@@michaelficarro2591 Nice! First deer was definitely interesting. Seconds felt like minutes at full draw and the whole time i was thinking why wont this damn thing go off. I was like my release has betrayed me! Then the shot broke and it was perfect. So far I have 5 with the hinge and really dont have any interest of going back to a thumb. Maybe and index.
I have been exclusively shooting a hinge and including for hunting for 5 years now. It eliminates my target panic and reduces buck fever big time! I keep the hinge set fairly cold to help prevent accidental shots but then again in 5 years I haven’t had one yet.
I did the exact same thing during a practice shoot once, messed up at 3/4 draw sent the release flying into my cable roller wheels, splitting one in half and bending the bracket. Though I feel way more confident with my Stan thumb release now.
Love your vids...I hunt with a hinge and love it...3 turkey and a hog last year...and had to let down 3 times on the hog...I think it is just what u practice with and get used to....
I shoot a UV hinge for 3D and Comp. however in the deer woods I still hunt with my Carter Wise Choice. I want to know exactly when my shot is going to break when at full draw on an animal. That’s just me. My hunting partner kills big bucks with a hinge for last 7 years. It’s up to the Individual
I use 3 different index style releases (HHA, True Fire & True Ball). I would consider trying a thumb or Hinge, but some are so pricey, not sure I want to lay down $$$ foe something I may not like. And as you have previously mentioned, not many shops have demo releases. Until I come across somebody that want to let my try out their release, I'll stick with what I have and focus on executing that surprise shot by hooking the finger and pulling through the arm.
Some of the popular models hold their value. You could buy a used one and sell it for about the same price as you pay for it if you don’t like it’d you try a hinge, I can say the best thing I did was make a little practice bow thing so that there were no real consequences when you mess up. I messed up almost every time when I started, but by the time I tried it with my bow I had it figured out.
As long as there’s an arrow nocked-it won’t damage the bow. That said, unless you can draw back and keep your bow perfectly on target, there’s no telling where your arrow will end up.
I struggled with punching the trigger when I moved to thumb from wrist release. Don't wanted to go back to wrist so I ended up getting the truball sweet spot (built in safety) since it was my first hine and the wrist strap from truball coz I don't wanted to take the chance to have the release slip from my finger. best setup for me so far, it slows me down enough to focus on my execution and I don't have to worry about sending an arrow mid-draw. Love your video and the way you explain things.
The pros are probably more comfortable with a hinge since they shoot thousands of shots in a year. I used a thumb trigger release for a number of years, having it hanging on my loop while in my deer stand. Older age arthritis in my fingers has forced me to go to an index finger wrist style now. Took a bit of getting used too!
FYI, that BLUE bow will stand out like a sore thumb to a deer!!! Deer DO see colors, they just don't see the red spectrum or much of the green spectrum, but Blue is the ONE color that stands out the MOST to them, so I would advise you to NEVER wear blue in the woods. Research has shown this to be fact, our grandparents that taught us deer see in black & white were wrong. Do the research if you don't believe me.
I gotta say, If you want the best of both world check out the GOAT from TruBall. It’s not the most adjustable hinge but it’s smooth. And the thumb button setting is crisp. I like that it IS the same release. So your anchor, d-loop, peep can all be the same.
While I have the utmost respect for you and your content I would tend to disagree on this one: I'd say take whatever release you feel most comfortable with into the woods. For me that is my Arc Systeme L'Attendeux (a brass hinge made in France) which is by far the best fitting release I've ever shot and as long as I keep my thumb wrapped around that peg I can draw back as smoothly and slowly as I want and sit at full draw comfortably. Plus I've never been more accurate than with this thing - it's like black magic...
True, drawing and letting down with hinge can be pain in the index finger. I'd still hunt one but since I have an option, I'll go with a thumb. As far as index releases go.. ever try starting a lawn mover with a wrist strap?
Always solid advice to people! I see too many hunting videos where guys are getting bad hits on animals while shooting a hinge. Great video man! I spy the Forloh gear, we will be trying it out this year as well!
I hunt with a Scott Sigma 3 never used a hinge I'd never want to hunt with a regular style hinge release but I think the ones with the safety button on them are pretty slick and could be useful. I believe John Dudley came out with a Nock On back tension thats an index style release
After a season long bout of target panic I switched to a sweet spot pro and practiced 30-50 arrows a night from april to September brought that hinge to the woods with me and had much more confidence...IMO you practice how you hunt so to each their own just like bows, arrows, sights etc if looking at getting a hinge get one with a safety just in case you forget. Your teeth will thank you
@@averagejackarchery not in the least bit braver you are the one making videos and telling your opinion I'm the one sitting on my phone being a keyboard warrior lol..keep up the content I'll be here
I’m sure you mentioned it. What was the thumb button you had with the wrist strap. I’m interested in trying a thumb release but want a wrist strap. Any suggestions for a quality one?
