Aliansa Dodson Turbine DC-3 engine start up HK-5016 at Villavicencio-Vanquardia airport Colombia April 2015 I created this video with the CZcams Video Editor ( / editor )
When you were a kid and you wanted to draw an airplane, this is what you drew. The simplest idea, a fuselage, two wings sticking straight out and a tail which was a junior version of the wings and a rudder. There were probably millions of kids in the '50s and early '60s for whom THIS was what an airplane was. Some drew propellers (an elongated figure 8) on the wings, some with the prop on the nose, but this was the basic idea. This plane was the SUV of the thirties and forties, and even into the fifties. Nice to see it making a come back. A good truck is always a good truck.
I actually like using the standard PT-6 exhaust system over something like the Basler Conversion, it's universal among all fixed wing aircraft that are equipped with PT-6 turbine engines. It's less complicated and probably less costly to produce and maintain, also lessens the complexity of the cowling quite a bit.
II like this set up compared to the bt67 aka Basler I wrenched for a couple years on the the basler and the over the top exhaust was a pain in the ass but it was designed for a reason , You can't hear the basler coming when its at 5000 feet and heat sinking missiles wouldn't get a signature so it was made for military originally very handy when flying over the jungles in Colombia with a electric machine gun designed to take out drug labs they still use this machine today It is Called Fantasma the Ghost. This aircraft just doesn't have the range that the BT67 has and its MTOW is 3000 less then the basler But the simplicity in its design is superior They actually built fuel tanks forward of the Nacelles and the fuel system is standard DC3 with aux pumps to feed the Nacellels the Bt67 is a completely new system with auto transfer that breaks down a lot but is redundant the pumps are in the tanks and it is a 24 hr job to change a pump. The Dodson is a 2 hr job pumps are external. I did a pump change in a hanger and it took 24 hrs because the sealant had to dry , imagine changing a boost pump on a BT in Antarctica it has been done many times Great aircraft but has issues being certified in Canada The Basler is Fully Certified
its a Basler BT-67 a turboprop conversion of the DC-3 and the C-47 as this plane is a C-47 as it has the cargo doors on the side of the fuselage rather than a small door on the standard DC-3 in airliner form.
Yep. "HK-5016, came off the Oklahoma production line as a C-47A-DK in 1944 for delivery to the French Air Force. After spending 28 years of its lifetime in France this DC-3 was sold to Yugoslavia in 1972 as YU-ABV."
It's a Dodson International Turbo Dakota DC-3 PT6A-65AR, which is a different PT6-conversion originally for the South African Air Force, around 50 were made. web.archive.org/web/20130414011936/www.av8rdan.com:80/2013/04/how-to-make-really-great-airplane.html?spref=fb www.douglasdc3.com/dc3ctp/dc3ctp.htm
@@SuperScratch1 I'm a purist too but I mean in a perfect world where You could swap em for a day. A Conny with turbo props, what a beast and the speed not to mention the streamed lines. This Gal is a Queen of the sky's. And nothing sounds like a radial !!!!!!!!
To retrofit these state of the art engines to such an iconic aircraft is masterful. I can’t wait to see them retrofitted with jet engines next! Well, maybe not jet engines.
Probably easier on the airframe than were the radial engines - vibration wise. The extra power would be handy but the aerodynamics would still limit max speed.
The Basler BT-67 turboprop conversion DC-3 has a max speed of around 285 kts (328 mph). That's 98 mph faster than the original DC-3. I'd imagine that the performance of this Aliansa Dodson conversion is roughly similar to the Basler BT-67.
Awesome Plane, Love the DC3, in 67, I got a hop out of soul Korea heading to Vietnam, I was loaded, so was the air craft straw chickens kids on the floor, momma-son & papa-sons., sheep , only two seats I had one,. must of been 15 people on board, No idea how we got there alive. Rock & roll up & down all the way. it was a night flight to thePhilippines. Hooked up with an officer flight the rest of the way. as for the mud hole remark, It looks to me like a working airlines making it happen, more than I can say about this place when it comes to booking connections.
yoquiero que alguien médiga si los aviones dc.3 con turbina ACI fueron fabricado o fueron adaptado porque nunca había vito uno con turbina pensaba que todos eran de motores
The Basler BT-67 is a utility aircraft produced by Basler Turbo Conversions of Oshkosh, Wisconsin. It is a remanufactured and modified Douglas DC-3; the modifications designed to significantly extend the DC-3's serviceable lifetime. The conversion includes fitting the airframe with new Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67R turboprop engines, lengthening the fuselage, strengthening the airframe, upgrading the avionics, and making modifications to the wings' leading edges and wing tips.
