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It can't be repeated enough that in Europe, you usually don't get "pulled over". You just get a fine in the postbox.
This happens on some US highways.
And since it is automated cameras that do the checking 90+% of the time, once you exceed the speed limit by more than what is considered the margin of error, you automatically get a ticket. I’ve gotten tickets for exceeding the speed limit by 1 km/h after a 3 km/h error margin was subtracted.
Since not only heavy speeders get tickets, there often is a wide bracket of fines you can get for speeding. In Switzerland, on freeways the schedule is: 1-5 km/h > CHF 20, 6-10 km/h > CHF 60, 11-15 km/h > CHF 120, 16-20 km/h > CHF 180, 21-25 km/h > CHF 260.
Same for roadtaxes or payment for certain roads for most times but in some place you still pay for go over a bridge or så direct on the spot. But about about speedway you use get them with mail or digitalmail.
depends actually. Most of the time here in Germany you do get a fine in the postbox. Sometimes though the police measure the speeds and a few hundred meters later, another police-crew is there and pulls the speeders out. Fines them right on the spot (with option to pay later obviously).
Not in all Europe. Especially in Eastern Europe you do get pulled over quite frequently.
Range Rover is British. And we use MPH in the UK, as are all distances in miles.
Americans think everything is American or invented there...
Was, now Indian Tata Group
@arnodobler1096 does that mean if the UK buys the TAJ Mahal it will no longer be Indian??
@@jpw6893 At least the entrance fees, yes
@@jpw6893we would turn it into a pub
All cars have speed control. It's called a driver.
He was talking about cruise control.
@@metallboy25Is that when you have a Tom Cruise look-alike driving the car?
@@DeepThought9999 Yes. Yes it is.
You don't usually get pulled over in the UK, you just get sent a ticket to pay off
Interesting to note is, in the USA there is no expectation of privacy in public. People can legally film other people in public spaces. But then somehow, recording a license plate is amoral? It's not even released on the internet, it's just recorded.
And then in Europe, there is an expectation of privacy in public. Especially in the German sphere of influence. And yet here, speed cameras are common. Very interesting to note.
The controversy around speed cameras in the US is not about privacy so much as it is about the non-discriminatory application of the law. The US has many laws on both State and Federal level that prevent police procedures that target communities or geographic areas in a blanket way. This is because these procedures can have the appearance, or even intent, of enforcing a law on one socio economic, cultural or racial group while not enforcing it on other groups. This would then be an unequal application of the law and thus controversial if not outright illegal.
We see this critism pop up here in Australia with the distribution of random breath test traffic stops and drug dogs at train stations, which some argue are deployed in such a way as to target poorer communities while those in wealthier suburbs driving after one too many beers or keeping a bag of coke in their wallet when they catch the train will not be caught up in these blanket approach police procedures.
These criticisms don't go far in Australia though as we do not have the extensive history of civil rights protections codified into law that the US has, and I assume neither does Europe.
Speed cameras don't violate your privacy. They enforce the law. You're the one violating public order. Or do you think it should be illegal for police to arrest you for murder just because their activity might come as an inconvenience to you as well?
@@goaway9977 But wouldn't that make cameras perfect for the USA? Speed cameras are everywhere and a camera doesn't care if the driver is black or white, rich or poor. If you're too fast you get fined.
@@Thorium_Th Yes cameras in and of themselves hold no bias. In fact there was an interesting case in the early 2000s on the New Jersey Turnpike. Police were accused of racial bias in their issuance of speeding tickets on the Turnpike due to the disparity between black and white drivers who were issued fines. So the State decided to install speed cameras to eliminate the human element in giving tickets. The result was that an even higher proportion of black drivers recieved speeding tickets. So yes, within an given area speed cameras can eliminate real profiling or even the appearance of profiling when none in fact exists. An if you extrapolated that out, and put a speed camera on every street, you would indeed eliminate unequal application of the law by making everyone equally at risk of getting a speeding ticket.
But this hypothetical of placing a speeding camera on every street is unobtainable. To do so would require the consent of every country and their elected representatives. Unless a road is known for its high rate of accidents and fatalities, people generally don't want speed cameras on the roads they use, and certainly not on the street they live. As stated in this video, speed cameras add to the stress of driving for people who have no intention of breaking the law. And such they are politically unpopular.
This political unpopularity creates a socioeconomic disparity in the distribution of speed cameras in States that do allow them or have done in the past. In wealthy areas where residents are more politically engaged and thus representatives are more responsive to the wishes of their constituents, speed cameras don't go up. Meanwhile in poorer areas where people are less politically engaged municipal governments are able to erect speed cameras for revenue gaining without fear of political backlash. And so the socioeconomic disparity crops up, without any explicit intent from any institution to create such a disparity. This is why many States have outright banned speed cameras while many others just avoid them entirely.