Personally not for me. I really like a thumb trigger style ( I hate the term thumb button- theres no button anywhere) because of ability to control it with confidence. In the excitement of a hunting shot for me the hinge is a loose cannon. For years I used a trigger set fairly hard to pull so I wouldn't set it off prematurely. Now my thumb hunting release is set with a longer travel and slightly heavier tension. Not the time to have a release fire because of the excitement of the moment
Jack, is shooting with bow rack on the limbs safe? Or maybe You have special kind of stand, like mathews have one for his bows to shoot without removing the rack? Love Your vids, it's just pure, practical bow knowledge, keep it going! :)
They make special types that attach to stabilizers for hunting. So that's possible. But otherwise for competition it's illegal to have one attached in my class, so I ensure to shoot without it.
In my 18 years of hunting I've owned 11 different bows. Some I resold because they weren't for me, others were a monetary decision as I didn't need them as much as I needed other things. Lol. Right now, I pretty much keep everything as I don't buy anything unless I really intend on running it for a long time.
@@averagejackarchery 11 in 18 years isn't terrible or too many. I kind of expected high double figures, I started in 2017 and I'm on my 4th. A used Hoyt Pro Comp Elite was my first, then I got the Pro Force purely for the looks :-) I sold that and bought a Mybo Origin which I had for less than a year before part exchanging it for a Mybo Edge which I plan on keeping for a while. However I do like the colour of your current bow, if you ever want to part with it, I got first dibs! :-))
Thanks for sharing your experience! I can't shoot index year round for reasons that are similar. I get too complacent in my shot cycle and eventually end up punching everything. LOL
Great vid brother but I will say all the reserch I have seen deer see in the green and blue spectrum vary well ...not 100 percent on how true it is but just a thought..
Oh I'm fully aware about the blue! But I'm always up for the challenge. I figure movement and smell are the two biggest factors. So if I'm smart with those maybe I can get lucky. 😁
@@averagejackarchery oh it can be done fore sure ...be a good challenge I hope you get it done it fore sure bring thought to if what they say about the blue is really true or that important..
@@averagejackarchery If you really want the challenge, wear new Blue jeans and your Blue Penn State hoodie, using your Blue Elite Rezult, with the new Sirius Super Nova arrows with the blue highlights and blue nocks, topped off with the Blue Elite baseball cap. Now there's a challenge. But if you do all that BLUE, aren't you just a Big Smurf in a tree. Watch out for Gargamel! Are you up for the challenge?
Love the channel, love the content. Respectfully disagree with this one. Hunting with a hinge for 2 years. Great shots on my critters. Switched to thumb button and completely missed 6 times in one season. It's different for everyone, but I cant control the thumb. I punch it. Went back to my hinge.
To bloody a bow before retirement should include coyotes or wild pigs. Are there wild hogs in your hunting spots? No better wild meat next to elk than a free range 175# pig.
Average Jack Archery I'm sure they will eventually get there. Heck they are in Canada. If you ever get the opportunity to hunt them make it happen. Besides they are great eating. Don't fall for those tales of the meat not tasting like pork. Pork is pork!
Hinge hunters unite! Started hunting with it 2 years ago and a load of critters have been hitting the dirt.
+1 hinge hunter here
Yesssss!!!!
4 deer and a porcupine for me....Porcupine was a Booner too LOLOL
@@michaelficarro2591 Nice! First deer was definitely interesting. Seconds felt like minutes at full draw and the whole time i was thinking why wont this damn thing go off. I was like my release has betrayed me! Then the shot broke and it was perfect. So far I have 5 with the hinge and really dont have any interest of going back to a thumb. Maybe and index.
@@vm859 agreed, I love hunting with mine..
I have been exclusively shooting a hinge and including for hunting for 5 years now. It eliminates my target panic and reduces buck fever big time! I keep the hinge set fairly cold to help prevent accidental shots but then again in 5 years I haven’t had one yet.
Thanks for the input! Truly helps the community.
I did the exact same thing during a practice shoot once, messed up at 3/4 draw sent the release flying into my cable roller wheels, splitting one in half and bending the bracket. Though I feel way more confident with my Stan thumb release now.
Love your vids...I hunt with a hinge and love it...3 turkey and a hog last year...and had to let down 3 times on the hog...I think it is just what u practice with and get used to....
I shoot a UV hinge for 3D and Comp.
however in the deer woods I still hunt with my Carter Wise Choice.
I want to know exactly when my shot is going to break when at full draw on an animal.
That’s just me.
My hunting partner kills big bucks with a hinge for last 7 years.
