My friends & I took N.K. Jemisin's Masterclass on sci-fi & fantasy writing & here's what we learned!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- My friends (@BeccaCSmith and @ShayWithThaHobbies) and I tried N.K. Jemisin's Masterclass! Here's what we learned about science fiction and fantasy writing, world-building, and creating compelling characters!
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D I S C U S S I O N Q U E S T I O N S :
Have you taken any Masterclasses before? What's been your favorite?
Have you ever gotten a story idea during a class? (Whether specifically for writing or during your accounting final or something bahaha.)
Have you heard of the Silver/Golden/etc. ages of sci-fi? Do you know of any equivalents for other genres?
What N.K. Jemisin books have you read??
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SHAY'S VIDEO IS UP NOW TOO! Check it out here: czcams.com/video/2JCCpWmuAF4/video.html
We'll let y'all know about a Masterclass livestream discussion/gushfest soon! :)
"I have a bit of a author crush on N.K" WHEN I SAY I FELT THIS-
"if you are legit good if you work and hone your craft. You will eventually break-in. Because you are a good writer. If your not good yet work hard, get better and then keep trying." My god that is the most useful advice I have ever heard...
There's nothing like starting off a writing day with a new Kate video!
The thing I loved about this one is how she creates a relationship between the disenfranchised communities and the SFF community. She talks at some length, too, about how people with disabilities who are writing specific, that their (our… my…) stories matter, and that we NEED to write them, because we have a voice, and we deserve to use that voice.
Like I said in a previous comment: phenomenal.
Tbh it's refreshing to see a masterclass that's focused more toward intermediate writers because I think most courses focus on basics. that's understandable, but it leaves A LOT of people out
All that to say: you've sold me on it lol
RIGHT. This definitely feels like they knew the gap wasn't being filled AAAAND I loved building the world up with her along the way. Cannot recommend this one enough!!
I agree. Assolutamente. ☺👍
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Um I just have to say that the set they built for her looks amazing!!! I feel like I could write an entire story just sitting on that set, I would be so creatively inspired!
RIIIIIIGHT. I was in awe! It was so beautiful and I loved all the graphic design elements between the episodes too.
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6:00 You have a cat!!!
I didn't watch for about a month and when I come back you've acquired the cutest, fluffiest kitty during this time??? Unacceptable
I also do dramaturgy, so a few questions: How populated can the world be when there is 1 death? How fast can death travel? How many people can die at once? In a day? What happens to them after? What are the implications of a personification? Does there need to be a life?
Sooooo lemme find out there's a workbook! Not that I wasn't already gonna take it again and go through it with my story, but now I really gotta take it again with this workbook I missed. This was such a fun experience. Thanks for collabing with me! You and @Becca C. Smith are awesome!
I have to admit that until N.K. Jemisin I hadn't really read any adult queer stories. Like minor stuff, but nothing with significant relationships and nothing as an adult, but the way in which she wrote the things she did was as if they were so common that often time I missed them during that first read. You are so right with how she treats it as such a nonissue you don't feel anyway about it because you're not supposed to. I feel like that (among a host of other things) is part of her true genius.
Also, the kitten playtime was everything!!!! I'm definitely even more intrigued to take the Neil Gaiman class now since they're your top two. Have you taken Roxanne Gay's Masterclass? I saw she had one and know you mentioned a Skillshare class of hers.
Roxanne Gay made a Masterclass series?!?!?!!?
@@billyalarie929 yep I wanna say it was Writing for Social Change was the title but don't quote me lol
@@ShayWithThaHobbies Does it include writing about Dalits and casteism...?
@@jocelyns5331 NK's class or Roxanne Gay's? I haven't taken Roxanne's yet but I will definitely let you know when I do.
I was so excited when I saw the trailer for this Masterclass, and everything that you, Becca, Shay and others have gleaned from the course sounds AMAZING! Thanks for doing this collab because it's fun to see how all of you focused on different take-aways.
This is a great vlog! I’ve been contemplating taking this course for a while because I’m writing speculative for the first time in years and this video has definitely convinced me!
YES RACHEL! It's so helpful, I can't recommend it enough! I'm excited to take it again for my next new speculative project.
Rachel this is honestly more up your alley than you might imagine at first blush.
I have gotten loads of ideas from all my various classes throughout my life. In fact, in this past semester, different things I was learning in the class ended up in the book I was writing since I have a character that had a similar career.
I have only read The City We Became by N.K. Jemisin. I'm a little intimidated by her other works...
