Andy Townsend CLAIMS There Would Be PROBLEMS If The Premier League Took Games Abroad Next Season 😱
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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This is about johnny come lately US billioinaires and companies like Nike, none of whom had any significant role in football from 1860 - 2000, thinking that they now rule football. They don't rule football, they rule a business that purports to call itself football. Football is a sport supported by fans, it is not a business frequented by customers. I simply don't understand why anyone wastes time deferring to Americans who have zero to teach sports about sport, even if they have much to teach about cartels, profits for failure and franchises leaving communities because they don't care about the social captial of a sports club, all they care about is making money.
The most important thing about the EPL is that Americans cannot start to say who is a fit and proper owner. They want 20 American owners in a league without relegation, that is painfully obvious. Regulation by the UK Government must make it quite clear that clubs are NOT leaving their home towns/cities to please US robber baroins. They are not moving cities as a franchise. They will be zero public subsidies for billionaires expecting others to build stadia for them. There will not be American coaches and players foisted onto the EPL unless their standards match the best in the world.
Americans did not 'make the EPL successful', they bought into it because it was already so successful that it put the inward-looking US sports to shame in terms of its global appeal.
The stadia were full of English fans, not American fans and that is why the Americans bought in. Now they want to deny English fans what has been their social heritage for 150 years and more. They are going to have to be told that that is totally unacceptable.
Good comment
Close down Arsenal. Is essentially what you're saying. And you're absolutely right.
Pls no don't let the UK government get involved ever again. It was them who made it illegal for Sky to have a monopoly on coverage. Now you need Sky, BT, Amazon, Apple, Paramount, Peacock and Stephens Super Soccer Streams to see the matches legally. And it will only set you back about 5 grand a year
Play the epl games in England. Some stadiums aren't fit for epl games overseas. Just don't do it. I'm in the US. But keep the games in England.
These are england's tourist attractions. If US want to watch the game live, they need to travel to watch it. Should the americans bring the statue of liberty here, so we can see it 😂😂
Why? They have already bought the Brexit culture, next step is to move it to their owners.
They do bring NFL to UK and it's always sold out.
Nfl comes to UK and epl being played abroad helps England dummy.
@greenconcrete-z8m they sold out in mexico and germany too. Also they are hosting a game in brazil this upcoming season.
Baseball (MLB) are selling out in South korea, london, japan, mexico.
@greenconcrete-z8m
They are trying to grow the sport in america. Clubs realise the latino demographic is exploding in america. Also, 1 out of 100 people of 300mil population is still 3mil people.
I don't see why they should only market to america by the way. In asia, pre-season friendly matches go for insane prices. Imagine competitive matches. Go to thailand, malaysia, indonesia or singapore. Tons of people walk around wearing jerseys.
Germany's Bundesliga is my favourite League but I don't want games to be played here in England and and cup games for that matter
Nobody wants to see our clubs playing premier League games outside the uk
But you want your clubs and culture being owned by them 😂😂😂😂 brexits are funny
The fans don’t own the clubs that’s the problem will selling up to foreigners
How about you stop receiving the broadcasting money from abroad and also not have any foreign investors
Premier League is only doing this for money I don’t want Man City playing in the USA Germany Spain Italy or France it’s ridiculous idea I just prefer Man City playing at the Etihad in the UK
@AlexM-ui8me exactly
Forrrrr the love of god don’t play premier league games here! If we want to watch a premier league game live we should have to get a passport and book a flight.
US first then Saudi and before you know it matches will be ppv with an ad break every 3 minutes
@@straightouttacornwall
Exactly its either the Prem is played in other countries or the Super league is now sooner rather than later
Why did you sell your teams to whoever waved a bit of cash? You are the Saudi league of Europe, we dont want you here and tour fans is not European so why play your games in our continent?
@@samjall9216rather a super league that doesn't have uefa or the fa in charge
That's what international fans do now.
WTF. We are not in the 1990's!
People at games are watching and betting on other games on their phones.
They haven't even allowed games to be shown on TV btw 3-5pm on a Saturday in the UK.
They haven't even built a "Netflix" style channel for the premier league ( its 32 years old).
No-one needs to leave the country for the Premier League to make more money.
It's still 1986 to Andy......the lucky bugger
If this gets remotely close to happening the fans need to protest even more than they did over the superleague, and they should boycott games.
Why? Im a fan and want it to happen. Would love to see my club playing in Tokyo or Miami. Broke fans like you are upset
He is not wrong. The homegrown fans in England are being treated like second class cash cows. No respect at all whatsoever.
