Why Bowser rarely uses Blue Flames

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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • Blue flames are the hottest and most powerful type of fire, right? So then why doesn't Bowser use them all the time?
    00:00 Intro
    02:34 Science Mumbo Jumbo
    4:55 The Rest of the Video
    Sources:
    Flame Colors: pslc.ws/fire/howwhy/flameco.htm
    What does the Color of a Flame mean?: www.cuttingedgefirewood.com/b...
    How Hot Is a Blue Flame? Which Color Is the Hottest?: www.kitchenfirestop.com/blogs...
    What Color Is the Hottest Flame?: science.howstuffworks.com/wha...
    How Hot Are Different Flame Colors?: firefighternow.com/how-hot-ar...
    Lava: www.britannica.com/science/la...
    Fire Dynamics (this is the body's response to temperature chart): www.nist.gov/el/fire-research...
    Combustion and Types of Combustion: www.toppr.com/guides/chemistr....
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  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 Před 28 dny +69

    Maybe he doesn't do it often because he's all about presentation, and red flames fit his design a lot better, and even he knows it.

    • @dylandelahaie7800
      @dylandelahaie7800 Před 28 dny +12

      It's actually pretty smart considering he uses Blue flares a lot when in his Skeleton Form, wich fits way better.

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Před 28 dny

      @@dylandelahaie7800 Yeah fair, also hey

    • @dylandelahaie7800
      @dylandelahaie7800 Před 28 dny

      ​@@Oceane1803Hey :3

    • @dylandelahaie7800
      @dylandelahaie7800 Před 28 dny

      ​@@Oceane1803(It's Crazy how WE have like, the same YT feed and I keep seeing you everywhere lol)

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Před 28 dny

      @@dylandelahaie7800 I mean I guess we're friends for a reason.

  • @aaronrivera2511
    @aaronrivera2511 Před 28 dny +45

    He also used blue flames in SM64, though that was probably thanks to the power of the stars.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny +9

      Something I mentioned, it's possible since aside from the Dry thing being connected to magic.
      I have a hypothesis that all Koopa Dark Magic is stolen Star/Wish Magic.
      In addition to we see Bowser use Magic more often when he has access to the power of the stars.

  • @DuskusCB
    @DuskusCB Před 26 dny +24

    Blue flames are generally reserved for undead characters.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 25 dny +2

      Seems to be the case

  • @jazzy1554
    @jazzy1554 Před 27 dny +22

    Short answer, it matches his color scheme better

  • @nicholasmanibusan1380
    @nicholasmanibusan1380 Před 27 dny +12

    "Literally Accurate Hellfire"

  • @Wario_B
    @Wario_B Před 28 dny +11

    I just figured the different color was from magic

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 28 dny +7

      The blue, no. But the purple ones, especially in 3D Land, are likely infused with magic. There's a noticeable difference in sound when those fireballs fly by in the final boss. I plan on making videos going over the different ways Bowser uses his fire breath and magic.

    • @cbfranco3307
      @cbfranco3307 Před 26 dny +2

      ​@@lonedivider Btw question, isn't purple fire also supposed to be even hotter than blue flames?

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 26 dny +3

      From what I've gathered, purple fire seems to be theoretical, as blue is the highest color possible due to it being the highest energy light we can see with our eyes.

  • @gollden_boi
    @gollden_boi Před 5 dny +2

    We all know the real answer is Nintendo just wants his stronger forms to seem more intimidating 🙏

  • @Skypatroller_BenCD
    @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +13

    07:00 he does so too in Mario Party 10
    (Edit: 07:44 nothing tells that the party games aren't canon and besides the Mario's world is a cartoon world so inconsistencies are bound to happen due to the cartoon logic of that world)

