Project 150 episode 5 Framing the Floor
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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2022
- Well like the moron that I am, I deleted this video this morning because I thought it was a draft. So I apologize for the repost.
In this video we frame the floor system. We've been using "Advanced Framing", though I really dislike that description, for many years. This is 24" oc framing. Many think its cheaping out, but they don't understand that it is a more efficient use of materials and increases the thermal resistance of the floor system. It could be cheaping out if it isn't done properly, but that's not our approach.
Joist spacing is determined by loads, spacing of girders or pony walls, spans, vibration, and perception. I would bet if I walked you through our finished homes and then walked you through similar homes in our area, you would be shocked that their 16" oc framing feels "softer".
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I am not a framer, I don’t work in construction, but I spend a lot of time watching these videos.
Framing is amazing
When I was still framing custom homes, I used to be followed up on most jobs by one ornery trim carpenter. Most framers probably recognize this guy because he complains about every little thing. Even when we would go to great lengths to accommodate him, he would still find something to fuss about, from "Why would you start your stud layout there?" to "I need a header at every opening because one flat 2x4 isn't enough for me to nail casing." He's a fast, efficient, and clean trim carpenter, but he's impulsively grumpy and difficult to please. I guess our framing must have been the best of the worst, though, because he asked us to frame his personal home. The point of this story is that one day, while working on his house, we had to use the planer 33:04 (probably on a floor joist, but I don't remember), and when he came to the job and saw shavings on the slab, he nearly had a conniption. He could think of no reason why a framer who uses good lumber and does quality work would own a planer, much less use one. And in his mind, one family-owned local lumberyard can do no wrong, so he was sure that everything they delivered to the job was pure gold. We pointed to our small pile of culls, which we would typically cut into blocks, and also showed him that some lumber sizes, 2x12 in particular, aren't perfectly consistent in thickness or depth. For the rest of the job, if we could eyesight the slightest crown or twist in a stick or if it was even minimally out-of-dimension, he returned every one of them and hand-picked replacements. He and the lumber yard fought every time, but he always came back to the job with a trailer full of straight lumber. Good times! The two of us were and still are good friends, and he's still as ornery as ever.
A good finish carpenter could make it work…
Just saying..
@@michaelgarrow3239 You're not wrong. This guy could make it work, too. He just didn't like to have to put in any extra effort.
@@nobodyimportant002 - Exactly… a lazy finish carpenter. But that’s redundant.
Edit: I have had guys like that. They are never happy about anything. They sometimes come on the job and start telling my guys what to do behind my back.
I don’t have much patience for them anymore.
No kidding there I was looking for this video yesterday, because I was rolling joists today. Building my own house. You are my go to for the info because I'm in Pierce county. Thanks Tim.
Oh one lat thing! My dad is alive still 86 and he just helped me figure and cut out a hole for a huge heavy custom commercial door then hang it! The man is a stud! Your a stud! Kyle is well “a street monster”!
This is one of the best narrating series I have ever watched. And to your point you should write a book. This reminds me of a great TV show. I could watch these all day. Btw the office is one of the greatest shows ever.
The “stabila challenge” is hilarious
33:10 I could literally not stop laughing the whole time you shot that slow mo 😂
Great video. I got here from FramingBeast but I stayed because of the funky Napoleon Dynamite background music.
This looks strangely familiar, I suspect the wrong file got uploaded.....
33:59 😂😂😂😂😂 I fell off my couch laughing
If they’re all lapped over a wall somewhere, did you actually have to cut that 10” piece off?
Yes sir , when im stapling my stucco lath i tend to "pull" with the gun instead of "pushing". Same how your "shuffling backwards". It really is the safest way
Roll that beautiful joist rolling footage
I'm enjoying watching this playlist. I use the nail gun as a hammer, ooops, I mean tapper. I do the same with my screwdriver thingy. Most call it an impact gun. Isn't that flat spot on the back for tapping?
Now that you’ve owned a dually sprinter for a while would you go that route again or would you get singles? Or would you get a ford. I have a pre emission sprinter dually and absolutely love it.
We have two dually Sprinters, love them
Inspector checking in. Thanks for the clean site.
its a rerurn
Can this G tape be placed between a 2x4 and the concrete floor?
