Full Sanwa?!? This is really nice for that price, it's a steal! Comes with features like the USB cable door that other sticks offer for double this price. This was a great review. What would had killed it even further is if you talked about the build material. How is the plastic? Premium or meh? This thing is great and easy to mod even further, which makes this an even better value!
You pushed me into it. I came here comparing to the MF F700. I thought I was really going with the Mayflash but the more I researched the more I wanted the dark matter. It's been ordered and will be here in 2 days. Beyond pumped! Great review! 🎉
@@jdizzle1779 I'm on day 4. So far, I'm head over heals in love. For the price point it's everything I wanted. The sticks and buttons feel exactly how you'd expect, and the box build feels very sturdy without being overly heavy. The stock artwork doesn't pop in color quite like I had hoped, but it still looks incredible. The mod switches, and l3 +r3 buttons are a very nice touch. I had been looking for a pair of sticks like this for my Launchbox / BigBox set up. I will be getting another... And when I do... My son is gonna freak! A very welcome purchase! Would highly recommend.
Nice review man, I'm new to the fight stick scene but I think your review has cinched it for the Monoprice stick for me. I've had a good experience with their other gear in the past and I like the aesthetic of the Dark Matter stick.
@@bruiseleroy008 Yep, I got the Dark Matter stick a week ago and I managed to nab it from Walmart online for only 95 bucks before tax! Super steal getting Sanwa parts at this price point. I've already swapped out the gate for a true octagonal and I'm looking into some custom art. Think I might've found a new niche of hardware I want to start collecting. Thanks again for your video, man!
Great review. However, this looks like a GameSir C2 with a Dark Matter template rather than an actual Dark Matter stick. While they are essentially the same, and have many other names, the button signs on the acrylic piece are all different. With an original Dark Matter unfortunately being more bland than the one you have, in case someone really likes the way yours looks. Also worth noting if someone wants a wireless version, look at the LeEco LEGFS-201.
Scored this for $99. This is the best fight stick for the price. This is my daily driver. Easy to mod too. I swapped out the lever for a Crown 309-mj, and the buttons with gamerfingers. Great stick!
This is just the information I was looking for! I play Tekken 7 and I’m a Mishima player and I heard that Korean lever is more optimal so I was wondering if this stick was compatible with K lever I’m glad you answered the question I haven’t been able to find an answer to so thanks a lot! You just cleared up my apprehension for choosing to buy this as my first arcade stick!
Wow! It's a great deal at retail....$99 is crazy good! That custom setup sounds awesome, and I might try out some different components as well. Enjoy it!
@@bruiseleroy008 Thanks. I have been. I may go with a sanjucks lever or the Knee lever to try out next. But so far the only think I haven’t done is swap out the art. Not that it’s hard. I’m just too busy enjoying playing Tekken 7, Guilty Gear Strive, Melty Blood, etc..
@BruiseLeroy I took it apart and felt the wireless board was over my head. I just swapped the actuator to 1mm with a Lil grease, 4 lb spring and octogate and now it's perfect.
You would definitely do better with the Razer Panthera EVO instead. I have the Prototype Atrox over a decade ago and the creaking problem was my main complaint and loose USB Type B connection as feedback. Monoprice Darkmatter is probably my main recommendation as it has probably one of the better form factor design and with the money you're saving, if anyone really wanted to play on consoles without the controller piggyback, just invest in a Brook Wingman converter for an extra $40 - $50.
i just bought one. i was hesitant as i have had steering wheels in the past that are set-up with having to plug an Xbox controller into it to make the Xbox recognize it and didnt like them very much. i figured it would work better with an arcade stick over a wheel. it was this or the 8bitdo but i like the bigger size of this board.
In the UK you can get this stick but it’s called the DRAGON SLAY Universal Arcade Fight Stick, bit of a mouthful 😂 but would agree it’s a fantastic bit of kit.
