The Great Stink of 1858
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According to the only book I currently have on my desk, everyone poops and that’s okay. What’s less okay though is when there’s nowhere for that poop to go- something people in Victorian era London found out first hand when all of the sewage they’d pumped into the Thames dried up and caused a stench that spurred London’s City Press to note- “Gentility of speech is at an end-it stinks, and whoso once inhales the stink can never forget it and can count himself lucky if he lives to remember it.”
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So does that mean in about 30 years the Thames river maybe a problem again seeing how big the population is now
Poop
So the people from ancient times were smarter. You know don't shit where you eat and other old text passages 😂
*I've ALways said that EngLish PeoPLe Stink, & So, ALL their Pre History,*
*The War of Roses, Queen Liz, Protestants, It is ALL WorthLess Shit!!!*
How to get politicians to act on an issue:
Make sure it also affects them.
@Tom Voke i myself am a fan of anal based impailment on a large wooden pole
@@inhumanfilth681 really weird comment now Tom deleted his reply
@@skoapiee ok lol?
right but if we do that with climate change then it will be too late.
And that's how the politicians actually started fixing the great dust bowl. Only when they where sucking down dust did they do something.
My father works in a very small city, and once after failing to reelect himself, the mayor of the city decided to stop making any effort during his last months of government and stopped paying the waste collection service. Soon enough it was pilling up and people were done, some of them told my father what was happening, his solution: just dump the trash on the front of the mayor's house - problem solved.
Anaaewp is your dad a city administrator? Lol
Anaaewp Excellent trolling. I would love to see the mayor’s face at that.
Italy?
lol. Did it work? Tell me it did.
@@bunnyyamor3154 He is a doctor. Doesn't work there anymore, he left because he said politicians were trying to use his name to gather votes.
"People didn't want to believe they were causing the problem."
The more I learn about history, the more I learn how little things actually change.
…thus making me extremely pessimistic about the future lot of civilization in response to climate change. Human nature, alas, remains constant, and for the most part, predictable.
@@michael.whelan2537 If things get bad enough then perhaps things might change.
The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.
Man reading the Bible ive learned only technology has changed
@Billyd4Reel But your dog also poops, without contributing much productivity to society.
And they said Jon Snow knows nothing! Phah!
Literally looked for a John Snow reference after he was mentioned.
Bart Geerts There is a mini series about the sewage problem, look up "Thee Broad Street Pump" and subsequently, "The sanitation movement", both made by Extra History (a sub section of the Extra Credits channel). It goes into detail about the topic of Jon Sno and the sewage and disease problems.
YOU BEAT ME TO IT.
Bart Geerts Simon whistler forgot to mention that there was a brewery on the same street as the water pump. The staff of the brewery never got ill as they never drank the water but drunk the beer from the brewery.
Bart Geerts looks like a job for a ginger
There's something funny about The Queen of England being like: "Lord, heavens! Turn this fucking boat back around I just can't...."
I can just picture her gagging and tears running down her face from the stench, and her makeup running all over the place. All the while, she is stuffing those flowers as far as she can into her face.
No small wonder Bazelgett was Knighted then, eh?
I just got a very vivid picture of her elegance leaving her mid sentence.
"Please, sir... turn this... no, let's go. Fucking go. Gogogogogogogog. I can't. *retch* fuckkkkkkkkk."
Politicians. They're all the same...they don't care about the crap they've put the people through until they have to wade through it themselves!
Jacqueline Zanders this exact same thing is happening here in canada on the reservation they have bad drinking water it somes out the taps dark brown and the government has been ignoring it for years now because the natives were just buying all their water from the stores and if anyone complained they would throw it back on them that maybe they should just buy water like everyone else. only this year has someone from the government to actually went there to look at all the evidence and talk with the people so they hope it will be fixed now.
Wow, that's sad. Which reservation is this?
Jacqueline Zanders Not just politicians. EVERY.SINGLE.PERSON.
Same with climate change now...
josh greg josh greg nahh it's not like that. you didn't mention how they get free money, housing, and post secondary from the government, coming out of tax payers money. now they want more free shit because they don't want to move into somewhere with infrastructure where they'd have to pay taxes!
the definition of the "good old days ": a time so long ago that people don't remember how fucking bad it was.
everything changes but so many patterns remain the same
@calihartley2010 IIRC this has been studied (caveat... I'm not a sociologist or psychologist). The good old days are 5-10 years before any given individual was born. As they age they learn more about how messed up the world is and back-project that awareness to a time when everything was (in their mind) safe and lovely - this turns out to be just before they were born (ie just before they became aware of their unconditional parental love). The insanity of this is such that early Boomers see WW2 as a golden age and Gen X see the height of the cold war as a time of paradise. People are screwed by biases of this nature.