@Al Avendano…..The main advantage of turbine power is not speed……it is reduced take off roll, better climb rate, reduced weight, more readily available fuel in remote areas and of course, much better reliability.
No conozco mucho de aviones... pero me da la impresión que esos motores no son originales del Avion Douglas D-C3. Más bien parece que le ingertaron motores de avion Sky Truck. Pero bien vale la pena conservar esos magníficos aviones de mas de 80 años👍👮✈
Quisiera saber esto: los DC_3 fueron modificados y cambiados los motores de pistón por estos de turbina?...espero que alguien en español me conteste...
se ve bien que fue construido por BASLER,alas mas grandes y la cabina extendida hacia delante por mas de 4 pies,por ese precio 8+ millones me compro 3 cesnas o 2 ATR
A jesus puello le digo que estos aviones viejos se efectua proceso cambio de motores a piston por motorpro pt6 alargan el fuselaje y teforzan estructuralmente el avion y cambia totalmente la cabina del avion por nuevas pantallas
you can fit jets to a plane without having cabin pressure. one of the reasons planes from this era last so long if because they don't have to be stretched every flight. modern passenger jets only get 20 years in service carrying passengers before there converted to air cargo planes. from there they fly it untill corrosion starts to set in then scrap the plane.
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The DC-3 in this video is not a Basler conversion; Basler converted DC-3's have the exhaust pipes on top of the engine nacelles (which are changed to carbon fiber) which helps keep a low infrared signature. Also, the wingtips are that of a stock DC whilst Basler's are squared off at an angle.
This is the Schaefer AMI STC Dodson bought the kits from the SAAF. It has a composite cowling with a fuel tank behind the engine and uses PT6-65AR engines rated at 1430 hp at104% the aircraft is certified at 26900 lbs at 1250 hp, empty weight is usually around 16000 lbs. The 5 blade Hartzell is also different to the BT67
Much, much better than those old, outdated radial engines. By just looking and listening at the propeller sound you can see that there is more power output with low torque, which is perfect for an aircraft powerplant.
Well, to start with there are few aero mechanics out there who can service and repair those old radials. Spare parts are also not easy to come by, there are companies that stock on some but usually there would be a wait for delivery. Then there is the price to contend with and most parts are re-manufactured. Then there are so many moving parts, from generator to valves and pistons, all requiring mandatory servicing or renewal. The fuel, gasoline/petrol is also more volatile than aviation kerosene. The modern turbo props are much simpler, cheaper and deliver excellent performance.
@Keith Aliver…..Esthetically, I agree with you, but that is of course from the point of view of an observer/enthusiast, not of an operator. Were you trying to make a living with a DC3 airframe you likely would have a different perspective.
To be fair, statistics would show turbo props are more reliable and economical. Much simpler and more powerful too. I love radial engines too, liking them better does not mean that they are better
sergio son aviones modificados porque ya no ay quien tenga refacciones de esos aviones hoy en dia por eso los reforzaron para poner moters de turbohelice
Jamás los han vetado , el problema lo tenían los de motores de pistón más por los seguros que deben tener y su desempeño . Los he utilizado desde hace por lo menos 40 años sin interrupción.
S. Brown you really have no idea of the places these planes fly into/out of, I once saw a CARAVELLE on a dirt strip, in Columbia, OVERLOADED too, darn nearly not get out .
When you were a kid and you wanted to draw an airplane, this is what you drew. The simplest idea, a fuselage, two wings sticking straight out and a tail which was a junior version of the wings and a rudder. There were probably millions of kids in the '50s and early '60s for whom THIS was what an airplane was. Some drew propellers (an elongated figure 8) on the wings, some with the prop on the nose, but this was the basic idea. This plane was the SUV of the thirties and forties, and even into the fifties. Nice to see it making a come back. A good truck is always a good truck.
