Reactions to X-Men ’97 (Episode 5)

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  • On this Mega special episode, The PCP crew with guest Dr. Michael Stevens and Gavin react to episode five of X-Men ’97.
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  • @gjcart26
    @gjcart26 Před 2 měsíci

    😂 can't step across the Astro-plain

  • @UpRoaryus
    @UpRoaryus Před 3 měsíci +2

    FYI - It WAS Ace of Bass, not just LIKE it. "Happy Nation" is their tune.
    I Just stumbled onto your vid while trying to process myself through the grief of ep 5 by trauma bonding with people via reaction videos and glad I did. Really great discussion here. Someone else was talking a about how the writers were very deliberate in the mirroring of society today to essentially get us who are old enough to be revisiting this series as adults to maybe DO something about the state of affairs before it is too late. That point about WHO gets a seat at the table was really sharp. I am half Black and half Chinese but I look kind of like I could be anything and people are never really sure "what I might be" (for lack of a better way to frame it, but the shame of it is that this IS how it is understood.) I once met a fellow who was panhandling at a gas station who was maybe Creole, I dunno, but clearly of some African descent as evidenced by his features and hair texture despite his skin color and hair coloring looking more Irish being pale and freckled and strawberry blonde. He stopped me as I passed by not just to ask for change, but more deliberately, studying me with an INTENSE curiosity before asking straight out, "What ARE you?" When I told him, he looked almost wistful as he commented with a little bit of awe and a particular note of longing and wonder, "Wow, ... You could almost pass for White!"
    I had taken a half breath and opened my mouth to speak the response that formed immediately in my mind, "Why would I want to pass for White?" when I realized all at once even before the first "Wh-" could get from my brain to my voice that if I could NOT, at least some of the time pass for White, either when people might not be paying very close attention or even when they might be, that I would not need to ask that question at all. Even I had been "other" enough to understand my own privilege in that regard, having been in the room where folks who didn't know my background made some comments that they surely would not have said out loud if they had been aware. I could see from the way he said it that it was something he could not do, and that it must have been difficult for him to be between worlds being so light skinned, but not able to blend in with White people at all, and also not able to blend in with Black people and being judged however that would set with someone else at first sight forever and always.
    I was very fortunate in my upbringing to have been exposed to the diversity that I have become accustomed to enough to take for granted until Obama was elected. I had not realized that real stereotypical deeply harbored racism was still alive and well and just bubbling right under the surface in this country. I didn't know how many people still thought so backwards, but had been shamed into silence and just didn't dare be as overt with it publicly. It was shocking to me to hear some of the foolishness that fell out of people's mouths once Obama was in office, as they said the more ignorant and racist stuff while defending the idea that our country could not be racist BECAUSE he was elected. It was almost like it gave them permission to hold onto their fears and emboldened them to indulge the hate because Obama being President meant that racism wasn't real. It was the most overt evidence of racism I had ever seen when people spoke of him and didn't even realize how disrespectful they were being and how they would never have spoken like that about any previous President at all. It hurt to see. And as much as I woke up to that pretty quick, I was also becoming aware of something else that I had not understood before.
    Around the turn of the millennium, maybe the year before 9/11 happened, I noticed that I was having very interesting conversations when I was online that I never had in real life. They were deep and philosophical discussions, intellectual analysis and sharing of ideas, and I used to think it was because of the computer factor that meant that folks who were accessing the internet before AOL opened it up to anyone were likely to be nerdier than the average joe, and perhaps more intellectual because of that. It was not until some 8 yearslater that I understood what was actually happening when I saw a XKCD cartoon just when I was beginning to realize that our society has some very deeply embedded bullshit that was getting in the way of progress. I saw Obama get the nomination despite his seeming a bit less seasoned than others, but it wasn't until Trump that I saw that the sexism in this country was even worse than the racism. It hadn't even occurred to me to look at how Black history, even with the struggles, still gave Black men more freedom on paper, more agency as individual people in legislation, than we gave even White women. It seemed odd to me that White women as a class were hierarchically above Black people in society, but we gave Black men the right to vote even with their 3/5 value as a person while denying it to women.
    I realized that in all the discussions I had online that I enjoyed so much, 99% of the time I had always been assumed to be male. People would reference my comments with masculine pronouns, and since I didn't really think it important, I would usually not make an effort to correct that unless there was a particular reason to clarify it. My usernames were neutral most of the time, or in reference to a lion, as it represented my birth star sign, and generally would go along with an avatar of a male lion, because people would often note how my thick hair was much like a lion's mane. That assumption that I was male was actually the biggest factor in the difference between my online vs real life conversations. I didn't notice this for most of my life because I had benefited from a single sex education where I got to grow accustomed to being taken seriously during my formative years. I didn't understand that my being female was often behind why I sometimes had to deal with people who were dismissive or condescending, even my own mother! I realized how lucky I had been to be able to develop in an environment that allowed me to feel as valued as anyone else, rather than secondary, which is actually why a lot of women are so awful to each other and use men to add value to themselves.
    Anyway, just wanted to add that to the mix, that our tendency as people to categorize and judge is first based on our immediate visual perception, perhaps because it is the information that we get literally at the speed of light while everything else lags behind.. But we are past the primitive point of evolution where that would have been beneficial to survival to make snap judgements based on appearances. We still fall back to the basics though, to solve conflicts. Thousands of years we have been at the top of the food chain and able to conquer limitations of our biology that didn't allow us to fly, or to live in inhospitable environments, to become more dangerous than natures most dangerous predators. And we are still throwing bombs on each other. Still using fear and hate to gain power over others. When will we learn? Maybe when we evolve to where we can have no secrets because we can hear each others thoughts. Maybe when bombs don't work because we can deflect them with our armored skin or phase into atoms to let them pass through us. Or maybe we won't ever learn at all..
    Wow that was a lot inspired by a discussion about a cartoon, eh?