@@goaway9977 Interesting but also weird that people would vote against cameras. I was very happy when the speed limit in my street got reduced to 30 km/h (50 km/h before) and a speed camera got installed. It's much quieter now because people don't dare to speed anymore.
Oh my Lordi, the Murica is strong with you on this video 😂 ❤
"They make cars without cruise control!?" 😂
4:39 How do you think phone calls and internet requests are sent back to you? your phone constantly registers in to cell towers with unique SIM indentification to let the system know under which radio tower's umbrella it is. So calls and requests can be propagated back to it.
Governments usually have access to this information with a warrant, but not to the encrypted data/call you are sending/receiving
I've been driving for 23 years in Finland, 3 of which where I drove as a big part of my job. Speed cameras have been in use here since the early 90s as the main speed control system. I have never received a single speeding ticket or never been pulled over by the police for any reason. I have also never been in a traffic accident
Yeah, I think the camera system works just fine
We use a mix of imperial and metric in the UK so miles an hour is correct
In Australia we call them point to point speed cameras, we also have overhead cameras that face downward to catch drivers either talking on their cell phone, holding or having your phone on your lap. They also catch drivers and passengers not wearing seatbelts!
That's why There are nearly 43,000 fatal crashes a year in the U.S. plus you don't have compulsory annual safety checks for vehicle to make sure they are roadworthy and why are youse in such hurry relax and enjoy the drive. Peace out.
But regulation is communism, brother! /s
@@michael_177it's not communism in the US it's population control.
There are compulsory annual vehicle checks, but they are state mandated. Not every state requires it. Mine does. If the car isn’t maintained your insurer can drop you.
Omg do they not have M.O.T. 's in the States ?? that's crazy
@@sopdox in Australia I think NSW is the only state that mandates vehicle inspection, of that are a certain age. Police in other states can do roadside inspection of suspect vehicles, most of the revived vehicles you see on American CZcams channels couldn't be registered in Australia.
In Europe cars without any cruise control definitely exist, and they're pretty much always the cheapest segment of cars available.
For the Suzuki Swift, both cruise control and adaptive cruise control are options that can be added to the car, but the guy in the video didn't.
The vast majority of European cars do have cruise control.
It's become more common in the last decade or so.
I don't know a single person who has it.
@@CorinneDunbar-ls3ej Huh?! Where on Earth do you live?
@@bencodykirk It's prob an age thing. I'm 75 and not at all well off. All my friends (well, those who haven't snuffed it!) drive small, older cars with stick shift. Okay, I don't know many people now, but no-one I know has cruise control.
I only know a couple of people who have cruise control.
Strange, I know, but we actually care about road deaths. 🤷♀️
The UK uses mph as the distances are measured in miles. This is because it is too expensive to change all the road signs to go fully metric. We use miles per gallon when comparing car performances despite the fuel being delivered in litres.
MPG is one of my biggest bugbears about UK imperial measurements - sure, I suppose it's useful when comparing one car to another, but when looking at a vehicle in isolation when fuel is sold in litres, it remains - at least to me - one of the most stupid and baffling vestiges of the imperial system.
yeah, leave it to the UK to mix everything up and make it even more complicated.
@@AlexGys9 It's not really that complicated for those of us living with it
@@timothyallan111 Don't forget UK Imperial gallons are not the same as the smaller US gallons.
It's not too expensive, it's that we're British and we invented the Imperial Measure system ,so we'll keep using it for a while longer till the younger generations, who only get taught metric, get into power. A gradual change of signage could have been going on for years but hasn't.
The main reason is to prevent people slowing down for a speed camera and the speeding up again after. Average speed camera can stretch long distances along a road. We also have speed camera all over the country, less common are junction cameras to capture jumping a red light. Additionally a number of limited random speed cameras around the country are linked to the ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) database which is the national police computer. This means if a vehicle that may be stolen, flagged as wanted for various reasons, drugs etc, insurance and can alert the police. These have also been used to track wanted vehicles across the country in serious crimes and murders and helped to convict killers. Police Traffic vehicles have this system inside their cars and a camera on the outside to so if you drive behind, past or in front of the car and are wanted, you cars docs are illegal, you have no insurance they are alerted in the vehicle almost instantly and you will get stopped. We’re all very hi tech here in the UK.
Incidentally, in another video I learnt you don’t need to get your vehicle tested every year to ensure it’s safe to drive. A quick look at the road safety stats shows the USA road deaths per 100,000 is more than 400% higher than that in the UK. That’s what car safety, and speed cameras do along with all the other measures we have.
Yes - and the population density on roads in the UK is probably higher than the US. The licensing system in Europe is way more advanced and realistic and produces much more competent and safer drivers than in the US. The facts and figures don't lie.
