Every time he speaks... millions die
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Jedi Master Ki-Adi-Mundi is alive and well in the High Republic period we take a look at some of his most iconic lines, and how they inadvertently caused massive damage to the entire galaxy. We also take a look at his role in a potential coverup of Sith activity that left the Jedi completely unprepared for the events of the clone wars. Potato.
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You missed my favorite pearl of wisdom from Ki-Adi-Mundi: "Count Dooku is a political idealist, not a murderer"
haha yea or the time he calls out 9 year old anakin for thinking about his mom during his jedi trial
My favorite too!
Meanwhile Yaddle's ghost in the back of the room: "Cool story bruh. Guess I just died from a case of political idealism." 🤷👻
(Seriously though... did *anyone* even bother to wonder what happened to her???)
@@samgee6131hahahhah word!
We’d be wise to take care not to forget George had Mundi say those lines to show that even a respected Master could be blind to Sidious not ONLY to portray Jedi hubris or arrogance. Must be careful not to portray it reductively.
Let's revisit this one in a few years...potentially.
This is really good evidence that Ki-Adi-Mundi is Jar Jar’s Sith Master.
No. He’s the apprentice. At the time of Darth Bane I belive he secretly trained multiple apprentices to carry on the rule of two creating two lineages isolated from each other. This way if one was found the Jedi would again belive they had killed the Sith when another was still alive. This second lineage includes Jar Jar and Plaugius. (joke theory. Partially)
@@ThirdFortress Umm... This can't b.... Well.... Damn. This is actually really good, and would be completely accurate for Darth Bane... Wow
@@ThirdFortress joke theory with names. Kinda interesting theory in idea.
@@joeeaster1528 Exsactly. I can totally see there being two lines of Sith, the joke is just that Kadai Mundi is not one of them.
Man I love this!
"Bring in the flamethrowers!"- Ki-Adi Mundi
Oh you have 2 brains, are you twice as smart?
'No I'm just as stupid but twice as fast!'
Every time time ki-adi-mundi shows up a wookie dies.
But what about the droid attack on the Wookies
* Dying wookie growls.
@@Virtuoso111 you mean Wookie attack on the droids?
…dies off screen. Meh.
I remember when I was a kid, I really wanted a battle where a Sith would cut off the top part of his head.
No hate just sheer curiosity.
I had problems
this awesome thank you for sharing
@@GenerationTech Hey thanks, just a video suggestion.
Do we know how many Jedis were part of the Order at different times? Were there more in the Old Republic? High Republic? Prequel era?
Maybe there are more jedis in the Acolyte because they had more members like then?
You are not alone.
To see if his brain was the same shape as his skull
Lmaoo imagine it happens in like episode 3. They stop fighting and he just looks at the Sith all hurt and says "you cut off the top of my head" in bewilderment. It cuts to Anakin being sad at the Jedi Temple
Bro, this has to be one of the best SW Channel on yt. No politics, no toxic talking. Just talking about the stories whether it's the movies or the series. And what's happening and what it means to him and the overal big picture. Very calming and enjoyable channel.
I think he is the last channel to continue making fun starwars videos instead of just reviewing/complaining about the most recent episode.
Because there is nothing left to enjoy. Its hard to see the positive when Disney doesn’t care
@@Noda971 I agree. He's enjoy talking about it and deep diving. The others just rage baiting and can't come up with decent dialogue without repeating themselves for hours on end to rail up their subscribers for clicks. This channel giving you something to think about and it's great.
Do you think his headaches are worse than human’s headaches?
Do you think he would be accepted on planet Remulak?
@@persuasivebarrier2419 goated response 🤣
I hope so.
Depends on who his apprentice is
He literally has 2 headaches every time he has them.
I think there's a tiny Sith lord controlling him in a little chair in his head like the Men in Black alien.
Probably an anzellan
That tracker otter jedi is the real sith.
Hahahaha
this made me wheeze
I really liked your final conclusion here.
Ki-Adi Mundi is not convinced that the Sith are extinct in TPM - he knows about what happened in The Acolyte because he covered it up. Deep inside he probably knows it's true - a red bladed guy showed up 100 years prior and then disappeared and now this, that can't be a coincidence. He just feigns disbelief in order to not be exposed for his role in that earlier cover-up.
IT'S A CONSPIRACY, MYAAAANNN
Don't forget that time kenobi faked his death and set anakin closer to edge, broke his trust and leaning on Palpatine for support...
Would be interesting if one of his brains was the light side but his other subconscious brain was darkside and made him to darkside things without realizing he's secretly helping the sith.
"kashyyyk has fallen. millions will die."
- ki-adi-mundi
I love my Chudjak memes.
He's responsible for qui gons death imo. I never knew being sinister was a jedi master trait.
Not to mention he just flat out tells a nine year old Anakin who JUST left his mother and was understandably worried if he'd ever see him again...that his attachment to his mother is a bad thing.
Generation Tech, Your daily dose of "Yall need to chill about The Acolyte....respectfully"
I think most people are chill. They are just laughing at this point. We have accepted that Star Wars is a CW show now.
I miss the old Ki adi mundi, where he has a giant family because his species is dying, his master was a sorta light side version of kreia, and his apprentice was a tusken raider
And then he uses their deaths as a lesson to Anakin to suck it up after the horror show that was Jabim.
The old Ki adi mundi was a monster to his family. He literally did not value life at all.