@calihartley2010 before 1965 you had the cold war going on full swing and the Soviets and Americans playing a game of who can get as many countries on their side as possible.
@calihartley2010 actually worse. What is better nowadays is the presence of internet and fast data transfer, which allows even the smallest event to be instantly transmitted across the globe and inflated beyond recognition. Back then the world was worse, and it was way larger.
calihartley2010 Once again, so long ago that they had forgotten how bad it was
"It would become Poseidon's problem"
Man I don't know why but I found it extremely hilarious
You think they would learn to be cleaner after the black death, but ok
People now do the same with climate change problem ignoring it and refusoing to take responsibility
Confettifun they were drinking shit water thats like taking a dump flushing then grabing a cup and scooping water out to drink it
Luis Delgado if you flushed and it didn't stick on the sides I could drink it.. If you give me 50dollars
ANtoine Nat jesus man you will drink shit water for 50 bucks
Luis Delgado hold my beer
4:30 _"People didn't want to believe they had been causing the problem"_ Yep, that pretty much sums up humans..
Joseph Bazalgette is my hero. His ingenious design for the London sewer network and foresight to account for future growth saved London and turned it into a great city. His ideas and concepts were adopted around the world, including in my home city of Melbourne, Australia. We all owe him a great dept.
Truly an influential man
+Today I Found Out "people didn't want to believe they had been causing the problem and had been inadvertently consuming their own filth" a timeless feature of human society. 04:28
It's amazing that people who thought poop in their drinking water, or in the streets, was fine ended up being the power of the planet for hundreds of years.
Good video. Rome was able to grow to the size it did because of its "Cloaca Maxima" or great sewer. I visited it some years ago and parts of it are still in use. Civilization and waste disposal are inextricably bound and those who ignore it must endure the stink.
When discussing society and civilization with others , this is my primary argument . Without safe , efficient plumbing handing clean water and sewage , towns can only grow so large before it becomes impossible to live in .
That smelly smell.
Armageddin I like smelly smells
Matthew Pineau What?
Caleb Horton Quoting Spongebob bro. Get with the program xD
I was quoting too. That's Squidward's line after Mr. Krabs says "anchovies." Get with the program.
+Caleb Horton
ANCHOVIES!
Well isn't that a shitty situation
Bazalgette's story is something in itself. When the government finally got him to finally draw up his plans, they kept shooting them down as being too expensive to carry out, even after a dozen cheaper versions. And when he even first suggested his ideas, they were shot by his supervisors as being too outlandish. It was when the whole of london townspeople were banging on the governments door, that he got the go ahead.
My great grandfather lived in London (Brixton) after 1870 until emigrating to the US in 1883. His first children died as children: Caroline Frances 1873-1874; Eleanor Kate 1875-1876; John Stapely 1880-1888 (in New York City) Hester 1889-1889 (NYC); James Lowe 1890-1891 (NYC) Bad time to be a child in big cities.
Netflix ➡️ "Seven Wonders of The Industrial World" ➡️ "The Sewer King"
If you want to learn more about this
Candle Duck It appears that that show is no longer on Netflix. When I search for it I only get "Titles related to:" for it.
tallman11282 It still shows-up on mine - must be using Netflix from different countries
ehc680 might have to check that out, thanks
Candle Duck That may be why, not all titles are available everywhere due to licensing and whatnot. I'm in the United States.
This show is where I found out about the Crossness Pumping Station, a building that was both very functional and very beautiful.
Milwaukee had the same problem in the late 1890's. They called on Allis Chalmers to build the world's largest pump (a record that stood until about 10 yrs ago) .The pump was so large it could make the Milwaukee's River run backwards. The pump flushed the waste out into lake Michigan. It was originally run by a steam engine, but later switched to electric. It was the first pump made as a prop, rather than a reciprocating pistons. The "experts" of the day told Allis they would drink ever glass of water that pump would move. They thought the design was utter folly. The pump took almost a year longer to complete than originally thought, but when started ,even at half speed it broke all records , pumping a million gallons a minute
Is it still operational today?
Binford 5000
@@simontay4851 No, it was only used for emergency pumping situations to take care of storm water, some debris for in it, and chipped on of the impeller blades, so they took it out of operation, and rented the building out to a coffee shop, so you can still look down in the pit and see it.
