Kamado Joe Jr VS Big Green Egg MiniMax VS Char-Griller Akorn Jr | Which Is the BEST Small Kamado
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- I LOVE Small Kamado grills, today I want to find out which is BEST between my Kamado Joe Jr, The Big Green Egg MiniMax and the Char-Griller Akorn Jr.
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Chapters
00:00 - Testing the Kamado Joe Jr VS Big Green Egg MiniMax VS Char-Griller Akorn Jr
02:06 - Specs & Pricing
08:07 - Firing up each grill
09:45 - How do they grill Chicken
10:34 - Impressions of each grill
13:47 - Taste test & results (chicken)
15:54 - How do they reverse sear a steak
18:54 - Taste test & results (steak)
22:12 - Are they safe to use on a picnic table? Heat transfer test
23:48 - Results, and which I would buy (again)
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I bought my KJ in 2012 and have added many mods as they came available. When the KJ Jr came out I thought it would be great for camping,but was concerned about the weight and fragility. When I saw the Akorn JR on sale for $99 it was a no brainer. Since then it has been on every camping trip, including a 3 month trip to Alaska. I had 2 fiends order a Akorn Jr from the campground after sharing meals with them.
Inspired by the JK divide and conquer system, I cut 3, 5/16 steel rods to fit on the stone brackets and cut 2 half moon deflector plates from granite tiles ($0.99 each) on my wet saw. While I was at it, I cliped the corners off another 12x12 tile for a pizza stone. Not bad for $3 of materials. The single half moon plate alows for a no touch roast/seare setup. A burnt sear can't be blamed on the grill. By the way, a 12 in dutch oven fits fits nicely on the stone taps allowing you to do all of your DO favorites with easy temp control. The dome provids heat to the lid so no need to add top coals.
I liked it so much that I bought a second one for home use, the first one is a permanent resident in back seat of my truck so I can't forget to pack it for camping. As for durability, my first one is still going strong after 8 years and hunders of cooks(grilling, smoking, and baking) by keeping it covered rust has not been a problem
Thanks for this response. I miss when it was on sale for $100 about 2 months ago and I'm kicking myself. I'm glad someone is at success with it
I’ve never heard anyone regret buying a BGE. I have with the others. I have the MiniMax and it’s spectacular
FYI The Weber Smokey Joe S/S grill grate at 14" fits my Akorn Jr. Gives me the option of either grate depending on my cook.
does that prevent the issue in the video of burnt taste on the steak?
Hey James just wanted to point something out real quick. If you look at the akorn jr. The grill grate has notches that when lined up with the tabs on the side allow the grate to sit about an inch further down closer to the coals. Just wanted to point that out since it can change the measurements. Great video btw! I watch them all.
Good video as always! Thank you James
Thanks for all that work..
As always, great video! I have a Primo Oval Jr as my mini kamado. It's not portable but it does have versatility and the shape allows for two zone grilling.
I have to tell you that after this I think I’m going to buy the Akorn for my camper. If the only downsides are the high heat for searing (which I think I can learn to control) and the build quality (which like you said for the price works out fine), this seems like the right choice. Thanks James!
You won’t be disappointed. It’s a very capable cooker, you just have to take care of it because it’s made of metal. It can’t be left in the elements.
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I've had an Akorn Jr since 2019 and use it exclusively for camping. I average about 4 weeks of camping a year and grill more or less looks like new other than the colour on the ash tray is faded a bit from the heat. With experience you can manage the heat for everything from low and slow to searing. For example when bringing the heat for a reverse sear, you can delay putting the grill back in so it doesn't get too hot. I don't see the grill wearing or rusting out any time soon so IMO and excellent grill for taking camping. Totally happy with it.
I've been watching the price on the Joe Jr all summer and have seen it for sale at several different places for $ 298.00. Wal Mart is currently selling it for this price and in stock(In US).
I saw it for $250 from a place called BJ’s in the last year and a half.
@@Markisflippinsweet Holy crap - Wal Mart on this day has the Classic Joe on sale for $480.00. Man I wish I would have waited a couple weeks lol.