Boxing, golf, football. Even snooker is getting moved to Saudi Arabia. Royal Ascot, Wimbledon and the British Grand Prix will be held there within a decade!
Idea - Play the Community Shield abroad as it’s a competitive game. To compensate for the loss of a UK Community Shield, deduct £50k from each Premier League team's prize money and donate to those causes
Playing the Community Shield abroad is a brilliant happy medium!
It's not about playing one game... its about playing multiple games
Very good idea which may have potential, as long as it’s strictly just the community shield, cos it’d be a real shame if the fa cup starting going aboard I feel. I’m in such 2 minds cos I hate the idea but I also understand the idea and can see the positives, can u imagine a league 2 side playing in a massive stadium in the USA and all the revenue those smaller clubs would generate, so it could be positive, but I dunno, I just feel it would feel a bit wrong watching the fa cup or something like that abroad, it’s a big debate to be had and examined I think
Townsend and Saunders are my favourite hosts on Talksport.
Where were all these rich owners 30 years ago? Business men arent in the buisness of losing money. There's usually an end goal. Now we see FFP coming into effect and talk of super leagues and taking the game abroad? Do the math. These business owners are trying to reshape how clubs are run because of their profiteering
I couldn't see league games mid way through the season working overseas, but maybe the first game of the season? If man united and arsenal were both in the USA for pre-season and the premier league made sure they played eachother first game of the season then it wouldnt be an issue, theyd just stay a little bit longer in the USA.
Season ticket holders could choose to have a ticket to the game or receive some money back.
League games should only be played in their respective countries. Even fans of these clubs who live abroad don’t want it elsewhere.
Well look if they play all the premier league games in other countries, all over the world Manchester United would never need to build a new stadium, they would be delighted with that.
Don’t ruin it like the yanks. A n awful show biz event. Keep that in the US FFS
The rights fees market is drying up for sports. The next revenue stream are from countries bidding for hosting rights (see WWE and UFC holding events in perth australia / Taylor Swift in Singapore for example). Clubs have to pay the piper. You earn so much from overseas fans to afford the big players, now its time to repay their favor.
They can also explore expanding the league to 21 teams and hold the additional 2 home and away fixtures overseas, increasing squad sizes.
For every additional new "problem", clubs will find a solution. The managers should relish that challenge since they are now so highly paid and have so many people in their backroom staff like analysts and throw in coaches.
If they could adjust for the league pause during the Qatar World Cup, they can adjust to anything. Remember the initial EPL had 22 clubs for the first 2 seasons.
This is exactly what a team like man utd would push for .
Put the league cup QFs and SFs on somewhere else. Exciting games with jeopardy. Only problem is if a lower league team has an unlikely cup run. Bradford City in Miami, wow!
Get fucked honestly. Every game in England or wales for the 4 that play in our league. If you don’t go to games you should have no opinion on this
The US single handedly nearly destroyed the Copa Amerca. An intense love of money over love of sport is bound to leave only one thing standing. The world cup is next. The amount of teams increasing in that completion does not mean more thrills or greater quality. It means greedy people are ready to destroy the beautiful game.
How much money do these people need
money over morals, the ultra capitalism way, capitalism worked at the start but its gone beyond that point
You had your time old timer. Accept your ending. World always changes. New gen would love to see matches abroad
I'll never watch it again if that happens. Screw them and support your local side.
I've been to Thailand. They weren't watching the games...
I live in Thailand, they absolutely do.
Any news on the Arsenal - Man United game from yesterday? 😂
Walsall v Villa is every pre-season
6.7 billion pound tv deal, record revenue streams. Despite this, clubs ate spening 70/80/ 90 percent of turnover on wages.
The objective is to make the EPL into the NFL.
I blame the US. Its a terrible idea, but if theres money to be made they’ll probably do it at some stage. I can understand teams from Spain and Italy doing it as they don’t earn as much as PL teams do from TV rights, but here they’re already earning a fortune. Its just greed. Global TV rights already make more than enough for clubs.
Peasant mindset. No guarantee epl stays number 1. You still have to keep growing and attracting fans
Johnny Clegg - Dela
Song from George of the jungle it's great! 👍
Season ticketholders will go down drastically, its beyong a joke , The FA aint fit for purpose
My season ticket would be canceled and I’d go on holiday with it instead. That would be me done 🤷♂️
That said, it will never happen. How would they compensate all the businesses in the area of the home game? The reaction would be instant and furious. The European Super League idea would be nothing in comparison
All greed. Pure greed and it’s killing the game
Money talks. If NFL can move 1 of 8 home games away, Prem will move 1 of 19. Inevitable.
