I have to say that the entire outline on the end of the Colonial War is completely out of sync to what is the historical consensus in Portugal nowadays and indeed what most of the revolutionary officers claim were their reasons for the revolution. The war in Guinea was indeed lost. Spinola was removed from Guinea by Marcelo Caetano for trying to achieve a political dealing for the Portuguese capitulation to the PAIGC. In the South, the Zambian government started aiding the rebels so the guerilla movements in Mozambique spread from the northern border against Tanzania to almost near Beira and in Angola the region the whole Eastern half of the territory which is scarcely populated was teeming with subversive forces. Militarily they didn't have the power to counter the Portuguese might, but the idea was to exhaust Portugal. And they did. Portugal was spending almost half of their entire budget on the war effort, more than a million people fled the country not to join the war and Caetano's support of the American troops, by letting them use the Lajes airbase in the Azores during the Yom Kippur War in exchange to not recognizing Guinean independence in the UN led to the Arab countries including Portugal, South Africa and Rhodesia in their oil embargo, making the war effort much costlier than it was before. The revolt in the armed forces essentially started in Guinea after Caetano already stating that a military defeat in Guinea was better than negotiating with PAIGC. The military not only remembered the way the officers that didn't sacrifice themselves in Goa fell in disgrace after the Indian takeover in 1961, saw no good end to the conflict and furthermore the approval of a Rhodesia-suggested law for the integration of the militias in the Army (because every single young man in Portugal had to go fight in the war and it still wasn't enough) finally steeled the Armed Forces resolve in ending the war. Besides, the idea that there was no right-wing party in the elections is completely false, as both PSD and CDS were constituted by, respectively, disgruntled reformists from Marcello Caetano's government (to the point that the current president of Portugal Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa and an active militant of PSD since it's inception was the son of the Minister for the Colonies in 1974) and more right wing parties in the dictatorship (One of CDS's figureheads at the time - Adriano Moreira - had been one of Caetano's rivals in the 60s). Both managed to achieve 96 of the 250 seats in Parliament in the first elections in 1975.
I'm Portuguese and I'm over 70 years old. This is the best video or text I've heard/seen about this period in my country's history. Precise, distanced, dispassionate and exact. Thank you very much.
Great stream, very informative. A Portuguese tv show once did a poll on "the greatest Portuguese who ever lived" and Salazar got first place. This was around 2008. It would be nice if you did another 4 hour stream on Salazar, I want to know more about him and his government.
@@jvasco93 He had good intention. Sure, he was a dictator, but an enlightened one. You can disagree with his method and his policies, but even his opponents acknowledge that he wasn't corrupt.
@@jvasco93 No, he was just one of the best leader Portugal ever had and the best world leader of the last 3 centuries. He single-handedly saved Portugal from the chaos and poverty the first Portuguese Republic caused to the country. He had brought the last golden age of Portugal. Most Portuguese know what they owe to Salazar. He more than earns the right to be called "The greatest Portuguese who ever lived". Viva Salazar! Viva o Estado Novo! Viva as províncias ultramarinas de Portugal!
Superb to see a detailed, lengthy discussion on the ‘ Salazarist ‘ state. As a long-term resident in Japan, a nation in which Portuguese-promoted Catholicism, trade, even cuisine, all played an enormous role in the century prior to the erecting of the Tokugawa bakafu,.not to mention the UN’s continued recognition of Portuguese sovereignty over a shattered, blood-soaked, Indonesian occupied Timor Leste,.the incredibly lengthy presence of Lisbon’s authority in Macao, virtually half a millennium,…the wars the Portuguese conducted from Gujarat to Oman in fierce competition with the Osman Porte,…anyone with a serious interest in Pacific history simply has to pay attention to Portugal’s presence.