I bought two cheap kamado’s, both arrived broken, so the day before going on the road I bought a Joe Jnr - love it, did two pulled pork’s, loads of steaks, chickens etc - now it’s at home and complements my Classic3 I am very happy with the Joe Jnr, very solid bit of kit and great quality - kinda relieved you settled on it too! 😀
Thank you James. Having owned a KJC3, I purchased a KJ Junior 6 months ago, having strongly considered the Akorn (the Minimax was never a consideration, given price, verastility and brand loyalty to KJ). This video had validated my decision and also shown that in terms of quality, the KJ is where it is at. I agree though, the BGEMM looks great...but once you go red, it's hard to go green...would look weird on the patio 😂
Right on!
Another great video. Ive been eyeing on small cooking kamado to purchase and this will def help in the future. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the comparison video. You're the Tom Silva of ceramic BBQ grills!
I have one of ash baskets. It's one of the best extra items I bought for my Kamado. Thanks for another nice video today. I learn alot of useful things from watching them .
Thanks for watching!
Great to see a comparison so we know what's out there. Thanks!
I got an Akorn for nearly free a couple of years ago, and, for me, it is the way to go. Your video didn't mention a few things that i thought might make a difference for future buyers:
1. How easy it is to empty the ashes (the bottom comes right off!)
2. The grill grate has two height settings! Super easy to change.
3. You can light it from the top, or the bottom. Bottom burning gives a different kind of burn, which i think you have mentioned before.
Anyhow, nice job on the comparison, but I think the crazy price difference, and the head-to-head similarities make the Akorn a smidge or so ahead.
Cool clips of the Fundy Trail parkway. We are lucky to ride this road in summer and snowmobile on them in winter. Great comparison between all grills. Have a fire extinguisher handy 😅.
James, my first of your vids and enjoyed it, thanks. Im gonna opt for the Akorn as it will be going with us on the travel trailer. What did you buy for a gasket? Im gonna put one on.
Thanks for this. I think i will pick up an akorn jr to go with my BJ3. One day. These head to head videos are great.
My Akron jr. is absolute workhorse. I love it. I can’t wait for the day I can get a big boy.
I picked up an Akorn Jr for $99.00 at Home Depot this week. Figured I couldn’t go wrong at that price.
Was it marked down by clearance?
@@abeldaking it was a one day, Spring “Black Friday” sale.
Well gotta get the ash collector now. When I got my Jr, I got the Ceramic Grill Store Woo ring which lets you pull the grate and the deflector out at one time. I set it on a piece of sheet metal.
*** Acorn Jr ***
There's is a shim on the lid of the acorn that can be removed that will line up the latch. And there is two positions for the grill so you can get it closer to the heat deflector. There is definitely a learning curve with cast iron.
Do you think being higher towards the dome may have helped the Joe Jr? I have the woo and it works great for the minimax.
Great review.
Thanks!
All kidding aside I have a Joe jr and two Big Joes. Bobby B. Made me an offer to switch from Green Eggs to KJ around 2012 and I have never looked back. Bought my kids one each and they live by them. Great videos.
Right on
Hi James,
I wonder how would Golden's cast iron 14" cooker do in this comparison?
I'm curious if you're ever going to review any of their products.
Great video as always 👍
great video as usual! A bit of a shame you don't have a Monolith Icon to go up against these, would have been great to hear your thoughts on the removable lid. between the 3 my choice would be between the akorn (weight and price if I take it out alot) and joe jr (quality and efficiency if I keep it at home mostly). thanks again
I think portability is the only thing that really matters here for anyone who has bigger higher quality kamados at home.
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Totally agree. I have the Acorn Jr for camping and a ceramic kamado for at home.
Great video James I have a joe jr and classic 2 love both of them. I use the jr if its just my wife and I grilling burgers or 1 steak and sides.
Right on
I just got the Acorn Jr. last week. Love it! P.S. I’m new to this channel and was confused based on the scenery in the beginning with you sounding like you’re from MINISODA! Then I realized you must be Canadian! 😂
The head-to-head videos are so useful. I'm actually surprised that the BGE can still charge what they do with all the competition out there in that form factor. It seems like the market would have driven the price down to be more competitive especially considering the additional equipment that comes with the KJ.
I suppose BGE is capitalizing on the name recognition. I know some people who are not tuned to the BBQ world, but that had heard the name BIG Green Egg, They think that is the brand to buy.
It looks purdy though 😂
Joe JR was on sale today for less than 200 through Walmart too!!
@@DonutIgnoramus showing out of stock now. Are you seeing that too?
