This reminds me a lot of Eli Manning. He was great when it came to utilizing everyone on his offense and being a leader despite his flaws. He has some stinker seasons but those two superbowl runs and especially the first superbowl itself with the pass to Tyree was straight magic..most excting moment in Sports for me. Also noteworthy of his ability to keep it together and centered in the midst of a difficult NY market.
This is why Canadian have and breed the greatest hockey players. They’re nice and humble, most of the time they know the game of hockey symbolizes life and what you put into hockey is what it gives back. It’s heartbreaking losing those big games, but that’s life. You win some you lose some.
im ruined because of my dad he played pro hockey for over 10 years in the nhl stanley cups and all and im so fucked up from his narcissistic personality and needing me to succeed in life to rub off well on him, was and always has been about him on my life. He looks at me as an extension of him rather than seeing me as an individual and emotionally supporting me. He would be irrate if i didnt play well and would treat me poorly if I played bad. He held me to such a high standard at such a young age and this competitivness ruined me as i would choose winning over friendships and now I have no urge to compete in anything. This is very well put by Jordan. I just wanted to share first hand experience of what growing up with a parent jordan explained. pretty brutal, support your kids
Best advice I ever heard about hockey ever. Hockey parents are some of the worst examples of parenting ever. I don't know why hockey brings out so many belligerent, bullying, uncouth people. So many other sports don't do that. It is strange how some sports draw certain kinds of people. Not saying all hockey parents are like this of course. But you have to realize that hockey predicates itself on intimidation and that is a terrible way to engage in sports. That's the problem. Nobody wants to get creamed against the boards. You're wearing hockey pads not football pads. Hockey thrives on bullying, pure and simple. Until they ban violence in hockey and its punished severely nothing will change. Now its a classless activity that attracts a lot of boorish thugs that aren't in prison yet.
My brother and I played sports year round. How is this a difficult concept? "It doesn't matter if you win or lose it's how you play the game", translates to "idc if you won the game bc the ref didn't see that dirty play" or "It doesn't matter that you lost, you still shake your opponent's hand after and say good game. You can pout and second guess every play in the car. Maybe they got lucky or maybe your best wasn't enough that night but it's not right to ruin the other team's win."
I'll be honest that I like Jordan Peterson for most topics, but i couldn't really get a reading on how he was trying to explain himself here, he actually seemed abit lost in his argument. I simply understood from a young age, that you don't act like a d*ck in sports because its just for fun and is not actually a real life event or anything, and if it is just a game, it has no effect on reality if you win or lose, so I always knew not to care if I lost, and not to go all crazy if I won. Sometimes I didn't even want to play tbh, I was like "wow, I have hockey". My easiest way of saying what he said, is just to focus on your teams stuff and whatever success your team gets, and aren't teams striving to win the championship anyways? Whenever I see a bad hockey parent, it's not only that the parent is just a bad role model at the rink, the parent is just a bad role model, and the kid has his parents genes anyways, so growing up, I played all sorts of spazoid kids whose parents were the smoking shoutaholics. Couldn't really understand what he meant about how a game isn't a game, because quite literally, games are games, you can try looking at hockey like it's something bigger then that (which it can bring alot of kids and parents together and form friendships), but it is a game, is it not? I understand how
Don't sell yourself short... the subject is profound and can ostensibly go back to the Adam & Eve days. In particular, were they ethically right to take another's fruit to gratify their selfish need, without first considering the ramifications and repercussions.
JP [Bad Hockey Dad]: 'It doesn't matter if you win or lose, it matters how you play the game, that is really complicated, be a good sport, life is not a game, a game is not a game, winning a championship and winning a game are not the same thing, the star was annoyed, the refs didn't ref right, the dad was ruining his son, like is a sequence of championship, character is a strategy, don't teach your kid to win, so he is fun to play with, if he is fun to play with he will have friends, do well at life, we are obsessed with sports, we don't like narcissist, you are not a role model, we are looking for character...' [Is this supposed to be profound? Don't teach your kid to win? Why not? You can teach your kid to become great at some sport and also teach them to be a good sport and have friends. I guess that is a bit complicated for Dr. Pretenderson, but he said it was really, really complicated... for him anyway.]
