What are INTJs like? | Community Response
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- In today's video I respond to a question left by a subscriber and talk about how INTJs are likely to be as well as some of my personal traits.
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Finally. An INTJ CZcamsr that’s actually a real INTJ.
*cough* LiJo *cough*
@@tmodoctor Hello
LiJo hello Clarice
There's another youtuber you might like, (intj island). Your definitely rite about that; to many youtubers who are not intj's. I don't know why some perceivers, & feelers think they're intj's.
@@InternetLiJo you're definitely not intj
What are INTJs like?...Awesome, that's what! This video is very accurate; INTJs never act shocked or disapproving when I'm sharing my many, many strong and sometimes unconventional opinions (INTP). I find them to be very non-flashy with their intelligence and very receptive to all kinds of ideas and information. They are also misunderstood a lot, and even mistreated, which is super annoying and whenever I witness it, my Ti likes to quickly slap the offender down. Also, INTJs are super helpful and caring; they tend to improve the lives of those around them enormously. Yes, INTJs are often focused on personal growth, which is just so...refreshing. Thanks for the video!
Thank you! Likewise, my best friend is an INTP and it's a breath of fresh air to have someone who is able to follow logical thought and symbolism so seamlessly. Plus, us INTJ's love how laid back INTP's generally are.
when you are the only adult in the room. all the other children tend to use/ abuse you to fix the problems they don't want to deal with.
Really i totally agree with you ...my best friend is an intp we get along very well
i agree with all the things you said especially with the misunderstood and mistreated part. -intj
Thanks for seeing me 😭😭
I don't relate to the stereotype that INTJs have the next 30 years of their lives planned out. For me, as long as my direction in life is good, I'm happy. Over planning leads to disappointments when circumstances change around you.
INTJs are more concerned about the direction the world is headed and where things will be in the future more than any other type. If you've ever spent time with one you'd see how they are able to project far into the future by understanding the cause and effect of every little thing that's connected. The INTJ I know has been like this since he was an infant, his focus on the future is unlike any other person I've ever met. Obviously a lot of mistypes can't relate. If you're not extremely concerned with the upcoming collapse of civilisation, the effects of climate change and how it will drive mass migrations, food shortages and war, you're not an Ni-dom.
The idea of a fully laid out 30 year plan seems crazy to me too, but knowing where I want to be in 30 years and how to get there is comforting to know.
I need to learn to plan less maybe. But I tend to have a plan for my whole life loosely mapped out at all times (actually several different ones to account for different possibilities). I am constantly moving towards them and reanalyzing with each shift which plan to move forward with and how best to do so.
@@AmigaCammy also deep into history. Why things are the way they are & how it takes generations for things to change.
You know when I was a kid, I have some sort of gerascophobia (old age) from time to time and don't wanna feel like I wanna die within the next 100 years, tho while I remember that part of childhood, I've mostly swept it under the rug, really.
Sure Asura is INTJ, but he is also an INTJ whisperer, haha.
I’m an INTJ, and I was very surprised at how you perfectly explained the part about deadlines because that it exactly how I do my work. People often ask me how I got so much sleep when I was doing my architectural thesis, but I never understood why they didn’t get any sleep at all considering the amount of time they gave us.
I can relate with you as an Architecture student once. I'm no longer in the field now, but I remember a lot of good memories in that course for the simple fact that I was very chill. I could not relate to the grind others were experiencing. I even have a lot of free-time to pursue a freelancing job online when I turned 18, which later became my full-time job. And of course, I had the power to sleep for as long as I want. Still the same today.
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I'm glad that you discuss INTJ humor. The more absurd or contradictory something is, the funnier I generally find it to be. Non sequiturs are my favorite type of humor. Gary Larson, anyone?
omg yesss i have the anatidaephobia cartoon framed at home 😆
I know, right?! The most absurd and non-rational or logical humor is exactly my taste.
Hello, 65 yo INTJ lady here. You have explained so many things in this video I wish more people (especially feelers) knew, but as you said, they typically see the Te part, which is more interested in communicating information, not emotional content. I am extremely introverted so, I guess you'd say, the kind, relaxed, curious, part of me doesn't show. Not sure if this is true of most INTJs (or maybe it's because I'm a 5w4 enneagram type) but I am very tolerant and accepting of people. I enjoy being around eccentric people. My sister (an INFJ) said I suffer from a very serious case of RBF so this contributes the perception of me as a snotty, humorless, poop-head.
You mentioned another thing I think is important. We act differently when we are focused on our interests and goals. Then we go into full laser mode. Don't want to be interrupted, don't want to explain, we put on blinders to everything else. Food, water, spouse, the 3-D world no longer exists except to serve our needs. When we accomplish whatever it is we want to do, we come back to our life. It's a strange thing to observe how we were when we were so focused. It was more than flow, it was total immersion.
Oh well, I've blabbered enough for now...lol.
socially troubled at times but still kicking ass
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The irony here is that most of the real intjs are different from what’s is said about them , while fake intjs are acting like the stereotypical description and on the top of that they think they’re cool doing so😅😅which is weird😂😂I feel like I want to protect this type and its people from being misunderstood 😩👌
Taghreed Alotaibi haha well spotted. It helps to identify the fakes, though, so these folks are shooting their own foot.
I secretly adore exposing the fakes- they are STUNNED when they find themselves face to face with the REAL DEAL... then try to watch & mimick me...only that just exposes their fraud even more!!!
You only brag about being an INTJ if you have subconscious doubts that you are one
I watched so many people on youtube talking about INTJ and it make me doubt my type... One girl saying that "we are brats" and everyone in the comments saying: lmao, right I agree. We are brats but it's just my personality type, people around me don't understand it. It's because we're rare" It... makes me kinda angry and tired. But when I found this channel most of my doubts went away.