Do you mind if I refer viewers to this vid on my next Video of my Mountain Modern Cabin build?
What pencil is that? Would love something that writes on wet/damp wood (esp pressure treated)
I believe it’s a normal contractors pencil with either a keel/lumber crayon taped on or they make holder for them as well that sit on the back of the pencil.
What kind of pencil are you using? Marking on that wet wood like nothing!
Whats your measuring tape you use? Is it autolocking?
What was y’all’s longest span with the 2x10 joists in this build?
just out of curiosity , what tool belt are you using?
I great work, hope you don’t mind my questions
Why no plumbing, vapor barrier and stone in the crawl area before the framing?
I thought I addressed that. Vapor barrier goes in after the roof is on to avoid creating a pond.
Common practice here is plumbing after the roof is on.
The "P6" rule = Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance (im sure you are well aware of this lil quip already lol)
I'll like again, if you know you know lol
Framer in Seattle. I have asked my engineer to call out post and beams instead of bearing walls. In my mind it's cheaper to set beams (we make beams from sistered lvl/glulam for long spans) than frame up all these bearing walls.
Labor in Seattle is crazy expensive tho so that might be why it's cheaper in the total to use beams
I specified pony walls on a custom home recently thinking it's got to be cheaper than posts and beams. The GC hated it. Made it hard to move through the crawlspace apparently.
@@mojodojo5533 yeah it's harder to service, more work, more lumber, more room for errors
@@griznatle if you could get a dead level footing so as to not have to cut all wall studs a different heights, you might start saving some time.
@@mojodojo5533 I'd be interested to know the cost difference of labor+materials of a 40' stemwall against a 10' OC 6x6 post with a 6x12 beam
@griznatle also cost difference between pouring concrete wall a couple of feet higher rather than the 2 ft perimeter stepped pony wall. Concrete should be more expensive, but much faster. Poured and done.
Evah heard of Larry Haun? He’s was quite the framer
That guy was a legend. All hammer, no guns.
👋👌👍✅
🤣🤣 the level 👍👍
I’ve watched this video twice because it’s so entertaining. I’m an electrician and don’t frame very often. 0:59 but what does this even mean? “Joist to the long, joist to the short”. What does that mean and why did you do it that way?
It has to do with which side of the layout mark the joist goes on. Long means away from the mark relative to where we hook the tape
@@AwesomeFramers you’re awesome man I love watching your videos!
@@KingHarry1 🙏🙏🙏
I'm confident that you've considered the thickness of your blade, but it strikes me that your you're ending up with 7/16, isn't your blade 1/8 thick?
So G tape is flashing membrane or bitchathane
No vapor barrier incapsulation?
Not at this point. I thought I stated it in the video, but must have been in a different one. The vapor retarder is installed by the insulators after the roof is on, otherwise it becomes a swimming pool down there.
@@AwesomeFramersgood point. Must have missed it.
@@gdot9046 I probably forgot to mention it in this video 😳
Shelf would've been just as easy.
Tim great channel ! Home run! It will catch on very soon! One small dispute! You are not old brother !
My dad framed way into his sixties and I am a finish guy grant it I don’t drag 2x10’s around but I drag tons I mean tons of sheet goods and 3 million pounds of tools all over ! I am 63 ! I help friends pour cement, fell 15’ last year after faulty scaffolding collapsed on me breaking my foot in 6 places! 3 months later back to work!
I don’t hv to work I am ok! But I so enjoy God’s blessing of being outside figuring cool stuff , great tools just enjoy being a one man contractor!
At 44 your wife should still be hiding from you! (A good thing Tim). Did you know men today hv 25% less testosterone than our fathers did? You look as strong as a bull! Plus your careful and take care of yourself! I learned a lot from you (I hv had back & hand surgery).
Keep up giving us great info! Plus I hv to build a lumber storage shed! So roof cutting info is 👍
He accidentally deleted this video so had to upload it again.
Repeat.
If I see you miss one more nail I'm gonna unsubscribe. We're supposed to be professionals. With standards sir. Please do not fail again.
What a clown comment ! 🤡🤣