Ki adi mundi has always been a prick, both legends and canon.
@@Inferno361 "The Jedi Code forbids attachments. I cared for them but tried to remain unattached. It was always... difficult." - Ki-Adi-Mundi when talking about his wives and family.
"There is something very touching about them. They look like soldiers; they fight like soldiers; and sometimes they eventalk like soldiers. They have all the finest qualities of the fighting man. But behind that is nothing - no love, no family, no happy memory that comes from having truly lived. When I see one of these men killed, I weep more for him than for any ordinary soldier who has lived a full and normal life." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on the Galactic Marines under his command.
"Greater love has no being than to lay down their life for a friend. Rivi-Anu is now one with the Living Force. It will make me proud to one day join her." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on Jedi knight Rivi-Anu after she sacrificed herself to save Mundi, a number of other Jedi, and their clones.
Ah, yes, these are the words of someone who doesn't value life at all, totally, 100%. Get out of here with that. Unlike what a lot of people seem to think, Mundi actually did care about the lives of others.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Depends who's lives you're talking about. He certainly didn't care about the enemy Geonosians during "Landing at Point Rain". I mean for Anakin and Ahsoka, it's more understandable, since they're young and immature, and mostly fought droids, but for Ki-Adi-Mundi to get involved in the bragging too is pretty off the mark IMO, especially since many of his opponents were living beings.
This show actually reinforces the idea that the jedi were becoming incompetent and corrupt which led to their fall from highness and eventually fall in RoTS.
Remember this was mainly due to Palpatines darkside influence and the Jedi supporting him politically. Their incompetence is portrayed in a reductive and off base manner in the show imo. There’s a smarter way to tell this story that more accurately conveys the problems the Jedi were facing near the end
@@usernameonutube
That may be what led to their downfall, but the Jedi were ethically dubious at best even before Palpatine.
They're an isolationist cult who managed to earn a position of power. Their practice of taking small children to isolate them from their families and teach them to suppress all emotion is already sketchy enough, regardless of what their motivations might be.
@@Moxypony so honestly I’ve heard those arguments before and still find them wildly reductive. I understand those interpretations but I would recommend you read “Hannah dedicates Samuel” in the Bible to better understand the context of the padawans relation to the temple. Also remember Jedi don’t reject all emotion just the passionate and selfish emotions because they are destructive.
@@usernameonutubewhat emotion isn't passionate or selfish? Love is passion, empathy is passionate when deep, joy is passionate, sadness is passionate and often about your own self-interest, anxiety, fear, are self-interested and linked with attachment.
The Jedi don't teach how to healthily balance emotions, just to supress them. And doing blinds you to your own self and you become a puppet of your emotions ironically.
So Mundi lowkey killed qui-gon at this point?
Yes
Yea a character assassination at its finest.
@@Motard.Actualhe was a dick in clone wars.
Yep. He is basically the reason for the downfall of the galaxy, probably because a showrunner can’t do math.
It’s really elevating his stupidity to new levels. If all the Jedi masters are slain as some theorize, then Mundi would know that only a Sith would be powerful enough to slay that many masters. He already knows an unknown master has been training Mae and a Jedi master has been assassinated….
I think "useful idiot" is a good description for Ki-Adi Mundi
Describes what Disney did to many legacy characters. Han, Luke, Obi-Wan, Bail Organa…even Qui Gon.
Useful idiots who got in the way of you-know-who…
Ki Adi Mundi is a psychotic monster. It's literally the only explanation we have at this point. Either that or Mundi is a closet sith.
More like he has some awful luck and timing.
If he wasn’t wacked by order 66 I’d say that’s a plausible theory. Still hilarious to imagine though
@@avathiana866 could be one of palp's failed clones but repurposed.
@@orbaitv5991 or he’s autistic & being completely misunderstood 😅
Closet Sith. Only thing he can do know is somehow return in the Rey movie.
His death was faked. Had to be.
Jar Jar got all the smoke for being a bumbling buffoon.
Mundi is denying the Sith on purpose.
Commander Baccara and his Galactic Marines turned out to be the heroes who finally put down Ki Adi Mundi in Order 66.
Mundi is an elitist. Always brushing off anything and diminishing any inconvenience.
he's also incredibly lazy. sends kenobi off instead of himself. i can only imagine what ben was uttering in his head.
Well you know he has a lot of wives to look after
Sending Yoda to the Wookiees was part of the plan to get Sidious out of hiding. There was a meeting without Anakin because they had figured out the Sith Lord was in Palpatine’s inner circle.
LMFAO "Osha's twin sister NIOSH I mean Mae" may be your best piece of subtle wit yet. Well played, Sir.
Came here to comment this lmao prob flew over a lot of folks head
@@alexbarker6699 Alan must've done some government work at some point lol
“Master Windu, I must speak with you. I’ve discovered a terrible truth…
I believe Master Mundi is _your Mother_ we’ve been looking for” 😂
He was secretly part of the sith. Much like Dooku, Krell and the dark acolytes. Notice how he diverted attention away from the CIS super power projection system on mygetto to the wookies.
i'm a potato...some serious lore implications with Ki-Adi-Mundi's appearance in the recent acolyte series. What do you guys think is this a coverup?
Having the age of his species as a regular human but then changed to different is kind of iffy to me. If you don't want to watch anything related to Star Wars, at least do your research on the characters and lore BEFORE writing new material for it.