I'm midway tru this and as a portuguese i can't help but admire the astonishing amount of detail a foreigner knows about Portuguese history. Apostolic Majesty you never cease to amaze me. Perhaps one day i'll find out your life path and where are you getting all this information, cuz sure as hell it doesn't come from any "instutiton of learning" (indoctrination center) of the Lusosphere. I did 2 years of history college and 3 years of high school taking portuguese history classes and i only knew the other "perspective" on most of these knowlege. All these lectures over the years have filled the void i felt since i left history college on moral grounds. You mop the floor with the rest of youtube when it comes to brutally analysing history. You are doing a public service to all people who are interested in history. Now onwards to another 2 hours of this magnificent stream!
The Portuguese stopped being dominant in India with the Iberian Union and the Dutch takeover of many of Portugal's Indian factories in the mid-17th century. By the time Portugal regained independence, it only had a third of all European factories in India, compared to its near monopoly on the European Indian factories decades earlier.
Hate that I missed it live. Mr. Majesty's take on America's prioritization of de-colonization over anti-Communism tracks with what BAP's said on the subject.
Without letting go Angola and Moçambique, Portugal could have never joined the European Union, which it did just a few years after the 25th April 1974. My aunt was living in Portugal at that time and therefor my family went there every few years. You cannot imagine how Portugal changed since than. It was so backward, so poor, the infrastructure was so backward, the trains, the streets, the airports, some regions even suffered from malnutrition, which led to a lot of Portuguese being really small, like adult men with 1m 50. This has completely changed.
I enjoyed the superchat asking if the Estado Novo was particular to Portugal, or could be applied to other states. On one hand, it is disheartening to think that these successful alternative governments (alternatives to the big 3 ideologies in WW2) are stuck in their own context, unable to reach out to us in the 21st century. But on the other hand, it is a great comfort to know that practicable, possible and prudent political solutions to our clownworld exist, even if we cant see exactly what the path forward is.
Thank u for this. Since we are in the corner of Europe, we are often forgotten. The Estado Novo was a blip of sanity in the constant chaos that the First Republic was, and what became of the country after 1975. It will take sometime to find another Carmona or Salazar to get things right on track.
Well, at least he kept slavery going on until the local population rose up and 31,785 casualties stacked up. It was really, really sane. Not to mention trying to get a small portuguese garrison to fight the whole Indian Union Army. How much sanity can you tolerate from fascists?
@@joaquimbento9406 He was far from fascist, he even persecuted them. The fascists actually would go on to join the socialists in the Carnation Revolution. Preto was even a main figure in the post-Salazar years. Fascism is a very specific ideology with unique traits, not any reactionary or conservative authoritarian regime. The debt bondage issue is unforgivable though. Even being a hold over from the Republic, Salazar was aware of it and didn't do anything to relieve it. Also, he didn't try to get the Portuguese garrison to fight the Indians. He tried to get NATO to fight the Indians. Because that's what NATO was for and NATO had already been engaged in proxy wars supporting the Kuomintang, France and Britain by that point. He isn't insane for thinking NATO might intervene especially since the UN at that time even ruled the forced annexation to be illegal and the main NATO members all condemned India for it. All in all, your points are either wrong or missing context. With the exception being the debt bondage. He wasn't a fascist and he didn't believe he was going to somehow defeat India by himself, quite the opposite on both accounts.
@@hyperion3145 Although I concede that there may have been a cleave between the fascists and the ultra nationalists, saying that the fascists joined the socialists in the April 25th coup is slightly wrong if not a complete fantasy. Besides, if push come to shove Salazar would be on the side of the ultras himself. Btw, his lunatic theory about a self sustaining economy was one of the things that ran it into the ground. That and pairing up with the most despised governments in the world. What NATO was for was holding on to Western Europe. Period. It's in the name. You don't seem to realize that the USA held all the cards and was dead set on keeping the Europeans from hanging on to their former colonies. He whom holds the nukes has the will. The fascist government was so completely insane that Paulo Cunha dressed down de USA ambassador! Nothing that you say makes any sense. The British and the French were completely irrelevant by 61. The British only mildly rebuked the Indian government and quickly forgot the matter and the French had been beaten like dogs not far from there and only four years ago.
Just got to the Marquis de Pombal and Salazar part. another great take. Salazar is quoted as Saying his dream would be being the Prime Minister to an absolute King just like Marquis de Pombal was.