@@wesleydrew9242 unfortunately, yes. However, it commonly goes on sale for 300, which I think is a good price as well. I'm sure we'll see more sales as the summer season wraps up.
I wish you had included the Weber Smokey Joe. For camping, tailgating, and picnics, it's hard to beat for the weight. I've having a hard time seeing the value for the mini kamados given their weight. For on the go, weight is important. If weight isn't a factor, then stepping up to a larger size seems to make more sense.
💯 it’s a great camper
I’ve got an Akorn Jr and I’m not a fan of the deflector plate. I feel that it leaves a much larger gap in the side than the Joe Jr and the MM. Are the deflector plates from those two units able to fit the Akorn Jr?!Are there any other accessories from Joe Jr and MM that fits the Akorn Junior?
I have both the Akorn Jr and the Joe Jr. There’s nothing the more expensive JJ can do the Akorn Jr can’t. That said, as you mentioned, the Akorn Jr is made of metal so it has to be taken care of more meticulously than the JJ. Other than that, the Akorn Jr is a VERY capable mini-Kamado.
I packed the Akorn on my trip because it fits under the truck bed cover sideways and won’t break
I love my joe junior. Such an awesome grill for a nice price. I can use it for all the same dishes as my big joe 3
When you say you take off the heat deflector and go store it safely where do you put it? I know not on the concrete and we don’t have an outdoor kitchen.
kick ash basket 8567 fits the Akorn Jr, and sounds like you should have taken the steak off the Akorn Jr sooner
also I sealed the bottom vent on the Akorn Jr, unscrew the big screw on the right and slide vent out and put the felt seal on it too
Great video! I've been trying to decide between a KJ Jnr and KJ big joe 3... struggling to decide between the price to functionality trade-off...
Save your money and get the original big Joe and get some of the upgrades for it.
James has a great video comparing
The series 1 to the series 3 and the upgrades he recommends.
In the end he went series 1 because he could buy the series 1 with the upgrades and a Joe jr and still have money left over.
That was the route I went and couldn’t be happier. I take my jr tailgating and camping and use it at home when there are just two of us
Hoe you can want junior or big joe? Are you cooking for 2 people or 10?
I have a kj classic 2 with all the trimmings but I love my akorn Jr a lot more.
However, I didn't love the cast iron grate so I got a stainless grate for under $30 dollars from aliexpress. I also use the charcoal cast iron grate from my kj2 classic on top of the soap stone combined with a very shallow stainless drip tray (also from Ali) to do double indirect.
BTW the biggest gap I found was around the bottom vent. I rtx'd that and now it holds very well at 265 and above. I don't bother trying 250 as it is just too easy to snuff fire
I have akorn jr, I love it.
such a great value
I did a job for someone that moved and they said I can have there grill. It was a big acorn and I love it. I'm cooking all summer on it again like last summer
awesome
any thoughts on the kamado firehawk?
My KJJr is the best purchase I’ve made in recent memory. Got it 4 years ago for my bday. Perfect for city living and cooking for me and my fiancé + a few friends when I’m feeling like hosting
Totally agree!
Sorry to hear all the setbacks you encounter currently. Never feel guilty towards your viewers regarding this. We all respect your personal life and totally understand that should always come first. Hoop things will swing your way soon and best wishes for your dad 🙏🏽
Thank you for this comparison. I noticed that before the cook the Akorn's grate was significantly dirtier than the other two, do you think that may have contributed to the burnt taste?
I did the same cooks on each but any variable could contribute for sure. Cast iron stores more energy than the alloy grids on the other two
In my humble opinion, the Weber Jumbo Joe blows all 3 of these out of the water. A few inexpensive mods (you can use a quality stainless drip pan as a heat deflector) turns it into a very good smoker with so much more room (you can use all of the 17.5 inch grill grate). Fully loaded with all the tools and accessories (lighters, small chimney, thermometers, extra grates, tongs, spatula, grill brush, stainless skewers, stainless drip pan, etc.), it weighs about 27 pounds.
So it smokes great and sears great (easily gets to 600 degrees). Have not tried pizza on it, but maybe I should.
Agree it’s an amazing camper
100%
Couldn’t have said it better, lighter, larger, and way way more value!
I too love my Jumbo Joe! I bought the Jumbo Joe version of the Slow'n Sear for it many years ago and it still works great! Can't beat Weber!
