I don’t like the way the camera kinda feels like ur neck elongates while firing now but being able to use guns is crazy for tarkov tbh🤣. Great video helping to show the difference
This is a VAST improvement from before, the recoil used to be so inconsistent and overdone along with the weapon viewmodel movements/jiggle literally obstructing where the sights are even pointing, it used to make it so hard to just shoot your gun with a basic level of accuracy/consistency.
The old view model was so much better tho 😭 now it jus looks like a janky indie game. The mp5 w/ no stock full auto doesnt shake in his handsss at alll. Old recoil was perfect, boo hoo you couldnt spray with a naked m4 🤣
@@bakebookold is not at all realistic, also our PMC here is supposed to be a trained combatant who can actually control a gun like in the new recoil and not a 16 year old touching his first ever firearms like in the old recoil
@@Bucketnatenot everybody wants to larp as a malnourished child soldier in Uganda shooting an ak for the first time lol, for the average person this is an improvement as most people don’t want a more janky experience for the sake of making the game harder because it fits with their role play more
@@TaoriUTS no one would ever complain about guns being laserbeams , especially now because bsg removed basically all good/decent ammo from traders this wipe
@@TaoriUTS This solution is much better than constantly dying from completely random headshots. In the arena, this problem manifests itself very strongly when an enemy shoots at the legs from 10 meters and hits the head due to the wild recoil.
yea bc the mp5 with no stock not shaking in his hands "makes sense". Go look at the pistols too 🤣 its so cringe if u ppl think it LOOKS better, basically looks like a janky indie game
0:14 when you look at the old recoil footage with that front sight flying about, just imagine the PMC only holding the gun with his right hand. no support from the forestock held by the left arm, not pushing the butt into his shoulder. every single rifle before this update was effectively just an over-sized pistol
Good change! The old recoil model made the PMC appear to be an untrained amatuer when it comes to firearms, the new recoil makes the PMC appear to be somewhat competent.
More like none of the guns had stocks and they were holding it with two fingers, lol. Im genuinely amazed how many devs think its a good idea for a game to have a recoil model that makes it look like a military member cant hold their gun remotely close to zero
Good. As someone who fired full auto M4's many times when I was law enforcement, the first time I shot one in Tarkov it was laughable, goofy af experience. I get Tarkov is supposed to be realistic, but sometimes it's harsher or more difficult than real life to the detriment of gameplay. First time I ever shot a full auto it was an M4 and at 20 yards I still kept all 30 runds in a man sized target, not because I'm some badass and bragging, but because it's that easy. These weren't fancy Ar's either, they were equivalent to the default M4 in Tarkov with either Eotech 552's or Aimpoint M68's. 7.62 stock AK's are closest to Tarkov in real life, but 5.45 AK74 type weapons are also way easier to control in real life than Tarkov. Sometimes it feels like Nikita wasn't actually joking when he said Tarkov isn't supposed to be fun.
Tarkov is not realistic at all. Nikita has a completely different vision for the game. His vision is to make a really shitty """hardcore""" live service game with a ridicilously high skill ceiling and regular wipes, so all the casual players stay out. None of that is fun, he just wants to make money off of sweats and tryhards.
they got the one part of the recoil fixed that I was hoping they'd do, which is how the gun jerks upward even tho it was in your shoulder. That would make sense for a pistol since no stock, but this is going to fix so much
The spread interestingly hasn't changed much but understanding where you are shooting is so much better. And the recoil impulse is a lot more manageable
Guns having zero recoil is realistic? The new recoil is better for gameplay purposes 100%. But as someone who goes to the range tatleast once a month the old recoil is way closer to how recoil behaves in real life
@@MIGSmoakzNot sure what guns you are shooting but the old recoil felt like every gun was detached from your shoulder and had a compensator with a line of ports drilled pointing directly in to the ground
@@MIGSmoakzlooks a hell of a lot better. Guns don't climb that much for experienced folks, especially continous full auto. Modern rifles shake more than they climb if you know what you're doing, and I do. I carry a 3" barreled .40 S&W with +P Critical Defense, I know how to handle some recoil.
the biggest thing is honestly staying on your sights. its easier to see with the iron sights too. it used to be that point fire would simply be better always close range cause using a laser and just looking forward could be more effective than looking down your sights that are all over the place
The old recoil system was a big contributor in me not wanting to buy the game back in the day so it’s nice they changed it. Still never going to buy it bc now I just don’t have the time for a life sink like that but I’m happy it’s fixed for the people who play.