Portuguese here. I only got to 1:45 yet and I already like your respecful approach to Salazar.Serious people can´t use the word fascist to describe him. He was an Authoritarian dictator. Im sure I´m in for a treat with this. Thanks in advance.
Its funny, that it the Brazilian context, people will tax Salazar as a fascist, but will make apologies for Vargas, who had to be bought out by the Americans not merely to join the war, but to not do it in favor of the germans
I am yet to find proof he was a fascist. He actually pulled away and imprisoned Rolao preto, so there's no evidence. PIDE doesn't make Portugal a fascist regime alone.
Congratulations for such a complete analysis of the Portuguese History. I would like to add some more information. The so called carnation revolution was more a coup d'etat. According to Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho the career captains were not happy with the privileges that were being conferred to non career militaries. As for the Portuguese colonies both the United States and the Soviet Union were helping the revolutionary African movements by supplying them with weapons. That was the way the United States treated their allies, Portugal being a co-founder member of Nato. After April the 25th 1974 the communist party was the main political force to the despair of USA. The American government then tried to instigate the Azoreans against mainland Portugal in order to fight the communists and their connection to the Soviet Union. One year later when Mario Soares came into power and the communist threat ceased to exist the American government changed its mind and stopped forcing the Azores to become an independent country. On a final note Salazar attended the Seminário de Viseu in his youth.
Great stream. I was always wondering how Portugal was made to be so small after having such a great start to the colonial empire. Very interesting to see their fall.
No idea how the algorithm recommended this to me: I know virtually nothing at all about this except that I heard the name Estado Novo ... and that it would be very complicated to explain ... still this was a very informative discussion to listen to.
For anyone interested in Portugal's 20th Century colonial wars in Africa, a couple of great books are "Counterinsurgency In Africa: The Portuguese Way of War, 1961-1974" by John P. Cann and "The Fabric of Terror" by Bernardo Teixera. The first is a very in depth military analysis of how Portugal waged what was arguably a far more successful war than the US or the French in Vietnam and latter the French in Algeria with a fraction of the resources. The second is a very graphic first hand account of the atrocities being committed by Angolan 'Rebels' and the psychology motivating the insurgents.
Awesome as always. The discussion at the only makes me desire to see a “Children of Britannia” series that goes into the history of the British colonies
Outside of US and to lesser extent South Africa (even then its rarely touched upon in any depth) or maybe Hong Kong.? There isn't a lot of content on the British settler dominions such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand, nor the British Caribbean colonies such as Jamaica and Trinidad, nor much content on British South America such as Belize or Guiana, nor really much of India despite its grand important to the 1800s. Even much of Africa such as Somalia, Kenya, Nigeria, ect. The British empire was pretty vast and really touched all aspects of the world.
@zjg4gcvn about the history of Canada? I don't think there is much no. In this sphere, Settler's Lamant talks about Canada, but he isn't a historical channel by any means. In the more normie sphere, JJ Mcullign somtimes touchs on historical topics but again isn't a history channel in the way AM is. Is there any good AM style history content on Canada? I'd love to see if you know any.
I've heard it said that Salazar's leadership was an effect of Portugal's consecration to the Immaculate Heart in 1931 along with preservation from both WWII and Soviet communism.
Wonderful refreshing surprises: cultured English men discussing international affairs without looking down their nose. Portugal gained and lost both during and after the Estado Novo. How they harness the lusophone legacy is still something that fascinates me.
I believe Salazar didn't restore the monarchy because he didn't believe it was the system that would most likely ensure a good leader for the nation. At the end he thought that those who carried authority in the corporations were more indicated to choose the representant of the nation than a blood lineage.
