Analogue TV standards - SECAM vs. PAL in weak signal conditions

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  • čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
  • In the time of the very last analogue TV-transmissions 2023, to tune your TV-DX-equipment... SECAM /PAL in weak signal conditions.
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Komentáře • 39

  • @andreasaggel2827
    @andreasaggel2827 Před 9 měsíci +29

    The classic color "fire" in weak SECAM TV signals !

  • @joew9608
    @joew9608 Před 6 měsíci +8

    So happy such niche stuff I'm interested in is on youtube

  • @purplrshadowyay
    @purplrshadowyay Před 3 měsíci +3

    PAL (mainly used in europe and parts of south america) seems to have a better weak signal reception while SECAM (used in asia and most of africa) has more vivid colors (but with them comes a worse signal) and "fire" instead of "snow"

  • @15bits
    @15bits Před 9 měsíci +15

    SECAM Fire vs. PAL... Snow?

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Před 7 měsíci +1

      Snow is pretty fitting. Here in Germany, TV static is usually called "Schnee", which is literally just "snow". Not that most people still get to see any of it with analog being gone entirely since 2019 when analog cable was shut down pretty abruptly (within a month, with no prior warning)

    • @Alozhatos
      @Alozhatos Před 6 měsíci +2

      Both PAL and NTSC were snow. Except NTSC can create wrong colour.

    • @whaka54000
      @whaka54000 Před 2 měsíci +1

      vs. pal desaturation :)
      snow is common to all standards. but secam keep saturation level right but get red streaking all over palce when things are going very weak, but on real broadcasting conditions, it wasn't so annoying, only in dark/white area.
      but you can see saturation level is lower in pal when things are going weak.

    • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
      @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Před měsícem +1

      @@AlozhatosPAL-M also have same frame rate with NTSC, PAL-N uses same frame rate as PAL but in different color

  • @Nicholas_Chris
    @Nicholas_Chris Před 9 měsíci +8

    I tested PAL and NTSC 3.58 with an RCA to RF Converter on a multisystem TV. On 60 Hz the analog video output is NTSC, and 50 Hz is PAL. PAL has the best analog picture compared with NTSC. Good thing that Europe choosed PAL and not NTSC. We never had SECAM only PAL in the analog days. What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color. And PAL 60 is in black and white on a PAL and NTSC TV, you need a PAL 60 TV. Of course the Multisystem TVs don't have a problem, you just set AUTO and the TV will do the job or you can manually chanege the video mode untill the picture is in color but AUTO is much better.

    • @oldtvnut
      @oldtvnut Před 8 měsíci +2

      "What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color." You should not only find it strange, you should suspect something wrong with your equipment if you are missing some colors.

    • @Nicholas_Chris
      @Nicholas_Chris Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@oldtvnut My TV has 4 video systems, PAL, SECAM, NTSC 3.58 and NTSC 4.43. On PAL the picture is perfect, on NTSC 3.58 the picture is very good if the STB is on NTSC format. Of course PAL has better picture than NTSC 3.58. Many people noticed that when the video signal is on PAL, if you switch from PAL to NTSC 4.43 there is no red and pink color, on SECAM NTSC 3.58 the picture is obivously black and white. When the video is NTSC the picture is great on NTSC 3.58 but on PAL, SECAM and even NTSC 4.43 the picture is black and white.
      My question is what was the purpose of NTSC 4.43 since North America and some parts of Asia use NTSC 3.58 format? Never had a VCR/DVD/STB that outputs NTSC 4.43 format only PAL and NTSC 3.58.
      P.S. I had the oportunity to test a North American VCR in Europe. I only needed a Power converter to use the VCR. We use 230V, 50 Hz instead of 120V 60Hz. And an RCA to SCART adapter. When I connected the VCR to my TV which is a PAL TV. The picture looked great, the video format on my TV was set on AUTO, but when I changed the video format I've seen that the NTSC 3.58 format is best for American VCRs and some devices that optuts video signal at 60 Hz instead of 50Hz. Also my TV is compatible with PAL 60 a video format only used in Latin America and is similar to NTSC 3.58

    • @user-zk3uj7dx6k
      @user-zk3uj7dx6k Před 8 měsíci +2

      Pal daki normal renkler NTSC de mavi rengi pembemsi gösterir mavi rengi biraz yeşile yakın verir .

    • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
      @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Před 7 měsíci +3

      Europe and Africa uses SECAM and PAL.

    • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
      @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Před 7 měsíci +2

      Armed Forces Network TV in Germany uses NTSC.

  • @oong_12yearsold
    @oong_12yearsold Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why it have a circle on EBU BARS?

  • @MrFiver1111
    @MrFiver1111 Před 7 měsíci +4

    The second one looks more stable, is that one PAL or SECAM?

    • @OrangeShellGaming
      @OrangeShellGaming Před 7 měsíci +6

      The one with blue/red artifacts ("SECAM fire") is SECAM, so the second one is PAL.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Před 7 měsíci +3

      what OrangeShellGaming said. Also note how the colors on PAL are less intense when the signal is weak. That's one "sort of" advantage of SECAM... the colors are either there and vibrant (even if the signal is weak, you just get this "fire" of (mostly) red flares ontop), or the color is gone entirely/BW

    • @purplrshadowyay
      @purplrshadowyay Před 3 měsíci +1

      it's PAL (Let's go europe got a better standard for weak signals)

  • @SBTKostya2008
    @SBTKostya2008 Před 29 dny

    SECAM: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
    PAL: ❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️

  • @user-zk3uj7dx6k
    @user-zk3uj7dx6k Před 8 měsíci

    RGB nin haricinde Secam da Sarı renk gönderilmesi farktır.

  • @ryantoomey611
    @ryantoomey611 Před měsícem

    You compared SECAM and PAL but what about NTSC? How does NTSC compare?

  • @Dacat4567
    @Dacat4567 Před 6 měsíci +2

    What are you using at 0:00

    • @koekone
      @koekone  Před 6 měsíci +2

      I started with SECAM :-)

    • @Dacat4567
      @Dacat4567 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I mean what machine are you using? But thank you for the reply

    • @mistake0123456789
      @mistake0123456789 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Dacat4567It looks like some test device from the PM 541x -family. Perhaps PM 5418 TD

  • @andrewxyk99
    @andrewxyk99 Před měsícem

    Secam looks better. Wondered Why it wasn't worldwide standard?

  • @t0nito
    @t0nito Před 18 dny +1

    SECAM looks worse with all that colour bleeding everywhere

  • @user-lv5vk2np4m
    @user-lv5vk2np4m Před 7 měsíci

    SECAM pal vs ntsc

  • @wbtcpip
    @wbtcpip Před 3 měsíci

    secam was better

    • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
      @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Před měsícem

      System L (France and nearby border of Luxembourg) vs system K (overseas France and former French colonies in Africa)