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny

      I'd have to mostly agree.
      The Mario world is actually a highly consistent world, and any inconsistencies have already been dealt with via easy retcons.
      Such as the Bowser Junior and Koopalings thing.
      The fact Nintendo has acknowledged a Canon of Mario Tales shows there is one to begin with.
      This actually makes sense give how various games reference Mario's past events either through worldbuilding, dialogue, manuals, and descriptions.
      I agree with you on the Party thing. In a previous post on his shell video, he tried to claim stuff I was saying didn't count because it's from the sports, party, and Kart games which he believes are inconsistent and non canon.
      So I mentioned to him some of the that in spite of what people would think the Party, Sports, and Kart games are intended to be canon and have never implied to not be canon.
      Similar to how Team Sonic Racing and Sonic Riders are meant to be canon to the "main Sonic games," so to is the kart games Canon to the Mario Tales.
      Nintendo establishes this all the time.
      _"You may know him as a famous plumber, but he’s also a kart racer, sports star, caped hero, and more! "_
      "Mario excels at sports including tennis, golf, baseball, soccer, and even kart racing. He's good at all of them! He's a plumber by profession but is really a jack of all trades."
      "Princess Peach is always game for a variety of sports, and also enjoys baking and cooking."
      I while he didn't say why he thinks they are inconsistent, I went ahead and brought up the typical reasons people think they are, and showed why everything is still consistent.
      But finally I mentioned how if Nintendo wanted use to think these games weren't canon they would have either other right stated it like in Mario + Rabbids. Or made it obvious like the Movie does.
      That they would have Sunshine list of Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart 64 as having taken place prior.
      Or Luigi's diary wouldn't mention karting, party, and sports events.

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +1

      @Eris1987 honestly I used this logic
      1 spin off doesn't mean not canon
      2 not acknowledging what happened in a spin off doesn't mean that the spin off isn't canon
      3 we had to know the differences between minor and major inconsistencies basically minor inconsistencies are inconsistencies that exists but doesn't decanonies a game while major ones are inconsistencies that says that the game isn't canon
      4 everything should be considered canon until something or the creators says otherwise (not counting crossover and educational games cause that's another can of worms)

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny

      @@Skypatroller_BenCD 1. Fr
      2. True, and they do acknowledge them. >=D.
      3. Curious on what you think are inconsistencies. I personally don't find any, and I love lore discussion about the Mario World.
      4. Same thing I basically said, hence why I brought up Mario + Rabbids thing.
      I mentioned the movie because so much about it contradicts the canon of the games, and not in small ways. So much that if you were to say it was canon the majority of games would have to be decanonized.
      True on Crossovers, though one Chipps has made an interesting argument for some of them.
      Not Olympic games because that just doesn't work for either franchise.
      And Smash Bros well you know, do I really need to say it

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +1

      @Eris1987 if we point out what he said about Mario Party 10 we could say that's a minor inconsistencies and usually I don't take non video games stuff unless it is stated to be canon like for example the Metroid Manga, the movie Final Fantasy Advent Children or Sonic Prime and IDW and for the crossover I prefer explaining that on my Canon Theory Remastered (by the way I recognized you from the Mona video sup)

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +1

      @Eris1987 also I forgot this
      5 you don't have to mention the spin off to say that it happened but it could count as point number 2.5

  • @Eris1987
    @Eris1987 Před 29 dny +7

    The Dry Bowser boss fight of the Special Worlds is more than likely canon even though it's a post credits thing. The reason is because the reason Mario heads to the Special Worlds is to rescue Luigi after Bowser kidnapped him.
    I also have a hypothesis the Special Worlds are the Lost Levels.
    If you've seen my previous response to you I explained why the karting, sports, party games are canon. So I'm not going to retread that ground here.
    But aside from him taking on that form in the party games, Bowser also takes on that form in New Super Mario Bros 2
    Boos and Fishing Boos are ghosts. I forgot which game said it, but there is some dialogue from someone acknowledging Boos were once alive.
    Fishing Boos are directly stated to be the ghosts of Lakitus.
    Now before anyone makes a hypothesis that Boos are Koopas based on the Fishing Boo. Fishing Boos are called Supūku in Japanese and not Teresa.
    Honestly decent hypothesis you have. I think he probably can use it more often because he's in that state given blue flames seem to be an undead thing mostly.
    We also know there is some kind of supernatural force making Dry Bones still walk.
    I would guess he occasionally breathes blue flames because of some magic though is limited. While Bowser is a magic user he does appear to be limited. I think this is because his magic is the result of him wielding stolen Star/Wish Magic or in other words the Power of the Stars.
    Which also probably why he doesn't use his magic all the time.
    A resistance is weird , I don't think he developed a resistance given the whole SMB-SMB2 thing. Also, technically SM64 and SM64DS. As well as him taking on this form afterwards.
    The Dry Bowser form could be like his giant form. We know Bowser can enter said form normally though under high stress situations, but it's primarily triggered by Magic and Power Stars which I believe are connected.
    Dry Bowser could be a similar thing, certain conditions can cause it, like the whole Skeletone Formula:D incident.
    EDIT: Given Big Tail Goombas show in Bowser's Minions, this would place the events of Super Mario 3D Land before Superstar Saga and if I am correct before NSMBDS.

