Julian, just watched your presentation - excellently explained with photos that beautifully portrayed the very flat and largely featureless former battlefield. Thanks for showing the new Lone Tree and talking briefly about 1st Division and 10th Gloucesters a battalion in which my Great Uncle served with and was killed near Lone Tree. First Division initially penetrated the German second defensive line at Hulluch but as you so aptly illustrated there was virtually no artillery support and the reserves were not at hand. In fact the British artillery shelled their own troops in and around Hulluch. So this was another spot on the Loos battlefield where there was nearly a break through.
My great grandfather was in 21st div 64 brigade 14 DLI…. Survived, he ended up in Lincolnshire reg somehow and was gassed 19/12/1915. He was later discharged class W on 27/07/1916 wish I could find out more about him, strangely he has 2 service numbers
Question for the Association. I'm finishing the chapter on the July 1, 1916, the first day of the Somme Offensive, in John Keagan's "Face of War." Keagan list a number of reason why the casualties were so awful that day for the British, yet the French managed to make their objectives on the same front. My question is, did the French know the details of the British plans for the assault? And if so, why didn't they warn their ally that it was going to be a disaster if they went ahead with it anyway?
Thank you for the video Julian. Sadly, like you I had a family member killed at Loos. I only recently learned this which is what brought me here. My Great Great Uncle Private Robert Pickles, service ID#18735 serving with the 12 battalion Highland Light infantry was killed on Sept. 25th 1915. If you could point me in the direction of any after action reports or sources regarding the 12 battalion I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to learn more about the circumstances surrounding him and the 12th battalion that day. Thanks again for the video, I thought I new a lot about WW1 and I had never heard of this battle.
To save folks from looking it up (like I had to) . . . a crassier is a slag heap. That rather explains why the shape has changed over the last century.
Very interesting and informative, Loos and its battle of 1915 - 16 is significant to our family, the British War Cemetery at Dud Corner commemorates 3489 L/Cpl W:E:J: Hood,4th Batt Suffolk Regt. Uncle Walter (my Mothers Brother) arrived mid 1915 so will have been involved in the fighting and survived up to May 1916, Researching his death I was fortunate to be given access to some Suffolk Regt war documents, the following report states on the night of 14th May a Officer with a L/Cpl and Private were detailed to cross the wire in an attempt to secure a prisoner for questioning. Approaching the enemy lines they received relentless fire, bombs were thrown which resulted in the three men being killed. They have No Known Grave. Throughout further research I was able to discover the name of the other soldier, 2313 Pte C. Amos. It is gratifying to know that both Walter and Cyril Amos are named on the Dud Corner commemoration, unfortunately I have not discovered details of the Officer engaged in this valiant attempt. At the time of Walters death his age age was 17.
Excellent talk, however, at @45:10 you say the 8th & 9th Black Watch pushed through Loos. This is wrong as the 8th was part of 9th (Scottish) Div. and successfully attacked and captured the Hohenzollern Redoubt along with it's fellow battalions of the 26th Infantry Brigade. I know this as my Great Uncle served with the 8th and was killed on the 25th during that attack. Perhaps you meant the 8th Seaforth Highlanders? Also, the 15th Div. actually made it to the far side of Hill 70 on the 25th before being beaten back. They held on to the near side of Hill 70 until the 26th but the positions were lost over the next day or two.
Always great to watch the webinars. Keep up the good work.
Outstanding pesentation
Julian, just watched your presentation - excellently explained with photos that beautifully portrayed the very flat and largely featureless former battlefield.
Thanks for showing the new Lone Tree and talking briefly about 1st Division and 10th Gloucesters a battalion in which my Great Uncle served with and was killed near Lone Tree. First Division initially penetrated the German second defensive line at Hulluch but as you so aptly illustrated there was virtually no artillery support and the reserves were not at hand. In fact the British artillery shelled their own troops in and around Hulluch. So this was another spot on the Loos battlefield where there was nearly a break through.
My great grandfather was in 21st div 64 brigade 14 DLI…. Survived, he ended up in Lincolnshire reg somehow and was gassed 19/12/1915. He was later discharged class W on 27/07/1916 wish I could find out more about him, strangely he has 2 service numbers
Question for the Association. I'm finishing the chapter on the July 1, 1916, the first day of the Somme Offensive, in John Keagan's "Face of War." Keagan list a number of reason why the casualties were so awful that day for the British, yet the French managed to make their objectives on the same front.
My question is, did the French know the details of the British plans for the assault? And if so, why didn't they warn their ally that it was going to be a disaster if they went ahead with it anyway?
Thank you for the video Julian. Sadly, like you I had a family member killed at Loos. I only recently learned this which is what brought me here. My Great Great Uncle Private Robert Pickles, service ID#18735 serving with the 12 battalion Highland Light infantry was killed on Sept. 25th 1915. If you could point me in the direction of any after action reports or sources regarding the 12 battalion I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to learn more about the circumstances surrounding him and the 12th battalion that day. Thanks again for the video, I thought I new a lot about WW1 and I had never heard of this battle.
To save folks from looking it up (like I had to) . . . a crassier is a slag heap. That rather explains why the shape has changed over the last century.
"It's the classiest slag heap. All my slag heaps are classy." -- DJT(?)
Very interesting and informative, Loos and its battle of 1915 - 16 is significant to our family, the British War Cemetery at Dud Corner commemorates 3489 L/Cpl W:E:J: Hood,4th Batt Suffolk Regt. Uncle Walter (my Mothers Brother) arrived mid 1915 so will have been involved in the fighting and survived up to May 1916, Researching his death I was fortunate to be given access to some Suffolk Regt war documents, the following report states on the night of 14th May a Officer with a L/Cpl and Private were detailed to cross the wire in an attempt to secure a prisoner for questioning. Approaching the enemy lines they received relentless fire, bombs were thrown which resulted in the three men being killed. They have No Known Grave. Throughout further research I was able to discover the name of the other soldier, 2313 Pte C. Amos. It is gratifying to know that both Walter and Cyril Amos are named on the Dud Corner commemoration, unfortunately I have not discovered details of the Officer engaged in this valiant attempt. At the time of Walters death his age age was 17.
brilliant use of maps, really brings things to life!
my great uncle john cyphus died this day at the battle of loos 1/10 /1915
Excellent talk, however, at @45:10 you say the 8th & 9th Black Watch pushed through Loos.
This is wrong as the 8th was part of 9th (Scottish) Div. and successfully attacked and captured the Hohenzollern Redoubt along with it's fellow battalions of the 26th Infantry Brigade. I know this as my Great Uncle served with the 8th and was killed on the 25th during that attack. Perhaps you meant the 8th Seaforth Highlanders?
Also, the 15th Div. actually made it to the far side of Hill 70 on the 25th before being beaten back. They held on to the near side of Hill 70 until the 26th but the positions were lost over the next day or two.
You're only a "subordinate partner" if you allow yourself to be one.
The French needed Britain's help, not the other way around.
16:40 How'd the learning curve on the vaccine go??? Not verrry well.....