He deep down didn’t like the idea of anyone taking the reins from him. He didn’t nominate a successor and Marcelo Caetano who was one of the potencial candidates had to fight off countless other people who wanted Salazar’s chair for more than 20 years. Even Caetano just wound up being in the chair because he was in the Government at the right time. Salazar thought of D. Duarte Nuno as a useful tool because he, coming from the Right-wing exiled line of the Braganza dynasty kow-towed to the ideas of the regime, but Salazar neutralized him and any remaining monarchic ideals in 1951 because he didn’t want anyone to throw shade on him and his rule. The perpetuation of Américo Thomaz in the presidential office was just due to Thomaz being the ultimate doormat in the regime.
Congratulations guys, an Intelligent and informative stream. Only thing missing here though, is the role of the big fat Jewcy elephant in the many historical events mentioned. Also, the last two years of Salazar’s supposed rule is nothing like the ridiculousness of the the Biden Administration 😂.
Oh just at the moment when 90% of China’s population dies off in the US and India descend into complete chaos then European colonialism might be able to reignite in sub-Saharan Africa if fertility rates go back to a normal functioning level
I wonder if Opus Dei played a role in Salazar’s regime that resembled that which it enjoyed, to quite a significant degree, in post-1945 Francoist Spain ?..
Only issue I keep seeing is people preventing the return of a monarch for pragmatic reasons. If you don't have your spiritual house in order, including a divinely appointed monarch, then you're only going to get so far. The discussion reminds me of the pitfalls in the book on Integralism I read several years ago, where the authors basically gave up on monarchy in response to Vatican II. It leaves a void I'm not comfortable with.
Franco regent by the grace of God? Up to the end of the regime he was "Caudillo por la gracia de Dios". And that's what was written on coins. He named Juan Carlos as his heir, but Franco was the Caudillo.
I will never understand how Portuguese people still glamourise Salazar. He was a dictator, plain and simple. He kept Portugal a poor, backward country under his dictatorship. So many people emigrated because of the low wages and hunger. There was no emphasis or priority on education, children (especially girls) were taken out of school by the age of 10. Many many families did not have basic plumbing, having to use communal out houses instead. Thousands of young men were forced to go and fight in a senseless war in Africa, my uncle was one of them. In fact, the reason many young men fled Portugal in the 60's and 70's was to literally run away from being sent to fight in Africa. My dad was one of them. Salazar is possibly the worst Portuguese to have ever lived.
Very few people under 60 glamourize Salazar. Thus said, it's a common misconception that Salazar "kept" Portugal poor and uneducated. At most he was too cautious, given his conservatism. Before him Portugal was even poorer and less educated. Never in its history Portugal was a wealthy and educated country. Industrialization and development started very late, in the 1960s, long after almost all Western Europe.
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I have to say that the entire outline on the end of the Colonial War is completely out of sync to what is the historical consensus in Portugal nowadays and indeed what most of the revolutionary officers claim were their reasons for the revolution. The war in Guinea was indeed lost. Spinola was removed from Guinea by Marcelo Caetano for trying to achieve a political dealing for the Portuguese capitulation to the PAIGC. In the South, the Zambian government started aiding the rebels so the guerilla movements in Mozambique spread from the northern border against Tanzania to almost near Beira and in Angola the region the whole Eastern half of the territory which is scarcely populated was teeming with subversive forces. Militarily they didn't have the power to counter the Portuguese might, but the idea was to exhaust Portugal. And they did. Portugal was spending almost half of their entire budget on the war effort, more than a million people fled the country not to join the war and Caetano's support of the American troops, by letting them use the Lajes airbase in the Azores during the Yom Kippur War in exchange to not recognizing Guinean independence in the UN led to the Arab countries including Portugal, South Africa and Rhodesia in their oil embargo, making the war effort much costlier than it was before. The revolt in the armed forces essentially started in Guinea after Caetano already stating that a military defeat in Guinea was better than negotiating with PAIGC. The military not only remembered the way the officers that didn't sacrifice themselves in Goa fell in disgrace after the Indian takeover in 1961, saw no good end to the conflict and furthermore the approval of a Rhodesia-suggested law for the integration of the militias in the Army (because every single young man in Portugal had to go fight in the war and it still wasn't enough) finally steeled the Armed Forces resolve in ending the war.