Oh man, people back then really had it bad, their elected officials did nothing about horrible pollution and widespread health issues affecting their citizens, and paid no attention to science! Good thing we have it much better in the modern day and age, what with various environmental agencies being well funded and government leaders that prioritize protecting our health and the environment over monetary and corporate interests!
Right guys?
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guys?
all the smart people are never in power and all the dumb selfish people always are in power
Thing is, smart people do not like politics, it's like children fights to them and therefore politicians tend to consist of idiots with loud mouths.
rafflesmaos Yup, good thing.
I feel like you're trying to be sarcastic but it's actually pretty true. Health hazards are usually contained pretty well.
+MrDosonhai You just gave the perfect description of the current US president... -.-
rafflesmaos It’s pretty decent now. Very few environmental hazards occur and things are actually better now than they were then, people just don’t want to admit it.
So interesting. sometimes funny but not repetitive. and so packed with information. This is why i love this channel
I thought you were gonna start off with
"Hey, Vsauce. Michael here.."
You just know some lucky guy had a really bad sinus problem that summer, and didn't smell a damn thing.
Probably the only time in history that a sinus problem was a good thing!
The Great Leader Kim Jong Un doesn't poop!
Bob Thorn, No he lays golden eggs.
Bob Thorn Therefore he is indeed full of shit
Bob Thorn because his shit flows out the other end!
+Bob Thorn That's because Mike Ock is pluggin up his pooper.
Christy, I wish he did, for his people's sake
Turn on the heater. Poor Simon looks cold.
Vincent Adultman They need your donations to pay for heat. if everybody donates one dollar this will be rectified in five minutes. Please operators are standing by.
White American Male what's the point?
Wouldn't it be ironic to die in the living room?
Indigenous Peoples in the Americas knew that pooping in the water was bad, mostly just by observing how most other land animals treated water with respect.
Proves that if you just look at something that works and do the same you won't screw up
John Kimber That's not completely true. Before Christianity came along and messed up things, personal hygiene and waste disposal were important issues, especially under the Romans.
animals poop in water
Travis Wysote The bit about “land animals treating the water with respect” is nonsense. Have you ever seen cattle, or anything else, drink from a stream? Do you know how much they crap and pee in the water? There are documented cases of hippos in Africa overpopulating and poisoning the water with their own excrement to such an extent that other animals who drank from the water’s surface died. Please. Don’t romanticize nonsense.
Marie Antoinette would have moved away to a 'country estate', and said: "Let them smell poop".
Oooooo! That smell. Can't you smell that smell?! The smell that surrounds yooooou!
Nice comment, my favorite band. Jsyk its "the smell of death surrounds you" Positive vibrations, friend
Hi Simon and company, I'm here from the video on "did people really throw their waste out of the window".
I've watched both with great interest. Thanks for all you do
"Was this video interesting? " absolutely fantastic my friend. I am writing a novel concerning life in London at this time--wonderful!!
Can you do a video about the Great Emu War of 1932?
JazzFan222 never use a lewis gun against emus
I've read some stuff on that, but I'd also love a video by these guys.
Yes please!
there's also an amazing subreddit dedicated to it
David -flamingsword1 Amazing? That whole subreddit is literally shitposting.
"You know nothing, Dr. Jon Snow"
samy said extra credit
In this case he did know something.
Watching this video in 2023 really shows how much Simon has developed as a CZcams personality. This is just straight facts with no tangent or any of his personal opinions littered in.
I have to say it does make his 500 or so channels allot more interesting when he adds a personal view or even a well placed joke.
I doubt Simon will ever read this comment, but keep up the good work and the progression of said channels. Your content has cost me many hours and educated me on such a wide range of subjects, thanks fact boy
Thank you for this. It reminds me of my career as an urban planner. People will insist on being oblivious to physical realities that do not fit with their plans.
Watching this while sitting on the toilet and creating the great stink of 2017 ;)
Make a video on Alan Turing please. His life and contributions.
There's a movie about him, you know
Don't watch that if you actually want facts about him tho, it's just a Hollywood portrayal. Like for example ignoring the fact that the idea for the computer was started in Poland and incredibly pretending the person who invented it with Turing didn't exist, I guess he wasn't interesting enough so it just fine to pretend they don't exist.
Rex Longfellow
Liking the change in the bg between videos. Its a nice change to look at video to video.
