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Oi I remember being smashed and wanting to fight everyone. Cop looked at me and smiled and said," Go home son,Youre wankered" Best advice ever when i woke up in the morning
The police brought my son home on his stag night after his mates stole his clothes and left him blind drunk in his underwear on the pavement.
@@gillianrimmer7733 HA HA, Wetting myself laughing.Youre lucky he had his pants on and a tree branch where it shouldnt be! Thank you for making me laugh
The police putting the man on the naughty bench to sit and think about growing up is genuinely hilarious because it’s what you do with actual toddlers.
My white UK ass would have been red raw if my mum ever heard me do this
Good to see old fashioned sensible policing still exists
@@jacquelinekingdom2040 i agree
36:05 the caption should have said Humberside not homicide LoL
It’s about de-escalation it’s not so much the swearing itself, the man was becoming belligerent and wouldn’t listen. Remember our police have no guns so being able to talk down violent people rather than shoot them should be respected. The peeing on the street is taken seriously because it’s disgusting and it smells especially when they urinate up shop windows.
Good a voice for reason, drunk disorderly including swearing.
I was thinking the same (as a swede, so I'm just trying to be logical and european here), but also regarding the swearing it's about the verbal abuse these officers have had to endure in order to get to that point. So basically "Hey, you're not respecting my working environment and I've given you A LOT (if not more than that) chances to stop".
The reason why we deal with people for abusive language and swearing is because when people are drunk and running their mouth they end up causing violent disorder. They’ll say the wrong thing to the wrong person and fights will start. Best to deal with them before that happens.
The offence requires both Drunk AND disorderly...
It's not simply a matter of using offensive language... It requires you to be lairy as well
@@animated_ads OR disorderly.
Police abuse that power all the time. They use it to arrest good people who may have just described something with fucking or the like
@@animated_adsno it doesn't ,can be charged with public nuisance or breaching the peace
In many countries other than the U.S. We have respect for others and find that people using offensive language in public is offensive. No way are Police in other countries would be allowed to swear and curse like they do in the US.
I find being arrested for swearing less insane than being charged in America for crossing the street where you like tbf.
Or having a beer in public.
Being arrested for swearing is ridiculous. Police swear all the time......... They just tend to use it as an excuse to arrest someone who's aggravating them.
This program is 17 years old. police nowadays won’t arrest you for swearing or peeing in the street and that was just a tactic of Grimsby police to stop problems occurring later in the night
@@fatsam2564 that's not actually true my mate was arrested three years ago in Macclesfield for taking a piss in a doorway a half eleven at night
@@BulldogMack700rs most police nowadays will give you a on the spot fine or a caution unless you start kick off
It should have said ‘Humberside’ not ‘Homicide.’ That is brilliant.😂😂
You mentioned the immediate aggression from US cops in similar situations. Quite right - and this is why the US cops have such a poor relationship with the public. Ours don't walk on water, but they are far better at diffusing situations and not being unnecessarily aggressive. A lot of this (I.e arresting someone for swearing, or drunken disorderly) is more prevention as he would have definitely gone on to drink more and potentially get into a fight.
And once again worth mentioning that the public order offence requires continued bad language after warning, and whilst drunk
Also look into how long each gets trained, before they are a police officer.
If we'd had the same prevalence of gun culture over here over the past 30 years we'd probably have the same issues with police relations if not worse. If anybody perp or onlooker 'might' be armed it changes the policing dynamic somewhat.
Us cops are up against guns! Every potential call or traffic stop could include a gun so you have to excuse the aggression but US cops are actually risking their lives unlike U.K. police.
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Yes. Aren't they silly?
Don't be confused by the warnings about swearing; as they already said this is zero tolerance exercise (which I remember being adapted from the zero tolerance practice of the 1980s in New York. It was one of the things that worked in the 1980s and 90s in NY. Here they working to prevent drunken behaviour from escalating to serious violence. You get a group of very drunk young men interacting with other groups of the same; it goes up through stages with swearing, shouting, pushing and physical contact and then the chance of actual violence. The police strategy is cut it off at the lower points before it gets to violence.
Agreed, and as they said a few times, the arrest and fine is for Disorderly Conduct - which is not _specifically_ for swearing, but for _threatening, abusive or disorderly behaviour._ Those lads were given fair warning, and £80 is the lowest end of the scale for an adult.
@@memkiii Spot on!
Yep, did it plenty growing up haha
There comes a point where it is just a waste of public money - like chasing a young lad half way around town with choppers for swearing - I’d say that’s a bit ridiculous and a waste of my tax money!
@@dannyboywhaa3146 Talk to the experts about it! There are lots of things in practise that are worth short-term over expenditure.