Besides, the idea that there was no right-wing party in the elections is completely false, as both PSD and CDS were constituted by, respectively, disgruntled reformists from Marcello Caetano's government (to the point that the current president of Portugal Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa and an active militant of PSD since it's inception was the son of the Minister for the Colonies in 1974) and more right wing parties in the dictatorship (One of CDS's figureheads at the time - Adriano Moreira - had been one of Caetano's rivals in the 60s). Both managed to achieve 96 of the 250 seats in Parliament in the first elections in 1975.
hi as i heard , "welcom to the hetereodox history podcast" i went searching for it to subscribe and... cant find it???!!!!!!! can you send me a link ?
It can’t seem to found it
I'm Portuguese and I'm over 70 years old. This is the best video or text I've heard/seen about this period in my country's history. Precise, distanced, dispassionate and exact. Thank you very much.
Great stream, very informative. A Portuguese tv show once did a poll on "the greatest Portuguese who ever lived" and Salazar got first place. This was around 2008. It would be nice if you did another 4 hour stream on Salazar, I want to know more about him and his government.
That just shows that people are very misinformed about the man.
@@jvasco93 nop
@@jvasco93 He had good intention. Sure, he was a dictator, but an enlightened one. You can disagree with his method and his policies, but even his opponents acknowledge that he wasn't corrupt.
@@jvasco93 No, he was just one of the best leader Portugal ever had and the best world leader of the last 3 centuries. He single-handedly saved Portugal from the chaos and poverty the first Portuguese Republic caused to the country. He had brought the last golden age of Portugal. Most Portuguese know what they owe to Salazar. He more than earns the right to be called "The greatest Portuguese who ever lived". Viva Salazar! Viva o Estado Novo! Viva as províncias ultramarinas de Portugal!
@@deusvult836 well, you clearly are an imperialist so its normal that you say a bunch of lies.
Superb to see a detailed, lengthy discussion on the ‘ Salazarist ‘ state. As a long-term resident in Japan, a nation in which Portuguese-promoted Catholicism, trade, even cuisine, all played an enormous role in the century prior to the erecting of the Tokugawa bakafu,.not to mention the UN’s continued recognition of Portuguese sovereignty over a shattered, blood-soaked, Indonesian occupied Timor Leste,.the incredibly lengthy presence of Lisbon’s authority in Macao, virtually half a millennium,…the wars the Portuguese conducted from Gujarat to Oman in fierce competition with the Osman Porte,…anyone with a serious interest in Pacific history simply has to pay attention to Portugal’s presence.
I'm midway tru this and as a portuguese i can't help but admire the astonishing amount of detail a foreigner knows about Portuguese history. Apostolic Majesty you never cease to amaze me. Perhaps one day i'll find out your life path and where are you getting all this information, cuz sure as hell it doesn't come from any "instutiton of learning" (indoctrination center) of the Lusosphere. I did 2 years of history college and 3 years of high school taking portuguese history classes and i only knew the other "perspective" on most of these knowlege. All these lectures over the years have filled the void i felt since i left history college on moral grounds. You mop the floor with the rest of youtube when it comes to brutally analysing history. You are doing a public service to all people who are interested in history. Now onwards to another 2 hours of this magnificent stream!
The Portuguese stopped being dominant in India with the Iberian Union and the Dutch takeover of many of Portugal's Indian factories in the mid-17th century. By the time Portugal regained independence, it only had a third of all European factories in India, compared to its near monopoly on the European Indian factories decades earlier.
Hate that I missed it live. Mr. Majesty's take on America's prioritization of de-colonization over anti-Communism tracks with what BAP's said on the subject.
GNC
Thomas 777 covers this in s similar vein
One could say it was preventative, or else the communist might have had Even bigger support among colonized people
@@nahumhabte6210agreed. It was only done out of necessity, cleverness, and a little fear
And quickly replaced with a more veiled and subtle form, unfortunately
The amount of knowledge is unbelievable. I'm learning a lot. I'm a Brazilian with deep admiration for Portugal's old history.