@@lga.d3351 a lot of female INTJ bloggers seem to take some strange pride in being snappy and unsupportive, for whatever reasons. It's entirely their choice, and you don't have to be like that to be a "legit" INTJ.
I'm an Intj girl and I can be really open with people that I trust and like, I love jokes and being ironic.
Yeah exactly the same!! I thought i'm a fake intj because of that. When i trust people i be okay also the jokes and all that. I don't like it when people say we're robots
@@mera8551 i don't think any INTJ would have more than 5 friends
I myself personally think friendship as waste of time and feel exhausted seeing kids in school wasting time in friendship and in gossiping stuff
I always avoid people so i won't waste my time in their shi*y talks
I even kick people away who try to be friends with me and don't feel comfortable when they try to be personal with me like it doesn't concern you why shall i tell you about my private things.
Though i can gather people with my Te for my work and if they deny i can propose a mutual benefit as a bait
As an INTJ, I appreciate this video.
AsuraPsych: Now you're starting to get the INTJ more fully - non-sterotypical, humorous, absurdity-perceiving, laid-back. Also, it's good to see you looking more relaxed on camera. (subscribed)
You exposed some of the INTJ secrets, I haven't heard anyone talk about the laid back part which I am a lot more chill than most people think. I get seriously focused about the very few things I get interested in but those things are usually goal oriented and all goals get reached and end eventually.
I can relate to you
~INTJ
Ah I just realized why my obsurdist humor doesn't work with people at my job. I work in a sensor type job. And I get a lot of blank stares. Feels weird cuz I make myself laugh and no one else does.
Alek Kella yep experienced that many times
I’d laugh at your absurdist humor 😉
been there so many times!!!
HAHAHAA I can relate :)
Me as INFJ sometimes feel weird and misunderstood by the S types. I can laugh a lot inside with my thoughts, but I don’t share. I can be seen as too much thinking and too philosophical. So that’s why I prefer don’t talk most of the time.
I've never seen a cold INTJ. While my INTJ friend in high school was robotesque(or at least liked to play it up in his more social communication style), he was the warmest person I knew and I felt the only one that had the capacity to understand me. -infj
I'm also an INFJ but I feel like an INTJ, I don't know why.
@@lightinthedark9201 I understand the feeling.
Well done. By the way, I highly recommend that anyone who is unsure of their type get a typing session from you. You are highly intelligent and also very competent in your understanding of MBTI. I’ve seen your work and it is very high quality.
I appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching!
Touche! Spot on. Success, alias climbing the social ladder is secundairy. For us INTJs the pleasure to be satisfied by our personal interests is primary. For this my motto as an INTJ is: Never Prove Yourself To Others, Prove It To Yourself.
You do a good job capturing some of the nuances of our personality type. We sort of have a 6'th sense when it comes to efficiency and logic. It doesn't necessarily mean we're going to always become uptight because of these things.
I think the other misconception is that we're these ruthlessly direct people who don't care about feelings. That's completely inaccurate. I actually use my "Extraverted Thinking" a lot of time to protect people and their feelings.
With that said, I will never initiate conflict, but if someone does something to blatantly disrespect me or get on my nerves, then I will go full 100% revenge mode. I will calculate a million different ways to get back at them and not feel guilty one bit having my vengeance fuel me.
That last paragraph about conflict & blatant disrespect got me because I have run into this..she was quiet until 'she changed'...when that Fi line is crossed I will not hesitate to act & that quiet, agreeable person becomes anything but...
@@victorianastav4969 So true! The good news is that our fuse is pretty long and the disrespect has to be quite flagrant or repetitious for us to get to this point. Otherwise, we're fun loving and conflict averse butterflies, haha.
Right? Sometimes I notice when someone is sensitive to something that's being said when no one else does
@@pegahm4239 Precisely.
I feel like INTJ's have the most potential. only employing extroversion, efficiency when it's really required but in other moods are the most complete goofballs around. And that's why I love this personality type, they're serious, they really wanna get somewhere but it's important to still have fun along the way. At least that's my experience as an INTJ.
ENTJ's are true workaholics, their efficiency impresses me but also scares me a little bit lol.
ISTJs look to conform to a hierarchy. INTJs look for a hierarchy to conform to them.
@Daniel the Maniel They are Si users. They spend their entire lives collecting memories. Theirs is a different path.
While I realize it’s far from a direct equivalent, I (and apparently many other INTJ’s) found that the description of the Socionics ILI/INTp fits MUCH better than the “rigid, organized, cold mastermind” stereotype. It’s a much more accurate portrayal of how I feel on the inside (sensitive, unsure, perceptive, mutable) than what I might seem on the outside (pushy, potentially overly sure of myself, blunt, rigid).
This video explained something that bothered me for a very long time. I hesitated sometimes about whether I am INTJ or INFJ, because I have always been amazingly good at interpreting social situations, sudden changes in the mood of other people. And I`ve always thought that it is indicator of Fe function, but i was typed as INTJ and I fit in the descriptions of this type very well. So the fact that Ni is responsible for my social discernment was fascinating and helpful for me.
P.S. Also I should mention that your speech is gorgeous as it is fast enough but still very comprehensible (despite the fact I am not English-speaking person). Most of the time with other CZcamsrs I feel the need to speed up the video.
yes ! I also don't like watching tutorials because it takes so long to get to the point !
I’m honestly starting to believe that older, more experienced and developed INFJ types come off a LOT like the stereotypical INTJ.
