What If We Got Toriyama's Original Android Saga?

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  • čas přidán 16. 03. 2024
  • In the wake of Akira Toriyama's passing, I want to take a look at what might have been had Toriyama been able to follow his original plan for the Android Saga.
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Komentáře • 318

  • @Chriso22
    @Chriso22  +549

    Honestly I'm glad the editor's intervened because when they pushed toriyama to do better he always delivered i love the other androids and cell being one of the top greatest villains some even considering him the best but this video is still a amazing idea and concept of what if this was the android saga

  • @joecota2644

    I like the idea that while Gero technically becomes more and more artificial yet acts/feels more human as he gets closer to his revenge/ Self Actualization , and falls victim to his pride

  • @awesomereviews1561

    Torishima ( Toriyama’s editor) improved Dragon Ball by a large margin. He left after the Cell saga wrapped. And that’s why the Buu Saga is a mess.

  • @gamewithadam7235

    Now android 16 makes a lot more sense when you consider what the original story was meant to be.

  • @SilverSaiyanAce

    This seems like a great what if idea to pay tribute to Toriyama

  • @IcefireC67

    I feel like without 17 and 18 and the editor interference, toriyama definitely would've written himself into a corner here. Cuz theres no way 19 and 20 wouldve carried this whole arch by themselves

  • @Xavier-the-voodoo-king

    Always did wonder what if 19 and gero were the main villains of that arc, I can tell this is gonna be great.

  • @nearthe2nd

    I agree with you that Android 20 would likely absorb Android 19. But I think Toriyama would call that form Super Android 20 or Super Gero. I personally believe that considering Toriyama designed Android 13, and Dr. Gero looks like Android 13, and I'm a supporter of the theory that Android 13's design is based off a younger Dr. Gero, or perhaps another son of Dr. Gero. I think Super Android 13 is the original final form design for Dr. Gero in an unchanged Android saga. Android 20 could even absorb enough energy to become younger (basically a form change to the younger Android 13) since that's not the first or last time Toriyama used the trope of the main villain regaining their youth, King Piccolo & Moro for example.

  • @treehugger3615

    I can believe this interpretation. Because to me, Cell kinda came out of nowhere. He has no real backstory, other than the fact he was a creation of Dr.Gero, and absolutely no connection to Future Trunks world.

  • @lexzeyfercronus

    While its understandable why the editor told toriyama to make all the changes,i still cant get over the fact that android 20 's (Gero) first appearance involved him choking a driver so hard he squished his throat and took his head off (manga), as much as i enjoy all other androids, they just never topped that amount of brutality,19 and 20 were the intended horrific abominations Trunks told Goku about,another fun fact is that he specifically told Goku that it was going to be android 19 and 20 the ones that would appear and kill them all,atleast on the manga,only to contradict himself later on after the editor got involved and toriyama had to change everything for 17 and 18 to be

  • @quanghuyvu2649

    As one person had said this

  • @OrientalBales

    If you take a look at the cast closely during the OG arc, you could see hints that maybe toriyama was building up history repating itself with the z warriors dying again at the hands of the androids meaning trunks didn't change anything.

  • @Garrulous64

    This was a really nice tribute. I only learned about all the changes to the Cell saga recently so it's neat to see a version that sticks more to what may have been originally intended!

  • @demianoff

    The issue is that gero is the red ribbon, goku's enemy. With cell, we have the "son" of the red ribbon taking on the son of goku

  • @avklock

    This is interesting, but I'm happy that it went the direction it did. I remember being young and the flurry of new baddies - after dealing with the same singular villian (Frieza) for so long - was so refreshing and exciting.

  • @akroblodon9449

    I realy liked this. I allways thought that Gero was such an underrated villian.

  • @felman87
    @felman87  +14

    I love the idea that these androids can learn their moves. Kind of like combining Cell's gimmick with Batman Arkham City's fight with Freeze.

  • @adamdean5261

    The fact that you used the androids absorbing people like cell ...i wounder is the goat kept that concept from his own original premises

  • @anchorsaway9500

    Part of me wondered what that vision would have looked like. Up until now the closest glimpse to that timeline was MasackoX what if the Ginyu force turned good cause that stunt Gero pulled (no spoilers beyond that) but even that was barely a glimpse into that timeline. So thanks for making this what if. I’m sure Akira Toriyama would be proud of you for attempting this

  • @lazerbreaker4758

    He will be called super gero like how 13 absorb both 14 and 15 he is just called super 13 so gero will be called super gero