Wow what are the odds, 😅I was listening then heard the song at 2:30 mark that I've been using for months as my Ending Stream music... made me think my OBS scene had been clicked by mistake
I'm basically a new fighting game player and was looking for some good advice. I recently bought Guilty Gear Strive which is very well done in terms of tutorials, missions and combo guide. But although I'm really enjoying playing with the PS5 D-pad, I'm having a lot of trouble executing some moves and was considering buying an arcade stick. Is this arcade stick good for getting started? Also, it is also compatible with PS5 system? A thousand thanks. Ready to hear other suggestions. Thanks!
why do they come in square gates by default.. I hate square gates so much... I remember buying the sf4 for ps3 and when I opened them to find a square gate. I was so pissed. I had to order them and wait 6 weeks for delivery..
@@bruiseleroy008it works when playing ps4 games on ps5, but not native ps5 games. This controller goes by different names. Madkats ego and Sparkfox and few others.
Basically all products nowadays will have that warning or some other prop 65 chemical that can cause cancer. No worries at this point on this stick vs others. 👌🏽
There are a lot of cheaper options out there, but this one has authentic Sanwa components (same as in actual arcade cabinets). Most of this quality are in the $200-$300 range 🙀
Dude I was really enjoying the video until the point you showed the Rattle..... the rattle is not in Panthera. Its on the table or the way its kept on the table. I disliked the video for this unfair comment about disgracing Panthera this way. You are trying to say that a Merceds is better than Toyota coz Toyota has less features and is easy to maintain.
Sorry you feel that way, but I assure you that the rattles and squeaks are coming 100% from the Panthera and not the desk. Nothing else against it, but it is very creaky during use. Kudos to you if the Panthera is your go-to stick, it just isn't for me, and there's no reason for me to knock it for no reason.
Please reply to this comment because it’s important for me to know before I buy this stick; am I able to swap out the Japanese lever for a Korean lever? I hear Korean lever is best for me based on the characters I play for Tekken 7 but to my understanding not all sticks are compatible with fitting a Korean lever in them so I need to know.
Sorry, but I've never used a korean lever, but I do read people switching from the JLF and back again, so it should be compatible. What does the wiring setup look like on a korean lever vs the 5-pin on the JLF? There are plenty of conversion harnesses available, if needed...
Think you responded to me. But YES YOU CAN! Haha. I have the Crown-309-mj in mine now. Before that I had the Taeyoung Fanta. Both works flawlessly. The 309 battop feels better in my hands.
True, most of the enthusiast and above grade sticks like these come with Sanwa, probably because they are one of the highest in demand. Luckily Seimitsu levers can be had at about $20-$30, and wouldn't be hard to swap into this chassis.
Just got mine today. Amazing stick for $120, wtf monoprice lol you're making all these other companies look like shit. Joystick has an amazing design and is VERY sturdy like he stated. Im really shocked this thing only cost $120. Would have paid $175 - $200 no question. Wanted an ettoki, but they didn't ship to my state. This is probably just as good for 1/3 of the price😀
I absolutely love your style of reviewing hardware. Wish you were sponsored so you could get access to more stuff without having to pay out of pocket
Wow thank you for the kind words!!! 🙌🏽
Full Sanwa?!? This is really nice for that price, it's a steal! Comes with features like the USB cable door that other sticks offer for double this price.
This was a great review. What would had killed it even further is if you talked about the build material. How is the plastic? Premium or meh?
This thing is great and easy to mod even further, which makes this an even better value!
You pushed me into it. I came here comparing to the MF F700. I thought I was really going with the Mayflash but the more I researched the more I wanted the dark matter. It's been ordered and will be here in 2 days. Beyond pumped! Great review! 🎉
Let us know how you get on please. Want to get a f700 elite later this year but open to other ideas
@@jdizzle1779 I'm on day 4. So far, I'm head over heals in love. For the price point it's everything I wanted. The sticks and buttons feel exactly how you'd expect, and the box build feels very sturdy without being overly heavy. The stock artwork doesn't pop in color quite like I had hoped, but it still looks incredible. The mod switches, and l3 +r3 buttons are a very nice touch. I had been looking for a pair of sticks like this for my Launchbox / BigBox set up. I will be getting another... And when I do... My son is gonna freak! A very welcome purchase! Would highly recommend.