My coworker/working partner (55y/o INFJ) seems more like INTJ and I feel like I do too (I’m 40), we’re both females. We both like the door to our work space closed at all times and behind that door is fun and magic that doesn’t happen outside that door. If the boss comes in, we both go into silent, serious work mode. a soon as he walks out, our magic returns! When we’re in the staff room, quiet. When we’re in the halls, quiet. When we’re in the classroom and the door is shut, it’s fun learning and working time (and sometimes spontaneous, intermittent dancing time when sitting goes a little too long🤗).
This is off topic, but I’m VERY worried about our children and our school systems. It’s really upsetting but I’m figuring it out for myself and my family.
I’m a female in my 40s, I thought that perhaps some female INTJs rely on Fi more than some male INTJs. Not all of course. I homeschool my children.
H Lop - Smart woman! My oldest child gave me my handsome grandson and we’re going to homeschool him, too. His mom (my daughter and oldest child) had a horrific time in the public school system (she’s a brilliant, independent and somewhat sassy, little INFP). It really makes my heart sing to know you’re homeschooling your kiddos and I truly believe this shut down will cause many, many more parents to choose to homeschool their kids. This is what our future needs. Children must be the priority if we want to thrive. Currently, we’re barely managing to survive as a functioning society.
Oh! I had to edit this because if you’re like me, you’ll notice the oddities in my numbers. I had a horrific upbringing which resulted in my becoming a mom as a teenager, that’s why I have a grandson at such a young age. My daughter is in her twenties. I was a teen mom but my kids are all well adjusted and healthy and we have no teen moms here (well, besides me, lol!).
It can be hard to differentiate INTJ and INFJ especially if the T/F functions are fairly balanced (or out of balance in favor of the tertiary function). I can come across in a lot of ways as an INFJ, but I definitely Te, not Fe. I even have high agreeableness on big5/ocean scores - but in discussing with an INFJ who had very similar results the motivation for agreeable behavior is *so* different.
You could be mistyped, I feel that a lot of female INFJ are actually INTJ and vice versa for our males...due to societal expectations and archetypes.
Many folks who study an issue or subject and encounter someone with a different opinion start blindly arguing, screaming, getting red in the face and becoming abusive. On the other hand if an INTJ finds some one with a different opinion who has studied and thought though a subject they love an in-depth discussion with the goal that both participants may learn something. The INTJ is in hog heaven!
An interesting input on the stereotypes, thank you! I’m leaving this video with some food for thought, primarily the topic of “usually speaking up only if there is something wrong to point out”. I realize I really do this very often, because for some reason when I see some discrepancies/areas to improve I feel that it absolutely NEEDS to be said out loud, whereas if I have some positive feedback on the situation I will most likely keep it to myself, because I don’t consider it “vital and useful” information and would withdraw it for the sake of keeping the conversation clean and relevant. Hearing this brought to light makes me rethink my approach to conversations. I never really thought before that positive feedback is as important as pointing out pain points, just in another way of importance - a more “emotional/spiritual/human” one.
As a Counselling psychologist and an intj woman, I resonate quite delightfully, if I may add, to your way of thinking in prioritizing towards your primary and secondary goals!
As an ESTJ I've always been fascinated with INTJs or IxTJs in general. They really do have a calming controlled aura in everything they do.
I think that the free-flowing, easy going, observant, empathic nature of INTJs is a big surprise to people who take the time to get to know me away from work or other intense, stressful situations. Most people who interact with me do so when I'm in 'fish out of water' situations and I am more in 'robot mode' as I'm trying so hard to cope with what seems to me to be chaos, noise, crowds, emotional outbursts etc. I feel like I have to 'raise shields' or put my armor on in those situations, so I probably come across as fitting the INTJ stereotypes fairly well.
But, when I'm in my element and things are calm, quiet, orderly etc. and especially if I'm engaged in situations that I enjoy like gardening, drawing, reading a book, building or improving something, playing a turn-based strategy game (video game or table-top game) etc. and they are with me, they get to see a totally different side of me that is more like what you describe in this well-done video.
The anecdote you give at 5:06 and the whole thought process behind it, both clear my doubts about my type. Also, you did a good job at explaining why intjs come out as serious people. Thanks for the video. It contained pretty much all the answers I was looking for. I'm glad that you answered my question despite not doing it often.
Yes on the loose scheduled time blocks to get things done. We talk about time and our organization of it exactly the same way.
Absolutely true. I was having a discussion about the differences between ENTJ’s (that is what she is) and the INJT’s (me) with a family member. I was constantly taking about the cost-benefit analyses that is constantly going on in my head. “Is this social engagement worth the effort”. “If I communicate why this proposed process will have challenges, can my audience understand it or should I just let it play out”. It seems like my mind is in a loop that weights out every action and sentence I say to determine if it will make an impact. That concept was just odd to my ENTJ friend. This is completely dorky, but we were discussing using a risk management tool at work called a Failure Mode Effect Analysis between my fellow Quality Managers. It’s a great tool but I can see some company culture issues that will cause road blocks. At the end of my monologue I simply stated “I don’t have much of an opinion either way nor am I emotionally vested in any specific process. I am more concerned about matching a process that works with the company culture.” After saying this, I think that is a true pulse of how we operate. We don’t care much, we just want it to work and work effectively. If it’s effective, I can go pursue the personal things that I love. ENTJ’s tend to speak up more and they tend to be a bit more emotionally vested- generally speaking.
Interesting comment. Thanks!
Hands down the best description I have seen so far. I think a lot of times the strategic, goal-oriented part of our personalities gets generalized to all parts of our lives. The reality is, I’m not going to put that kind of effort into anything that I don’t find personally meaningful lol.
This is the most accurate description of my personality that I’ve heard so far in INTJ videos. Spot on.