Drunk people can be a bloody nightmare, and I think UK police deal with it pretty well most of the time.
The biggest difference is how cops approach situations. From what I've personally seen, cops in the USA immediately escalate situations due to some kind of ego reason, or some kind of need to show aggressive authority immediately. Whereas most other western countries, it's not like that.
Maybe not in these situations, but I don't think they escalate due to ego. I think having the fear someone pulling a gun, forces you to escalate first, otherwise you get shot first. If you're doing that daily, your job is literally a battle field.
@@sharingiscaring1952 Your comment would make sense if American cops didn't treat armed and unarmed citizens almost the same. Even if it's clear they have no weapons and have already been searched, and sometimes already even cuffed, the attitude american police emit is something else completely.
Yup. Same in Australia too. Similar approach to UK.
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Why don't you simply ban guns? It would make everything so much simpler.
@@robertcottam8824 It would help. About 95% of Americans support some kind of reasonable gun control legislation (licensing, universal background checks, mandatory training, secure storage, insurance requirements, red flag gun removals, etc) However, a) the Constitution includes a right to bear arms and b) the gun manufacturers and private prison lobby own huge numbers of politicians at the local, state, and national levels. Every time kids get murdered in a school, sensible people demand stronger gun legislation and thousands of gun nut whack jobs run out to stock up on even more guns and ammo. The gun makers and gun shops literally make a killing on every mass killing.
Fun Fact: You can't be arrested for trespassing on land in England and Wales. It's a completely civil matter. ie you can't be arrested for simply walking across someone's land or even camping or parking your car on someone's land. The Police might attend to make sure the peace is kept but there is no criminal offence in trespassing.
Except where it is MoD land, Airports, Dockyards etc.
Not exactly true, the police have been given more powers under the sentencing and courts act 2022. Which applies to people camp illegally. The new criminal offence will be punishable by a prison sentence of up to 3 months, or a fine of up to £2,500, or both, and/or seizure of the vehicle.
@@xhogun8578 Does that include camping in woodland and such? This govt is getting more and more draconian by the day... America is looking more and more favourable.
@@megadesu69 The new laws that came in under the new 2022 act stem from the protests carried out by the Eco mob. There is now a clear line defining those who are camping for leisure and those who are setting up camps that stop people from carrying out their daily business. There are calls for a new law that makes it illegal to block an Ambulance or fire engine when responding to an emergency call
@@Westcountrynordic Thanks for the clarification
I used to be a police officer. I've had to do my fair share of this type of policing. Usually we'd see drunken people being abusive and swearing. We often just let them. We'd warn them and be on our way. If they continued then we'd usually cuff them, put them in the van, let them calm down for 10 -20 minutes. We'd then explain that as it was friday night they wouldn't get processed until monday morning making them late for work or university. Also we patrolled a small town and every person's name that was charged with an offense was published in the local paper. So their employers or school would know exactly why you were late. That usually made them sober up pretty quick and then we'd let them go, or sometimes drop them off at home if it was on our way.
Just to add what you were saying about the non uk police. We tend to be a lot more friendly with drunk people. Alcohol can often make people more aggressive and confrontational so we were taught to be friendly, agree with them, and not add to an already tense situation.
Sometimes just a friendly talk as one person to another is a heck of a lot better than trying to boss people about and causing an already angry guy to go too far.
I was happy to get out of that area and worked hard and got my promotions to DI (detective inspector) now I just see visibly disturbing murders. Put me back on the streets talking to drunk people anytime. Haha.
Thankfully I don't do that job anymore. The only thing I miss is the car and the gun they gave me. haha
The translation you wanted from the pissing guy was “I’ve never even been for a piss have I?”
I live in bish a bish shabby 15:59
@@harv3y874I came here for this exact comment 😂
@@harv3y874except it was bish a bish abbey, which is 10x more posh/hilarious
When my son planned a pub crawl I asked the police what advice to give him. The officer said to remind him to pee before leaving the pub. Peeing in the street near or on pavement stinks. It is a health hazard and unpleasant for shop workers to clear up. Please Respect other people's environment.
As a child, I'm 54, we had a local Bobby. He would walk the streets and we loved him. Sad now, imo. When I was naughty he would tell me why I was wrong. 🇬🇧👵👏 Also my mums, wait to your father gets home, a threat to behave yet dad never shouted but his disappointment made me cry. I loved him, Normandy hero, was 42 when I was born, mistake. ❤👵🇬🇧
totally agree
We had a wonderful village Bobby. Now the police station is a private residence.
Miss him, always thought our Bobby kept his sandwich under his hat. I loved him.