In the Netherlands we start getting fines from 4km/h over the speed limit (that's 2.4mph) or 4% over the speed limit, whichever is higher.
so on a 80km/h road, we get fines starting at 84km/h. On a 130km/h road we get fines starting at (130 * 1.04 = 135.2 =) 136km/h.
Where is that 100 kilometer road.😮
@@jannekelind1220 You mean our highways? 100km/h until 7pm, but roads that were 130km/h before still allow 130km/h after 7pm.
Same here in Austria! They used to be more lenient but recently started to be more strict because the cars speedos are now more correct than they used to be.
I was distracted by my kids 2 months ago and got a fine for 45€ for driving 74 km/h instead of 70 km/h. First one in a loooong time.
The other aspect we have in the UK is that of variable speed limits on our motorways. It allows the authorities to control the flow of traffic around roadworks or accidents. These are also linked to speed cameras so they automatically reset to the variable limit as requiered
Getting someone else to take the blame, if caught for a traffic offence, is a serious crime. It is perverting the course of justice and can get you 12 months in jail.
Where i am from, u only get a fine but no record, as it can't be proven that it was you behind the wheel.
Ryan in the UK we use miles. Miles per hour, miles to the gallon your car achieves (petrol) tho it is sold in litres. Beer in pubs is sold in pints, milk in the supermarket is sold in litres, we weigh ourselves in stones & pounds (one stone = 14 pounds) and if anyone asked me how tall I was in cms I wouldn't have a bloody clue ! LOL...get your head around that one ;-)
And out UK pints are 4oz larger than the US pints.
In other words the UK is stuck in measurement hell.
To make it more confusing, milk in supermarkets is sold in pints or litres, often on the same shelf.
Australia has speed cameras everywhere too. It helps a lot to catch the idiots who play dodgem cars! Also, we have marked lines across the road that measure your speed between two points. Over the speed limit for a certain distance on any road will get you a speeding ticket, not counting overtaking or avoiding obstacles on the road.
He used miles per hour because we use miles per hour in the uk
If you own a cell phone they know your location Ryan.
Correction, if you have a cell phone with you they know its location.
@@stephenlee5929 That's irrelevant to most people as they would have a panic attack if they didn't have their phone in arms reach 😂
Here in Czechia we have these usually in villages or small towns where speeding is an issue, you have a camera when entering and exiting the town, people tend to slow down at the camera then speed across the town. With these average speed cameras they're then so surprised when they get a ticket since they cannot grasp how does the camera know how fast he went outside of the camera view. One way to cheat such a camera would be if you are gonna stop in that town.
Another way to "cheat" the camera - don't go over the speed limit.
Here in the UK we use metric by law for purposes of trade and standardisation with the rest of the world, but Imperial by tradition. So we use a mix of both - Just to confuse you!😁
When we changed to metric it wasn't necessary to change road signs for trade so they stayed in imperial which also saved a huge amount of money. As time has gone on many signs now show both. It's the same when measuring. If you're buying stuff it's in metric but if someone asks my height or weight I use Imperial because that's traditional here.
Tradition, the anithesis of progress.
When you see someone hitting the brakes to slow down right in front of an average speed camera you have to wonder what their problem is with the word 'average'.
He is doing a time trial and needs to hit the camera at the right moment?
The UK uses miles as the measurement and not kilometers.
Getting pulled over in Britain is a rarity in Britain nowadays,you just get a demand a couple of weeks later in the post (mail)
And as for writing a ticket,that seems archaic now.
Yeah, the police are too busy 'policing' social media to be out on the streets, enforcing the laws of the nation.
Always amuses me to see Americans utterly shocked,and in some cases,disgusted when they see other countries doings different to what THEY do,as if we needed their permission. 😁
The planet is quite a big place mate,not just the USA.
325 million Americans and 7675 millions that are not.
Always amazes me to see so many people gleefully bragging about how enslaved they are.
So MANY brainwashed slaves
@@stevebeever2442 JUst look at the USA.
@@wessexdruid7598 what about them. Yes they are completely brainwashed slaves too
Lol. It reminds me how amused i am to see Europeans utterly shocked and in some cases disgusted when they see other countries (like USA) doing things different to what They do. As if they needed the permission from Europe.
Note: i am one of those European that is normally very critical of many US "ways of doing things", so i do usually note those things. Just see the comment section of most/any "american react" video in youtube. Or more simply, in the case of your comment for example? 😎
There are over 2 million car accidents a year in the US according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Roughly 42,915 people died in a fatal car crash in the US in 2021. 1,608 people were killed in the UK in 2021. Even accounting for larger populations it shows that the UK takes it road safety measures more seriously. In the land of the free I suppose many believe they should do what the want. People may, in the UK complain about seat belts, air bags, speed cameras etc but if the laws save thousands of lives each year is that not a fair trade off. At least if you get pulled over by a Cop in the UK you are unlikely to get shot!