  • @novamarpo3
    @novamarpo3 Před 26 dny +5

    I sense an upcoming theorist 🤔
    You’ve got alotta potential! We shall watch your career with great interest. (But no pressure. If making these videos ever get to be overwhelming, please take time for yourself.)

  • @SpectreSkirt
    @SpectreSkirt Před 26 dny +6

    an easy explanation, albeit a lazy one, is that bowser values the integrity of the rivalry and won't use things that are overkill or will guarantee him a victory. check out IDW comics eggman for a similar concept, he had a whole monologue about it.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 26 dny +6

      There is seemingly either a sense of pseudo honor or arrogance of, "just try to get past me and get this axe."
      He only occasionally goes overkill like in PM64 with the Star Rod at the beginning.
      In Bowser's Minions I believe it's Captain Goomba who catches on it's odd Bowser ordered them to destroy Mario.

    • @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu
      @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@Eris1987Bowser may be the bad guy butt he isn't the bad guy.

  • @iantheawesome0
    @iantheawesome0 Před 22 dny +1

    He uses blue fire in Mario 64 in the final battle

  • @chrisd2597
    @chrisd2597 Před 21 dnem +1

    6:42 I never realized how ridiculous that is until you point it out lol

  • @Skypatroller_BenCD
    @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +6

    I think I'll use that argument to debunk the theory saying that Dry Bowser is Bowser's brother/Blue Bowser/Bluewser

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny +1

      Well you don't need to do it that way.
      This is because the 2 Dry Bowsers originats from Mario Party Island Tour where Bowser called a Dry Bowser a close family friend, not even a relative.
      In addition that Dry Bowser in question is a Bubble Clone and the text is a mistranslation.

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +1

      @Eris1987 I was going to point that out in the video but the reason why I want to debunk it is because people still believe that theory to these days

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny

      @@Skypatroller_BenCD The Blue Bowser being Dry Bowser not so much for me.
      Though I did think Dry Bowser in Island Tour was another Koopa related to Bowser, as in the same species not blood related.
      It was the CZcamsr Chipps who gave me the information showing it was a mistranslation and confirmed it was indeed a Bubble Clone.

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD Před 28 dny +1

      @@Eris1987 give me the translation cause it might help me

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny

      @@Skypatroller_BenCD okay, imma have to dig it up in my notes wherever I put it.

  • @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584

    Now we need to know where the heck are the purple flames?
    They're so cool and appeared only once!
    Interesting video, and anyone who use 3d Land and Dream team (music or exemples) in a video get +points from me.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 26 dny +2

      @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584 If I had to guess, it's likely a result of magic given how differently the spread is compared to the other ways he's used his fire breathe.

  • @shart_squelcher
    @shart_squelcher Před 29 dny +2

    this guy justs posts banger after banger

  • @seandwalsh3
    @seandwalsh3 Před 11 dny

    The Mario Party games are confirmed to be canon. There aren’t any inconsistencies within them so I don’t see why you would write them off.
    Notably, in Mario Party 10 there’s clearly a magical transformation beneath the lava when Bowser becomes Dry Bowser, as indicated by the glow. His skin likely doesn’t burn off in that instance.

  • @golemplay64
    @golemplay64 Před 17 dny

    Me getting grounded after I told my brother that blue fire is cold

  • @This_awesomeguy64
    @This_awesomeguy64 Před 28 dny +1

    I nerded all the way through here somehow

  • @kennycarter5682
    @kennycarter5682 Před 25 dny +1

    i think bowser can become dry bowser at will these days. and internally he likely has a pipe that is immune to fire, you also gotta think about how is he going to have more pure oxygen inside him? same air concentration inside him then outside him assuming his air plumbing is normal. blue fire in dry mode. or with magic involved. simple ish

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 25 dny

      There's just the 3D Land, MP, and NSMBWII issue.
      However he could use Skeleton Formula D for Go Karting

  • @maximus4765
    @maximus4765 Před 23 dny

    Simple, it tires him out. Best explanation in my eyes.

  • @hattedshadow2872
    @hattedshadow2872 Před 20 dny

    I’d assume that it takes significantly more strength and or stamina to produce hotter flame breath, possibly more heat needing to be channeled to produce it.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 17 dny +1

      Inside Story does show Bowser can't breath flames perpetually.