As a Brazilian, I find this absolutely AMAZING. Thank you so much for yout content, AM.
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@@shootgunMarvel who's there
Top. Notch. Stuff.
Thank You, gentlemen and God Bless!
Without letting go Angola and Moçambique, Portugal could have never joined the European Union, which it did just a few years after the 25th April 1974. My aunt was living in Portugal at that time and therefor my family went there every few years. You cannot imagine how Portugal changed since than. It was so backward, so poor, the infrastructure was so backward, the trains, the streets, the airports, some regions even suffered from malnutrition, which led to a lot of Portuguese being really small, like adult men with 1m 50. This has completely changed.
Schengen will kill Europe with the delusional hopes of Germany
I enjoyed the superchat asking if the Estado Novo was particular to Portugal, or could be applied to other states. On one hand, it is disheartening to think that these successful alternative governments (alternatives to the big 3 ideologies in WW2) are stuck in their own context, unable to reach out to us in the 21st century. But on the other hand, it is a great comfort to know that practicable, possible and prudent political solutions to our clownworld exist, even if we cant see exactly what the path forward is.
Thank u for this. Since we are in the corner of Europe, we are often forgotten. The Estado Novo was a blip of sanity in the constant chaos that the First Republic was, and what became of the country after 1975. It will take sometime to find another Carmona or Salazar to get things right on track.
blip, not blimp. A blimp is a balloon, an airship.
Well, at least he kept slavery going on until the local population rose up and 31,785 casualties stacked up. It was really, really sane. Not to mention trying to get a small portuguese garrison to fight the whole Indian Union Army. How much sanity can you tolerate from fascists?
@@joaquimbento9406 He was far from fascist, he even persecuted them. The fascists actually would go on to join the socialists in the Carnation Revolution. Preto was even a main figure in the post-Salazar years. Fascism is a very specific ideology with unique traits, not any reactionary or conservative authoritarian regime.
The debt bondage issue is unforgivable though. Even being a hold over from the Republic, Salazar was aware of it and didn't do anything to relieve it.
Also, he didn't try to get the Portuguese garrison to fight the Indians. He tried to get NATO to fight the Indians. Because that's what NATO was for and NATO had already been engaged in proxy wars supporting the Kuomintang, France and Britain by that point. He isn't insane for thinking NATO might intervene especially since the UN at that time even ruled the forced annexation to be illegal and the main NATO members all condemned India for it.
All in all, your points are either wrong or missing context. With the exception being the debt bondage. He wasn't a fascist and he didn't believe he was going to somehow defeat India by himself, quite the opposite on both accounts.
@@hyperion3145 Although I concede that there may have been a cleave between the fascists and the ultra nationalists, saying that the fascists joined the socialists in the April 25th coup is slightly wrong if not a complete fantasy. Besides, if push come to shove Salazar would be on the side of the ultras himself. Btw, his lunatic theory about a self sustaining economy was one of the things that ran it into the ground. That and pairing up with the most despised governments in the world. What NATO was for was holding on to Western Europe. Period. It's in the name. You don't seem to realize that the USA held all the cards and was dead set on keeping the Europeans from hanging on to their former colonies. He whom holds the nukes has the will. The fascist government was so completely insane that Paulo Cunha dressed down de USA ambassador! Nothing that you say makes any sense. The British and the French were completely irrelevant by 61. The British only mildly rebuked the Indian government and quickly forgot the matter and the French had been beaten like dogs not far from there and only four years ago.
@@joaquimbento9406 butthurt commie
This stream came out just as I was writing a speech on the Estado Novo for a university society. Meme magic.
Just got to the Marquis de Pombal and Salazar part. another great take. Salazar is quoted as Saying his dream would be being the Prime Minister to an absolute King just like Marquis de Pombal was.
Portuguese here. I only got to 1:45 yet and I already like your respecful approach to Salazar.Serious people can´t use the word fascist to describe him. He was an Authoritarian dictator. Im sure I´m in for a treat with this. Thanks in advance.