It's different. The NFL doesn't play everyone home and away. Losing a home game effects the competitive balance.
The NFL arnd major League Baseball are the one major League in those sports by a significant margin so it's different soccer in one of the major leagues has to compete with other leagues around the world for prestigious attention
NFL needs to promote their game and sport. The premier league is the most famous sports league in the world. I live in Mexico and people wake up at 5am to watch prem games. It’s utterly insane anyone thinks this should happen
It's going to happen. The clubs, money men and players don't care about the fans. It's been bound to happen for years and I'd be more surprised if there aren't premier league games in the USA 25/26 season.
Exactly its inevitable
It is going to happen, because the brexit people are weak and they dont care about culture just money for them 😂
Hopefully the new government regulator they’re bringing in is serious about protecting the sport and stops anything like overseas pl games
@icecool1065 only man City as a club would disagree with their new wave of plastic shipjumper fans in the usa😂
Fans with bigger purchasing power than brits want this. Would be amazing seeing a epl game in miami or tokyo or dubai
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Ditch the League Cup and have a 39th round of games drawn from a hat for who plays who and where.
I like the league cup. It's another opportunity for my team, Newcastle, to compete for a trophy, since we have no chance of winning the league.
@@burnaardnufc3173When was the last time Newcastle won the league Cup?
@@burnaardnufc3173 Just have the League Cup for all the teams who aren't in Europe then.
mufc need to play in front of their usa fans
Why's that, so they can chant "I believe that we will win" embarrassing
Get ur own team
F*** america
If it goes abroad I stop watching simple...just pure greed
The Premier League is looking at the money that the NFL is making by going abroad in one or two games a season, and thinking that they can top that, and they probably could. I suspect there is a far greater appetite for PL games around the world than for the NFL, and that may be why American investors are so interested in the clubs. Eventually the Premier League (or a few of its members) will likely all but abandon their season ticket fans in favour of more tourists at games. There are already significant numbers of fans travelling for games from abroad, and it's no coincidence that clubs are building hotels in or around their stadiums. I suppose the silver lining may be televised 3pm games on UK TV, but I suspect it's more likely that clubs will run their own subscription services, so you pay through the nose to see your club and not be there, with a far less engaged fan base in the stadiums.
Cant wait. Season ticket holders think too highly of themselves
@@SK-kh2rs it may make for more positive and louder crowds, I suppose, as they'll be more excited to be there live.
Fans were able ti keep the super league away, now it looks like they have another fight in their hands
They will kill the game, they already are by pricing out fans, continually moving fixtures. I used to follow my team home & away for 40 years. I've now stopped going as I'm rapidly falling out of love with the game. I don't even watch all the games on tv now due to the saturation. Wonder where the game will be in 20 years as youngster's now have many other options. Many youngster's wear club shirts as a fashion accessory & know very little about the club they supposedly support..
Joburg!!! SA on the map baby🎉🇿🇦
Our top-flight league was better when there were no American owners in it. The homegrown fans have been forgotten and the Premier League is not the best league in the world for several reasons, American owners taking over clubs, ripping the heart out of them, lining their pockets and fraudulently lying to the supporters. Inept referering from our own homegrown referees. The FA putting a gun to players heads and denying them the right to speak openly and honestly about the standards of referees, the list goes on. And to add to the mix, the 🇺🇸 owners of 4 of the original 6 trying to damage the whole of English football by setting up a seperstr closed division where no promotion or relegation was included.
The Premier League has shown that American owners can do as they please and not be punished, where as Abramovich was kicked out and they are trying to possibly oust Mansour and his ownership at City. Absolute hypocrites.
Its our culture if the yanks want to see PL football they can get a flight over here the PL is in the bin isnt this what pre season tours are for
You literally copy American culture non stop and would be speaking german if it wasn’t for us. We are a bigger market than you and the average American has more money than you. If we want a game we will have it in the states.
Greed. I am sick of professional football now.
I paid £900 for my season ticket this year. Ive had it for ober twenty years. Are they going to take a game off me?
Bloody hell that's alot. Who do you support?
Players managers complain about to many games n travel, they do it in preseason now they want during the season. Greed
They have no choice.
Imagine Palace v Wolves in Miami..