Many, many jet airliners have come and gone since the last DC-3 rolled of the line almost 70 years ago. Simply amazing.
Its already 82 years ago.!
Outstanding upgrade to an outstanding airframe.
Aeropuerto vanguardia Villavicencio meta Colombia
Volando llano y selva
An iconic and beautiful aircraft.
What a beautiful Bird!
Music to my ears
These sounds coming from a DC-3 confuse me. It is like a dog opening its mouth and a meow coming out.
I turn down the sound on these videos and play radial engine sounds. It's the only way to world pieces
@@HJBounell I will have to do this to reclaim my sanity. The Basler BT-67 is a paradox to me.
A meow but with the power of a lion
Beautiful!
I actually like using the standard PT-6 exhaust system over something like the Basler Conversion, it's universal among all fixed wing aircraft that are equipped with PT-6 turbine engines. It's less complicated and probably less costly to produce and maintain, also lessens the complexity of the cowling quite a bit.
II like this set up compared to the bt67 aka Basler I wrenched for a couple years on the the basler and the over the top exhaust was a pain in the ass but it was designed for a reason , You can't hear the basler coming when its at 5000 feet and heat sinking missiles wouldn't get a signature so it was made for military originally very handy when flying over the jungles in Colombia with a electric machine gun designed to take out drug labs they still use this machine today It is Called Fantasma the Ghost.
This aircraft just doesn't have the range that the BT67 has and its MTOW is 3000 less then the basler
But the simplicity in its design is superior They actually built fuel tanks forward of the Nacelles and the fuel system is standard DC3 with aux pumps to feed the Nacellels the Bt67 is a completely new system with auto transfer that breaks down a lot but is redundant the pumps are in the tanks and it is a 24 hr job to change a pump. The Dodson is a 2 hr job pumps are external. I did a pump change in a hanger and it took 24 hrs because the sealant had to dry , imagine changing a boost pump on a BT in Antarctica it has been done many times Great aircraft but has issues being certified in Canada The Basler is Fully Certified
its a Basler BT-67 a turboprop conversion of the DC-3 and the C-47 as this plane is a C-47 as it has the cargo doors on the side of the fuselage rather than a small door on the standard DC-3 in airliner form.
Yep. "HK-5016, came off the Oklahoma production line as a C-47A-DK in 1944 for delivery to the French Air Force. After spending 28 years of its lifetime in France this DC-3 was sold to Yugoslavia in 1972 as YU-ABV."
Doesn't look like any Basler I have ever seen.
It's a Dodson International Turbo Dakota DC-3 PT6A-65AR, which is a different PT6-conversion originally for the South African Air Force, around 50 were made.
web.archive.org/web/20130414011936/www.av8rdan.com:80/2013/04/how-to-make-really-great-airplane.html?spref=fb
www.douglasdc3.com/dc3ctp/dc3ctp.htm
@@Itapirkanmaa2 The engine nacelles look much better on this version than the Basler units.
quedo full ese dc 3 con esos motores turbohelice
Beautiful. I would really love to see a Constellation fitted with these engines.
@dieselrotor
Oh Dear me no !! Just got to keep the radials !!
@@SuperScratch1 I'm a purist too but I mean in a perfect world where You could swap em for a day. A Conny with turbo props, what a beast and the speed not to mention the streamed lines. This Gal is a Queen of the sky's. And nothing sounds like a radial !!!!!!!!
Esse é o avião mais bom bonito que já projetaram. Turbinado ficou mais bonito e confiável.
It's...Beautiful
To retrofit these state of the art engines to such an iconic aircraft is masterful. I can’t wait to see them retrofitted with jet engines next! Well, maybe not jet engines.
Probably easier on the airframe than were the radial engines - vibration wise.
The extra power would be handy but the aerodynamics would still limit max speed.