Its funny, that it the Brazilian context, people will tax Salazar as a fascist, but will make apologies for Vargas, who had to be bought out by the Americans not merely to join the war, but to not do it in favor of the germans
I am yet to find proof he was a fascist.
He actually pulled away and imprisoned Rolao preto, so there's no evidence.
PIDE doesn't make Portugal a fascist regime alone.
Congratulations for such a complete analysis of the Portuguese History. I would like to add some more information. The so called carnation revolution was more a coup d'etat. According to Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho the career captains were not happy with the privileges that were being conferred to non career militaries.
As for the Portuguese colonies both the United States and the Soviet Union were helping the revolutionary African movements by supplying them with weapons. That was the way the United States treated their allies, Portugal being a co-founder member of Nato. After April the 25th 1974 the communist party was the main political force to the despair of USA. The American government then tried to instigate the Azoreans against mainland Portugal in order to fight the communists and their connection to the Soviet Union. One year later when Mario Soares came into power and the communist threat ceased to exist the American government changed its mind and stopped forcing the Azores to become an independent country.
On a final note Salazar attended the Seminário de Viseu in his youth.
Good job, mate. And your pronunciations are not too ridiculous 👏
Excellent video! I’m Portuguese and English living in America, and seeing this unique type of government is truly inspiring to learn about. 🇵🇹 🇬🇧 💪🏼
Incredibly interesting stream! 🍻
I would love to hear more about Salazar or Francisco Franco!
Very good podcast, with very well sustained arguments. Please keep doing more!
Great stream. I was always wondering how Portugal was made to be so small after having such a great start to the colonial empire. Very interesting to see their fall.
Very Interesting and quite in-depth.
No idea how the algorithm recommended this to me: I know virtually nothing at all about this except that I heard the name Estado Novo ... and that it would be very complicated to explain ... still this was a very informative discussion to listen to.
For anyone interested in Portugal's 20th Century colonial wars in Africa, a couple of great books are "Counterinsurgency In Africa: The Portuguese Way of War, 1961-1974" by John P. Cann and "The Fabric of Terror" by Bernardo Teixera. The first is a very in depth military analysis of how Portugal waged what was arguably a far more successful war than the US or the French in Vietnam and latter the French in Algeria with a fraction of the resources. The second is a very graphic first hand account of the atrocities being committed by Angolan 'Rebels' and the psychology motivating the insurgents.
Awesome as always. The discussion at the only makes me desire to see a “Children of Britannia” series that goes into the history of the British colonies
Outside of US and to lesser extent South Africa (even then its rarely touched upon in any depth) or maybe Hong Kong.?
There isn't a lot of content on the British settler dominions such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand, nor the British Caribbean colonies such as Jamaica and Trinidad, nor much content on British South America such as Belize or Guiana, nor really much of India despite its grand important to the 1800s. Even much of Africa such as Somalia, Kenya, Nigeria, ect.
The British empire was pretty vast and really touched all aspects of the world.
@zjg4gcvn about the history of Canada? I don't think there is much no. In this sphere, Settler's Lamant talks about Canada, but he isn't a historical channel by any means. In the more normie sphere, JJ Mcullign somtimes touchs on historical topics but again isn't a history channel in the way AM is.
Is there any good AM style history content on Canada? I'd love to see if you know any.
Excellent piece!
I wonder if the Marian apparitions at Fatima had an effect in electing Salazar to power.
I would think so
I've heard it said that Salazar's leadership was an effect of Portugal's consecration to the Immaculate Heart in 1931 along with preservation from both WWII and Soviet communism.
Salazar was never democratically 'elected' to power.
Wonderful refreshing surprises: cultured English men discussing international affairs without looking down their nose.
Portugal gained and lost both during and after the Estado Novo. How they harness the lusophone legacy is still something that fascinates me.
I believe Salazar didn't restore the monarchy because he didn't believe it was the system that would most likely ensure a good leader for the nation.
At the end he thought that those who carried authority in the corporations were more indicated to choose the representant of the nation than a blood lineage.