  • @Typi
    @Typi Před 20 dny

    While this is somewhat irrelevant, Dry Bowser is heavily alluded to be a form a "magic failsafe" in the few appearences he has made in canon, since in NSMB DS we see Kamek/BJ have to take time before deploying the tactical dead turtle. If I had to guess, it is a form that is meant to allow Bowser to fight longer and stay alive without any of the biogical limitations he normally has. I doubt simply falling into Lava causes the transformation, but likely acts as a catalyst for it.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 17 dny

      Meeting the right conditions like with Giant Bowser.
      Also, given the existence of Big Tail Goombas in Bowser's Minions, this would place SM3DL before SuperStar Saga. Since SM3DL is the first time Bowser gives his minions Super Leaves. In addition if SuperStar Saga does come before Sunshine or NSMBDS then this would mean SM3DL would be Bowser's first time becoming Dry Bowser canonically that we know of.
      Also, in case you would agree with the appearance of Dry Bowser in SM3DL not being canon. The post game is meant to be a continuation when Luigi gets kidnapped by the Koopa Troop and Mario must rescue him. Also, the Special Worlds could possibly be the Lost Levels.
      Also, when you are referring to canon are you at all implying the Party games for example aren't canon?

  • @theopoldthegamer4284
    @theopoldthegamer4284 Před 13 dny

    Blue flames drop coins, apparently

  • @justinthewarrior9165
    @justinthewarrior9165 Před 24 dny

    I do think blue flames are really awesome to me Him, breathing blue fire. It's just the coolest thing. I really enjoy it like I wish we see it even more

  • @random_guy8908
    @random_guy8908 Před 19 dny

    This is peak

  • @HyperTomoose
    @HyperTomoose Před 28 dny +1

    Perhaps a video explaining why piranha plants have skeletons lol

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny +1

      Because they are flowers in a high fantasy world.
      Same reason trees can, turtles and wield magic, doors can talk back, hexapod dragons run around, and entire islands can be turned into storybooks.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 28 dny +4

      @@Eris1987 Stating that this is a high fantasy world isn't a good argument. That statement on its own doesn't provide any solid evidence to prove anything, as a lot of things can be explained with in-universe statements or reasoning, such as the Koopas being able to wield magic since they are gifted in the art of dark magic. I'm not saying everything can be explained, but that statement is the equivalent of saying "because it's fiction, anything can happen."

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny +1

      @@lonedivider does the Mario world not run on high fantasy rules with talking sunflowers, magic from stars, and a character can be flattened like a pancake.
      Incorrect I never said that because it's fiction therefore anything can happen.
      Me mentioning it's because they are in a high fantasy setting, it's that they have skeletons because they are in a high fantasy setting.
      The man eating flowers that are capable of speech and are always referred as plants and in plant term in universe and in descriptions is consistent in a high fantasy world.
      Just as talking trees is consistent.
      Because in a world that is not a high fantasy world they wouldn't have skeletons and be able to talk.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 28 dny +2

      @Eris1987 I said your statement is the equivalent of saying, "Because it's fiction, anything can happen." That is a metaphor.
      What I'm saying is that in response to a question, instead of providing an answer with solid evidence or speculation with reasoning to back it up, your response simply being "because they are flowers in a high fantasy setting," is no different than saying because this is fiction, anything is possible. This is also a metaphor.
      What I'm saying is that your answer is very simplistic and that it would not satisfy most people. Yes, Mario is a "hig fantasy world" as you put it, but that does not mean that elements about said world can not be explained beyond that. Instead of pondering the possibility of a skeletal structure based on their body structure and properties, you provided a very bare bones argument that, while technically correct, can be used to explain anything in fiction.
      You have shown before that you are capable of more advanced speculation with evidence than this, using what you view as internal consistency. I'm simply saying you should provide a more in-depth answer than what is essentially because the setting can allow it. This is ALSO a metaphor.

