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Fab 4 Free 4 All - Talking with Giles Martin about The Beatles' 'Now and Then' and 'The Red Album'
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2024
- On November 7, 2023 the cast of fab 4 Free 4 All (Mitch Axelrod, Rob Leonard and Tony Traguardo) had the opportunity to talk with producer Giles martin about his work on the Beatles' single 'Now and Then' and his remix of '1962-1966', better known as 'The Red Album'. As the Beatles are now the band that's on everyone's lips... once again... we are delighted to be able to present the video of that conversation.
The cast wishes to thank Jennifer Ballantyne for allowing us this opportunity, and for her genuine enthusiasm towards our show. We also wish to thank our friends at Apple and Universal. And, of course, thank you to Giles Martin!
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Now And Then mix is very good. It preserves the Beatles feel carefully and it really sounds like "next Beatles song"
The bridge is the best part of that song. It was a mistake to remove it.
Not only did the Beatles have limitations at the time with their own recording equipment - But had to be seriously mindful of the limitations of the average listeners record player - many of which would fly the stylus up in the air or cause the speaker to hum if ever they dared to go full on with the final mix of guitars, bass and drums! It is amazing that the deeper you dig into their recordings with new technology, the more depth, innovation and artistry there is to find.
Love that you guys get Giles every “Now and Then”…well done guys!
Giles is still humble, despite all the hype. Such a nice & honest guy who is amazingly smart. GAZ (Melbourne/Australia)
Just like his dad
Great interview, really appreciate you asking the tough questions regarding the bridge! Probably the only outlet that would be able to get some clarity on that.
Thanks so much. We have a nice relationship with Giles so we tend to be able to ask the tougher questions without him hanging up on us. 😂
Great to hear Giles views.
Young peoples reaction to this song is fascinating. There’s nothing I’m aware of in todays music that is similar in style musically. It gives me hope that real music may make a return, although somehow I doubt it
Agree😂
Real music never went away, you just confuse nostalgia with quality.
@@kennethraymondmoore It's true that in the mainstream certainly, you don't hear this style of music very much anymore, so I see what @thejigantics2641 is saying. There is also a huge amount of nostalgia being pushed in these times which does interfere with peoples' perception of new/unfamiliar music.
Giles nailed it as usual
Thanks for this, guys. He clearly respects you all.
Giles is awesome. I love his remixes.
i dont like his remixes.
I don't want to lose you bridge is used as an interlude. The key has changed, but the chord progression is the same. The melody "I don't want to lose you" can be heard behind the slide guitar. Of course Paul and Giles should know this lol.
Its testimony to how well the original tracks were recorded that the depth can now be extracted for us to hear.
Now and Then also marks the first time in decades that anyone has actually given a shit about the #1 record.
I always listen to the 1 version of the songs because the 2015 mix is good (she loves you way better than 2023)
i was hoping a question about why no Free as bird, Real love in the red and bleu reissues😢
We only had very limited tome with him. Had we had more time, that would have come up.
@@Beatletoon In these circumstances you did a good job guys, congratulations!
Giles has never heard of "now and then" despite being involved with the bealtes releases for the past decade...
We all heard it in 09 when it came available.
The fact he's also questioning the tracklisting/inclusions on red album js also astonishing considering he literally mixed the fucking thing...
Good interview, i was surprised that he hardly looked at you guys while he was talking
He was actually looking down at his tablet to see us.
I bet he's never heard the "I don't want to lose you" bridge
Surprising answer
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The song is excellent and gets better and better with each listen. Most bands today record in different studios separately apart. Therefore any criticism is unwarranted.
It's the first and only Beatles single released in the 21st century
I've been fortunate to have enjoyed The Beatles since 1963-64, and I hate to burst anyone's swelling over excitement. Now & Then is an Anthology related session song that was finished a few decades later. It's decent,
it's The Beatles, but all this will wear off too. Paul, Ringo,Giles did the best they could, and Peter Jackson's video adds
a fitting finale! But please end the hype, and drama. Giles resuscitated the Red
& Blue remixes, hoping he and Peter Jackson can do the same to the outdated dvd Anthology videos. It needs some life Gents! In the meantime we wait for Rubber Soul box set maybe 2025?