Just pulled the trigger and ordered mine, too. First fight stick!
Nice review man, I'm new to the fight stick scene but I think your review has cinched it for the Monoprice stick for me. I've had a good experience with their other gear in the past and I like the aesthetic of the Dark Matter stick.
Thank you!!! And I agree, it’s an awesome design. I’ve been using Monoprice products since 2011…great stuff!
@@bruiseleroy008 Yep, I got the Dark Matter stick a week ago and I managed to nab it from Walmart online for only 95 bucks before tax! Super steal getting Sanwa parts at this price point. I've already swapped out the gate for a true octagonal and I'm looking into some custom art. Think I might've found a new niche of hardware I want to start collecting. Thanks again for your video, man!
Great review. However, this looks like a GameSir C2 with a Dark Matter template rather than an actual Dark Matter stick. While they are essentially the same, and have many other names, the button signs on the acrylic piece are all different. With an original Dark Matter unfortunately being more bland than the one you have, in case someone really likes the way yours looks.
Also worth noting if someone wants a wireless version, look at the LeEco LEGFS-201.
Does C2 also have Sanhwa parts?
@@macs0544 Yes. All the variants do.
What sanwa lever using in this model? Is it legit sanwa?
That's a great price for a full Sanwa setup. Seems solid! Might have to pick one up.
Yup, definitely caught my eye immediately for full Sanwa!
Another great looking stick at a great price that's impossible to buy locally in the UK (import only). 😮💨 This country bro!
Oh no, sorry to hear! Hopefully these will make it to your area soon!
Daija Arcade Stick
See you get right to the review. None of that unboxing nonsense. Props.
Appreciate that! 🙌🏽
Scored this for $99. This is the best fight stick for the price. This is my daily driver. Easy to mod too. I swapped out the lever for a Crown 309-mj, and the buttons with gamerfingers. Great stick!
This is just the information I was looking for! I play Tekken 7 and I’m a Mishima player and I heard that Korean lever is more optimal so I was wondering if this stick was compatible with K lever I’m glad you answered the question I haven’t been able to find an answer to so thanks a lot! You just cleared up my apprehension for choosing to buy this as my first arcade stick!
Wow! It's a great deal at retail....$99 is crazy good! That custom setup sounds awesome, and I might try out some different components as well. Enjoy it!
Holy Hadouken! $99 where, when, how?... I need the plug
@@gameabull I work on the same block as one of their store front. I might as well visit them during lunch!!!!!
it's time to use a Brooks' UFB?
@@bruiseleroy008 Thanks. I have been. I may go with a sanjucks lever or the Knee lever to try out next. But so far the only think I haven’t done is swap out the art. Not that it’s hard. I’m just too busy enjoying playing Tekken 7, Guilty Gear Strive, Melty Blood, etc..
Razor panthera evo and mayflash 500 elite had a baby this would be it
heh good one!
I'm not sure if I can trust this video solely due to the fact of how he pronounced Sagat. lol
Dissasembling mine now to swap out artwork, square gate to octo and maybe convert to brooks wireless board. Great stick for the money!
Oh that’s awesome! I too want to try out octo 🤔
@BruiseLeroy I took it apart and felt the wireless board was over my head. I just swapped the actuator to 1mm with a Lil grease, 4 lb spring and octogate and now it's perfect.
You would definitely do better with the Razer Panthera EVO instead. I have the Prototype Atrox over a decade ago and the creaking problem was my main complaint and loose USB Type B connection as feedback.
Monoprice Darkmatter is probably my main recommendation as it has probably one of the better form factor design and with the money you're saving, if anyone really wanted to play on consoles without the controller piggyback, just invest in a Brook Wingman converter for an extra $40 - $50.
Yes, I’ve been liking the Dark Matter stick a lot. Will look into the brook converter for my son that plays on xBox. 👍🏽
Where can you find the Razer Panthera EVO because no places sell it anymore
I got mine used for only 109 it reminds me of the TE stick from street fighter 4
$109 is awesome, and yes, that’s probably why I like it so much; I used the TE2 for several years straight haha 😂
Great review! I'm going to buy this arcade stick!