I’ve played hockey in every major region of the US, and for some reason the worst parents in America are in Lake Tahoe.
i love listening to jordan dude gives me goose bumps he puts into words what i cannot
This reminds me a lot of Eli Manning. He was great when it came to utilizing everyone on his offense and being a leader despite his flaws. He has some stinker seasons but those two superbowl runs and especially the first superbowl itself with the pass to Tyree was straight magic..most excting moment in Sports for me. Also noteworthy of his ability to keep it together and centered in the midst of a difficult NY market.
This is why Canadian have and breed the greatest hockey players. They’re nice and humble, most of the time they know the game of hockey symbolizes life and what you put into hockey is what it gives back. It’s heartbreaking losing those big games, but that’s life. You win some you lose some.
I hope you remember to pause "
Mango I had the worst of the hockey parents.
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im ruined because of my dad he played pro hockey for over 10 years in the nhl stanley cups and all and im so fucked up from his narcissistic personality and needing me to succeed in life to rub off well on him, was and always has been about him on my life. He looks at me as an extension of him rather than seeing me as an individual and emotionally supporting me. He would be irrate if i didnt play well and would treat me poorly if I played bad. He held me to such a high standard at such a young age and this competitivness ruined me as i would choose winning over friendships and now I have no urge to compete in anything. This is very well put by Jordan. I just wanted to share first hand experience of what growing up with a parent jordan explained. pretty brutal, support your kids
Best advice I ever heard about hockey ever. Hockey parents are some of the worst examples of parenting ever. I don't know why hockey brings out so many belligerent, bullying, uncouth people. So many other sports don't do that. It is strange how some sports draw certain kinds of people. Not saying all hockey parents are like this of course. But you have to realize that hockey predicates itself on intimidation and that is a terrible way to engage in sports. That's the problem. Nobody wants to get creamed against the boards. You're wearing hockey pads not football pads. Hockey thrives on bullying, pure and simple. Until they ban violence in hockey and its punished severely nothing will change. Now its a classless activity that attracts a lot of boorish thugs that aren't in prison yet.
Ha! I'm sending this to all of the parents of the kids that I coach.
My brother and I played sports year round. How is this a difficult concept? "It doesn't matter if you win or lose it's how you play the game", translates to "idc if you won the game bc the ref didn't see that dirty play" or "It doesn't matter that you lost, you still shake your opponent's hand after and say good game. You can pout and second guess every play in the car. Maybe they got lucky or maybe your best wasn't enough that night but it's not right to ruin the other team's win."
I'll be honest that I like Jordan Peterson for most topics, but i couldn't really get a reading on how he was trying to explain himself here, he actually seemed abit lost in his argument. I simply understood from a young age, that you don't act like a d*ck in sports because its just for fun and is not actually a real life event or anything, and if it is just a game, it has no effect on reality if you win or lose, so I always knew not to care if I lost, and not to go all crazy if I won. Sometimes I didn't even want to play tbh, I was like "wow, I have hockey". My easiest way of saying what he said, is just to focus on your teams stuff and whatever success your team gets, and aren't teams striving to win the championship anyways? Whenever I see a bad hockey parent, it's not only that the parent is just a bad role model at the rink, the parent is just a bad role model, and the kid has his parents genes anyways, so growing up, I played all sorts of spazoid kids whose parents were the smoking shoutaholics. Couldn't really understand what he meant about how a game isn't a game, because quite literally, games are games, you can try looking at hockey like it's something bigger then that (which it can bring alot of kids and parents together and form friendships), but it is a game, is it not? I understand how
Joe has no grasp of team sports
Don't sell yourself short... the subject is profound and can ostensibly go back to the Adam & Eve days. In particular, were they ethically right to take another's fruit to gratify their selfish need, without first considering the ramifications and repercussions.
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I struggle to see anything original here, lol.
JP [Bad Hockey Dad]: 'It doesn't matter if you win or lose, it matters how you play the game, that is really complicated, be a good sport, life is not a game, a game is not a game, winning a championship and winning a game are not the same thing, the star was annoyed, the refs didn't ref right, the dad was ruining his son, like is a sequence of championship, character is a strategy, don't teach your kid to win, so he is fun to play with, if he is fun to play with he will have friends, do well at life, we are obsessed with sports, we don't like narcissist, you are not a role model, we are looking for character...' [Is this supposed to be profound? Don't teach your kid to win? Why not? You can teach your kid to become great at some sport and also teach them to be a good sport and have friends. I guess that is a bit complicated for Dr. Pretenderson, but he said it was really, really complicated... for him anyway.]
Bruh
Joe has no grasp of team sports