It’s up to the Individual
Love my trigger style.
Never used a hinge type....probably never will. I've gotten too used to the trigger style.
Hinge release is the only release that I have shot for the last 10 years. Target and hunting
Thanks for sharing!
man i wish more archers had your honesty and humble approach
Hinge with a built in safety is amazing for hunting. Like a carter butter or tubalL sweet spot. Would never use a traditional hinge though for hunting
I use 3 different index style releases (HHA, True Fire & True Ball). I would consider trying a thumb or Hinge, but some are so pricey, not sure I want to lay down $$$ foe something I may not like. And as you have previously mentioned, not many shops have demo releases. Until I come across somebody that want to let my try out their release, I'll stick with what I have and focus on executing that surprise shot by hooking the finger and pulling through the arm.
Some of the popular models hold their value. You could buy a used one and sell it for about the same price as you pay for it if you don’t like it’d you try a hinge, I can say the best thing I did was make a little practice bow thing so that there were no real consequences when you mess up. I messed up almost every time when I started, but by the time I tried it with my bow I had it figured out.
I’ve always wondered if you shoot your bow “by accident” at 1/2 or3/4 draw does it hurt the bows in any way
As long as there’s an arrow nocked-it won’t damage the bow. That said, unless you can draw back and keep your bow perfectly on target, there’s no telling where your arrow will end up.
No damage to the bow! As long as the arrow was nocked. Just gives a weak shot it all. No harm.
I would say I like your shirt but I can’t see it.
STAAAHHHHP
I struggled with punching the trigger when I moved to thumb from wrist release. Don't wanted to go back to wrist so I ended up getting the truball sweet spot (built in safety) since it was my first hine and the wrist strap from truball coz I don't wanted to take the chance to have the release slip from my finger. best setup for me so far, it slows me down enough to focus on my execution and I don't have to worry about sending an arrow mid-draw.
Love your video and the way you explain things.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I’ve hunted 22 years with a hinge , no issue
Cool input! Braver than me.
@@averagejackarchery I use the truball ultra sweet spot for hunting , also has a safety for letting down or long holds , no issues
The pros are probably more comfortable with a hinge since they shoot thousands of shots in a year. I used a thumb trigger release for a number of years, having it hanging on my loop while in my deer stand. Older age arthritis in my fingers has forced me to go to an index finger wrist style now. Took a bit of getting used too!
Thanks for sharing!
FYI, that BLUE bow will stand out like a sore thumb to a deer!!! Deer DO see colors, they just don't see the red spectrum or much of the green spectrum, but Blue is the ONE color that stands out the MOST to them, so I would advise you to NEVER wear blue in the woods. Research has shown this to be fact, our grandparents that taught us deer see in black & white were wrong. Do the research if you don't believe me.
I gotta say, If you want the best of both world check out the GOAT from TruBall. It’s not the most adjustable hinge but it’s smooth. And the thumb button setting is crisp. I like that it IS the same release. So your anchor, d-loop, peep can all be the same.
While I have the utmost respect for you and your content I would tend to disagree on this one: I'd say take whatever release you feel most comfortable with into the woods. For me that is my Arc Systeme L'Attendeux (a brass hinge made in France) which is by far the best fitting release I've ever shot and as long as I keep my thumb wrapped around that peg I can draw back as smoothly and slowly as I want and sit at full draw comfortably. Plus I've never been more accurate than with this thing - it's like black magic...
True, drawing and letting down with hinge can be pain in the index finger. I'd still hunt one but since I have an option, I'll go with a thumb. As far as index releases go.. ever try starting a lawn mover with a wrist strap?
Been hunting with a hinge for several years and have had no issues
Always solid advice to people! I see too many hunting videos where guys are getting bad hits on animals while shooting a hinge. Great video man!
I spy the Forloh gear, we will be trying it out this year as well!
I've been rocking this base layer late season and now for turkeys and I'm very impressed with its attributes!
I hunt with a Scott Sigma 3 never used a hinge I'd never want to hunt with a regular style hinge release but I think the ones with the safety button on them are pretty slick and could be useful. I believe John Dudley came out with a Nock On back tension thats an index style release
Thank you for explaining this.
I bought the new rook release from B3 and it's pretty awesome. I love the way it feels all around
Thanks never knew that, I will stick with my thumb button never know if I will have gloves on or not it’s about ease of use in what ever situations 👍
After a season long bout of target panic I switched to a sweet spot pro and practiced 30-50 arrows a night from april to September brought that hinge to the woods with me and had much more confidence...IMO you practice how you hunt so to each their own just like bows, arrows, sights etc
if looking at getting a hinge get one with a safety just in case you forget. Your teeth will thank you
Thanks for sharing your experience, Kyle! Braver man than me.