The Basler BT-67 turboprop conversion DC-3 has a max speed of around 285 kts (328 mph). That's 98 mph faster than the original DC-3. I'd imagine that the performance of this Aliansa Dodson conversion is roughly similar to the Basler BT-67.
mike klaene more
Piston engines have considerable aerodynamic drag due their cooling requirements. Turbines are self cooling. No fins or radiators.
GENIAL
La Sra. Nubia Alvarez todavia esta al mando de la empresa?
Outstanding
Awesome Plane, Love the DC3, in 67, I got a hop out of soul Korea heading to Vietnam, I was loaded, so was the air craft straw chickens kids on the floor, momma-son & papa-sons., sheep , only two seats I had one,. must of been 15 people on board, No idea how we got there alive. Rock & roll up & down all the way. it was a night flight to thePhilippines. Hooked up with an officer flight the rest of the way. as for the mud hole remark, It looks to me like a working airlines making it happen, more than I can say about this place when it comes to booking connections.
Anything out of Korea was a good flight.
Coisa linda ❤❤❤❤❤
It's look's like a conversion by Dodson International Parts
Creo que los motores turbo el helice le quita ese toque romántico al DC3, parece un híbrido DC3
Si pero le da vida, 50 años mas.
Those -67 Pratt's sure spool up and start slow compared to something like a -27 or -34, but they sure make the ole Doug come alive again.
Monster's Inc. 65AR
which conversion is this?
Son los motores k ekipan a los saab 340 mas livianos y mas acsesible su mantenimiento saludos camaradas
Kingair engines?
Es épico
ese es un balter bt 67. alas modificadas un metro más largo que el original dc 3 o c 47. Y motores turbohelice.
no solo las alas ,la cabina esta extendida tambien,se nota bien claro
As long as it works.
Con esos motores mas potentes podran las alas y estructura aguantar la nueva velocidad,si alguien sabe.
En USA los actualizan ( aviónica) y refuerzan en todo .
trust you checked all the rivets around the turbo prop engines
Its like new model replica... nice! Better than the old radial unreliable engines...
quiero ver un vuelo desdee cabina, como lo hacen los cojonudo Hermanos Colombianos
yoquiero que alguien médiga si los aviones dc.3 con turbina ACI fueron fabricado o fueron adaptado porque nunca había vito uno con turbina pensaba que todos eran de motores
The Basler BT-67 is a utility aircraft produced by Basler Turbo Conversions of Oshkosh, Wisconsin. It is a remanufactured and modified Douglas DC-3; the modifications designed to significantly extend the DC-3's serviceable lifetime. The conversion includes fitting the airframe with new Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67R turboprop engines, lengthening the fuselage, strengthening the airframe, upgrading the avionics, and making modifications to the wings' leading edges and wing tips.
Los turbohelices son actualizaciones que le hacen en usa .
Is it dangerous for an old plane? Because more power more speed.
@Al Avendano…..The main advantage of turbine power is not speed……it is reduced take off roll, better climb rate, reduced weight, more readily available fuel in remote areas and of course, much better reliability.
No conozco mucho de aviones... pero me da la impresión que esos motores no son originales del Avion Douglas D-C3. Más bien parece que le ingertaron motores de avion Sky Truck. Pero bien vale la pena conservar esos magníficos aviones de mas de 80 años👍👮✈
Long life to the DC-3 Skytrain/Dakota
miss the counterweight clanking
Quisiera saber esto: los DC_3 fueron modificados y cambiados los motores de pistón por estos de turbina?...espero que alguien en español me conteste...
Sí, a este se le cambiaron los motores
@@camiller1988 muchas gracias camiller8!...☝️😊
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
se ve bien que fue construido por BASLER,alas mas grandes y la cabina extendida hacia delante por mas de 4 pies,por ese precio 8+ millones me compro 3 cesnas o 2 ATR
I prefer the other engines...the sound is not right
I don't like old engines. They make too much smoke and pollution.
@@TJK152 0 romance.
DC-3 변신!
why did they start the engines with the props feathered?
Hydraulic pressure is required to unfeather the props , hence the engines need to be running first.
BT 67
عالی است
Get that sucker up, Henry.
Bummer ran out of film just before the takeoff...
esse avião caiu hoje
Neat to see a proven aircraft put back into service with modern turboprop engines.