I worked for various companies for decades...construction- I was too capable of finding & fixing flaws... Biomed- I was too capable of finding & fixing procedure flaws... Academic... I was too capable of inter-connecting diverse subject matter into precise cohesive networks... Every one of them left those around me feeling like I had somehow "stomped" them, when in truth, all of those changes I initiated IMPROVED the overall situations in real time for all those concerned. It was never my intent to "stomp" anyone, but there is the misunderstanding vividly in plain sight!!!
I gave up & started my own private service business 15 years ago. I can be as flexible as each client needs & the scope has grown exponentially...from elders who are dangerously alone to millionaires who are fed up with sub-par results...new clients coming on line all the time. FINALLY I can work ALONE, no backtracking to "fix" a miscalculation, & each client seems thrilled with their respective results.
INTJs run the full spectrum of variation & each one of us has to find our own nitch... our own comfort zone. We bring capability & foresight into anything we choose to invest in. I learned the hard way, that misunderstanding us in their downfall...& leaves us to distill out the "why"... most of which never made any sense to me.💜
I feel ya everyone has always taken my constructive criticism as a personal attack, instead of learning from it. Ps were you a management consultant?
@@alphadevoir6310 No. Tech Consultant... AI later, but initially programming & streamline protocols... Ppl need to get real: if a better process can be incorporated into an existing protocol that saves workers time, keeps them safer, while saving the company money, why would they NOT want to deploy it??? I still don't get the anamosity...
Thanks for your comment.💜
@@catherinerhea6336 you're welcome
This video was just what I needed! Today I briefly mentioned to someone how an older INTP coworker of mine told me he thought I represented an ENTJ more than my actual INTJ personality. I'm quite sure it's just like you mentioned here with Te being our first 'visible' function, hench these so-called 'ENTJ' vibes I can give off to the untrained eye. My Te is most strongly involved with my serious goals and efforts in life which include my career and pursuing my study of psychology. In my free time I tend to keep a flexible and loosely planned schedule. Keeps me happy and healthy. Incredibly well put into words as always, Chris. Thank you.
It's definitely way more easy to come across as very Te at work, probably the easiest place to come across that way rather than in a more genuine and accurate Ni way.
Huh... That's interesting, I never understood why people constantly told me to relax more, have some fun, be more laid-back. Though I never really reacted to it, in my mind I was like: "what in the world are you talking about?". This information will help me a ton!
On a daily basis, I know I'm still a rather unhealthy INTJ (though working on it with a therapist), which comes down to me generally trying to act like an ENTJ too much. I think this video coined that explanation pretty perfectly for me.
I can soo relate when you said that Intjs are more like the original empaths because we can read body language, emotions from other people pretty well and that we observe and take it in to analyze rather than to act on it like an infj. Its exactly this that made me question my type cause i thought i am too "feely" for an intj (i also didnt know about the functions then). I feel emotions soo deeply, especially when i have a deep talk/heart to heart with a friend and i feel this "connection". Talks like these power me out but its a blissful, content exhaustion cause i connected deeper with another human and i felt what they felt! I also notice small details in body language and my Ni tells me immediately what it means, and i have to think on it and analyze it. It goes so far that i feel the "vibe" of a room i enter, like i receive all these signals from every person which sometimes makes me feel awkward when the vibe i receive is not relaxed, like there are things left unsaid. Its like i can tell when a person is not being honest because of their body language, i can feel them act and hold back and i HATE this the most! (Currently have this problem with a guy i am seeing.. i already know we have no future)
Edit: i just remembered a friend of mine telling me that she is jealous of how i am able to immediately vibe and connect with new people i meet, that it seems to come so easy to me. I was shocked to hear that cause i never perceived myself like this
Have heard many INFJ say they can read a room.
INTJ here. I really appreciate this video, as the info is spoken clearly, quickly, and very organized. Some of the stereotypes are true, like I hate it when people tell me I am too quiet (when they are really too loud and hog the convo), or tell me to stop frowning...I ask them if they see frown lines in my forehead, or just a relaxed face? That usually helps them realize I am relaxing and not forcing either a smile or a frown.
Great video! Thank you for addressing our intense/casual dichotomy. People usually see me as very serious and think that I'm tense or critical when, in truth, I'm usually quite relaxed and laughing internally at most things going on. That only changes when I've decided that it's time to act on something.. then I want it done now and work towards it should not cease until it is complete. I will use all tools at hand to do so, including people that get within range 😆
So true. I am super casual and relaxed. I just roll with whatever the moment brings me every day. Reminded me of how, over the years, a few have commented that "It must be exhausting" (pejoratively) for me to be such a thinker, and how I've replied; "Actually, it's not exhausting at all. It's effortless. It comes as naturally to me as breathing does." And it does. I hope that's true of all INTJ's, but I don't know many INTJ's, so...?
Like you, I am 'always' laughing internally. Always. That said, what 'does' exhaust me, is overly emotional people. (This surprises no INTJ who's reading...haha.) It's like; "No, I'm fine--not mentally tired at all, it's YOU that exhausts me." :D
I've also always thought that patience and impatience plays a big role in this since ENTJ's expect the results to come much quicker while INTJ's are more interested in setting extreme long term goals and following them.
Also, I really enjoy your way of speaking!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Throughout my time at school and medical school there have been a lot of people who'd question me on why I felt the need to do 'so much' related to, but outside of my degree that would not really contribute anything meaningful to my grades or rankings. As a result I tend to keep very closed off about my personal projects and don't bring them up unless asked. I think this might just be related to how much I want to be as competent a doctor as I can in the future. People who don't know me well often underestimate me since I come off as very chirpy, naïve and unthreatening.
I relate to this a lot. I'm a high school senior and I'm interested in the sciences/human body I'm taking anatomy and physiology along with forensic science instead of AP Bio or chem or physics because although I also wanted to do those these genuinely interested me in my fascination with the human body. I also love singing and am taking 2 choirs as well as thinking about doing extra music stuff. Unless people ask I really don't tell them.