@@averagejackarchery not in the least bit braver you are the one making videos and telling your opinion I'm the one sitting on my phone being a keyboard warrior lol..keep up the content I'll be here
I’m sure you mentioned it. What was the thumb button you had with the wrist strap. I’m interested in trying a thumb release but want a wrist strap. Any suggestions for a quality one?
Yes I did! No biggie. Scott Pursuit. Check out video description for applicable links!
Personally not for me. I really like a thumb trigger style ( I hate the term thumb button- theres no button anywhere) because of ability to control it with confidence. In the excitement of a hunting shot for me the hinge is a loose cannon. For years I used a trigger set fairly hard to pull so I wouldn't set it off prematurely. Now my thumb hunting release is set with a longer travel and slightly heavier tension. Not the time to have a release fire because of the excitement of the moment
I agree you can use a hinge but there is a higher percentage of thing that could go wrong, why chance it?
while I don't really consider it a true hinge, but the Scott Longhorn Hex Release w/ Wrist Strap may be a hunting choice.
Yes! Another good option from Scott as a hinge style but with a little more "hunter feel" with that wrist strap.
Jack, is shooting with bow rack on the limbs safe? Or maybe You have special kind of stand, like mathews have one for his bows to shoot without removing the rack? Love Your vids, it's just pure, practical bow knowledge, keep it going! :)
They make special types that attach to stabilizers for hunting. So that's possible. But otherwise for competition it's illegal to have one attached in my class, so I ensure to shoot without it.
Sweet Spot II
Did you end up clockin a deer with bluey?
Unfortunately, no! It made for a great target bow though.
ahhh sad, is a pretty bow tho. Thanks for the reply @@averagejackarchery
How much have you spent on bows over the years? Do you keep them or sell them on?
In my 18 years of hunting I've owned 11 different bows. Some I resold because they weren't for me, others were a monetary decision as I didn't need them as much as I needed other things. Lol. Right now, I pretty much keep everything as I don't buy anything unless I really intend on running it for a long time.
@@averagejackarchery 11 in 18 years isn't terrible or too many. I kind of expected high double figures, I started in 2017 and I'm on my 4th. A used Hoyt Pro Comp Elite was my first, then I got the Pro Force purely for the looks :-) I sold that and bought a Mybo Origin which I had for less than a year before part exchanging it for a Mybo Edge which I plan on keeping for a while. However I do like the colour of your current bow, if you ever want to part with it, I got first dibs! :-))
I'll be hunting with a hinge this year. But mine at least has a saftey.. Those index releases gave me severe target panic.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I can't shoot index year round for reasons that are similar. I get too complacent in my shot cycle and eventually end up punching everything. LOL
I get it and agree. But, I took my first archery buck with a nock on silverback.
Thanks for the input!
Been hunting with my old Stan since 93
And being a Stan it probably runs now just as good as the day you bought it!
Average Jack Archery absolutely I've had to polish the half moon a few times due to rain but it has never failed me
Great vid brother but I will say all the reserch I have seen deer see in the green and blue spectrum vary well ...not 100 percent on how true it is but just a thought..
Oh I'm fully aware about the blue! But I'm always up for the challenge. I figure movement and smell are the two biggest factors. So if I'm smart with those maybe I can get lucky. 😁
@@averagejackarchery oh it can be done fore sure ...be a good challenge I hope you get it done it fore sure bring thought to if what they say about the blue is really true or that important..
@@averagejackarchery If you really want the challenge, wear new Blue jeans and your Blue Penn State hoodie, using your Blue Elite Rezult, with the new Sirius Super Nova arrows with the blue highlights and blue nocks, topped off with the Blue Elite baseball cap. Now there's a challenge. But if you do all that BLUE, aren't you just a Big Smurf in a tree. Watch out for Gargamel! Are you up for the challenge?
What camo is that?
FORLOH's Deep Cover. Been using a baselayer they sent me for a while now. Video this week/weekend.
Love the channel, love the content. Respectfully disagree with this one.
Hunting with a hinge for 2 years. Great shots on my critters.
Switched to thumb button and completely missed 6 times in one season.
It's different for everyone, but I cant control the thumb. I punch it.
Went back to my hinge.
Thanks for sharing!
To bloody a bow before retirement should include coyotes or wild pigs. Are there wild hogs in your hunting spots? No better wild meat next to elk than a free range 175# pig.
No, thankfully. No wild pigs this far North for me!
Average Jack Archery I'm sure they will eventually get there. Heck they are in Canada. If you ever get the opportunity to hunt them make it happen. Besides they are great eating. Don't fall for those tales of the meat not tasting like pork. Pork is pork!
Who makes that shirt? Looks baller. Gordon Gartrelle?
FORLOH