@@xhogun8578 Sad days, why can't we rely on them now?
We can't trust them anymore because they don't live amongst us anymore mine lived in the next street in the corner house he even had his front door painted police blue in my twenty years of knowing him and his wife who also helped him unofficial with women I can remember him scolding us then joking with our farthers in the local pub how he court us at some thing they themselves had done when they were young but in twenty years he only arrested two men for family disputes he had no quoter to hit every month his patch was quite if men got out of line he would take his jacket off and indulge in a boxing lesson with the miscreant in this way the man had no criminal record if you could beat him all well and good if not then the next time he saw you in the pub he would get you a drink also in a funny way he was the right hand of the church if the vicar needed help in any way he had a list of men and boys who with a word here or there would be happy tho help the vicar many houses got a new coat of paint or the garden sorted out
American police are trained in violent confrontations as a matter of course. They freely admit that. UK police are trained to de-escalate a situation whenever possible. That's a huge and life saving difference. Its a matter of attitude and responsibility. We choose to police with the consent and support of the public....and often get it. The US sees it as going into battle......and usuallly get one. A thousand years ago we had the 'hue and cry' where everyone was expected to cease their work, down tools and pursue criminals at any time, which was very inconvenient, so eventually police forces were created to do the job in our place. That doesn't mean we should avoid our own responsibilities and look the other way in the present day. We all have a duty to society
It a fact, that WPC’s can help calm situations down, especially with drunk men. Even though she’s a cop, they still show some respect for women. ❤
Tbh, on the incident where the lad was collared for swearing, the likely reason was he was obviously leathered, unable to conrol his mouth and the cop judged he was an accident waiting to happen. So maybe better to seize the excuse to get him off the street than wait until someone levels him.😁
He was one hundred percent a timebomb, early intervention was the best thing for him
If they're not stopping after that many warnings then it just shows their lack of self control and as it says in the video, the police were trying to intervene with situations before they escalated. If they lack self control that much, to the point where its basically harassment, then they're likely to get into worse trouble later on if not stopped
It's preventative, he almost certainly would've gone on to cause more serious trouble, best thing for him is to get him off the streets for the night
Yeah its also to free up police time. Tax payers don't want them standing there for hours watching idiots.
If they can't arrest him, they have to either watch him until he goes away. Or leave and he will likely get his head punched in for starting on the wrong person.
The guy wasn't arrested specifically for swearing, he was done for "public order" which includes offensive, disruptive or mildly antisocial behaviour.
And they gave them PLENTY of opportunity to "get in a taxi and go home"...
In relation to the headwear, the men are wearing custodian helmets and the women wear a bowler. Up until a few years ago, women could only wear the bowler style hat and men wore either the custodian helmet or a peaked cap. I believe nowadays people have a choice on which to wear.
Many Idiots are removed from volatile situations with a 'Public Order Offence', (swearing) allowing the Police to remove them from an active scene rendering it less chaotic, these individuals are often De-Arrested after the aforementioned situation becomes adequately manageable.
Uk police when possible will prefer to tell people hey "mate your drunk it's time to go home before you do something stupid" they will often issue them a notice to leave the area for a certain length of time mainly because arresting people means a lot of paperwork and they would rather avoid that hassle .... Unfortunately some people just leave them no choice
He was not arrested for swearing, like people do in conversation. He was arrested for swearing at the police.
But swearing at the police is not an offence.
@@Den_CZcams_handle_bullshit swearing at the police is a crime if you've done it more than once after being warned
No he wasn't, since that's free speech.
@@clint-thenormalguy-rockwell365 No it isn't, them "warning" you is irrelevant as it's free speech.
@@jimmoynahan9910 you don't know British law. Free speech does give you the right to verbally assault an officer
Down in the South of England there are these very clever urinals which automatically rise from the ground in the night so that there’s 4 urinals in the street which self clean and then lower back into the ground in the early morning. It’s a great idea. You wouldn’t even notice it’s there until it’s night time.
You what..? 😂 where “in the south” are these things..?
Ohh,you should see the public toilets in Bucharest,Romania....they look like they are coming from the future.....
@@markhepworth1556
Wherever there are southerners under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs, I suppose. Or maybe they have them at the Bullshitter's Ball. (Southern Branch)
@@markhepworth1556 well I know they have them in London.
Maidstone used to have one.
You're right - approachable authority is necessary for community policing.
He wasn't specifically arrested for swearing, it was a public order offence, drunken swearing, threatening etc. You are right about UK vs American cops though. In UK nobody is afraid of the police because we know they can't do much except throw you in a cell for the night and give you a fine, so there's not as much tension. In UK drunken lads will swear at cops all the time. Imagine swearing like that at a US cop.