At this point it is the only explanation,
I've been forgiving of a lot of the criticisms in this show, but this cameo is becoming my breaking point
It raises a horrifying implication that the Jedi of the prequels saw all these red flags and did nothing for no properly explained reason
there's Hubris and there's just plain stupidity
How can the conehead ... erm Cerean jedi be Ki-Adi-Mundi?
At the time he first met Anakin he was reported to be 60 years old.
The show takes places 100 years before the phantom menace.
@@pbh9195 same feeling
Now that he was born in 93 BBY is now a Legends-only lore. I guess the Cereans in Canon lore could be implying that Cereans could live a lot longer than that of in Legends, since we know little about the Cereans. So it might "make sense" for Ki-Adi Mundi to live longer in Canon
I'm aware that Legends puritan fans are still having a hard time to accept Canon being loosely different from Legends & see it as what it is. Instead, they're still caught up with "what it SHOULD BE" & hate everything they perceive as "retcon"
Never trust a guy with a lightsaber length forehead and personal harem at his disposal.
Ki-Adi Mundi is a psychopath in my psychologist opinion
Huh, neat.
"The Jedi Code forbids attachments. I cared for them but tried to remain unattached. It was always... difficult." - Ki-Adi-Mundi when talking about his wives and family. He actually did very much care for them, he just tried not to because of the Jedi Code.
"There is something very touching about them. They look like soldiers; they fight like soldiers; and sometimes they eventalk like soldiers. They have all the finest qualities of the fighting man. But behind that is nothing - no love, no family, no happy memory that comes from having truly lived. When I see one of these men killed, I weep more for him than for any ordinary soldier who has lived a full and normal life." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on the Galactic Marines under his command.
"Greater love has no being than to lay down their life for a friend. Rivi-Anu is now one with the Living Force. It will make me proud to one day join her." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on Jedi knight Rivi-Anu after she sacrificed herself to save Mundi, a number of other Jedi, and their clones.
Ah, yes, totally the epitome of a psychopath. Get out of here with that.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102I remember that last one from overlord
Mundi definitely shows many traits common in sociopathy. Unlike the guy above, I'm actually working on my doctorate in psychology to be a therapist.
Most Jedi show signs of sociopathy. So do Vulcans. So do Sith. Emotional regulation skills come from actually experiencing your emotions, learning to understand them, and work with them. Jedi seek to block them out completely, which is a form of disassociation associatied with sociopathy... The problems for them arise when their disassociations fail them, and they find themselves completely lacking in any of the healthy forms of emotional regulation skills. Anakin is a prime example of what that looks like, but it happens to the Jedi rather frequently during war time. Just ask Revan's men.
I would remind you that various personality disorder symptoms usually come hand in hand with cptsd trauma, and being abducted as a child and raised in a cult in which you were denied love and proper emotional support causes said trauma disorders. We have sufficient enough documention on the developmental process that this isn't actually a conversation up for debate. This is scientific *fact*. If you want to raise a cult filled with plasma sword wielding emotionally damaged zealots with cptsd and personality disorders, the Jedi method would work 100% of the time in real life according to our current understanding of human psychology, neurology, and developmental biology.
So, all of that is to say... You're all very wrong according to actual science, but for reasons that you probably wouldn't consider.
Also, I grew up in foster care. Kids who grew up in foster care like I did have the world's highest numbers for suicide, crime, and mental illness. That's what not being raised by loving parents actually looks like. And not only do I have the actual education and scientific studies to back it up, but I'm literally from said background. So.... It's over Anakin. I have the moral, scientific, and ontological high ground.
@@redwizardmattread Hannah dedicates Samuel in the Bible. Remember Jedi don’t reject all emotion. They mostly reject selfish passionate emotions as they are shortsighted and destructive. Aka darskide
As an OG Star Wars fan aged 50, I'd love to see you work at LF and work out the cannon. Your perspective is far more in line with the Galaxy far far away. Keep up your great observations.
Yours is the only channel which has managed to 'thread the needle' on this retcon of Ki-Adi-Mundi. I don't plan on watching the series (more so due to the creator and how they helped their former boss), but you mad this plot point make sense.
He incited a riot just by talking. He’s a menace.
Here comes the Ki Adi Mundi Derangement Syndrome.
@@TheDarkLasombra Mundi's clone troopers didn't even know about Order 66 when killing him. It just felt right.
He is the.....phantom menace 😎
@@hazb8026YYEAAAHHH!!!
Thanks for the video! For all fans that reject any production and proposal that the Jedi were flawed and corrupt, just a look at Ki-Adi-Mundi should be enough to change their minds. Yoda himself had many of the flaws he recognized the Jedi had (pride, over-confidence, etc).
Mundi was a dogmatic psychopath in legends too, had his whole family die all 5 wives and 12 daughters and yet he felt nothing and even told Anakin to do the same after the battle of Jabim killed all his friends and Obi-Wan was kidnapped but looked like he was dead.
If Eric Idle was a Jedi Council member, he would’ve said, “Well, what about yourself, Cockface.”