I have one for camping. Not even in the same universe as a BGE. Not close to the same capabilities
I’ve just bought a second hand Joe jr, it’s a great addition to the classic 2
100%
Happen to get an acorn jr for 50 barely used with the smoking stone .
Hi James, thank you for the compmetition! But do you know the German "Monolith Icon"? I think this is the next generation of small portable kamado.
head shaker - james has the BGE minimax listed at $753 in this video. "mal-wart" currently has a sale on the kj big joe 1 at $719. WOW, just wow. mal-wart also has the kj junior on sale right now for $298 and the kj classic 1 for $480. with price and performance, the kj is gonna win all day long at those "fire sale" prices.
Yep, I already had a Joe Jr but I couldn't pass up the Big joe at $720 US. It should be here next Monday !
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Just ordered Joe JR from Walmart at 298 free shipping. Hopefully it arrives in good shape. Also bought accessories from Kick Ask.
Yes! I love seeing content for the mini kamados!
I got the junior to accompany my classic 3 and LOVE it.
With several accessories for the classic 3 being around the $350 mark, spending $500 on the junior isn't too bad.
I can cook fast and efficient dinners while my classic 3 is doing long full day cooks. I also feel like the junior will pay for itself in the long run with how little charcoal is needed.
Please, do a comparison between Kamado Joe and Vision Grill! Thanks
I emailed them and they never responded
I absolutely love the Akorn JR. It's inexpensive lightweight and not made of ceramic so it won't crack if it gets knocked over in the bed of a truck or stored away and a camper. For a year it was my only grill because I lived in an apartment and had a small balcony. When I bought a house I got a regular acorn auto Kamado because I loved the acorn Jr so much.
Was that salt creek and Elwah river bridge?
what about checking out the little aldi ones? they're a bit smaller, and you can find them for like 70 bucks
I'm looking into getting one of these small ones. I'm thinking the green egg
Congrats on your new Kamado
I wonder how these compare to using a travel sns ?
That’s more like a jumbo Joe Weber than a Kamado
Wouaw très intéressant 🎉
Thanks!
I just purchased a new Kamado Joe Jr for 99.95! Store was clearing out inventory.
That's a steal!
I need help bbq dad. After watching your videos i bought a joe jr but, i cant get it really hot. I can only get it to 400°. What am i doing wrong?
its either air flow or charcoal. start with one issue at a time (air flow). make sure your bottom firebox is centred and the gap is alined with the front door so that the air is coming in. make sure charcoal isnt touching the bottom heat deflector and then move on to the charcoal brand if that doesn't fix it but for most people its an airflow issue
Just a clarification. I know the price still is more, not denying that one bit. But the mini Max on the BGE Canadian website, comes with an ash tool and conveggator and grill gripper.
In your video more than you once it was pointed out that BGE does not include it in the purchase compared to the other two brands
. I didn't see anywhere on the BGE website where you could buy mini Max without those three accessories.
Thanks for putting in the time to do these comparison videos.
I used the bundle that comes with those things to make it apples to apples
I waited for my BKJ3 that was "misplaced" during shipment and found the KJjr for $300 from Memorial Day to Father's Day. What a steal! Your KJ rankings video sold me on the big and jr. Thank you!
Very nice!
Keep an eye out at Walmart every year or so. I picked up my acorn about four years ago for $99. It has performed out in the field quite often very well.
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@@SmokingDadBBQwould you happen to know when the Kamado Joes go on sale?
@@darrenhughes8106 no sorry. Retailers often do Father’s Day and Black Friday
@@SmokingDadBBQ thanks!
@@SmokingDadBBQ I won the jackpot today! I was looking on Home Depot website and the Kamado Joe Jr is $299.99!!! It will be here Tuesday!! Cant wait to cook up all the good things I see you cooking!!
Sometimes you can get a great sale price on the Jr.
Walmart has it for < $300 now and it's even lower other times of the year.
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I went with the cheap one because I'm poor. I love it
I don't see real brisket vid using Akorn Jr. Is that because it's not possible to do slow smoking?