It is not an offence to swear at a cop in either the UK or the US
The public order offences are just a license to print money as they have such a loose remit cops can charge pretty much anyone with it and try to fine them right there are then.
You don't get 'arrested for swearing'. The charge is being 'Drunk and disorderly'.
You get the same treatment in Australia. Most of us get taught to be respectful to the police when we are kids, regardless of what you think of them or the situation. Some respect goes a long way but the other thing is that very few people are armed. The police here do have guns and tasers but they usually try to resolve the matter without violence or people getting locked up. They said Humberside at the end but the captions showed it as homicide.
The police have gotten so dangerous and out of control here in the US that I've had serious discussions with my teens about how to respond to aggressive cops to avoid serious injury. They are to comply meekly while immediately asking for our lawyer and invoking their 5th Amendment right to say nothing. And we're a white upper-middle-class family. My heart breaks for the kinds of life-or-death discussions our African-American and dark-skinned Asian neighbors must have to have with their children.
I live in Grimsby, I avoid the town centre on a night because of what you see in this tv programme.Since this programme was filmed there have being a number of changes in Grimsby Town Centre where they filmed places have closed being replaced with other businesses. Laurence Brown Lost in the Pond is from Grimsby. Hull is 34 miles from Grimsby. PCs wear a cap or helmet and WPCs wear the hat you see In the programme. It is the River Freshney in Grimsby. The narrator said Humberside the police are Humberside police, Grimsby and Hull were in the county of Humberside from 1sr April 1974-31st March 1997 Grimsby returned to Lincolnshire creating a brand new county North East Lincolnshire and Hull returned to East yorkshire. There is rivalry between Grimsby and Hull due to football.
It's also worth mentioning that Grimsby is right next to a holiday resort". Cleethorpes - which is always going to add more "fun" on a Friday night. Hull also has a large student population - always good for a drunken riot in any town.
In the UK, you can't be arrested for swearing in public unless a person makes a complaint. However the police can't be the complainant as the courts have deemed it an occuptional hazzard for police officers.
It doesn't take much to ask a friendly bouncer who he's already swarn at repeatedly if he was offended. I've seen it done.
Drunken fights/assaults are common in many UK cities & towns, especially on Fri & Sat nights.
Our drinking culture is absolutely disgusting
@@kingofracism No its not,its the best part of this country,work all week then go out on the lash,bet you are fun at parties
National pastime
@@StewartEvans52 it absolutely is. It lowers our life spans, it lowers our fertility (which means we have to import more tax payers, because we don't produce enough children), it contributed to the mass sexual grooming of children because of the disgusting teenage culture of drinking and drugs. I cannot think of anything good that our drinking culture produces.
@@animated_ads Only for those who have no self-control. As a young man, my friends and I looked down on someone who let drink get the better of him. A real man only drinks what he can handle.
Hi! Those hats you we're wondering about, the old ones you we're thinking of are called Custodian's, they are used for foot patrols, and that fedora thing you we're talking about is called a Bowler, they are used by females, and those caps are for men. If you see some white hats/caps, they are traffic cops, Roads & Transport Policing Command and Roads Policing Unit.
Have a lovely day!
And if you're in a patrol car the big helmet needs to be taken off and replaced when entering and leaving the vehicle.
On the other hand, if you notice, the back of the helmet protects the back of the neck so they can be useful if things get exciting.
Swearing "at" the police is considered something that if allowed to continue may be considered ok so the drunk may escalate to the next stage there has to be a cut off point .
he wasn't arrested for swearing he was arrested for being drunk and disorderly. shouting and swearing usually leads to a fight, they gave him several warnings he kept on doing it.
if he has shut his mouth and walked away he wouldn't have been arrested.
The police are quite lenient like they said he's on his final warning meaning he's already been told several times before he was arrested and he would of been arrested for being drunk and disorderly.
He says a couple of slightly different things around 16:20 - but it's basically "I aint even been for a piss"
Hi Connor the Hull accent is very distinctive so it's not surprising you couldn't understand everything that was said. It is said in England that on average the accent can change every 20 miles or so and can change within the same city. I am from Hull myself and the accent is slightly different in different parts of Hull.
Very true ,especially in Yorkshire and Humberside
@@anthonybentham4378 Humberside? Where's that? 😂
PC Palmer casually pulling the guy from the river was genuinely impressive - I did not expect him to be such a good lifesaver!
You can’t proceed with a report of an assault when you don’t have a complainant. He might change his mind in the morning when he’s sober. Then the police will take the report.