A jesus puello le digo que estos aviones viejos se efectua proceso cambio de motores a piston por motorpro pt6 alargan el fuselaje y teforzan estructuralmente el avion y cambia totalmente la cabina del avion por nuevas pantallas
How come nobody ever tried fitting a DC-3 with a jet engine?
TheBattleMaster100 It would probally destroy the wings.
Correct. Plus, the last time square windows were fitted to a pressurized cabin, alotta people died. Just ask the British. Lol.
EvilBonesMan_666
not compatible, dc-3 are engineered for propeller engine, and the wind shape is for low speed, not high speed. It should be delta shape first
you can fit jets to a plane without having cabin pressure. one of the reasons planes from this era last so long if because they don't have to be stretched every flight. modern passenger jets only get 20 years in service carrying passengers before there converted to air cargo planes. from there they fly it untill corrosion starts to set in then scrap the plane.
Tus no isnt dc3 es basler is cut wing long fuselaje
hello mprophet100, I'm admin of the modelkitindo channel, I ask permission to hanging this video on my channel as a teaser, and I will enclose your channel name on the video and link in description ... thank you
Hi there ... no probleem..is Ok if you use the correct ctedits.
@@mprophet100 Thank You very much
that must be a bt-67, but the nacelles somehow look different.
The DC-3 in this video is not a Basler conversion; Basler converted DC-3's have the exhaust pipes on top of the engine nacelles (which are changed to carbon fiber) which helps keep a low infrared signature. Also, the wingtips are that of a stock DC whilst Basler's are squared off at an angle.
It's a conversion by Dodson International Parts, It's in the descripton.
This is the Schaefer AMI STC Dodson bought the kits from the SAAF. It has a composite cowling with a fuel tank behind the engine and uses PT6-65AR engines rated at 1430 hp at104% the aircraft is certified at 26900 lbs at 1250 hp, empty weight is usually around 16000 lbs. The 5 blade Hartzell is also different to the BT67
Much, much better than those old, outdated radial engines. By just looking and listening at the propeller sound you can see that there is more power output with low torque, which is perfect for an aircraft powerplant.
It goes from 300k to 6 millions $ !!!
8 millions
I prefer the DC-3 with the original radial engines.
Well, to start with there are few aero mechanics out there who can service and repair those old radials. Spare parts are also not easy to come by, there are companies that stock on some but usually there would be a wait for delivery. Then there is the price to contend with and most parts are re-manufactured. Then there are so many moving parts, from generator to valves and pistons, all requiring mandatory servicing or renewal. The fuel, gasoline/petrol is also more volatile than aviation kerosene.
The modern turbo props are much simpler, cheaper and deliver excellent performance.
@Keith Aliver…..Esthetically, I agree with you, but that is of course from the point of view of an observer/enthusiast, not of an operator. Were you trying to make a living with a DC3 airframe you likely would have a different perspective.
No voló.
I don’t like it, the radials are just better in every way in my opinion.
To be fair, statistics would show turbo props are more reliable and economical. Much simpler and more powerful too.
I love radial engines too, liking them better does not mean that they are better
Nice airplane yo fly and learn, first and second world war.
Me alegra saber que la autoridad colombiana levantó el "veto" que existió por muchos años a los DC 3 de turbina
sergio son aviones modificados porque ya no ay quien tenga refacciones de esos aviones hoy en dia por eso los reforzaron para poner moters de turbohelice
Jamás los han vetado , el problema lo tenían los de motores de pistón más por los seguros que deben tener y su desempeño . Los he utilizado desde hace por lo menos 40 años sin interrupción.
Dodson made dc3 is better looking than basler ones.
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That's a copy....
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Aliansa must be a mud hole ...of an airline!
It's a cargo airline.
Got it!
Cargo/passenger airline.
S. Brown seems u don't know a f*king Damm dude, is the only plane capable of flying to those remote places
S. Brown you really have no idea of the places these planes fly into/out of, I once saw a CARAVELLE on a dirt strip, in Columbia, OVERLOADED too, darn nearly not get out .
Probably the worst video I have seen
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