    • @popcultparent
      @popcultparent  Před 3 měsíci

      Wow! The power of an xmen conversation. Thank you for sharing. Unfortunately, I think XMen stories are pretty accurate on what would happen if humans faced the thought of extinction…

  • @MichaelSmith-oe5ef
    @MichaelSmith-oe5ef Před 3 měsíci

    Great

  • @AtlCinderella80
    @AtlCinderella80 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It's crazy. I understand you mentioned Bo, but he wasn't fired for nothing. He did something wrong and nomatter how great his writing is. If you do something bad on the job you get fired

  • @mandelharvey3429
    @mandelharvey3429 Před 3 měsíci

    Sean Bean
    Shuttle craft Galileo
    Genosha

  • @mandelharvey3429
    @mandelharvey3429 Před 3 měsíci

    This episode is a whole mix tape.
    Isaac Hayes moonlight loving the rendezvous of me and you and you.

    • @AtlCinderella80
      @AtlCinderella80 Před 3 měsíci

      Also cyclops was wrong. She made out with wolverine because she was confused, she still sick and isn't fully herself. After finding out Madeline wasn't the original Jean he should have figured it out, he cannot have both. That's like dating twins they look alike but are 2 different people with different personalities

    • @mandelharvey3429
      @mandelharvey3429 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AtlCinderella80 I wouldn't lie to you baby.
      It's mainly a physical thing
      Add "I feel for you" into the mix tape.
      do you play Chaka Khan version or the Prince? Honestly once he made a baby with his current wife he should have done the honorable thing and said with the mother of his child over his ex girlfriend. He was wrong to leave Madeline for Jean. Add "I'll see you next lifetime" to the mixtape. Jean only has the option of being an ex girlfriend or sister wife if she wants to be honorable.
      You me and she
      What's it gonna be baby
      Step in the name of Love

  • @nerdcultureistoxic
    @nerdcultureistoxic Před 3 měsíci

    can i be guest on your show

  • @rickyclover9393
    @rickyclover9393 Před 3 měsíci

    New Genoshia is a contradiction. The Mutants talk of Mutant liberation and Utopia yet I seen a white ruling elite sitting in the ivory tower making the rules, Black servants being waiters at this Gala. It reminded me of the movie, Get Out.

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 Před 3 měsíci

      Classism exists bro...😂

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also, the Hellfire Club represents White aristocracy. There is no contradiction. In the comics, mutants even attack and judge others for not "passing" as mutant or human.

    • @rickyclover9393
      @rickyclover9393 Před 3 měsíci

      @@murk4552 This classusm and racism within mutants is a contradiction by The Hellfire Club. The Godzilla Sentinels showed them all mutants are targeted for termination.