Lol that captions translation was hilarious
Too be honest a lot of people say "the binge drinking culture" is because pubs and clubs are open a lot longer and often have cheap drinks on offer. When I was younger,17-18 we used to go to a club where if you paid £10 about $15 entry before 10pm all drinks were free. But the main reason for this binge drinking is work. People are working more and more hours each week so they only get 1 night to blow off some steam, so they do.
the 9 to 5 job no longer exists. Gone are the days where you'd come home from work, have some food the a shower and go to the local pub for 4 or 5 pints be home around 10pm. Now with all this new tech and being able to work on laptops and phones at home people can work more and more.
I got into a grimy club for a fiver and free drinks for the night 🤪. Was in there 5 nights a week. Like a grimy dingey nightclub! There's no time for much these days, you're right. I used to think my life was stressful but compared to life the way it is now, it was pretty chill.
Think people can't escape work these days with phones, damn shame.
If someone doesn’t want to press charges when they’re assaulted, there’s nothing the police can do about it. It can be very frustrating for the police.
In domestic abuse cases the police can prosecute
Can get done for conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace.
particular irritation of mine - encourage people into town, provide a load of drink then no toilets. even in the day time its hard to find a public toilet in a town at times. People have to pee, unless you provide loos, people are going to pee where they have to. Fair enough, right in the middle of the street is not on, but behind a wall somewhere quiet? Been cases of parents with little kids getting fined by letting them pee at the edge of a park or something when there's no toilet available. Fix the problem by providing an alternative rather than just punishing the behaviour again and again.
The lad who urinated said: "I've haven't even been for a piss, have I?" and then: "I haven't even been for a piss."
As a British guy I really enjoyed your comparisons of US vs UK cops. Worth remembering UK cops are not routinely armed and it isn't swearing he was arrested for but section 5 of the 'public Order Act' it's not the bad words but the potential distress to the public he's causing.
28:32 love the fact he still has the rose 😂
This is literally like everywhere in the U.K. it’s strange because we are all used to it. Glad to see this content. Us British go HARD every time!!!
I was never like that. Ever. Cos we didn't have cameras on us all the time 😉
Yep Norwich on a Friday Saturday night absolute carnage
@@carlmarch9591 Good ol' Prince of Wales 🤣Been a while since I've been out in the city!
@@english_electric7125 if I ever have to drive down there on a Friday Saturday night the memories come back to haunt me 😂
The Police in Britain are a public servant and most times will address a male member of the public as "Sir" but I have noticed in America the public seem to address Police officers as "Sir"
They explained why they couldn't take the assault any further. No one saw it and the guy that was assaulted won't cooperate with an investigation, so there was nothing they could do. I don't see why that is so hard to understand.
Pissing on the street is disgusting.
In the uk excessive swearing in public is illegal it’s classified as a public order offence
Swearing isn't an offence but disrupting public order is so they just use swearing as an excuse to get you off the street. They'll sleep it off and be out in the morning. Apart from the woman who cut off someone's ear. That's jail time.
British cops are pretty mellow but are great exponents of "fuck around and find out."
This is the worst side of British culture, binge drinking, drunkenness and puking in the streets. You'd think people go out on a Friday night to have fun? Some seem to just like to have memory blanks.
Other countries don't have anything like this, heck in France children have alcohol at dinner it when our kids get a chance they get slashed.
16:20 he said "i ain't even been for a p!ss, have i?"
Translation: "One was unaware that i had urinated"
😂
Swearing isn't a criminal offence on its own but when it's used in a manner that could come across as aggressive, threatening or antagonising (in other words a precursor to violent crime) then it can be treated as public order offence or breach of the peace.
I live in Hull, can confirm Friday & Saturday nights can be a little wild in the city centre. As for the headgear you were asking about, male & female officers have different hats. Only the men wear the 'nipple' helmets and even then it's only on foot, officers in patrol cars will wear a similar hat to US cops.
Ey up Mark, I love in the last sentece how the subtitles managed to turn Humberside into Homicide!!! (laughs). As a proud Yorkshireman it's always going to be the East Riding of Yorkshire for me, and with "The Deep" Hull has got the best day out in the country!!
I live in Hull too (well Cottingham, but right on the border, and I work in Hull) and have had many many pub crawls on Fridays and Saturdays in town, and have seen police only a few times, and have definitely never seen blood spilt haha. These cop shows love to dramatise stuff
Is the bar Fuel still around? I went to uni in Hull & had some brilliant nights out on the town. You northern bunch are hilarious 😂
@@WoodlandAsh yes it's still very much alive
Ha I remember at old hull city games everybody singing 'whos that twat with a nipple on his head?' (yellow submarine tune) whenever the police walked past
Lol ‘I haven’t been for a piss, have I? I haven’t been for a piss!’ I love how you didn’t get a single word 😂😂😂👍
When I was a lad growing up in Hull the city centre was a bit like the Wild West. Police on horseback charging down the street was pretty common on a Friday night. It’s very different these days, I suspect a lot of places are. I think the drinking culture has changed a lot.