Zero draft to first draft metamorphosis is so relatable. Like in zero draft I started at what is now the 3/4 mark in my current work and the POV character has changed and it’s a WHOLE THING.
I LOVE Masterclass. This videos are making me want to re-up my subscription 😂 I’ve taken several, but my favorites are Neil Gaiman and Judy Bloom. IF the ever have Brandon Sanderson make one (I don’t know if it’s likely because he puts his lectures on YT) I will be SO there.
AAAAAAH I hadn't seen that Judy Blume had one and now I'm even more hyped. There are so many I want to try out.
R.L.Stine was surprisingly funny teacher!
i'm not a writter but you're video's give me inspiration and seeing someone talk with passion like you is amazing and really motivational !!!!
This was an absolutely phenomenal class.
Edit: Shay’s video just went up while watching this!
I just want to thank you, I've been binge watching your videos and its given me the push I need to commit to writing a novel for CampNaNoWriMo in July. It's my first 'real' attempt at a novel. Your videos have reminded me how much I love writing creatively, which I though university had taken from me.
Thank you, i love this review! When i heard that N. K. Jemisin was coming out with a class, i finally asked my family for a subscription for my birthday.
I really enjoyed her class! I listened while working but hope to go back and re-watch and do the exercises. :)
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OOOOH. I'll have to come back to this comment once I've read it!!! Super excited.
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I spent so much time in K-12 daydreaming, I definitely came up with ideas in class!
Also BABY KITTY!
If you are trying to work on more (science based) worldbuilding or conlangs I highly, highly recommend the channels Artefexian and Biblarion (especially his series on explaining the evolution of his worlds wildlife) as they have inspired me a lot and are pretty helpful.
Currently taking her class myself. Love it.
This was so much fun!!! And how did I not know there were workbooks LOL!! Shows how observant I am hahaha!! Definitely going to check those out now lol!! I loved hearing what you got out of the class as well and can't wait until we can all just sit and gush about NK Jemisin for an hour hahahaha!! (Also, the Vin shots were everything lol!)
Fantastic writing collab, can't wait for the chat! I love hearing your take on this Masterclass with N.K. and that kitten can have more screen time :D BTW I laughed out loud when I saw you folding laundry while I was folding laundry.
N.K. Jemisin 😍😍😍 This class looks SO good
I went through the masterclass a couple weeks ago and it was freaking amazing! Now I'm close-reading The Fifth Season in a "Read Like a Writer" course at university. :') N. K. Jemisin is GENIUS.
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Also, speaking of ages or time periods in sci-fi, there's a period known as the "Golden Age" of science fiction, which generally refers to the old or hard sci-fi (more focused on the science and tech concepts), and there's the "New Wave" of Science Fiction movement, which started around the mid-60's, and it was all about trying to elevate science fiction as a literary genre. Soft sci-fi became more common with that movement. Frank Herbert's Dune series and Ursula K. Le Guin's sci-fi novels are examples of soft sci-fi from around the New Wave times. I think New Wave as a movement died out, but the idea of more literary or soft science fiction stayed. (But don't take my word for it. I literally learned about this last month, while researching my chosen genres for that university course I'm taking.)
I think that in more recent decades, the line between sci-fi and fantasy has blurred a lot. For example, Dune is marketed as sci-fi but could easily be fantasy as well. Even Jemisin's Broken Earth trilogy has been marketed as either.
As for spec fic, I think the umbrella also includes magical realism, dystopian fiction, and a few others.
I really really liked the part where NK Jemisin mentioned the importance of the social sciences to good speculative fiction (amateur sci-fi writer with a PhD in Sociology here).
This is a lovely adventure of a video! You are so much fun when you're excited about these Masterclasses. :) Thanks for sharing this experience with all of us. It brightened my Monday morning!!! Love and hugs.
Oh, fantastic, a new video!
Heyyy! Thoughts on worldbuilding for your story Kate, and how death would affect it:
Well one reason so many believe in God is because of you might call it, worldbuilding evidence that points towards a goodness and regenerative nature -- life cycles, consciences, love, the beautiful design of nature, mindboggling vastness, inherent logic of day and night, and etc
so if death was a god, i would imagine to flip things in reverse -- evidence of death controlling the world, so wastelands perhaps, deserts, animals that feed on death like vultures more preeminent, illogic, non-regenerative nature, etc
I hope that's helpful! xx
Ive been so excited for trying out this masterclass - literally because she is NK Jemisin XD and this video makes me even more excited
I actually wondered if you would make a video on that class! Lol :) I haven't taken a masterclass yet.