    • @Eris1987
      @Eris1987 Před 28 dny +1

      @@lonedivider isn't the point of a metaphor there is a meaning behind that that can be explained by the person with the figurative language?
      _"Instead of providing an answer with solid evidence or speculation with reasoning to back it up."_ There is not much to speculate about, Piranha Plants simply have the features because they are in this setting. If it were a more grounded setting they wouldn't have any of this or would be some type of animal.
      I get _"it would not satisfy most people."_ But sometimes answers are just that simple, plus with what the person asked there isn't much to go on. In addition, Occam's Razor is a thing ya know.
      _"Can be used to explain anything in fiction. "_ Incorrect, if said fiction was more grounded and a form of speculative fiction piece, then it would abide more by our world's rules instead of high fantasy and or cartoon rules. Yet that is also fiction and high fantasy rules would not explain it thus not explaining anything in fiction.
      True, but when it comes to my speculation I typically preface as a hypothesis, thus leaving it open to alterations based on information not previously know.
      I would have said more to them, but that would required them to have said more.
      For example, if they specifically said something akin to a old outdated hypothesis I had about Piranha Plants, then I would have said more. But since they didn't I turn didn't see a need to.
      You know what I might as well let you know what I'm talking about.
      I had an old hypothesis that Piranha Plants are reptiles because they have skeletons, tongues, some lay eggs, and some even have scales.
      I eventually concluded my hypothesis was false based on information from the games.
      The things that debunked my hypothesis include the following.
      For starters you have the Pakkun Flower which is either a relative or alternative name for Piranha Plants. Note how it has flower in the name.
      Nipper Plants which are either young Piranha Plants or Piranha Plant relatives (I forgot which it was) have plant in the name and are called flowers.
      Ptooies are called Flowers.
      There is also the Piranha Plants description from the Super Mario Bros section of the Encyclopedia which refers to them as "man eating plants."
      In the Super Mario Bros Manual they are called man eating plants.
      The fact they have vines, thorns, and leaves like actual plants. The mutant Boss Piranha Plant Petey has petals.
      Using Goombario's tattle on the Lava Piranha Goombario uses terms such as buds, flowers, and plant to refer to the Lava Piranha.
      While this next one is not canon, I have noticed it has a lot of things correct about the Mario World or at least parallels. Most notable is how it came out one year after Super Mario Bros and it has the concept of Mario being on the same planet as the Mushroom Kingdom, Mario and Luigi being twins, and a prophecy about the Bros.
      Piranha Plants have also been called flowers in the OVA.
      Continuing on with canon sources.
      Super Mario Run calls them dangerous plants.
      The Gluttonous Gobbler Constellation calls them a species of carnivorous plants.
      Mario Party DS uses flower, bud, and plant to refer and describe a Piranha Plant.
      Some are used as a bouquet in Odyssey, kinda makes sense since they are flowers.
      You have Storm Chasers where they grow because of water.
      So on and so forth.
      In conclusion of that after I debunked my own hypothesis I concluded I was trying to impose irl logic unto the Mario World when I initially made this hypothesis, and that I shouldn't try to do this because the Mario World runs on High Fantasy rules. Plants like Toads and Goombas which are mushrooms, just simply have skeletons in this world, they aren't bound by our world's logic.
      Speaking of which the whole imposing real world logic onto Mario's World is sort of a problem I've noticed in various hypotheses people create.
      For example while I don't care for power scaling I saw someone doing it and tried to claim Mario is as fast as and or faster than Sonic because he can dodge cannonballs and lighting/light based attacks.
      While they could make a gameplay argument, gameplay mechanics for the cannonball and they are faster in universe. Often times these thought to be gameplay mechanics are literal in universe when it comes to Mario.
      Super Mario Run outright states the cannonballs are simply just that slow.
      As for lightning and light based attacks, it is the high fantasy thing all over again.

  • @pikaland3852
    @pikaland3852 Před 21 dnem

    And I assume the same for the White Fire seen in 3D land's final main game fight? Also Mario galaxy NEEDS to be an Outlier. THAT ARENA IS A LITERAL CORE OF A STAR, an artificial core BUT A CORE OF A STAR NONE THE LESS.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 20 dny

      @pikaland3852 I'd argue it's magic given the difference in sound effects heard when it passes you. If it were real white flames, the gap between orange and white heat is nowhere near the heat of blue and operates on a limited oxygen supply.

  • @mushroo2453
    @mushroo2453 Před 29 dny

    I wanna know if you know about Mario's family since you sound like Carlito's DK lore video.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 28 dny

      I know a thing or two about the movie family. Not so much about the live action segments of Super Show, as I haven't watched all he them yet.
      I watched a few Carlito videos. Do I really sound like him that much?

    • @mushroo2453
      @mushroo2453 Před 28 dny

      @@lonedivider yeah pretty much so.

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 28 dny

      That's funny

  • @mappingmapping95
    @mappingmapping95 Před 25 dny

    What's the music used in the intro

    • @lonedivider
      @lonedivider  Před 24 dny

      @mappingmapping95 King Bowser is Here from Mario & Luigi Partners in Time