I don’t know how old you are but I’m 40 and lived in Hull my entire life. Been going drinking in town since age 17 and it’s never been like that. Most of the time they walk by and can’t be bothered.
@@cookeymonster83 I’ve got 10 years on you. Late 80s is the time I’m thinking of, mounted police were always outside Hull Cheese back then.
I was out in old town last summer, n there was police on horses near silvers , it was quite a busy night though
Hull city centre is weirdly dead on weekends these days. Its pretty terrifying down bev road or spring back any night though.
Hull is my home town, my dad is from Grimsby. It’s kinda crazy watching you watch a video like this. We have a big drinking culture here and it used to be a good night out but too many like to fight for fun, I know a few people have been killed after being punched and banging their head on the concrete. We tend to day drink now rather than have a night out, it’s generally a better atmosphere! Enjoy your channel and reactions mate keep it up!
Sadly, this happens in most major cities and towns up and down the UK. Almost always at weekends.
To be honest the police do an amazing job ,there pretty tolerant. I think it's fair to say the police pour in alot resources in these problem areas .
Someday these drunken revellers will look back on this drunken and disorderly police video and say, I can’t believe I did that. But I suppose it’s part and parcel of life, and some of us have to make mistakes until we realise we want to change our ways and live a better life. I’m 51 now, but I remember numerous times when I was young, getting drunk with your mates, but I never liked the feeling when I was off my head, not knowing if I’m coming or going because I’ve drunk too much, especially when you lose your mates and you have to find your way back home, spewing your guts up on the pavement and looking worst for wear when you get home and you look at yourself in front of the mirror, and say, never again will I drink, but the following weekend you do it all again. 😂
Yup. My sons hit the partying stage, I worry so much when he's out, but that's cos I know what I was up to in the 90s! I'd go off to the toilets and next thing find myself in someone's house . I didn't get too smashed, wasn't much of a drinker. Still found myself in some weird situations at times 😁. I'd do the 90s all over again to be fair. Just too tired now, total lightweight.
The guy in the river was seconds away from death he was literally going under so much respect for that police officer. And the people singing need a hero 🤦♂️ absolute idiots
30:30 Oh no, PC Paul Tufnel's accent is challenging? I think he's from the same part of Staffordshire as me.
Hey my friend, greetings from the UK ! Love your videos. Swearing isn't illegal in the UK, as far as I know, I think it only becomes a problem when you swear at a cop. Keep up the good work buddy
its a public order issue
Thanks Stevan!
Not true. It has to be likely to cause alarm harassment or distress to another member of the public. Which in reality would be very rare. But the police like to arrest on it willy nilly and they almost always get dropped by the cps.
You can swear to a police man's face one on one as they aren't included in the act as far as someone being alarmed etc. They can't be the complainant.
The problem with the case of the person who got sliced vs the urinating person is that the police couldn't get any statements of what the aggressor looked like. Not from staff, not from other people and not from the victim. Plus the victim said he just wanted it dropped. What can you do if you have nothing to go on? continue lookingfor the small chance of running into someone who knows something in the sea of people or go for the next task on a very crowded list?
So they are trying to stop the escalation of anti social behaviour. Swearing after multiple warnings, can become pushing, shoving, fighting…
The police in the UK are not usually this vigorous. If you remember at the beginning of the video the police inspector stated... where taking a 'no tolerance' approach. It's up to each individual police force on what kind of approach they're gonna take and in this video their obviously taking the no tolerance approach 😊
Made a very uncomfortable watch. This isn't representative of good policing. They're unnecessarily heavy handed. I understand the idea of zero tolerance but they were escalating and excessive in some parts of that. Some of those officers got too carried away.
This is also policing twenty years ago. The CCTV was time stamped for 2005. Things will have changed.
Its the concept of 'Policing by Consent' which is a phrase used about British Police a lot. 'Peelian Principles'. THe idea is the Police should do their jobs wiht the consent of the public, that they are civilians in Unfirom not am army like occupying force, and that their powers should be transparent to everyone. Now obviously they aren't perfect and even UK police can behave badly but i think the principles are sound.
Its usually the met who forget they are not judges juries and executioners
They can arrest people for swearing due to the HUGE gap in criminality caused by the lack of guns and gun related violence . No " get on the ground NOW " , no screaming " hands behind your head " , and not a single rape incident all night . And all that in a country that classifies Jaywalking as an offence ??