With this reworked recoil, it is now more viable to go semi auto with high performing AP rounds and tap people to death with it. Never like how the old recoil jumps the muzzle, causing you to lose your front sight or causing your red dot to disappear.
wow its crazy that I can actually see my sight now. 90% of the time ,spraying and even tapping sometimes, I can NOT see my front sight. Edit: on guns that aren't smgs or semi auto pistols
I can't believe a game prizing itself on being "tactical" had this dogshit original recoil system for years before this. Thank god they finally fixed it.
wow looks amazing and fun. If only I could actually log onto the game and play it. But just like every wipe the servers are overloaded. I wish they took all the money they spent at twitchcon and invested that into more servers so that everyone in their community could actually play the game on day 1 wipe. smfh
AND you can make them look cool while still working next on the list for bsg , optimisation, lighting, stamina rework, flee changes we nearly have the perfect game
Love how some people insist that the old recoil is somehow more realistic than this "COD like recoil", yeah its totally realistic for a trained PMCs, likely with years of experience as a soldier to have a massive skill issue handling recoil to the point of having the gun fly uncontrollably without bullshit attachments, and unironically CoD have better gunplay and movement for gameplay despite continuously being clowned on
New pistol recoil here: czcams.com/video/hEhv9LGfnUY/video.html
I don’t like the way the camera kinda feels like ur neck elongates while firing now but being able to use guns is crazy for tarkov tbh🤣. Great video helping to show the difference
When the buttstock on the gun actually does something 🤯
Being able to see the front sight through the rear aperture... I thought I would never see the day it finally happened...
7 years to get basic shooting in a shooting game. It finally happened
@@nfaisnfgayafter 9 years in development, hopefully it will have been worth the wait. -Gaben
This is a VAST improvement from before, the recoil used to be so inconsistent and overdone along with the weapon viewmodel movements/jiggle literally obstructing where the sights are even pointing, it used to make it so hard to just shoot your gun with a basic level of accuracy/consistency.
The old view model was so much better tho 😭 now it jus looks like a janky indie game. The mp5 w/ no stock full auto doesnt shake in his handsss at alll. Old recoil was perfect, boo hoo you couldnt spray with a naked m4 🤣
@@bakebookold is not at all realistic, also our PMC here is supposed to be a trained combatant who can actually control a gun like in the new recoil and not a 16 year old touching his first ever firearms like in the old recoil
@@bakebook something must be wrong with your brain
@@bakebook brain damage
@@bakebookshut up w your bait.
nobody gives a fuk
A turning point in tarkov history lads
is this not going backwards? Went from mil sim tactical recoil to COD back in 2007 recoil
@@Bucketnate whats wrong with cod
@@Bucketnatenot everybody wants to larp as a malnourished child soldier in Uganda shooting an ak for the first time lol, for the average person this is an improvement as most people don’t want a more janky experience for the sake of making the game harder because it fits with their role play more
@@Bucketnatethe recoil before was NOT tactical or realistic, our PMC is supposed to be a trained operator, not an untrained pleb with noodle arms
@@Bucketnate there was nothing cool about the old recoil bruh
HOLY SHIT THE GUNS FINALLY HAVE A STOCK!!!
Glad to see the sight no longer misaligns with target after every single shot
Iron sights are back on the menue bois
Finally Tarkov now makes sense and the recoil will be so enjoyable
wait 2 days. "this fucking sucks. everything is a laserbeam now"
@@TaoriUTS no one would ever complain about guns being laserbeams , especially now because bsg removed basically all good/decent ammo from traders this wipe
Well whether you like it or not it's much more realistic now.@@TaoriUTS
@@TaoriUTS This solution is much better than constantly dying from completely random headshots. In the arena, this problem manifests itself very strongly when an enemy shoots at the legs from 10 meters and hits the head due to the wild recoil.
yea bc the mp5 with no stock not shaking in his hands "makes sense". Go look at the pistols too 🤣 its so cringe if u ppl think it LOOKS better, basically looks like a janky indie game
Finally, the literal trained soldier we all play as can properly shoot a fucking gun
The fact burst fire is a thing now is amazing
Gang, they finally added shooting to the first person shooter
Finally character figured out how to hold weapon in hands correctly
0:14 when you look at the old recoil footage with that front sight flying about, just imagine the PMC only holding the gun with his right hand. no support from the forestock held by the left arm, not pushing the butt into his shoulder. every single rifle before this update was effectively just an over-sized pistol
Good change! The old recoil model made the PMC appear to be an untrained amatuer when it comes to firearms, the new recoil makes the PMC appear to be somewhat competent.
More like none of the guns had stocks and they were holding it with two fingers, lol.
Im genuinely amazed how many devs think its a good idea for a game to have a recoil model that makes it look like a military member cant hold their gun remotely close to zero
Good. As someone who fired full auto M4's many times when I was law enforcement, the first time I shot one in Tarkov it was laughable, goofy af experience.