I don't like most people but I love intjs. I absolutely adore this type.
Out of all these vids on youtube about this personality type, this one is by far the most accurate when diving into specifics. Things like humor and overall demeanor are often percieved in a very serious "robot like" way and I personally never resonated with that. This vid needs to be the go to whenever the INTJ personality type is brought up.
The only speaking up when there is a problem part is weird, especially as a creative when people ask for feedback and I start off by pointing out the problems and they end up thinking that their work sucks or I just passive aggressively hate it. I do try to be more complementy when someone shows their art and to speak my mind on it, but I'm sure I just come across as awkwardly pretending to like it...
Perhaps this helps:
Like their art not as a form of giving dishonest compliments out of politeness, but because it's an extension of themselves on paper, so the compliment feels less hard to give when you talk about it, like you talk about them. When someone is not that good, giving them positive feedback though, (before pointing to only one or two points where they could improve, but already show the potential for the right direction), will make them better eventually, because they will feel encouraged enough to keep on doing it, while also trying to get these few points that they've missed before. Artists are a little like self fulfilling prophecies with compliments. I dropped my favourite forms of art after being told times and times again by someone with narcissistic you know, that I'd be awful until I just tried something again and a friend of mine complimented it, even though it was nowhere near good back then ^^' Think of Toddlers when you're speaking to artists: The rainbow might have only 4 colours and there's brown in it for some reason, but having it pinned to the fridge will help them grow healthy.
Ok that sounds weird, but I know most artists are super vulnerable once you talk about their work, so observe how much constructive critique they can handle in each case. It's called self-expression for this reason that it is in a way a direct link to their person thus direct critique on them to many...
Sorry for the long post 🌈🟤
I always feel like this too when complementing someone, even though I only say things I genuinely mean.
@@icecreaminwinter6034 That's decent advice. I had to learn how to do this as I spent my youth on online art sites, it's one reason I now score high in agreeableness and get confused for an INFx.
Thank you for debunking the stereotypes that are not true. Introverted judgers overall are dominant perceivers and lead our lives that way, almost like extroverted perceivers.
Great video, I love when MBTI stereotypes or errant perceptions are addressed and dispelled. It really helps to foster the understanding between people of different types which is more along the lines of why typology is studied in the first place. My father is INTJ and my brother ENTJ and it has been interesting to see how the two are different and how they have interacted over the years. My brother has become much more financially successful in his life, but my father does not put any less time or effort into working, his goal is to do his job well, not to schmooze his way higher in a company. Also, my father just sort of "picked up" complex computer programming, and he is able to solve really complex server issues that teams of other people can't wrap their heads around, but my father's true passion in life has revolved around philosophy, religion and music. So while he is dedicated to his job while he is doing it, his focus is on his personal pursuits.
My brother, who has a law degree and works in a bank's legal department spent years focusing on "getting higher" and creating an image of himself to others, but his true passion was making his own video game programming company, which he has done, but his efforts seem more split between his actual passion and fostering his career. So as both of them have incorporated a separate path between career and personal goals, it is clear that my brother's concern is just as much about his image at work and his place in society as it is about his own interests. But my father, who is dedicated to working hard, does not care about his status within the company or in society itself and rather focuses on his own understandings of philosophy and religion and music when he can.
What's interesting between the two, is that while my brother is pretty good at "schmoozing" people, which my father is not (sorry if that seems a derogatory term, it's the best descriptor I can think of), he isn't quite as humorous in his actual communication style. Whereas when my father gives a speech or writes, even on philosophy or religion, his communication is just riddled with puns and word play (something that as an Ni dom myself I really enjoy/appreciate in his work, perhaps more so than most people), almost to the point where one wonders if he is being serious at all. I think this comes across as a bit of a surprise as, to those that don't know him, he seems very stoic and serious. I'm not sure my brother would ever really be described as stoic by an onlooker. Though he is very serious in his legal dealings.
Just don't come between them when they are having a chess tournament with each other, because that gets cutthroat . . .
I also had an INTJ friend in highschool (not that I knew anything about MBTI types back then), who, to most people just seemed the most deadpan, uninterested, stone cold person sitting in the back corner of the room. But he was always slipping humorous side comments to his close friends on the side. So there is definitely a very jocular inner-side to INTJ's which just doesn't translate in their regular dealings with people unfamiliar to them.
I kind of don't relate to the 30 years planned out stuff mentioned in the video. As an INTJ I have kind of planned the next 30 years, more like a set of achievements and I'm a prospective teacher rn, so I can say I will be a teacher teaching kids/teenagers and have a pretty stable life for the next 30 years in that respect. But I don't plan more than that because life always disappoints you by taking immediate u-turns and all plans fail. We were not expecting a world war, for example, were we? I can't say what's gonna happen in the world, so I just know that I like teaching and the idea of shaping a generation in a good manner and teaching them is something I would like to do for my life. But anything beyond that is unpredictable and unplannable. Let's be real. All of us are regular beans, yes beans, who sit here and watch videos, pretending to have planned everything out and discovered the mysteries of the universe or achieved great success in some areas of life whereas in reality most of us are all living mediocre lives. It's easy to get caught up in fantasy, especially if it involves you in a glamorizing way. But truth is truth, it doesn't care about your opinion or perception.
If only I understood this stuff when I was married to an INTJ lol 😂 I have a greater respect now ❣️
Your video is accurate to the point! As an INTJ, i really thought I did not fit in the " INTJ box" as we were said to be serious all the time and so on . I even took the mbti test many times still to be proven to INTJ , so i went to search on the answer to my doubts and for the love of God I stumbled upon your channel! This made me understand a lot abt myself and when my serious side actually comes out cause I'm usually laid back unless I'm talking abt wt my priorities are ,so , thanks a lot mate!