Good interview chaps. I have one question that maybe I have missed? Did you ask Giles why they used the previous mixes of 2015 to the 2021 on 67-70 album? Instead of demixing the all the tracks, like they did on 1962-66 album? So looking forward to hearing the early stuff especially with the demixing technology on 1962-1966 album.
No we didn’t get a chance to ask him a bunch of questions that we had written down. We only were allotted 10 minutes which we stretched to 15 because we have a nice relationship with Giles. If we had more time….
No worries. I appreciate your response.@@Beatletoon
They are just fine. All on the 1 album on streaming. They should have left 2015 She Loves You also, way clearer vocal sound. The only huge dissapointment.
Thank for this great interview! What a golden opportunity! Cuts off quickly after Rob’s statement? Was that intentional?
Anyway, great job as always! PS I sent you guys an email yesterday. I hope that you receive it!
I want the action figure of him and his dad that’s coming out 😀😀❤️❤️
Now that the technology exists to separate & enhance vocals, how about remixing "Free As A Bird" & "Real Love". 👍
The less it sounds like The BeatELOs, the better.
The one I’m interested in is I Am The Walrus. I read in maybe Geoff emmericks book that the music was bounced to accommodate the orchestrations so it would never be able to be really remixed from the masters. If I’m remembering that correctly then it would be great to hear it with the AI being able to separate the tracks for the proper Giles treatment.
I'm so sorry to dissapointing you but, I didn't like the new mix of I am the walrus, it sounds... a little bit messy. The drums does not soubd fantastic like they should be because THEY ARE FANTASTIC. :(
It is a mess. I asked him about it but the question got edited out due to some confusion on everyone’s part
Superb interview. Well done, guys
Thanks very much. We appreciate it greatly.
WOW....F4FREE4ALL GOT THE GOODS 😮
Not according to my wife. 😂
I am surprised you didn't ask about the next project....is it Rubber Soul and is it a full year away?
That was definitely on our agenda, believe me. Unfortunately we were given 10 minutes from the label (we were are ALWAYS grateful for) which Giles extended another 5 due to our ongoing relationship. Had we been given more tome, that was my next question. 😊
is there any more to this interview? it seemed to cut out at the end.
I would love to find out why they only had one track from Beatles for Sale on the red album.
Agreed. No Reply and I'm A Loser in particular are big omissions for me. They seem to have tried too hard to represent George at the expense of more accomplished work.
Do we know if any of the electric guitar is George? I know the solo isn’t, but I was curious about the rest since they show him on an electric briefly in the video.
The little guitar flourishes starting with the second verse are George.
@@BeatletoonWhat’s the source on that? Not because I doubt you, but because I’d love to read/listen to whatever you saw. Thanks.
@@JohnnyWoodard i will try to find it again for you
@@Beatletoon Thanks!
where's/when's Rubber Soul?
That was on our agenda to ask but we were given 10 minutes which was stretched to 15. But I would definitely expect it late next year.
@@Beatletoon thanx mitch…
Paul was probably doing other things in LA, like working on his solo album (produced by Andrew Watt, an LA guy), which is why the strings were done at Capitol. Simple as that!
I like the AI mix of grow old with me.
Beside the hard panning, a lot of the original stereo had missing/hard to hear sound effects especially on Sgt.Pepper. There was also some bad edits.
Poor Giles, looking down at his desk, all the while the host are babbling on ....what the heck?!? I want to hear from Giles, you fellas already did your hour long blah blah on the program before. Wish Giles could of been on for more than 14 minutes. Hoping 2024 projects will be explained, as well , looks now 2025 for the Rubber Soul box set?!
He was looking down at his tablet so he could see us. We only were given 10 minutes with him which he extended due to our ongoing relationship. He was obviously tired after constant promotional interviews and burying his Mom last week. So we had to coax him a bit. Sorry if we blah blah blahed a bit too much. It’s all good though.
@Beatletoon thanks for explaining really appreciated, always enjoy the shows! Say what is the deal with secrecy about what's coming out or what they're working on in regards to 2024 Beatle releases, and when do you feel we will get The Rubber Soul Box set? My guess is that perhaps Hard Daus Night and Beatles for. Sale might be coming in 2024?