10:00 you are so correct. As a child I remember my father telling me that aggression breeds aggression
he said "i havent been for a piss" a term used for urinating for people who dont have a large vocabulary
I think weapons are a factor in the difference in the attitude between US and UK police - the chance of deadly violence is lesser in the UK.
16:15 "I haven't even been for a piss, have I?"
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So the offence that they are arrested for is Drunk and Disorderly Conduct. Swearing is evidence of disorderly conduct, but if a sober person was swearing that in and of itself isn't illegal, but if you are drunk AND swear then you can be given a fine. As you saw though, they give them so many warnings to leave and behave themselves that it's more than ok in my opinion.
To give a hypothetical, say you are walking in London with a friend and as you walk past a group of police officers you say "What a F*ing c***" while in conversation. There is not even a remotely possibility that you're going to be arrested and if you are it will be laughed out of court.
If you're drunk and say to a police officer that he is a 'f*ing c***' then yeah, you might get a FPN (fine).
The male and female officers wear different hats. The males wear a helmet, the females a bowler hat, they are equally reinforced for protection.
Swaring is a precursor to aggression in the drunk and disorderly. Thus it is cracked down upon in trouble areas. The language itself is not the offence, but it takes public drunkenness (not itself an offence) to a chargeable behaviour.
I have been drunk to the point where my legs stopped working (stag night). My mates were carrying me home and police attention was attracted. I was able to explain what had happened and that I was being taken home, all was well and we were allowed to continue (with their good wishes for my impending marriage).
Translations.
1. I’ve not even had a pee have I!?
2. Humberside, an area of Hull.
I moved to Spain 30 plus years ago and as a result I've never got a good kicking on a Friday or Saturday night.All of my mates back home have ended up in hospital at the weekend for stitches and lost teeth because if you keep going out to your local nightspot in the UK eventually you end up being battered.
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What a load of bleating bollocks..🤦♂️🤡😂
@@markhepworth1556 Yes,that too.
@@suffern63 😂
A section 5 Public Order offence:
1) A person is guilty of an offence if he/she:
(a) uses threatening [or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."
The custodian helmet (the "old-fashioned helmet") is only worn by males. The other style of hat/helmet you pointed out was being worn by females.
Some police forces no longer wear the custodian helmet at all (e.g. in Scotland). It is not worn by police officers inside motor vehicles either (too tall?).
I thought take off in car and it was depending on rank like new officers have it but higher rank wear the newer hats
@@mlee6050 I think the junior grades wear the peaked cap too.
I wouldn't worry about understanding all the drunken speech, or even the police. I'm from Hull and was having just as much trouble with some parts of the video. The subtitles are worse than useless as the computer has no chance translating our flattened vowels!
There are many UK shows which follow the police & ambulance services.
The captions are so funny, mishearing what's being said. You are so funny too, do you make your friends laugh too? Love you Connor.
When I was a teenager here in the UK, the local officers would often just give us a clip round the ear and send us on our way.
There is no excuse for assault by the police or anyone else. I do hope that you took legal action.
I can manage the accent quite easily, because my mother came from Beverley, a historic town close to Hull. ( Which is quite a big city.) Another commenter has well explained that in 1974, Hull and Grimsby were put together in a new county called Humberside; but this was resented locally , because it was breaking up Yorkshire, which has a very strong identity. It sounds as though they've put Hull ( whose formal name is Kingston-upon-Hull), back into to the East Riding of Yorkshire. (Yorkshire historically has three 'Ridings')
Perhaps the police still call their Constabulary "Humberside'.
The Humber isn't really a river. It's the combination of two estuaries, those of the Ouse and the Trent, and is really an arm of the sea.
You've pretty much got it there - Hull has gone back to Yorkshire, Grimsby to (N.E.) Lincolnshire (actually more than this, but thats the biggest changes), but police, fire, the airport, BBC Radio and BBC generally still use the term
Absolutely and yes Yorkshire really does have its own identity
He said: ''I haven't even been for a piss have I?''
That bloke who peed in the street could run very fast considering he was supposed to be drunk !
Hats in the police. You got the bobby hat, the tall one, thats for foot patrol - men only. You got the peak capped, thats for the men not on footpatrol. You got the bowler that is just for women.
The swearing isn't really the offense, the offense is a "public disorder" offense which can cover a range of things legally but basically covers people being nuisances of themselves. That's why a night in the police cell to sober up and the fine is a public disorder fine.