Nice video. Saw a bit about this on Extra History and couldn't help but hear the words "You know nothing, Jon Snow" in my head as this was playing.
hmmm... Sounds like a similar problem today that people choose to ignore or not believe despite scientific evidence...
Oh you mean the dump truck of evidence? Or that's probably wrong I could look into it but naaaaw
Container ship full of evidence.
Yeah Bob. Ass fucks like you who want us to give up civilization and live in caves. GFY
Meanwhile in the US, politicians are trying to convince the general public that we don't need the EPA...
*looks at pictures of Pittsburgh from the 1930s-1946* I haven't forgotten the "Smoky City," have _you?_
www.buzzfeed.com/kevintang/stunning-photos-of-pittsburghs-air-pollution-in-the-1940s?.mt7Loxdy4#.scP1l7obG
The EPA is corrupt and many of their regulations are senseless. Your logic is essentially "people mess up the environment really bad sometimes, let's give the organization that claims to try and regulate it more power!". No. Let's not repress people's freedom more.
@@XavionofThera
People really mess up the environment often. I'll admit the EPA is corrupt, but it's often corrupt towards the moneyed interests.
You apparently haven't lived downwind of chemical plants. There's a place in Louisiana called "cancer alley" because so many people get cancer from the plants. Poor people live downwind of the plants, so it doesn't get fixed.
In other news, it's now legal to dump fracking waste on agricultural land. Including radioactive fracking waste.
one of the best episodes so far. well done !
Really, really find your vids as interesting as they are informative! Please keep on keeping on!!
There's a great documentary about this as well, that goes into how Bazalgette was treated and laughed at during the project, and how he and John Snow lived just a block apart, but never actually met each other. Bazalgette himself didn't believe in the cholera carried by water theory - he thought it was the stench, and designed his system with the goal of carrying the stench away. Part of the "7 Wonders of the Industrial World" series
Jean Colley There is also a mini series about the sewage problem, look up "Thee Broad Street Pump" and subsequently, "The sanitation movement", both made by Extra History (a sub section of the Extra Credits channel). It goes into detail about the topic of Jon Sno and the sewage and disease problems.
Jean Colley I really enjoyed Seven wonders of the industrial world
What happens if you don't sign sign a contract with your name, but write something like, "I don't agree to these terms" on the signature line, and act as if you've signed it properly?
fireflocs lol I've been doing simaler things.i once wrote a sentence on a bank contract saying I would charge them for every call to me about the bill I owe after the first call.the lady couldn't believe it all the tools can't believe you would stick up for yourself against corps
I’ve recently become really interested in Joseph Bazalgette and the work he did as Chief Engineer of the London Metropolitan Board of Works. Thank for this short but informative video of London’s sewage problems particularly in the early part of the 19th century.
I really love your videos and keep learning a lot. Keep up the good work!
actually Kim Jong does not poop
He rather gets surgery everyday to remove waste product😂
* * he must be full of shit
* *
Wouldn't doubt that the N. Korean high leadership has a bathroom schedule. And that, like the president of USA, gets their poop tested for disease & subsequently cremated so nobody else can see what they eat/how healthy they are.
Im pretty sure there is more than seven seas, but sailors always said they sailed «the» seven seas. Why is that?
It´s the main seas that forming the ocean, they are seven.
I guess it´s just a lasy shortform among people to make it eaiser to speak, my five cents...
Local Canadian its the main seven seas not all seas in general
References to the "seven seas" date back at least to ancient Babylon. It doesn't refer to any particular seas, just the ocean in general. The number seven may be connected to the seven classical planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn).
it generally referred to the main seas and oceans a sailor in the 17th century would be familiar with and reasonably expect to traverse during his career, those being the Baltic, North, Mediterranean,, Carribean, as well as the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian Oceans (they exclude the seas like the Red and South China seas because they didn't have good enough maps of the areas to distinguish where the Indian and Pacific Oceans ended and the their seas began)
tbarry, the term "seven seas" is much older than the 17th century, and this is just another later justification for the term. A similar idea is that it refers to the five oceans (if the Arctic and Antarctic oceans are counted) but with the Pacific and Atlantic divided into the North and South, giving a total count of seven. There is no particular reason for the number seven and it does not refer to seven specific seas.
Came here because of the infographics show. Love it when my favorite yt channels link and reference each other
Nice as usual, 10 min general knowledge memory upload - keep it up guys and i will keep watching
I watched a documentary about this on Netflix called "Seven Wonders of the Industrial World"
The river Thames still smells awful.