I get Tarkov is supposed to be realistic, but sometimes it's harsher or more difficult than real life to the detriment of gameplay.
First time I ever shot a full auto it was an M4 and at 20 yards I still kept all 30 runds in a man sized target, not because I'm some badass and bragging, but because it's that easy. These weren't fancy Ar's either, they were equivalent to the default M4 in Tarkov with either Eotech 552's or Aimpoint M68's.
7.62 stock AK's are closest to Tarkov in real life, but 5.45 AK74 type weapons are also way easier to control in real life than Tarkov.
Sometimes it feels like Nikita wasn't actually joking when he said Tarkov isn't supposed to be fun.
Tarkov is not realistic at all. Nikita has a completely different vision for the game. His vision is to make a really shitty """hardcore""" live service game with a ridicilously high skill ceiling and regular wipes, so all the casual players stay out. None of that is fun, he just wants to make money off of sweats and tryhards.
also when they said that they actually shot guns to model the recoil after. Or the ruskies got noodle arms
@@shrekrab Man I gotta say if Tarkov is a live service game, they really fucked up with the lack of live services.
No way 7.62x39 behaves in real life like it did in this game, it's a suprisingly calm recoil even if a bit stronger than 5.56.
@@Tacticaviator7 for some people. Others just can`t handle it
This is what never made sense to me. Why does a gun sway so much while ads? The whole thing was floaty and uncontrollable for me.
they got the one part of the recoil fixed that I was hoping they'd do, which is how the gun jerks upward even tho it was in your shoulder. That would make sense for a pistol since no stock, but this is going to fix so much
I CAN SEE NOW!
Damn it looks way better. Can’t wait til I get out of work
i can see the front sight post now 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🥺😭
this is the best change they've made to the game in years
Oh my god it's beautiful. A new chapter is upon us
The old recoil was genuinely ridiculous
fr if you’ve ever shot any type of gun irl you would realize how fucked tarkovs was just to seem more hardcore
jesus christ it only took them several years....
Another good moral argument to pirate this game
The spread interestingly hasn't changed much but understanding where you are shooting is so much better. And the recoil impulse is a lot more manageable
Wait this looks so MUCH BETTER than what they showed us last time we saw the new recoil system
This looks really good!
was anyone else like "woahhhhhhh" after every comparison!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep, day and night difference!
ohily shit its like actually shooting in semi auto IRL
Oh my god, they're actually guns now instead of bobbleheads with barrels.
Nice vid, I love the new recoil system.
finally, the realistic game has a small element of realism
Tarkov wasn't, isn't and is never gonna be realistic. Nikita just wants to make a game that makes you wanna rip your nuts off.
вообще то это ММО, так Буяныч сказал, так что не удивляйся баффам от крафта и всему остальному
Guns having zero recoil is realistic? The new recoil is better for gameplay purposes 100%. But as someone who goes to the range tatleast once a month the old recoil is way closer to how recoil behaves in real life
@@MIGSmoakzNot sure what guns you are shooting but the old recoil felt like every gun was detached from your shoulder and had a compensator with a line of ports drilled pointing directly in to the ground
@@MIGSmoakzlooks a hell of a lot better.
Guns don't climb that much for experienced folks, especially continous full auto.
Modern rifles shake more than they climb if you know what you're doing, and I do.
I carry a 3" barreled .40 S&W with +P Critical Defense, I know how to handle some recoil.
There's now a headbobbing thing with it but its great. Looks more realistic whilst also being beneficial to the player.
Remember when like 2 years ago or something, BSG just added insane recoil to all guns for no reason?
How the turn tables
Thanks!
So I can finally see where I shoot AND burst fire isn't completely useless? It is a Christmas Miracle indeed.
Thank you❤
the biggest thing is honestly staying on your sights. its easier to see with the iron sights too. it used to be that point fire would simply be better always close range cause using a laser and just looking forward could be more effective than looking down your sights that are all over the place
tapping looks so much better now. Cant wait to go back to using my sks
The jump seems to be more gradual now which I absolutely love. I hated how you had to instantly jerk the mouse down in a very unnatural way before.
Now this, this is good.
They finaly made line of sight static instead making players head jiggling around a weapon even when it does not move in reality, huray!
I can't express how good it feels that a pistol feels like a pistol now
As someone who regularly handles firearms (including full auto M4’s and machine guns, see my shorts) the recoil for Tarkov was insane 💀
that camera recoil is the first thing i turn off when I load into SPT
Man finally mp5 doesnt kick like an ak 47 without stock irl
Guns actually acting like guns. It has to be bug because they added new Shoreline quests for Peacekeeper
Finally the gun don’t bounce left and right
Finnaly our pmc have enough strength to control our beloved 556 rifle
Actually looks fun to play now
Cant wait to try staring at update status bar.....