This something Americans don't get, yes, it appears draconian but as the adage goes "if you deal to the small things, big things tend not to happen" and it works. That's the difference in most other western nations and US. Cops; in the US, cops are basically trained to escalate whereas other nation's cops are trained to de-escalate. It should also be noted that it's child's play to become a cop in the US whereas in other countries, it can take years; in Canada it's college then two years training, psychological testing and further education before you can be a cop. In most states, it's less than 6 months and there is no formal psychological testing in most states. The UK is the same, so while it looks like they're being nip-picky, they're actually helping the community in the long run and most arrests are basically a night in the drunk tank. Like you said Connor, if these were US cops, there'd be bodies dropping all over the place.
As for the "slicing on the head" incident, it's the same in the US. Unless witnesses and/or the victim want to press charges, no charges will be laid. It's that simple. And the guy who whines about the urination is just as clueless. Cops can't press charges unless A) they witness the crime; which the urination was witnessed via CCTV or B) if they are not witness to the crime directly but must make a decision based on whether witnesses and/or the victim ask that charges be brought.
It really isn't that complicated.
A normal fri/sat night in most English towns
Homicide = Humberside. The river Humber runs between Grimsby and Hull, the two towns/cities featured in the episode. That region then, is called Humberside.
Pissing in the street is horrible you just left a pub with a toilet
my daughter is 20 and she works in a nightclub in Portsmouth Southcoast of England so she will have a lot of storeys to tell
Ohhh yes, Guildhall Square can be a nightmare on a Friday/Saturday night! Was a lot of fun when I was younger. I never got this bad, but I saw some real sights!
Prevention is always best. You have to treat these people like kids and get them to think about their actions. It works. They have to learn to respect people around them.
I live in Grimsby, I never go into town. I go to the Yardbirds, which is a nightclub, with live music, owned & run by the Warlocks MC. In 3 yrs I've never seen any problems there, not a chance of any drugs, spiking, harassment or violence! Warlocks make sure you get a safe taxi home! As a single woman, I'm completely safe there. Highly recommended!
Terrible a drain on our NHS which is already under strain , plus the abuse the hospital staff and police recieve is disgraceful . If they could see what they look like they would be embarrassed.
No they wouldn't, and that's a big part of the problem.
@@Collymillad thats chavs for you should be locked up or shipped off to Rwanda
Oh Claire I’m glad you said that, I work A and E in Glasgow and when I said that what a response. I was making the point that these people are taking up time in hospital when genuine people who are I’ll need to be seen and I was accused of only wanting to treat people I liked ( couldn’t understand that conclusion), and that I wasn’t being egalitarian. As I said then wait until it’s your relative, who needs medical attention, having to wait 14 hours on a trolley cause of the drunks coming in. I used to like a good night out as much as anyone but your right it’s such a waste of resources
On occasion I have had to go to A&E at night and it has been hellish. I feel so sorry for the staff. Behaviour of drunk idiots in there has made it dangerous for staff and other patients. Unfortunately they wouldn't be embarrassed at all. When I broke my leg in three places I refused to go to A&E for 24 hours because I couldn't stand the thought of Saturday night drunks. I was in absolute agony but too afraid of the aggression there. They are a disgrace.
@@louisemiller3784 I had to take my 80 year old dad to A&E because he had a blood clot. The drunks were disgusting. I had to leave dad alone in a cubicle for a few minutes and when I came back he was crying. A drunk guy covered in blood had searched dad and his small bag while I was gone. Dad was old, ill and had dementia and was absolutely terrified. But hey, at least the drunk achieved his aim of getting smashed that night so I guess the effect he had on everyone around him didn't matter. Idiot.
He said 'Humberside' at the end. Hull and Grimbsby are on the river Humber, so are referred to as 'Humberside'.
You're getting sleepy after meals AND you need to urinate frequently??? I think you should visit a doctor to check your sugar metabolism out.
I'm not drunk. But those captions make me question me being sober.
You made me laugh so much when you were thinking of something hilarious in your mind! I am terrible for bursting into fits of giggles out of nowhere when something, usually twisted, is conjured up in my sick head! My cat looks at me like I am completely insane! Yep he knows me too well..... I live alone so he sees no justification in my behaviour 🤭🙀There’s a scene in the first few minutes of the original Arthur..... In the back of his chauffeur driven posh car....Dudley Moore goes from a serious drunk face to bursts of laughter to the bewilderment of his companion and says “oh sometimes I just think funny things” 😂 It was one of the first films we got from the video rental shop when I was a little girl.... My mam was always cool with me and my brother watching stuff we shouldn’t as kids.... Apart from The Exorcist 🤭 She was Irish Catholic and terrified by it, but me and me brother thought it was funnier than Airplane! Take care Connor, and thanks again from Julie in England 💋x