Last year on a lovely day. I went on a boat ride down the Thames. And theres a weird smell at the river
Excellent. Quite excellent. Fascinating as well. Besides being informative, it demonstrates politicians are as loathsome in the 1850s as they are today.
love love love the videos! I watch everyday! thank you
Before I click on the video: "it better be fucking Simon"
To recreate the great stink, visit India.
hahahaha
LMFAO!!!
Brits turned a prosperous country into shit in the course of their 2 century rule. The Empire loved filth and took it everywhere it went.
@@thehindumuse Don't blame England for that. That happens in poor Country's. India will Eventually have all the mod cons but its going to take Century's. There are a lot of people there and they have only just begun to modernise.
@@franconnorton7087 You need to come and see for yourself. The land is fertile and prosperous which is why it has supported "too many people" for all of history. India's poverty on the other hand is only 2 centuries old. India isn't Africa, because that is what I feel you have in mind. Just yesterday Modi won another 5 year term with a thumping majority, the country's already taking giant strides. Wait and watch where it'll be in just another decade.
Very informative and short, thanks for sharing this video.
Great history and story. Very informative.
Basically the future of the planet if we keep using it as a global trashcan.
I blame it on the beans from the last episode
On the bright side, they could eat all the beans they wanted and fart all day, then blame it on the Thames. In all honestly, I bet the Thames completely overpowered even the worst fart in town, with the crippling reek of sewer. You'd never smell anything again in your life after living in that city. Gross!
This channel is incredible
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
3:27 - so, Jon Snow did know something after all.
Back when being knighted meant something. Now you just need to be a rich entertainment icon who donates to the right (or should I say, left) causes.
thanks, i needed a refresher for my upcoming test
Bearing in mind that this occurred in an age when most people still did not bath with regularity (and many not at all), if folks were complaining of the smell I reckon it must have been taking fresh paint off the walls.
Dr Jon Snow haha
Constantine Ivanoff Check out the Extra Credits series on this.
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
dont know if the following fact is true,i hope it is. i worked on civil engineering contracts, around 22 yrs ago,and was told bazalgettes great great grandson,was the guy who started endemol film productions,that produce big brother (the reality tv show). so while his great great grand father pumped shit away from our houses,his great great grandson,pumped the shit back in through our television screens
that thrive Market commercials/advertisement sounds really good I mean Super Markets are pretty expensive my dad is always having nervous breakdowns about grocery budgets sounds like a great plan
Great video!
Must be that farting from yesterday? #beans
Who likes before the video starts
Great video as always! Most informative video about a pile of crap I've ever seen
These are great
Especially this episode
Engineering saved the day once again!
What exactly did they do to clean up the river?
rollipolioli they stopped throwing shit in the river
they went on and invented the '' bulldozer '' in the process..
Fantastic video.
Same thing happened in Chicago about the same time. Lake Michigan was used to dump sewage, and also for drinking water.
Anyone else here because of the infographics show?
Oh my god, this is hilarious. Can you imagine smelling sun baked poo all day every day? They said that you could literally see the poo fog coming off the river. Just imagine how horrible public bathrooms smell, and times that by one hundred, and imagine smelling it every day. I bet you could taste it on your tongue if you smacked your lips a couple times, disgusting!
I'm gonna hit like before the vid. starts, because we love y'all!
Possibly the best ever Today I Found Out. Any observer of the human condition will enjoy the sarcasm/humor.
How about the river that caught on fire atleast 13 times?
The Cuyahoga and Lake Erie? Was and still is pretty cancerous
In Jake Paul's backyard?
John Snow was real?
He surprisingly he knew quite a bit of things
great explanation
Thanks Simon, good vid 👍
"Who noted *EAR MURDER AD PLAYS*"
Great video, but your hair is upside down.
Absolutely hilarious!! Thanks!!
Politicians did nothing about the problem until it affected the wealthy and themselves? Wow, I am so glad that we got over that issue, politicians today would never
Are we not talking about climate change? It sounds so similar.
Samir Shrestha Because climate change is not man made.
Reminds me of the modern day argument of climate change
anyone remember the tv show " wkrp in cincinnati " , where in response to a sanitation worker strike johnny fever basically said to dump your garbage at city hall and people did
You gave me the answer to a question I didn't know I had.
This video STINKS!
Chris Cardullo I wouldn't say it stunk. But they did talk a lot of crap.
Good video!
Got a gcse exam on Medicine through time. This includes the great stink of 1858, cholera, the public health system and many, many more. So thanks for the info on the great stink!