Awesome! It’s definitely one of the best and possibly unbeatable at this price!
Bro its just a gamesir rebrand. Its p solid for the sanwa parts but if you own a gamesir or an ego this stick is pointless.
Warning to anyone watching, I do not believe this arcade stick works with the PS5
Not officially, but some have stated success with certain PS5 games when connecting to a PS4 controller.
I bought a brook adapter and everything works soooo good and no lag
Can confirm you need brooks adapter
@@xpcwolfman505I'd rather get the brook adapter than pay the prices they want for a PS5 stick. That crap is unacceptable imo
i just bought one. i was hesitant as i have had steering wheels in the past that are set-up with having to plug an Xbox controller into it to make the Xbox recognize it and didnt like them very much. i figured it would work better with an arcade stick over a wheel. it was this or the 8bitdo but i like the bigger size of this board.
In the UK you can get this stick but it’s called the DRAGON SLAY Universal Arcade Fight Stick, bit of a mouthful 😂 but would agree it’s a fantastic bit of kit.
Solid review! Been thinking of picking one up!
Yah buddy!!!!
Wow what are the odds, 😅I was listening then heard the song at 2:30 mark that I've been using for months as my Ending Stream music... made me think my OBS scene had been clicked by mistake
Haha I like your taste in music....That is an excellent track!!! 😄
@BruiseLeroy thanks, indeed it is
Ive never heard a joystick clicking in the arcade before whats all that clicking on the joystick?
I'm basically a new fighting game player and was looking for some good advice. I recently bought Guilty Gear Strive which is very well done in terms of tutorials, missions and combo guide. But although I'm really enjoying playing with the PS5 D-pad, I'm having a lot of trouble executing some moves and was considering buying an arcade stick. Is this arcade stick good for getting started? Also, it is also compatible with PS5 system? A thousand thanks. Ready to hear other suggestions. Thanks!
Does it work with a series s? Since the new update?
I think am going to get this 😊
What about the PCB in it? I wonder how it compares to a brooks universal board
great review... work's on xbox 360?
Do you know if this will work with the Brook WingmanFGC?
Isnt this the generic chassis that the mad catz ego is a clone of
why do they come in square gates by default.. I hate square gates so much... I remember buying the sf4 for ps3 and when I opened them to find a square gate. I was so pissed. I had to order them and wait 6 weeks for delivery..
Isnt this the same chasis as gamesir and madcatz ego?
Yes it is.
Mi arcade control no reconoce el play 5 ni el último Xbox me ayudas q pasa
i cant connect with nintendo switch..and i have tried ..soo many ways...help HEELP
how does it compare to the Madcatz TE 2+??
It looks like a Gamesir C2.
I've heard that they are very similar, if not the same chassis.
It is. It’s the exact same chassis. Just like Madcatz ego stick. It’s all the same chassis.
Sup dude. No uploads in a while. Hope everything is alright with you.
Does this have a brookes ufb?
Does this stick work on PS5 games? SF6? If not, did you try with Mayflash Magicboots for ps4?
Did you find this out? I'm about to buy this. It would be nice if I could use it on the ps5.
@@ZCodeBLEACH It won't work. You would need something like the Brook Wingman FGC Converter
That looks similar to gamesir c2 arcade stick
Can anyone help, I can’t get it to work on Pc!
Not compatible with the PS5 hence the price
can I fit a seimitsu ls32 in there?
are these brooks pcb?
Does it work on PS5 ??
Sorry, I play solely on PC, but unofficially I believe it works for some PS5 games, when pairing it with a PS4 controller
the struggle on execution in street fighter 2 😅sf5 (and 6) has execution way too dumbed down imo
Where could I get this
?
Have you never heard of the description
You can find it here: www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43710
too bad its not compatible with p5
Yah, while I do hear about people getting it to work fine with PS5 in some games, it's kind of tricky.