Thank you for making this video , I needed that so much , as an intj I was very shocked while reading some stereotypical descriptions about my type , all I know about myself is that I’m very respectful, calm , and nice . I can’t be harmful to others in any ways, so , I started to doubt my real type , anyway thanks again 👌
Thank you for doing this. It is really hard for people to realise how relaxed I actually am - most of the time I really don't care about most things (unless they get in the way of the plan!) I *feel* like I am very calm and relaxed but when people do engage with me on something it is quite easy to be direct and see the point easily. In which case I can be quite blunt - unintentionally and it comes across as harsh, but yet I do still feel quite relaxed about it. It must seem quite paradoxical to a non-INTJ: relaxed until we are not! :)
About critisizing other people's logic, it feels as our own logic is: "Let's correct this flaw now, because it might mess up the whole equation". I often want to be helpful, when I point out flaws in logic, so that there are no missunderstandings or bad outcomes, due to a logic flaw. But from the outside, that often looks like harsh critique and to some even feels offensive. What's funny, is that sometimes you hear people talk and you correct their illogical concepts 2 or 3 times but they do not really like it and then you simply stop correcting, because they are having SO many logic flaws and are SO defensive with them, that you just wait for the conversation to end.
Wooow finally i just can relate easly, about the effective communication, I really am. This is what made me so surprised that I wanted to repeat the test thinking that it is impossible for an introvert to be like this, and also a sense of humor when comfortable with the person "after a million years 🌚" many do not mention this about intj . 👏👏👏
This video was like it was describing me. Unlike the other more stereotyped vids
Well spoken. I find that INTJs are heavily stereotyped, and you addressed this well, in addition to other subtopics. Keep up the good work!
I do match some of the stereotype of an INTJ but a lot in this video does resonate.
The sterotype which match are: i do typically show 2 faces/emotions, neutral/happy(humour/amusement). I do plan a lot and have a masterplan (which grows), but as in the video, my plans are not typically detailed to the second. An example of my plan, is a 4 phase business model, i have planned every aspect based on my current knowledge base, but my plan includes years of study to gain certain insights, which would compliment my business plan. In turn, i have commited 7 years to studying 3 degrees (2 BEng 1 MSc) in mechanical, manufacturing and electronics, for the sole purpose of designing anything i need. However, i do procastinate (planned delay), but i always complete what i need to do by the deadlines i set.
I do match the stereotype of entering academia / enjoy studying and as stated, i have entered STEM disciplines. My choice in studies have also be planned / chosen for specific purposes to compliment the masterplan.
I do see things as they are, as a result respect is definetly something earned from my point, i do not blindly accept what others say but i do accept that a person that specialises in a specific field (PhD) should know more about that field than me, but equally i do not take their word on things that is not within their field.
I am very appoachable and very laid back, i prefer to keep things peaceful. As such, i don't openly express my view on everything at the risk of others negative feedback. As an example and tieing into planning, i plan most conversations, i plan what i want to say, the most effective way of saying, i plan the most probable responses and in turn plan what i would say afterwards. I basically plan the conversation. The more that i have predicted correctly about how conversations go, the more wise i become to what not to say. However, if somebody questions me randomly, this can stump me, causing me to take to to answer or providing a very breif response.
I do have a curse when it comes to planning though, which id like others feedback on. Especially when i have been focused on something / studying (reading something of interest), i find it very difficult to switch off, i can go to bed and lay thinking/processing for hours if not until the next morning. My only solution is to distract myself by watching comedies on repeat, such as family guy or big bang theory. This allows me to switch off, anybody else have this issue?
I am definetly private for the most part, only letting people know what i want them to know. If i feel someone is digging for more, i happily cut them off, if i feel they are intruding/pushing things, i do give plenty of warnings though.
I think i will leave this "brief" description here, as i could go on a lot more.
You asked for feedback on your hyperfocus. I regularly and am currently experiencing this. Since I discovered MBTI I haven't been able to stop learning everything I can about psychology. I am losing sleep because I can't stop absorbing information. What helps with the thoughts is weed edibles. They slow down my thinking and actually make it much clearer. I can enjoy more simple things. Lastly, I'm a bit more expressive, like I laugh at things ALOT more easily. It also gives me panic attacks. And now I can't stop typing... yeah anyways!
As an INTJ I would say your videos are spot on. You are the only content creator so far who I have found really understands our type.
I don't know what others think about us but you are a really cool looking guy .... you are one of the most cool looking INTJs I've ever seen ...
The ability to read on a person's language of behavior is what makes introverted intuitive types immune to manipulation. Rarely will an INTJ be surprised but you will be surprised by the INTJ 😏
Great content though.
You're right but being hyper aware of those things will make you really paranoid of BEING manipulated/betrayed. So it's a double edged sword I would say.
This is what gives us the ability to use a manipulator in order to achieve our desires. They are shocked when we have realized our goals when they thought they were using us. I am sure this is where the evil mastermind stereotype comes from. I secretly derive pleasurable satisfaction when this occurs in my life, especially when I have watched the manipulator use others!!!!
@@rexie1932 Frankly, it could be a double edged sword as you say. I mean, Ni being highly developed puts you at a place where you have evolved to tuning in to your intuition so I can imagine you trust it enough to know when to draw a line. However, if it gets to a point of being paranoid I do think it's a matter of how you manage that awareness. The thing with paranoia is that it can cause anxiety or the other way around which would then throw your cognitive functioning off kilter. As you can see overestimating the intentions of others can be quite costly in particularly one's mental health. In the end you are responsible for what you choose to do with the amount of time you expend on being paranoid to the intentions of others. The ideal solution is to 'learn' to realistically assess a situation and respond accordingly to the end objective of what you're in. Apologies if what I said may be irrelevant to what you were actually saying.