Cant wait for that one 😂
Only the sky 6 clubs
Nobody cares about Palace and Wolves
@@ziudra91 well done 👍 that was my point 😅
If the games would be played where the team are owned not a sungle game would be played in Brexit 😂😂😂😂
Wolves and palace are no mugs
@@user-nd5fz5jd9o They are in fact mugs
They should do the caraboa cup abroad instead. With it being winner of one leg and one team gets to play at home. Now if it abroad no team gets to play at home.
Yeah it will start with that and then the rest will join, there is noone in England who cares about football culture they just wnat to sell their clubs and make money. Look att Newcastle 😂
If our sport goes abroad then it ain’t English football.
Melt fc back again 😊
Abroad = USA
Football's dead been made so ugly for so long am just too far invested I love my club I love what football was so I can't let go but I didn't sign up for this
I agree with Andy, but I think it's definitely coming, it's all about money in football nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me either if the champions league final was played in The U.S, South America or Asia someday very soon. 💁🏼♂️
lets just have all sport played in Saudi, they have the most money so why not(sarcasm) Ultra capitalism is cancer
Premier leauge should be played outside as broadcast revenue comes form global audiance, Asia has largest premier leauge fan base, more than UK population.
Why? Just because people watch on TV doesn't mean the games have to be played there.
@@russellward4624 ofcourse they have to, for their fan base, premier leauge product you talk about is popular because of its global reach, you have to do it for fans, they bring revenue, economy drives every decision.
@@CRTagadiya Those people in Asia are not fan's. They're just people that watch football. You're not a proper fan unless you have a local connection to your club.
@@burnaardnufc3173 absolutely bullshit point, premiere league is way it is today is because of global fans.
@@burnaardnufc3173 we're fans who are watching our teams playing around midnight, sometimes post midnight, purchasing merchandise, emotionally involved
Most football fans go to a game for the Crowd, not to watch the football
You can dress 11 players up in Liverpool kits and play a game now anywhere around the world, but ZERO Scousers will turn up with their songs and attitude
You cant take the crowds
Its just like these idiot game studios buying the name, losing all the weirdo talent , replacing them with normal people and every single game they make is rubbish
They don't understand its not a brand name that does it , its magic
There will be games played in America. Nobody can stop it, it’s just a matter of time. Capitalism has done that.
If this happens football fans will moan about it but carry on paying for their sports subscriptions, buying their merchandise and season tickets. The reason the clubs and governing bodies keep crapping on the fans is because they know the fans are like crackheads who will continue coughing up money for their next fix, regardless of how badly they are treated or how boring the sport is compared to 20 years ago.
Fa cup final on new year , here we go 🎉
They don't knwo Johnny Clegg
They can have all Chelsea’s home games next season. Already not interested
Cu games could be played overseas
Andys supposedly Irish😂
Nonsense
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I think all United games should be played in US, its their team let them do whatever they want with it.
Maybe a cup final would be a good idea now and then overseas
NFL games are played in England
And? NFL is football. NFL regular season games don't count the way PL games count. They don't play playoff games overseas. Football is based on a home and away model. You take away home games you effect the competive balance. Not only have the teams not played the same schedule but they've added a level of difficulty of travel nobody else has.
The only game could be the Community Shield! And as it’s lost its value, the League Cup Final, possibly!
At least United and Liverpool fans will get to see their team live...without having to book flights to England!
No if they want to watch games u go to old Trafford or Anfield
Why would you go to Anfield or Old Trafford if the matches are held in Saudi Arabia? The irony is that most of their fans are foreigners living in England. If the matches are held abroad, they'll have to fly back to where they came from in the first place!
@@garywallace5602 I’ve no proplem with foreign fans I myself am from Ireland but the idea that the games are going to be played in USA for the fans is laughable it’s for money .
Football's gone mad. World Cup with 48 teams played over 3 countries. Who can afford the tickets, exactly...other than David sodding Beckham?
@@Cathal0303 Irish people that hate England but support English clubs are a joke. The American fans are better.
Always piggybacking off United.
yes yes yes do it !! only people that don't like it are the same moaning dinosaur english fans consistently trying to stop progress, but who cares about them anyway lol 😂😂😂
football is DYING
It’s happening just get used to the idea if anyone thinks any owner of any sport cares about the fans then you are living on the moon
Sorry boys I’m from the US I can’t argue against myself here…. I’d be remiss if I acted like I don’t wanna see a Chelsea game here
Then go on a pilgrimage to Stamford Bridge like a real fan. Clubs are named after their communities because they are intertwined. That's why they aren't named after cartoon animals.
Just dont let celtic rangers in