He is the epitome of a psychopath. Just look at these most common signs of a psychopath:
- Pretend to care (this was Mundi. He never actually cared and gave the illusion he did)
- Display cold-hearted behavior (completely disregards the deaths of his innocent wives and daughters, disregards Anakins distress over Obi Wans death)
- Fail to recognize other people's distress (See above: Anakin and also his own daughter who began a criminal career due to his neglect)
- Have relationships that are shallow and fake (His marriages and the para wand he “trained”, along with other Jedi)
Maintain a normal life as a cover for criminal activity (Eh… can’t find evil doer deeds… yet…)
- Fail to form genuine emotional attachments (His life with other Jedi, with his family, citizens and even enemy combatants that he’ll burn alive (literally) to make his job easier)
That’s five out of six red flags right off the bat. How this man was a Jedi is beyond me…
@@venetianjack1348 Anakin was right. Jedi were evil. Just a fanatic death cult.
"The Jedi Code forbids attachments. I cared for them but tried to remain unattached. It was always... difficult." - Ki-Adi-Mundi when talking about his wives and family. He actually did very much care for them, he just tried not to because of the Jedi Code.
"There is something very touching about them. They look like soldiers; they fight like soldiers; and sometimes they eventalk like soldiers. They have all the finest qualities of the fighting man. But behind that is nothing - no love, no family, no happy memory that comes from having truly lived. When I see one of these men killed, I weep more for him than for any ordinary soldier who has lived a full and normal life." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on the Galactic Marines under his command.
"Greater love has no being than to lay down their life for a friend. Rivi-Anu is now one with the Living Force. It will make me proud to one day join her." - Ki-Adi-Mundi on Jedi knight Rivi-Anu after she sacrificed herself to save Mundi, a number of other Jedi, and their clones.
Mundi is not, and has never been, and emotionless psychopath in any way. Why don't you actually try reading some of the stories that involve him instead of spouting off the same nonsense that a lot of CZcamsrs say about Mundi.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Mundi has and always will be what we can diagnose as a clear cut case of a psychopath.
What he says and what he actually does are two very different things. He can say whatever the hell he wants too but does and believes the exact opposite. That’s a psychopath.
Thank you for proving my point, you sanctimonious jack ass.
I'm calling it: Ki-Adi-Mundi is Darth Plagueis!
Watching Acolyte: Oh they have like the Mundi species that’s cool.
Checks credits: huh?
Impressive how you make star wars better.
That"s why I love much more the lore than the official stuff
I love and respect you brother, even when we don't agree. I have been with you for years. Keep it up and stay real to yourself.
Kaimir is 100% the master. Even if you ignore the obvious. If you take the masters voice and pitch it up 3 semitones the sibilance around the letter T is an exact match. That actor has an accent/speech impediment that's very very distinct.
Lucas always saw the Jedi as heroes. Flawed heroes, but still an overwhelming force for good in the galaxy. Star Wars, at least as far as everything except the original trilogy, seems to be about good vs evil, and how even the good guys can be manipulated and make terrible decisions.
It just hit me... he is a Sith. That is why his look when the clone troopers turn on him is not surprise, but bewilderment.
This is rapidly becoming one of my favorite CZcams channels. Been lurking for years, but lately, you’ve really been winning me over, my man. This video is just what I wanted to see - had a similar theory regarding Ki-Adi-Mundi and the potential to recontextualize his presence in the prequel trilogy by having him be involved in a cover up from the ground floor.
"I've heard legends ... of a taco ... made entirely out of Doritos."
If it exists... we will find it.
That's loco
Ive watched star wars content as my primary form of entertainment for about 5 years in total, and as a large portion of what i watch for close to a decade. Usually, people focus on lore or just cover trendy topics that have no substance, but this is one of the first star wars vids in a long time thats gotten me thinking!
I never thought of ki-adi mundi in this way, but your so right! Comparing his lines to the consequences, and knowing his personality...
I just gotta say thank you for making one hell of a video. Lore is super imteresting but shit like this is what really gets me going.
I think Ki-adi-Mundi was subconsciously influenced the sith shrine under the temple. It just always pushed him to publicly deny the possibility of the return of the sith so that their influence could grow.
At first, I thought that he had some type of brain tumor that wasn't being treated...Then I found out he was just an alien. A sociopathic alien.
Vernestra isn't interested in protecting her Jedi family. She's worried about the bad optics the notion that they can't keep their own house in order would have. If people started looking closer, the cover-up of what really happened 16 years prior and her involvement might also come out.
She is a Jedi Master and she's making frantic reactionary moves out of fear. Ya know, like a Jedi.
Dude, I'm sure you read this a lot, but your thoughtful, intelligent commentary soars so far above the normal cheap CZcams rants, that you are without question the best content creator of your genre. Carry on!
Mundi is what happens when Neutral Good becomes Lawful Neutral.
“The Potato 🥔 Jedi”! That’s a good one 😂 !!! I always called him the Cone Head Looking Jedi.
Guy is like 120 in the prequels apparently, no wonder he's senile.
Actually, good world building by Disney.
Tasked failed successfully
“Bring in the flamethrowers!”
As of now Ki Adi Mundi is challenging Pong Krell for "worst Jedi" award
Darth Potato Head. That's why Potato Head is quick to coverup everything. You hear it first here at Generation Tech.
'The Sith are gone for a Millennia' is Ki-Adi-Mundi being a moron not something Yoda or Mace believed.
Absolutely wrong. Watch the movie, they all believe it at the time, Windu says the same. It isn’t until the end after Qui Gon does that Yoda and Windu face the reality of the Sith Return.
@@stevereynolds5684 Yoda and Mace say it's a troubling report and they need to investigate. Only the potatohead dipsh!t believes the sith are gone.