@@gerardjoseph17 it’s only my pure speculation but I think we will see a Rubber Soul box late next year. We know Mind Fames will be out before Summer since Sean announced it. And I have a feeling that we are in for more surprises. I guess we will see.
I'd much rather they deliver on Deluxe versions of the original 13 albums than bothering with Greatest Hits compilations, and as an exercise in gathering up all the singles over two sets they muffed up by not including "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love." With the addition of the last Beatles single, the title "1967-1970" no longer makes any sense, and with everything going 5.1, what good are the 2009 remasters now...?
Tony from F4F4A here...
Thanks for writing!
Well... we will surely see deluxe version of the remaining catalog material. That's been more than hinted at by all parties in the Beatles organization. And the 2009 remasters will STILL be the "go-to" source for the "original mixes"; the ones that we grew up on. Many of us, myself included, have no real use for 5.1 at this point, since I have no space to set it up properly. While I'm not a big fan of "greatest hits" packages for many artists, but the 1962-1966 and 1967-1970 albums were the "gateway drugs" for many nascent Beatles fans in the early 70s. They hold a special place in many collectors' hearts. And "1" did the same for the next generation. I can't see them reissuing "20 Greatest Hits" any time soon, LOL. There is definitely a reason why 'FAAB' and 'Real Love' were not included. IMHO, the goal was to add more G.H,. tunes to each package, and to have taken up ten minutes of LP time with those two tunes on the new 'Blue' album would have been somewhat incongruous... and I'm not disagreeing that having 'Now and Then' wrap that album is a bit strange!
Giles seems a little distracted, anyway it was a great inverview, really important questions being asked.
He was probably exhausted. He buried his Mom last Thursday and has been doing nonstop interviews and promotion for these releases. He is most likely totally spent. So we appreciate any time he could spare us. Thanks for the kind words.
G R E A T L E G E N D F O R E V E R
Love the new mixes, but Giles didn’t focus on the high end as much like the 2015 1 remix.
Hold on, Red Rose Speedway remix????
To have a interview with a Gentleman such as Giles is a coupe ! Some of the comments about the song ALL these 25 year old BEATLES experts and "INSIDERS " and WHAT PAUL thought are a dime a dozen and absolutely a JOKE and RIDICULOUS
GET A REAL LIFE ! Theres 2 ppl left that KNOW how to put a song together in A studio ! There might be 30 takes ! They keep the best pieces mix it then IF they all agree RELEASE IT !
I’m not sure why there’s negative talk regarding this song from guys I respect who have podcasts on CZcams who review Beatle albums. This is not about technicality or sales anymore than it was when the Beatles first came out. It was a beautiful rendition of closing the chapter on the most gifted men to ever come to this earth.
Of course it was Paul’s baby!! John wrote it mainly to Paul. Just because he wrote it😮😮 after the Beatles break up does not make it a non-Beatles song.
Most of the solo work, George Paul, and John’s music sold based on the fact that they were all Beatles. Let’s face it as solo artists other than Paul weren’t that great. But when you hear “woman“ by John, very Beatles. John always loved “here there, and everywhere“ and I believe “woman“ was John’s rendition of the same idea. George did the same thing with “when we was fab” .
It don’t come easy by Ringo was definitely Beatles…flavor. Paul probably wrote Beatlesque music after the break up. I rejoice in the effect it is doing to young and old alike.
Of course now, and then was just a demo But give Paul credit for bringing the Beatles back to coming generations. By the way, I was one of those who wept through the whole video. Not because of the lyrical content, but the wonderful gift that was the Beatles. And today I am a better songwriter because of them.
I'm a major Beatles fan but please, enough about this already!!
Axelrod. The Joe Pesci of Beatles podcast…
Funny story about your Joe Pesci comment. If we ever meet for a beer, I will tell you about it. 😂
Giles looks exhausted. Like he's been up for 24thrs before this interview
He had just buried hi Mom a few days earlier and has been doing nonstop promotion for all the releases so he was probably physically and mentally exhausted.
Reissues as remixes for profit, nothing more.
Your choice.
