiences (as well as many others) trying to get my money back from that scammy company.
Same, been requesting my $100 deposit for over two years and haven’t heard anything
Shame on BadSeed
It’s great that he mentioned that (even aside from the scaminess) their ‘glossy’ monitor isn’t even glossy. It’s a matte panel with some weird glossy retrofit top layer.
Whole lot of tech journalists/youtubers etc leaving this out
Did you completely gloss over the fact that he’s criticizing them?
@@ThatGuyPal88 well played sir, well played
I never understand the pricing of 1440 oled screen. Its 700 dollars, if one can afford that price, one most likely have a beastly set up that can run 4k. And most would prefer going 4k ips rather than 1440 oled. I know one could see value for them, like HDR and low latency, but its priced very awkwardly for the majority.
I honestly believe that this is a great monitor. No doubt. But with the recent controversy around ASUS and their RMA practices, I stay away from them. At least until they really made some notable changes.
Agreed.
Actually its probably better now that they are on the radar so I wouldn't worry now.
What happened please, can someone explain ? ( about ASUS and RMA practices )
@@AD-sg9trwhen you buy an Asus product, just assume you don't have a warranty. If warranty is important to you, do not buy Asus.
@@AD-sg9tr Normally, I'm not that person but search for "Gamers Nexus ASUS" here on CZcams and you'll find some recent videos about it. Its just to much to explain it
But i already have the AQDM
the main focus should be that this AINT REAL glossy coating like for example alienware aw2721df ips which is true glossy, its like they applied glossy finish on top of matte coating. THATS whats up
Lol what are you even talking about, do you have anything to back up your claim? Cause this is a true glossy panel supplied directly from LG…doesn’t get any more glossy than that bud. You seriously are comparing a glossy IPS screen to an oled? I had that exact monitor before and it gets destroyed by the oled in everything from colors to response times. Sounds like you are just hating on oled for no reason other than to help you sleep at night.
@@EndoV2 this aint no real glossy dude, have u seen it ? i ve seen it 1st hand in my buddies home and we both 100% agree it has that semi grainyness and haziness that ONLY semi matte coating monitors got. I aint hating nor comparin nothin more than the screen coatin dude. You sound offended by the FACT that it aint 100% glossy and feel the need to defend every other area of said monitor?
@@kostistsiutras4373 I was not offended, I asked you for any facts to back up your claim and you didn’t provide any. You simply are going off of what you saw in person at your friends house? Lol that doesn’t count man. And so you know, I had the aw2721d before and now I have this oled monitor. In addition, I have an LG C1 oled and I am telling you, both are glossy panels. If you watch more review vids, you will hear the reviewers state this panel is directly from LG themselves, not like Dough who uses a fake gorilla screen. This monitor is a true glossy panel, wether you think it’s semi-glossy or not is just your opinion. Don’t believe me? Google “xg27aqdmg Lg panel” and you will see review websites such as pcmonitors, TFTcentral and PCworld state that this uses a new third-gen w/MLA, WOLED panel directly from LG Display. So I trust those review websites more than your personal opinion from briefly looking at your friends display lol.
@@kostistsiutras4373guess you no longer have a reply after I provided reliable sources indicating it is a true glossy panel directly from LG Display…lol. So we both now know your “fact” claim in your initial post was invalid and no proof was provided. GG
@@EndoV2 what "Realiable" sources? wtf u talkin about bro WE RE TALKIN ABOUT SCREEN COATING NOT PANEL
Why didn't those MF released the full 4K 27" glossy OLED monitor by now?
Dam I’m stuck between this and Alien in less they soon bring a Glossy 360hz 🙃 don’t k ow if I can wait
All I do is Play COD though 🤷🏾♂️
Go for the 360hz
@@badseedtech 😁
FINALLY I DONT NEED TO LOOK AT SAND IN FIGMA AND CAN GAME + WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not true Glossy. It doesn’t reflect enough ambient light /s