@@stevereynolds5684 Mace and Yoda didn't make any assumptions about the Sith and wanted to investigate. Ki-Adi-Mundi being a dumbass assumed they are gone for 1000 years.
@@jiffypoo5029pretty sure he was just to arrogant to believe the Sith return and we all know that most of the Jedi in recent episode of the Acolyte are going to die and most likely Mai will to so no clear proof for Mr forehand that is if Mrs green girl decides to tell anyone.
@@Scp-682- The thing is, he is always wrong, he is never correct. Ki-Adi-Mundi has a flawless record of being wrong every time. He is famously terrible at his job.
5:42 the novelization reveals the council (without anikan) had already decided to move yoda and kenobi away from the core to try and draw the sith lord out. They simply didn't know palps was the sith and what his gameplan was
What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?
Fagetaboutit
Exactly “what about it”
Mundi's dismissal of Qui-Gon is insidious either way. Either he's covering up the encounter with a Sith 100 years prior, or if the masked person isn't Sith then he's remembering the last time they thought it could be Sith but was just a Dark Jedi/Rouge Witch/etc.
We need to talk about The Acolyte. There is a lot to unpack from Episode 4 as I replayed certain scenes over and over and let’s make predictions for Episode 5. Qimir or not Qimir, that is the question…
Qimir: How do you kill a Jedi without a weapon? It has to be some sort of test, right? You engage unarmed, but you can use their saber if you disarm them? Or is that cheating? I’m just curious how you’re gonna do it this time. You’ve failed so much.
Mae: I didn’t fail. I killed Indara and I killed Torbin.
Qimir: But you killed them “your way.” You have to kill the Wookiee without a weapon. Your Master wants you to..
Mae: What kind of deal did you make with him?
Qimir: I didn’t. Uh, *we* didn’t exactly. I… I just owe him. You know how he is, he collects people.
Mae: I’ve never seen his face. Have you?
Qimir: You know I haven’t. Oh, look, there it is. The perimeter.
I thought when Qimir said *”we* didn’t exactly” after he said *“I* didn’t” to be strange. Is he including Mae as part of the deal? Why say we when Mae was asking him directly? And then listen carefully to how he said “he collects people.” He said *people* in a serious tone the same way he told Mae that “he’d kill you.”
All the tea leaves points to Qimir as Smilo Ren. He changes the topic quickly after Mae asked him if he’s seen the Master’s face. And then his obvious rush to get to Kelnacca (or Kelly as some Redditors call him). Why is Qimir in such a hurry? Because he knows the Jedis are coming? He needs Mae to perform his final task?
Is Qimir the acolyte, the apprentice, or the master? Because that Force push was pretty strong. He seems stronger than being only an acolyte or an apprentice. And he floated down like he’s Batman ‘89. Remember the last time we saw Qimir, he was hanging upside-down from a tree. He had the higher ground the last time we see him.
But what if Qimir is NOT Smilo Ren even though a majority of us already believe it is him? He did disarm Mae rather easily in Ep 2 and already said the first sentence of the Sith code. But why reveal himself? There is a scene right before Qimir got caught in Mae’s trap that it looked like he really was going to fetch her for more water.
Some people are saying he knew it was a trap but I don’t know? It looked genuine right before he got caught upside-down. Mae screamed HELP! and then you see Qimir running towards her with concern in his face. And how he told Mae that he cares. Remember last year when everyone tried to predict who Marrok was in Ahsoka only to find out he’s smoke underneath it?
Say we take his word and Qimir has never seen the Master’s face. Then he’s only assuming the Master is a he. What if it’s a she? I’m also reading from some Redditors believing it’s Vernestra. Why does she keep hiding these missions from the Jedi Council? And some think she sent Sol and that crew on a secret mission so they can kill all the loose ends.
Of course if it’s Vernestra, it may piss off some SW fans who already know her from the recent High Republic comics from 3 years ago which Lesyle is using it as some of her source material + EU. Not to sound mean but Vernestra has a face I want to slap. Rebecca Henderson is Lesyle Headland’s real life wife, but Vernestra has a face I want to slap. Maybe because she’s green and bald. Doesn’t have a trustworthy face.
I saw one Redditor thinks it’s Indara and that she didn’t really die after that opening scene. That she’s the Master. BTW, Manny Jacinto is listed at 5’11 while both Carrie-Anne Moss and Rebecca Henderson are both listed at 5’9. If Trinity is the Sith Lord all along after we all thought she died in the first episode would be quite hilarious. 😂 She could survive that small knife wound if Reva and Sabine can survive lightsaber cuts through their bodies.
Let’s say Qimir is Smilo Ren and is the acolyte. He’s using Mae to perform his last test of killing a Jedi without a weapon. That’s why he was in such a rush for Mae to get to Kelnacca. But he killed Kelnacca with a lightsaber. He’s not passing his final test. Mae didn’t technically kill Torbin. He chose death. The poison could be considered a weapon or not but he chose to die. Mae didn’t kill him. I don’t understand Qimir revealing himself against 8 Jedis when he could’ve just left the scene if he knew Mae had a change of heart and was going to rat on him.
I do agree with Star Wars Meg that The Acolyte should’ve dropped all episodes entirely ala Stranger Things. I grew up watching LOST (2004-2010) years before The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones, so I can understand the frustrations waiting a week to find out what happens next. A new generation may not have the patience for a mystery show dropping one episode per week.