No they're being remixed because they need remixing ( George Martins stereo mixes are cack handed)so they can sound better for future generations. Of course nobody is forcing you to buy them or taking away your record collection.
the drums on daytripper is fine, I love it loud.
it's very disappointing to hear Giles saying he never heard any Beatles cover of the song. Even Paul got to listen an AI version of Yesterday sung by John just out curiosity.
There is funny meme going round saying "I like this (the Beatles version), but i prefer this one (Iamaphoney's version)
We thought that a bit odd as well because there have been countless fan made versions for the past 15 years.
Giles doesnt sit around all day watching youtube.Just like im sure Paul and Ringo dont sit around reading Beatles books so they can argue with people about their own lives and what happened 50 or 60 years ago
As I suspected. Paul cut the bridge and Gile's never even heard it. I think Paul wanted to create and steer the narrative with this song. He didn't expect people to find out the truth...
I guess we are the Clark Kents of music reporting. 😂😂😂
It’s better without it.
What a moronic idea about Paul. Sorry you are so unaware of the gift Paul just gave us.
not enough bass on i saw her standing there. and the drums at the start of she loves you sound very weak and light, they should sound deeper and heavier like the original.
The bridge does fit. Paul's ego?
Not only does it fit but it completes the song and elevates it to a whole other level. What it doesn't fit is the Beatles narrative and the story they are trying to sell about the song being intended "for Paul" by John.
@@paulknight9998do you’re saying the story about John and Paul agreeing to write a song for Ringo’s next album and John putting together a tape of unfinished songs and writing “for Paul” on the tape- is not true?
The bridge lyrics weren’t finished. John just mumbles the last line. Why would they include it?
What tape? The tape containing the note and the song "Now And Then" was compiled and provided by Yoko Ono to the surviving Beatles for the Anthology project. The tape was obviously intended for Paul McCartney by Yoko Ono. @@joegordon2915
Because it's the best part of the song.@@joegordon2915
Giles, dear, the RED COLLECTION till "Day Tripper" is a truly mess 🧐😡. Stereo panning is generally compressed and Little versus the "ONE" versions remastered in 2015. "She loves you" sounds mono as from a lacquer from the '78rpm Caruso era..."A hard day's night" has bongoes forwarded sounding like a road maintenance jackhammer to make that "night of a hard day" even more "hard"..."I want to hold your hand" sounds as an old 45 RPM, "Can't buy me love" has Lost the ADR tape effect, "Help!' has john's voice lowered and buried, "eight days a week" has a crispy, compressed and muffled sound, "Nowhere Man" Is far, far Better in "Yellow submarine" album. NO MAN, RED COLLECTION IS A DISASTER
If you guys talk to Giles again, ask him what the hell happened to the end of I Am The Walrus. It's completely different. WTF????
I actually did but the question was edited out because there was a lot of confusion. I agree. It is a very different listening experience. I am not a fan of it. Love everything else though.
It’s a remix for the love of god! It’s SUPPOSED TO BE DIFFERENT!
I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but my view of the Zoomer generation and their crying antics is far more cynical.
Sure, some of them may enjoy "Now and Then" and genuinely feel moved by it, but I think it's also important to remember that
these are the same kids who will "cry for views". If a song (or anything else) is trending at the moment, and a popular "content creator"
is seen crying in their video, hey presto, you suddenly have hundreds of similar crying videos, because that's now considered the "appropriate"
way to react to hearing this song.
When David Bowie died, there were thousands and thousands of young people all around the world, crying and lighting candles for their dead hero.
How many of them even knew who he was a week prior to his death? How many of them still listen to him today?
The answer is: not many. Being SEEN mourning the loss of David Bowie was the trendy thing to do THAT week, and that's what these little monsters
value the most. They don't care about anything. Not really. All they want is to raise their own stupid social media profile.
How long will they listen to "Now and Then"? Well, when's the next trendy thing coming around? Tomorrow?
Cynical? Maybe, but I can’t say I disagree.
Absolutely correct ❤
I'm a major Beatles fan but please, enough about this already!!
We recorded this interview almost 2 weeks ago when the song had just been released a few days earlier. You found it a bit late in the game but it is STILL a relevant conversation because we did touch on the red album was which is only a week old.