I slapped on a MP5 and did an offline on the new map on wipe day the moment I fired at the first scav I was like "oh that's smooth!".
it's so much better than before
наконец то, они это сделали спустя столько лет
We need some lpvo and red dot testing
Please Test ASH-12/FAL and Heavy recoil rifles
The old recoil system was a big contributor in me not wanting to buy the game back in the day so it’s nice they changed it. Still never going to buy it bc now I just don’t have the time for a life sink like that but I’m happy it’s fixed for the people who play.
Play SP tarkov. There’s a whole discord for it. You don’t need to own the game. The single player is vastly better than the sweaty online
@@nfaisnfgay u do need to own tarkov for SPT
I FINNALY GET TO PLAY THE GAME NICE
the only thing im glad about is that the absurd first round kick is gone now, which was completely unrealistic and forced everyone to spray and pray
With this reworked recoil, it is now more viable to go semi auto with high performing AP rounds and tap people to death with it.
Never like how the old recoil jumps the muzzle, causing you to lose your front sight or causing your red dot to disappear.
Finally, with that recoil it'll be much easier to cosplay Serb, Demon, Borz, Skif, Raven (or Voron from Rus lang), Barmaley, or Mouse
İ feel like this game is finally playable now
old: where im shooting
new: geta fokout here rear sight
you would think that the pmcs are not trained if you look at the old recoil
Whens it coming to arena?
Semi auto bros, we're so back.
And people use to say that tarkov had good recoil and mechanics nice to see the devs clean it up
wow its crazy that I can actually see my sight now. 90% of the time ,spraying and even tapping sometimes, I can NOT see my front sight.
Edit: on guns that aren't smgs or semi auto pistols
This is so much better… now ban the hackers
Is this live? I stopped playing a while back
Woah a 5.56 rifle doesn't literally fly out of your hands anymore. Thanks BSG.
looks like ill actually be able to use the mp5 this wipe when ever the launcher gets fixed 🥴
Finally some realistic recoil. Old recoil felt like my player wasnt using his stock.
God at least we can always know where we shooting at now
The new recoil is awesome and more realistic even
I am more upset that this didn’t get put into arena than I am about any of the shit over the last 6 months with this game
Rifles have a Stock now!! GJ Nikita😂
They just brought it back to like 2021 recoil just about. Finally might make changes to revert towards when the game was popular
In the past had a hard time just to take down 1 scav or pmc but now it like i all most a one man army some times
I can't believe a game prizing itself on being "tactical" had this dogshit original recoil system for years before this. Thank god they finally fixed it.
Absolutely blows my mind. Took them 7+ years to make their first person shooter game, a first person shooter game. Wild
Game became playable now
Why did it take them so long to change it to this?
So we're super soldiers now
Could you compare hip fire somehow?
Can I have a permission to use this on my video?
Also, I would like to know any terms for it (specific way of giving credit etc)
Well... Now it's "Insurgency" type of shooting
holy fuck starter guns actually look usable now
good to know we're not playing Soldner anymore.
Now they actually look like trained mercenaries and not like your grandmother shooting for the first time
wow looks amazing and fun. If only I could actually log onto the game and play it. But just like every wipe the servers are overloaded. I wish they took all the money they spent at twitchcon and invested that into more servers so that everyone in their community could actually play the game on day 1 wipe. smfh
they rechange de recoil the 2 day of the wipe becose before i just don't control and just hit everything 60 m away
And just like that, all the guns are extremely viable.
AND you can make them look cool while still working
next on the list for bsg , optimisation, lighting, stamina rework, flee changes we nearly have the perfect game
@@azure8676 and before they get to all of those you mentioned - raid replay + anticheat improvements.
@@azure8676 bruh dont even look interchanges way
@@Soipelez 100%
Okay Nikita, I'm installing game back
So basically the recoil is tighter and it's better visually while the bullets go to generally the same area, not bad
actually feels nice now instead of having to fully kit out your m4 to get this recoil
Honestly, i couldn't care less about the actual recoil. Im just glad you can actually see the sights while shooting now
Love how some people insist that the old recoil is somehow more realistic than this "COD like recoil", yeah its totally realistic for a trained PMCs, likely with years of experience as a soldier to have a massive skill issue handling recoil to the point of having the gun fly uncontrollably without bullshit attachments, and unironically CoD have better gunplay and movement for gameplay despite continuously being clowned on
I'm gonna have to get back into this game. A huge turn off for me in fps games is sloppy gunplay.
Remember kids, Nikita thought we were going to hate this. I think that kind of says something.
So bursts are better! Thanks