He deep down didn’t like the idea of anyone taking the reins from him. He didn’t nominate a successor and Marcelo Caetano who was one of the potencial candidates had to fight off countless other people who wanted Salazar’s chair for more than 20 years. Even Caetano just wound up being in the chair because he was in the Government at the right time.
Salazar thought of D. Duarte Nuno as a useful tool because he, coming from the Right-wing exiled line of the Braganza dynasty kow-towed to the ideas of the regime, but Salazar neutralized him and any remaining monarchic ideals in 1951 because he didn’t want anyone to throw shade on him and his rule. The perpetuation of Américo Thomaz in the presidential office was just due to Thomaz being the ultimate doormat in the regime.
Really interesting stream!
Congratulations guys, an Intelligent and informative stream. Only thing missing here though, is the role of the big fat Jewcy elephant in the many historical events mentioned. Also, the last two years of Salazar’s supposed rule is nothing like the ridiculousness of the the Biden Administration 😂.
Thank you gentlemen 🙂
Thank you very much can you do only about estado novos ideology
You guys are top class on Portuguese history. Also a very politically neautral apporach to history. Neither right, nor left.
I knew very little about the Estado Novo or Salazar beyond him just being Portugal’s Franco before this stream
Great stream
I'm sure we can now move on from decolonization. Recolonization when?
Oh just at the moment when 90% of China’s population dies off in the US and India descend into complete chaos then European colonialism might be able to reignite in sub-Saharan Africa if fertility rates go back to a normal functioning level
Larp
@@KaiserFranzJosefI Not saing you are wrong, but, gosh, just take a look at your profile nickname and photo bro.
@@pedromatos5157 It just gonna stuck tbh
Bros when will you do something similar on Francoist Spain? That would be AWESOME
Manuel II, at least in that photograph, bore a distinct resemblance to Albert Goering !
I suggest a series on nationalism in interwar Europe aka fascism but in every country not just Germany and Italy. Would be interesting
Nationalism is not Fascism.
I think there's an argument to be made that colonization hasn't ended yet (look at Antarctica). Kind of like Fukuyama's "End of History".
Just look at Puerto Rico
Salazar 👏👏👏
@2:45:22 nice to hear it in words. 3:00:00 C next to A is read as K. Not satano.
What happened to your Francisco Franco biography
I wonder if Opus Dei played a role in Salazar’s regime that resembled that which it enjoyed, to quite a significant degree, in post-1945 Francoist Spain ?..
Only issue I keep seeing is people preventing the return of a monarch for pragmatic reasons. If you don't have your spiritual house in order, including a divinely appointed monarch, then you're only going to get so far.
The discussion reminds me of the pitfalls in the book on Integralism I read several years ago, where the authors basically gave up on monarchy in response to Vatican II. It leaves a void I'm not comfortable with.
Franco regent by the grace of God? Up to the end of the regime he was "Caudillo por la gracia de Dios". And that's what was written on coins. He named Juan Carlos as his heir, but Franco was the Caudillo.
gommment bc you said so
Nice video. Miguelists did nothing wrong
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I will never understand how Portuguese people still glamourise Salazar. He was a dictator, plain and simple. He kept Portugal a poor, backward country under his dictatorship. So many people emigrated because of the low wages and hunger. There was no emphasis or priority on education, children (especially girls) were taken out of school by the age of 10. Many many families did not have basic plumbing, having to use communal out houses instead. Thousands of young men were forced to go and fight in a senseless war in Africa, my uncle was one of them. In fact, the reason many young men fled Portugal in the 60's and 70's was to literally run away from being sent to fight in Africa. My dad was one of them. Salazar is possibly the worst Portuguese to have ever lived.
because outside of him, Portugal just became a gay Freemason controlled Socialist nation
Very few people under 60 glamourize Salazar. Thus said, it's a common misconception that Salazar "kept" Portugal poor and uneducated. At most he was too cautious, given his conservatism. Before him Portugal was even poorer and less educated. Never in its history Portugal was a wealthy and educated country. Industrialization and development started very late, in the 1960s, long after almost all Western Europe.