@@bruiseleroy008it works when playing ps4 games on ps5, but not native ps5 games. This controller goes by different names. Madkats ego and Sparkfox and few others.
does this arcade stick work on ps5?
I don’t believe so.
Not officially, but some have stated success with certain PS5 games when connecting to a PS4 controller.
Is it possible to swap the built-in board with a brook universal board for example?
Ps5 compatible?
Not officially, but some users have paired it with some PS5 games by connecting a DualShock 4 controller!
Only works with PS4 games on PS5, doesn't work with native PS5 games.
I'm scared of buying this stick because in the website says that it contains Phthalates, and that somehiow can produce cancer :P
Basically all products nowadays will have that warning or some other prop 65 chemical that can cause cancer. No worries at this point on this stick vs others. 👌🏽
@@bruiseleroy008 Thanks for the reply dude and sorry for my late answer. ;)
Why are controllers so expensive ?
There are a lot of cheaper options out there, but this one has authentic Sanwa components (same as in actual arcade cabinets). Most of this quality are in the $200-$300 range 🙀
@@bruiseleroy008 are keyboards suboptimal for fighting games?
Does it work with xbox series s/x?
You ever figure out if it does
It does!!! 😁
Ps4 nativo
lol😆how many time are they gonna keep using these stick model and giving it a new name lol
Lol if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it? Hehe. What are some of the new chassis out there? I’m looking to replace the Panthera….
you won't break it the panthera is a good stick
Dude I was really enjoying the video until the point you showed the Rattle..... the rattle is not in Panthera. Its on the table or the way its kept on the table. I disliked the video for this unfair comment about disgracing Panthera this way. You are trying to say that a Merceds is better than Toyota coz Toyota has less features and is easy to maintain.
Sorry you feel that way, but I assure you that the rattles and squeaks are coming 100% from the Panthera and not the desk. Nothing else against it, but it is very creaky during use. Kudos to you if the Panthera is your go-to stick, it just isn't for me, and there's no reason for me to knock it for no reason.
@@bruiseleroy008 maybe you have got a bad piece. For mine (touchwood) I have to use a lot of force before it squeals a bit. Peace out ✌️
Please reply to this comment because it’s important for me to know before I buy this stick; am I able to swap out the Japanese lever for a Korean lever? I hear Korean lever is best for me based on the characters I play for Tekken 7 but to my understanding not all sticks are compatible with fitting a Korean lever in them so I need to know.
Sorry, but I've never used a korean lever, but I do read people switching from the JLF and back again, so it should be compatible. What does the wiring setup look like on a korean lever vs the 5-pin on the JLF? There are plenty of conversion harnesses available, if needed...
You read my mind. I was just about to post the same question.
Think you responded to me. But YES YOU CAN! Haha.
I have the Crown-309-mj in mine now. Before that I had the Taeyoung Fanta. Both works flawlessly. The 309 battop feels better in my hands.
the layout is outdated
Why all sticks comes with sanwa? I have sanwa. Its so loose. are there some seimitsu sticks out there?
True, most of the enthusiast and above grade sticks like these come with Sanwa, probably because they are one of the highest in demand. Luckily Seimitsu levers can be had at about $20-$30, and wouldn't be hard to swap into this chassis.
GameCir C2
MadCatz E.G.O
Good point, but the Dark Matter model has the best price!
Sparkfox also
Daija Arcade Stick
Also the Dragon Slay stick
Just got mine today. Amazing stick for $120, wtf monoprice lol you're making all these other companies look like shit. Joystick has an amazing design and is VERY sturdy like he stated. Im really shocked this thing only cost $120. Would have paid $175 - $200 no question. Wanted an ettoki, but they didn't ship to my state. This is probably just as good for 1/3 of the price😀
Yes, agreed 💯%! It’s an amazing stick for the price, and in the same level as competitors costing much more! $$$
I really don't like Sanwa.
I honestly have not tried a ton of alternatives, other than product from Hori. What do you recommend?
@@bruiseleroy008 Samducksa (Crown) buttons with Cherry MX Green microswitches.
@@bruiseleroy008 It's hard to find something better than Daija Arcade Stick v2