It’s actually quite unfair to judge The Acolyte because we are essentially looking at a puzzle 🧩 with missing pieces to the big picture. It would be like judging only the first half of Knives Out, Glass Onion, Death on the Nile, Clue, or any Scooby-Doo episode before we get to the final reveal. The Acolyte is basically a *whodunit* series. I’m not saying it’s great but it is quite unfair to judge it knowing it’s hiding a lot of things from the viewers.
Alex from The Angry Joe Show said the one who killed Kelnacca was Bazil. I know he said it in jest but it was quite peculiar to see Bazil right before Mae found Kelnacca dead. He was not seen for most of that episode. Then we finally see him, Mae finds out Kelnacca is dead. We definitely got robbed not seeing Kelnacca not getting into a fight. What a jip! We get excited seeing a Wookiee Jedi after Ep 2 and we still didn’t get to see him fight for his life using a lightsaber. 🤦🏻 So wrong.
The show does look quite cheap. Now where they filmed Khofar was somewhere in Madeira, Portugal. It was quite beautiful but then there are certain scenes to this show that looks bland and cheap. I don’t feel the immersion from it. Coruscant looks bland to me. It looks like a ghost town and it’s only 100 years before TPM. Where’s all the flying ships and tall skyscrapers surrounding the Jedi Temple? A hundred years difference is not going to make Coruscant look that bland and dead.
The Acolyte costs $180M when it looks worse than Ahsoka at $105M. Heck, worse than Godzilla Minus One at only $15M. House of the Dragon revealed it’s first episode from Season 2 and that episode at around $20M looks 10x better than The Acolyte. Ahsoka used tons of Volume but I consider it the 2nd best looking among the SW Disney+ series behind Andor ($250M). Some shots in The Acolyte looks like something out of a Star Trek TV series.
I don’t agree with Meg’s opinion from yesterday that the Star Wars Prequels looks far better than the Disney+ series. Only Revenge of the Sith still looks decent today but The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones have showed their age after 22-25 years. Check TPM’s scene between the Gungans vs. Droid Army. Very little green texture. Then AOTC’s Battle of Geonosis looks even more awful to me now than it did in 2002.
The SW Disney+ looks better to me because it is mixing real location, Volume, and green/blue screens while the Prequels relied on most of the latter although I did visit The Plaza de España in Seville, Spain. It’s the scene when Anakin is holding Padmé’s luggages in AOTC. That was one of the biggest complaints of the Prequels. Most of the backgrounds didn’t feel real. It was like the actors were put in an animated movie or some video game from the PlayStation 3 era.
Episode 5 Predictions?
The obvious one is 5 of those 8 Jedis not named Sol, Yord, and Jecki will be redshirted and should be killed right away from Smilo Ren. But what happens then? Call me Chato predicts Sol will be captured and it becomes a rescue mission for Mae and Osha. Or what if Osha is captured and it’s a rescue mission for Sol, Mae, Yord, and Jecki? Or if it’s called Night, Sol (meaning Sun ☀️) dies in it?
Smilo didn’t kill Mae but Smilo seemed to toss her away pretty easily with the Force. I think Smilo is going to use her to turn. Maybe that’s why the reveal. Since Episode 4 left us with a major cliffhanger, I think Episode 5’s viewership is going to spike up. As bad as The Acolyte has been, people are still curious who is Smilo Ren and who really killed the lesbian witch coven that we didn’t see in the previous flashback episode since we only saw it from Osha’s perspective. What are the Jedi hiding? Why did Torbin feel so guilty?
My money is on Vernestra but I think it’s 90% Qimir. But I want to bet on a longshot. Everyone was dead wrong on Marrok last year. Vernestra is still a fairly new character from the comics/novels. If it’s her, I don’t think fans would get too mad. Now the person who killed the witch coven may not be Smilo Ren. That could be a different character. Manny Jacinto is 38-years-old. But his character might be younger in this series and might be too young to commit killing the witch coven.
Smilo Ren?
90% Qimir
2% Vernestra
2% Koril
2% Aniseya
2% Indara
1% Sol’s evil twin
1% Bazil
Here’s Vernestra’s convo with Sol. A way of trying to throw us off?
Vernestra: I fear Mae is only a small part of her Master’s larger plan. A plan that is difficult to see. Some sort of shift. Something to tip the scales.
Vernestra might be the Master and Qimir is Smilo Ren as either the Acolyte or her Apprentice. Episode 5 titled, Night, might be the banger episode we’ve been waiting for! Or it could still stink it up as usual….
What if the last four episodes kicks some serious ass? That’s quite a shift from hating it to loving it. From worst to best in a hurry. It’s like the Prequels, GameCube, and Kobe Bryant during their prime. Hated back in the day but beloved now from a generation who grew up on them.
thousands, maybe 10,000 Jedi spread across a massive galaxy, it's not unreasonable to assume one Jedi might have "turned to the Dark Side", but not so quick to assume their a "Sith"; "Sith" is a doctrine, and the Jedi, and Ki Adi Mundi don't have enough hard info to assume "Sith",; the members of the Jedi Order may be Jedi, but they aren't omniscient.
This is really a spectacular video and catch. I am embarrassed to admit that I haven't ever thought as critically and dubiously about Mundi as I do now having seen this. And this includes his Acolyte persona! Nothing is random. That doesn't mean everything is intentional either; but it really all fits itself together and you've caught an important idea here.
Nice work. Really enjoyed it!