I’ve thought about taking the master classes for writing but I wasn’t sure… now I definitely want to check them out ☺️😁
I love when you do these vids. I have read two of N.K. Jemison's works; they weren't the popular ones. Still I'm looking forward to your opinion on her masterclass.
I've been thinking about taking a masterclass, and this one I might go for. Also, don't feel bad for only reading the first book, my sister's friend got me The Fifth Season for Christmas, and I have yet to read it. 🤣💜
I’m still on this MasterClass and I’m looking forward to learning more. I need to get her books!
nice i may have to take the class! i just started a si-fi book that was inspired by ar art prject where we took two diffrent elements and create a world and then after i made it a story unfolded!
I’ve just recently taken Dan Brown’s masterclass, which was excellent!
GREAT VIDEO!!!! Thank you so much for doing this vlog!!! I'm definitely going to be checking this masterclass out. But also:
Not Sherri looking at you typing and wondering how many times you've written the word "just" everytime you hit the "j" key.
I FEEL ATTACKED SHERRI.
@@KateCavanaugh bwahahaha! WITH LOVE THO! That was with LOVE!
Was this video informative? Yes. Am I watching Shay and Becca's? Yes! Is the only thing I've taken away from this an adorable kitten in a baseball hat? Of course
Hey Kate! Have you considered taking Margaret Atwood's Masterclass?
I haven't taken a masterclass yet. But if I would then it would be probably N. K. Jemisin because I probably could learn some more about worldbuilding. I have no money right now so I can't.
I totally understand, the cost is a hard pill to swallow. And I'm lucky because I could weigh it out with how much making a review video of the class might make me and hope that if I made enough videos over the year, it would "pay for it" essentially.
If you have a week where you have more free time and are interested, I can send a guess past for a 7-day trial. (I have a few expiring today actually, but I think they reset and give me some more after another month???) I thiiiink you'd be able to take however many classes in those 7 days, but I'm not totally positive how the guest pass works. 🤞
@@KateCavanaugh Can you really do that? That would be awesome. Thank you. If you can. Contact me on discord and we can talk further.
I'm so excited for this video.
YAY!
I miss your I tried writing like video...Hope you do one soon. I would like to see danielle steel one.
LOOOOOOVE the socks!!! :)
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Would it would it not be appropriate to request a video just of kitty doing cutie kitty things? Perhaps as a timer?
This is long, I'm sorry.
For Project Death and it being a desert planet, do you know why it's a desert planet and how life developed on the planet?
In Stargate SG1 they explained, well more retconned, the reason from going from a desert planet (from the movie) to a green planet because of the atmospheric conditions needed for hominoid life to develop and thrive.
I know you switched to a new idea later into class, but I had the thought and wanted to bring it up.
As for the different periods of Sci-fi, I look as them differently. More in Sci-fi than in Fantasy, I feel you have to look at the time they were written. And each time span has its own ages... To me anyway.
The "Father" of Sci-fi as a genre is Jules Verne. When he wrote the technology like submarines were in their infancy, the idea on how someone could fly was forming. The technology was changing and the acceptance of changing science.
In the 1940's the Sci-fi serials became popular. Sci-fi was used to change perspectives on race, class, education and so on.
That lead to the "Alien" "Space cadet" style comics, and the alagory of the evils of communism.
And so on and so forth.
The last Golden Age of Sci-Fi was the late '80s early '90s with movies. Star Wars, Star Trek (Movies and shows), Blade Runner, you get my point.
I'm confused about what speculative fiction is. I know it's under the umbrella Sci-fi, but I've seen very different examples of the genre. To me it's looking at "what if this happened instead of that?" Or "what if this happened in the future and lead to 'this'".
Master Class....is it worth the hype?? Hell ya!!
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Didint you write hope for the best?
How about David baldacchi’s masterclass?
Now I want to take a master class. I wish Stephen King did one.
You look and sound very bubbly 🙂
I LOVE NK Jemisin, but I think that "If you work hard you will eventually make it" is kind of a naive perspective.
There are dozens if not thousands of talented people who create incredible stories every year that never see the light of day because; (1) traditional publishing is oversaturated in their market (2) they present an uncomfortable position that publishers aren't willing to discuss (3) they have a physical or mental health barrier preventing them from being able to advocate for their own writing to publishers or to seek representation (4) they lack the business acumen or finances to adequately produce and promote themselves through self publishing.
Inspiring people is great and all, but ignoring the barriers to entry, ESPECIALLY as someone from a historically underserved population in publishing, is kind of bordering on gaslighty...
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