@@DanceMotherSuperior Imagine the struggle it would be for someone to plant seeds into our mind to lead us to think in a certain way? But what's better we can make them believe that they are doing so that way in the end we can pull one over them. However, it's almost always best to ignore the offender. I think INTJs have that unique ability to objectively countermeasure or put in place contingency plans if an event were to come to an undesirable outcome. In the end, eventually there will be a way.
@@isolvr4011 All good. I agree with what you said, it takes a healthy intj to not worrry about that but i would say every INTJ in developement would have struggled with being untrusting of others their intention.
A few years ago while feeling guilty over wasted time I decided to plan out the following day in 15 minute increments with a specific task for each time block. It was the most productive day... It was the most miserable day... Never again. Better is to have a few running lists of must accomplish by end of day, stuff to do at some point and ideas for things I don't want to forget about but will probably never have time for so I always have options to choose from based on what I feel like working on at the moment. Not as efficient, but it works long term.
I hate this stereotype that we are emotionless robots.
People tend to be very surprised when I laugh or enjoy a good joke. We are quite humorous people once we open ourselves up. In fact I really enjoy letting my weird side out , with the right people of course.
Finally, an accurate representation of our type, and an accurate representative of our type. I greatly appreciate the content you put out, wish yours could become the dominant INTJ youtube channel, as there is so much blatantly incorrect information out there, especially in regards to the stereotypes you mentioned in this video (such as of INTJs being hyper-efficient, being very cold, being very serious, etc.)
Great to meat true INTJ’s like yourself, justcallmejon & Solomon Dante!
Hmm, I personally feel intjs are extremely emotion based and humanitarian people..❤
Another good video. I usually test as INTJ, but have doubts as to whether I may be INTP, primarily as I don't have the 100% hyper driven "always on" personality that INTJs are usually portrayed as having.
This does sound a lot more like how I approach the world, so maybe I am an INTJ after all!
Yoooooooooo. I feel so seen. That last part about watching things over time is so true. And I hated when I was in corporate and folks wanted you to jump in, make a decision or take ownership of something before I had time to process it all and see what the hey ho nonny no it was. So, thanks for this vid.
INTJ here, Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed it!
Wish I had more INTJs in my life...
Nailed it brotha man.
“Become a clinical psychologist one day” is accurate. -clinical psychologist student
I love this channel and your videos. One thing id like to say is that i hate how intjs are always portrayed as business or corporate go getters like nah lol
Thank you, Yep, hands down, just thank you. Finally, somebody said it.
I’m not sure I’m an INTJ, I took the test when I was younger and got those designators. Some videos seem to suggest that INTJs are robotic or very distant. I have, or think I have a somewhat approachable demeanor, although I get that I come off as serious and perhaps stern much of the time. Still not convinced I’m an INTJ, but believe (I’m an INT at the least) not sure I’m that planned out, smart or uncaring as the other videos mention but this video did give a great perspective on it that gets me thinking.
If I were to elaborate a little it might be that while I am an INTJ(P?), I’ve adjusted to understand that people and their emotions are as valuable as other processes in getting things done efficiently.
In short, I liked your video.
We are so planned that we have time to relax and understand the importance of relaxing and unwinding.
Chris, you are constantly helping me understand myself so much, through your videos.. Thank you for your work, it's really valuable for intjs!
It is really helpful, especially if you doubt yourself and your type. Good for people who don't do stereotypical things - for example me, an INTJ housewife.
MBTI was a thing when I was in University. I got a couple of tests and it always turned out ENTJ. I had long believed that I was an ENTJ. I was indeed quite ambitious and checked most of the ENTJ stereotypes as a student. Until the pandemic hit, and being isolated from the world caused a great deal on my mental stability. Despite the depression and anxiety that began to take a toll on me, I realized how introverted I have turned.
So I got another test, and now I am an INTJ. I got a couple more tests and INTJ they told me consistently 😂
At first, I thought that I was just turned into an introvert. And I began to dive deep into this MBTI thing because why not? 🤣
However, the more I learned and thought about it, the more I realized that I might be an INTJ all along.
As a kid up to the teenage phase of my life, I lived in this narrative bubble and I was the protagonist of my own story. I was indeed emotionally sensitive but mostly to my own emotions. And because I wished not to show that vulnerable part of me, every time I was emotional (as a kid), I would express it with annoyance, anger, and some sort instead of showing my true feelings. And I take the habit to adulthood. It just rather than being angry, as an adult I would often take it as an advantage. Knowing how people feel with this weird intuition and working it with the best course of action possible to get what I wanted.
I might know and recognise people's emotions and what causes them to feel that way, but I would never understand them personally. Despite being an emotional being, I never let it be the decision-maker. Somehow at the right point and time, the brain would always be the decision maker (especially big decisions).
Also growing up, I was a more personal goal-oriented person rather than a mainstream goal-oriented person. It means I don't follow society's standard of success. I didn't care about the point or position I got at school, but I cared about what I learned and mastered. I care nothing for boring things and often dive too deep into something that took my interest.
I have zero sense of time while doing it 🥲
I was also very strategic the whole of my life and failed to understand why others didn't see what I saw.
For example, I always calculate what minimum question I have to answer right to get the basic minimum score needed and proceed to get out of the class faster so I can read my novel again.
Or the fact that I know if I was bad at physics, decent at chemistry, and excellent at biology while maintaining a stably good stance on literature and math, but have stupidly great interest in social studies despite being a Natural Science major in high school, so I would most likely unable to get into the school I aimed if I take Nat Science test and got the mix ( Nat and Sos science) instead because it would give me better chance. There's more and more...