"The Sith have been extinct for a millennium." "He's a political idealist. Not a murderer."
For a guy with such a big head. He can be wrong about a lot of things.
Love how most of the people that hate the acolyte accept everything mundi says as an absolute truth like if the jedi and these paragons of truth. Especially ki adi mundi of all jedi the reaction to this show is genuinely crazy and disheartening really like yhe whow though
Great video. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Alan, your videos always hopeful
You have given us much to consider in the grand scheme of Star Wars canon. Also in how much we should really cry when Ki Adi Mundi gets turned on by his Clone Troopers during Order 66.
I feel like the opening is a bit of a set up when you say portrayal as less than perfect. The problem is they went from flawed heroes to possible villians and complete idiots at best
That High Council line leads me to believe That Jedi Diesel isn't in charge of all the jedi, just perhaps a portion of the ones that operate out of Coruscant, and that group isn't meeting in secret, but is instead just a smaller ruling body.
And Yeah, Ki-Adi-Mundi is a lowkey Sith.
Ki-Adi-Mundi’s second brain is a Sith Lord pulling the strings.
Ki-Subtracti-Mundi
It makes sense that Sidious would have someone on the inside, to keep the council off his trail. At times i thought it could’ve been Windu except Windu tried to kill him. So Mundi would make sense
"Only Sith deal in absolutes!" ..... and the Jedi... "Do or Do not" ... there are plenty of examples of a Jedi using absolutes in the vast lore of Star Wars.
You just made Ki-Adi-Mundi one of my new favorite characters
You brought up a good point about Absolutes, that is pretty much all the Jedi deal in. The scene in Attack of the Clones where Jocasta Nu tell Obi-Wan that if Kamino doesn’t exist in the Jedi Archives, it must not be a real place. Even though the evidence that Obi-Wan has saying it is there.
If the population of the Star Wars galaxy is 100 quadrillion, as Google claims, and the average lifespan is 100 years, then on average 1.9 BILLION die each minute. That's the entire human population of Alderaan.
The Council wanted to get rid of Yoda from the temple, somewhere far away, in order to bait out Palpatine's plan and make Palpatine see the Jedi as vulnerable to enact his plan - which is what exactly happened, however, the Jedi underestimated Anakin's influence.
This made me think about his actions during the prequels, and even his reaction during order 66 in ROTS. Maybe the look of shock on his face in that scene wasn’t about the clones turning, but it was more like the look of shock on Count Dooku when Palpatine said “DO IT”… maybe he’s been part of the plan to overthrow the Jedi since the beginning (an Acolyte working within the order) and in that moment he was shocked that Sidious turned on him as well.
Ki was so messed up that if Bacara had refused for some reason to execute order 66, then Ki would have probably just called him defective. Bacara hated him enough that it was barely a second thought to gun him down, before going back to the battle. It says something that while most clone commanders respected their jedi generals, even if they didn't like them much... Bacara and Ki never seemed to think of eachother with anything more than condescension and disdain.
Every time Mundi speaks, the Jedi and republic fall and an empire and the Sith rise from the ashes
I know the overall consistency and pacing of the Acolyte episodes have been a bit all over the place, but I’m really digging this backstory and insight that it provides into the Jedi. It gives so much to think about and allows us to further speculate on why the Jedi Order does the things it does moving forward.
There is definitely a cover up going on. The main "mystery" from The Phantom Menace I want The Acolyte to address: How does Yoda and Mace Windu KNOW about the Sith "Rule of Two". If Darth Bane was the lone Sith who survived in SECRET...and created the "Rule of Two" in SECRET...for the express purpose of keeping the existence of the Sith a SECRET, how does Yoda know ALL ABOUT IT. Yoda even reveals in The Clone Wars S6 when he confronts Darth Bane's "ghost" that he knows it was Darth Bane that established the "Rule of Two". Did the events being depicted in The Acolyte reveal the Sith to the Jedi and they learned of the "Rule of Two", but certain members in the High Council cover it up? Thinking that 2 Sith just weren't a significant "threat"? Or thinking that they were "dealt with" in the events of this show? Something definitely happened that changed the Jedi from being the most powerful institution in the galaxy going wherever they want with no real oversight and a Jedi stationed in almost every city, town, village, settlement on every inhabited world to being almost exclusively to Coruscant and only acting at the behest of the Senate. And maybe the events of the show explain why the High Council where amazingly "meh" when Qui-Gon presented "The Chosen One" to them. Even Qui-Gon, a master Jedi who has butted heads with the council in the past, and can "see things before they happen" is SHOCKED when they are like "Pass. We good. We don't need a 'Chosen One". :P
And how would Kenobi know that a Sith "only deals in absolutes?"
@@tenn_ore Probably because he fought 2 of them before fighting Anakin on Mustafar....🤔
In the bane novels, there are hundreds of sith artifacts and holocrons scattered throughout the galaxy which bane tracks down to gain knowledge and power. He states the jedi had a monopoly on hoarding most of the artifacts. In the 1000 years since bane’s death the jedi may have tracked down some sort of holocron or piece of information
"What about the droid attack? Why do you care so much about Wook- oh my Father!"
Ki-Adi-Mundi suffered the same fate as many characters from the OT and Prequels.
Disney ran out of ideas, so they murdered his reputation for a momentary synthetic “reveal”.
He joins Han, Luke, Obi-Wan, Bail Organa, Annakin and Qui-Gon next to Leia under that dirty sheet.