Dang you’re costing me money, just purchased a Joe JR and Kick Ash basket and ash can 😂
yeah that akorn rusted out rings true, i was buying a used grill and someone was willing to give me for free their regular sized akorn grill and the bottom was completely rusted out. im gonna use tinfoil to try to salvage it and use it for like a year hopefully
Hope it lasts for you
Joe Jr is on sale rn online at Walmart. 287$
James, you’re supposed to be on vacation! But thank again for another great vid!😅
And I knew the KJ Jr was going to win, but your objectivity is admirable throughout the process 😁
I am open to switching when something is better. Will say the Akorn is what I packed for my trip as it won’t break in the back of the truck
Now, if one really wants portability, low weight, and small size, my BGE Mini (no Max), with its 10" grid makes a great.....mini.....grill, and at about 35 lbs.
Yup, the Mini is truly hard to beat! I have both and I have to say I use the mini more than my Max (or Large, for that matter.) Poor Jr just sits there unused most of the time unless I'm doing pizzas.
I have one of those and love the novelty of it
You should do a BGE vs KJ vs PRIMO GRILL
I’d love to make that happen. Know anyone at primo? Their general email never responds
Smoking dad I would love to see a full packer cook on the acorn jr.
I’m surprised you haven’t done a grill brush head to head hahaha
I honestly think the only real difference is how much it hurts your wallet. I’ll take the Acorn Jr. since your average carnivore won’t notice the small differences
OUCH! User error on the akorn cast iron grates made me cringe 😢
Joe Junior 101 video next?
Love my Joe Jr. if I could only have one, it would be the Joe.
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Crusty bread?!
It's stale!! Poor Akorn gets MY vote...
also least INexpensive !
@ Home Depot! ❤
its the one i chose to take with us on our camping trip this summer as its durable and lighter ... and the largest
I own a joe jr I would never spend $500 on it . During holiday time you can get it as low as $250
I always say I'm too poor to buy cheap Joe jr might be the way to go here
Kamado joe Jr it's on sale at Walmart for ever now for 298$
Smoking deal
I can not see spending that much money for a ceramic one over a dual wall one. If something is cheaper and does the exact same thing. Logic would tell you to buy the cheaper one.
Buying just for visual or just to say you have the expensive one. Makes no sense to me. Thanks for the review.
I mean no blame, but it seems from this video like MM is not capable of doing long runs. That is not true. I love my MM for being able to keep 300 F for 6 hours with just tiny amount of charcoal. I cook pulled pork and lamb leg on MM easily.
thats not the message, it was unable to do these two cooks as the others were. i have done many 8hr pork shoulders low and slow no problem as well
if you burn searing that's on you not the cooker.
Joe Jr is $194 @ Walmart. “Hurry up and buy!!’
I wish I could tell you how annoying I find people that refer to meat as "proteins." "Gonna grill me up some edamame and mung beans!"
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It's like a phone.... apple didn't invent the iphone, but they made it the best. In this case. green egg invented the komodo..... and Komodoe joe perfected it.
I like ribs. UGH
😂 cheers
golden cast iron mini kamado is not here...
Can’t buy em all sorry
The Joe Junior use to be $299! Yikezzzzz! Let go Brandon!
Because he controls an Australian companies prices in Canada? The Joe Jr was always $399 from my recollection.
It is the same price in usd
Shocking you picked the KJ as the best one.......brand loyalty or because you get free stuff from KJ ?
I bought my jr and this egg. What fact is incorrect? The egg costing more or being smaller and less versatile
The experiment with the grills was informative your rambling on was a no
There’s chapters
Heyo, what's up James, you're THE father of CZcams, anyways definitely agree Lil' Joe Junior takes the cake for best Mini Kamado. Also, there's been a lot of CZcamsr colabs, but none of them beat your colab with @EatMoreVegans, you should consider another one. Homies love it.
-Love you daddy of smoking BBQ's
You mentioned the temperature two of them had for searing the steaks but didn’t mentioned what the Akorn Jr. was. What was it?
It was around 600 dome
@@SmokingDadBBQ
Thanks !
I own both the Akorn and Akorn Junior along with the Kamado Classic III. I find it just takes different techniques to manage the fire to get the same kind of results. I don't run any of them with the same amount of charcoal. The longer you use them, the more you discover what works the best. Had my Akorn Junior the longest, probably 6 years and no corrosion issues , I just clean it out after every use and give the steel ring below the fire box a light coat of oil occasionally. I'd say that ash left in the pan for long periods of time in wet or humid weather would be the most likely cause of corrosion. Low and slow can be an issue with the junior like you've pointed out a few times so I'm going to try the gasket mod that you did. The double deflector trick definitely works a treat. Thanks for the great ideas!