The conclusion was that I was an INTJ all along. So why did my first test show me as ENTJ?
Your video answers that question actually. I was just in a phase where I was driven by a clear goal 🤭 thus made me appear ENTJ when I was just on 🔥
Also, the very INTJ thing that baffled me for many years was the pattern one! I always tried to explain this thing I intuitively saw but always failed 😪 I saw the pattern, I recognised it, I understand it, and I can use it for my own advantage, but I can't explain it 🤣
Oh i studied a friend of mine and found out that she is an intj, when I came to know the mbti personality tipes. I ever found her so interesting and loved her personality so much! I saw she was different from other people and so much like me, but only much, not completely like me, because I am an infj women 😜. But I love intjs really really much. Thank you
I know these videos are old, but you really helped me discover I’m indeed an INTJ and not an INFJ. I care so much about personal growth, mastery, and I very much focus on my internal feelings (Fi) more than the feeling of others (Fe). I have gotten in trouble more than once for speaking up in meetings and challenging the systems I find inefficient!
This is the first INTJ I've seen on CZcams that actually seems like me and my thought processes. I'm a more aggressive judgey version of this guy lol
Almost like seeing/hearing yourself in some recent found footage :D And you're definitely right on the free flow/intuitive part - I used to work with an ENTJ and me IxtJ myself, and I was always impressed how focused/driven he would appear compared to my own thinking style; I tended to branch off in all manner of relevant/irrelevant directions, trying to cover every single scenario and then never committing to getting the work done until the last moment :) he since left the job, but came back as a project manager :P and I'm still in the basement, messing around with our computer code trading people's money :P he definitely inspired me to focus and trim away the overanalyzing, but it's just so hard when you're right more often than not in the end :D great guy.
Watching this while wondering what sword is behind you?
He studies the blade offcourse
As LiJo (another INTJ youtuber) said, typology is cognitive, not behavioral. ;)
So don't worry if you don't fit into the stereotype of an INTJ, because they are just that, general assumptions of a group, and not fact.
Great video, by the way. :)
8:09 this is really relatable to me, I need to find a good reason first if it's worth it/it has caught my interest.
As an INTJ, I have given up on goals for the simple reason that it will all come to nought as society devolves into madness and sinfulness.
I’m glad I found a real intj
i'm a Lone Wolf Alpha- Schizoid INTJ,
I really don't care what other people think
and I love my Domain and Solitude
This one is extremely accurate. Thank you!
HIGHLY ACCURATE , thanks for this video .
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you for this video Chris to describe us INTJs. Also like the practice sword in the background, also have this same practice sword. Maybe it's an INTJ thing?
Thank you for sharing
Thank you for helping me understand me 😂💕
Wow, perfectly described. The 1st person who really understands me!
when you mentioned jung’s view on infj’s being empaths, this is very true for me 👌🏽thank you xx
It is like seeing myself in everything you explained. Thanks!
I am INTJ : Think and overthink first, and maybe act after. Take time to analyze. Patient.
My ex ENTJ, 9 years relationship : Act first, and maybe think after. Just do it now. Not patient.
ENTJ like to party, talk and meet new people, spontaneous, perceived as haughty, proud, authoritarian, want always do something, to move, a leader.
How was your day? : EJ and IP types, will talk about people and ... (for ENTJ) how they are efficient or not at work.
I don’t really like to meet new people, avoid crowds, calm, seen as too serious, talk only on meaningful conversations, hate small talk. Don’t talk about people. Party are a waste of time, money and energy.
Take time and think and overthink. Value time and energy.
Always aware, observe, analyse, stare, sanitary situation didn’t change my life
I'm very laid back and have a great sense of humor. You may not understand my version of relaxation, or my sense of humor. But, that's you problem.
I will work to please some people on some things. If you don't make that list, oh well.
I'm also a 60 year old engineer. I don't do drama. I value what I value and you are unlikely to change my mind.
The way you described you INTJs I really think us INFJs would really really really get along with you guys and as I said once before, you have very deep eyes and if all or at least most INTJs have eyes like yours then we INFJs could possibly end up being INTJs best friends. For the eyes, more and more I really do think that that depth is only from the Ni function dominance. Never seen anyone else so far with deeper eyes nor as deep of eyes as us 2 types. I would love to learn if my theory is true or not. I admit, if we met in person, I don't think you could hide your feeling from me, but I still may or may not say anything of what I feel, ha ha ha. You do seem pretty awesome to me I will also admit.
I was discussing Jung earlier today with a coworker. We were on about the archetypes and shadow self. It's interesting how his brand of labeling has taken more to mainstream than Freud, the father of modern psycho-analysis. I think Jung really got it. Freud's take always seemed superficial. Of course we want to take the roles of our parents in some regards. We are raised for it. But the processing of stimuli goes far beyond role. There is the synthesis of experience, conditioning, repressed emotion, and the functions, which seem to take it all in and spit something out. It's a blend, the human psyche. No easy answers. A mind can harp on a thing, or it can bypass it entirely. I think the elasticity of the mind will be validated by future analytics. The way survival for humans has evolved over the years, it will definitely continue to expand in definition, and with it so too will the capabilities of mental processing. Just think of the possibilities when adding cybernetics! What happens when humans can expand RAM per individual?! How is that gonna change the psyche game?
MORE RELAXED AROUND THOSE THEY KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEP, YEP.
FOR SURE.
in high school i was voted as the 'class clown' (or funniest) my senior year BECAUSE i WAS THE funniest around those who i knew and grew up with for ALL 12 of my grade school years.
i ABSOLUTELY WAS VERY, VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE with them ALL after all of those years. also, in seeing the humor lies in odd little idiosyncrasies i could VERY EXPERTLY CAPITALIZE on those things.