In what kind of dream world paradise did you record this video goddamn
Love your work brother
These are always entertaining and insightful.
Best Characters From The Acolyte
1. Smilo Ren/Qimir (all one minute of him)
2. Sol
3. Aniseya
4. Mae (older)
5. Osha
6. Yord
Charlie from Emergency Awesome is correct. Yord is comparable to Syril in Andor. Uptight and always plays by the book. I don’t care for Osha and Jecki’s lesbian romance. So to differentiate Mae from Osha, Amandla wears similar wigs but Osha’s hair is shorter. Mae’s hair is shorter at the front but longer in the back.
Almost every male SW fan wants a character who looks like a badass and wants him to use a lightsaber like a badass which includes a man child like Star Wars Theory who wants Revenge of the Sith be redone 100 more times. Male SW fans were jizzing who Marrok would turn out to be. That’s all male SW fans wants. They want lightsaber duels and the character looks cool doing it. Usually a white person like Hayden and they want him to twirl a lightsaber like *Carly* *King* and Ray Park. Carly King is loving The Acolyte. Let’s not hate her for enjoying it.
*Sister* *Sage:* Ryan is the first natural-born superhero. And his brand needs to reflect that. He’s not one of Vought’s lab rat freaks. He was chosen - by fate, God, whatever- to be the one who saves the world.
*Homelander:* Yes. But let’s not forget why he is special. Shall we? He’s my son. Chosen by God, sure, but, uh… made by me.
*Sister* *Sage:* The chosen one narrative only works if he stands alone. Harry Potter. Neo. Luke Skywalker. Hollywood’s trained people to fall in love with *white* *boy* *lone* *saviors.* So, America will want to fall in love with Ryan.
Technically, Luke isn’t the Chosen One but he was the reason why Anakin killed Palpatine (or supposedly if you ignore Episode IX). All this bring balance to the Force is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. That explanation of the Force needing light and dark is so vague and esoteric. To me, Luke was the hero of the Original Trilogy because he could’ve killed his dad but he chose not to. *Love* from a father and son was the real hero of the OG Trilogy.
Whining about lore breaking….
They showed fire in space!
Mae & Osha undermines Anakin’s birth!
Ki-Adi-Mundi broke TPM’s canon!
Google search Star Wars plot holes from Yoda training Obi-Wan and not Qui-Gon to Leia seeing her dead mother to having complete amnesia for C-3PO and R2-D2. Why did Obi-Wan take 3 years to send Luke to Yoda? How come the Millennium Falcon wasn’t properly scanned? Vader can’t sense that’s his daughter he’s torturing and had captured twice? Why did Yoda give up so easily in ROTS when he already had the higher ground on Sidious? Why did it take a year to rescue Han from Jabba’s palace?
It’s George Lucas making up stuff along the way. George has broke his own canon by adding characters that weren’t there. Ahsoka was the biggest unnecessary addition and Dave Filoni sure loves his baby girl, his waifu. Anakin wasn’t ranked Master yet and he still had his own padawan. She’s basically Rey before Rey. The closest to having live action Mara Jade. Ahsoka was hated early on. Then The Clone Wars got better and now she’s even more beloved than Leia and Padmé.
Star Wars is not high art. There’s going to be bozo writing like how Jar Jar keeps getting promoted for higher government jobs. Or how Obi-Wan changes his first name to Ben but keeps his last name and hides Vader’s son in Anakin’s home planet with Ani’s own stepbrother and wife while Luke still uses the same last name. So much inconsistencies in the writing dating back to A New Hope.
Star Wars is not coming from Coppola, Scorsese, or Nolan. It’s not Oppenheimer. Treat it like the next Jurassic movie. High expectations is why Star Wars gets judged so harshly compared to something like Star Trek when all Star Wars is involves space monks/samurais with telekinesis and laser swords.
😂😂😂
But seriously, what *about* the droid attack on the Wookies?
its kinda funny how allan will adjust his hair but make sure to leave a few strands hanging for that shabby chic aesthetic.
wow very good video - really interesting perspectives and summary of the state of the jedi order during the pre-prequel time.
The Galactic Marines were right to execute Orders 66 on Ki Adi Mundi. He truly was a traitor at heart.
I seriously doubt that a character we barely saw, in a movie 25 years ago, was written to have such an impact in today’s story. If anything, they’re retconning his species and character to fit that narrative.
the green diesel is hilarious 😂
keep up the great videoes
They changed Ki-Adi-Mundi’s birthdate to 132 years BBY, the exact date the events in _The Acolyte_ take place… meaning Mundi is 0 years old at the time of his cameo….
and like the shill we now see him for he isnt talking about it and ignoring it.
Headcanon he is a very old articulate baby man, fully grown
* *looks at Mace Windu* *
Good relationship with the Wookies I have😎
Wow. That background looks so beautiful. I’m a little jelly. Grape jelly.
"Green Diesel." Sure Allen, you were referencing Vernestra Rwoh's "steadfast focus." Though, she is obviously high minded. Wink wink...
i wasn't even thinking that lmao... i would've said sour instead
@@GenerationTech Heh heh. A much better choice. Plus, I posit that would fit Rwoh as well. ✌
Considering Mundi was born 30-40 years after the acolyte, something doesn’t add up here
My new working theory is that mundi and vermstra are in cahoots and that vernestra is actually the sith Lord or the sith collaborator and Monday either finds out or is complicit!