I could be wrong but I think he probably used miles because that is actually what is used in the UK!
« Speed = Time / Distance » … with the famous speed units hpm or h/km of course !
There are a surprising number of features you would think are standard that aren't. When my grandmother had to give up driving I got her car. Not only was there no cruise control, it did not have intermittent wipers. I had no idea that was a "feature."
It funny what is taken for granted these days. My first car had wind-up windows, no aircon, no cruise control, a tape deck and it was beige with a brown interior. It said "Datsun" on it rather than "Nissan", too. I can't remember if it had intermittant wipers or not, come to think of it.
@@bencodykirk My first car had an 8-track player.
Australia is very similar to England with point to point cameras and depending on the state or territory it's 3 to 5 kmh or 2 to 4 mph over the limit gets you a fine. Like England the fine is automatically posted to you usually takes a couple of weeks, plus you get points added to your licence the faster you go the more points get added. Get to 12 points goodbye licence.
Australia is very similar to Britain or the UK. England is just one of the 4 countries here and the traffic laws are the same all over.
We use a combination of imperial and metric units. For distance it’s miles, all road signs feature miles. We use imperial for measuring ourselves ie weight is stones and pounds. We drink pints in pubs. But for most other things metric is used.
That's British pints of course - bigger than American pints!
In France, I checked, and we have 2578 speed cameras (+ 75 in the overseas territories), including 80 average speed cameras, all in Metropolitan France.
Their tolerance is either 5 km/h (3.1 mph) for speed limits up to 100 km/h (62 mph) or 5% for speed limits from 100 to 130 km/h (81 mph).
P.S. The default speed limits are 50 km/h (31 mph) (sometimes 30 km/h or 19 mph) in cities, 80 km/h (50 mph) on 1 lane per direction country roads, 110 km/h (68 mph) on 2 lanes per direction, separated directions, controlled access, automobile only, roads and 130 km/h (81 mph) on motorways.
a lot of older cars don't have cruise control. my old car didn't have it, only my "newer" car has a basic version, which you have to control manually. actual newer cars all have automatic cruise control with automatic distance adaption and stuff
That s right! I have an older car without cruise control and i love it because I am FULLY driving it
I have driven for over 40 years in the UK and have NEVER owned a car with cruise control. I don't even know what it looks like.
We use MPH and MILES on our roads in the UK.
I’d never got a ticket in my entire life. Had some US friends over and took them to a footy game in Sydney.. was pulled over for indicating too late changing lanes (this was just an excuse to pull me over).. they breathalysed and drug tested me.. all clear.. let me go with a “warning”. 10 minutes later I went through an underground tunnel and got clocked doing 67 in a 60 zone.. received a $350 fine and 2 points off my license. The next day I dropped my son off at school - 1/4 of my car was in the bus zone.. $300 and 2 points. A month later my son gets his license and first trip out he is stuck behind a double decker bus and can’t see the red light- camera catches him 3 seconds over the line.. 2 points and $450 (I copped the points for him)… things can go down hill fast 😂 cameras everywhere!!
I'm from the Netherlands, a country with one of the highest frequencies of speed cameras. I'm very used to watching out for known camera checks and average speed checks. There's even an app that warns you about cameras and shows your actual speed. It's a bit of a pain.
It's not a pain... if you just stick to the speed limit.
@@bencodykirk right, because it's safer to overtake very slowly rather than speed up a bit, isn't it? Smartass
@@GuitarOwnsDrums Well, it's illegal to exceed the speed limit to overtake so just don't overtake.
@@GuitarOwnsDrums Here we learn that you need to be 20km/h faster for a safe overtake. So if you are only allowed 3km/h faster than the other car you shouldn't overtake at all. And with average speed cameras a short burst will not have much influence.
You might get away with going 10kmh over on the speedo in Norway (6mph) due to speedometer error and some slack on the cameras. But once you start getting tickets... expensive!
Technically the lowest ticket for +1-5 kmh or 1-3mph is 1100 NOK og just over 100 USD. Being actually measured at this speed in a camera will give you a ticket in the mail. For manual checks its rare they bother with this one.
Doing +6-10kmh (~4-6.5mph) is 3000 NOK or ~280 USD. Doing +11-15kmh (~6.5-9.3mph) in a 60(~37mph) zone or lower would cost you 5400 NOK or about 500 USD.
The highest ticket before loosing the license is 15100 NOK or about 1400 USD. This can only happen on roads with a limit of 90kmh (~56mph) or more and you have to be going 36-40 over the limit, that's roughly 22-25mph over the limit.
You also get 2-3 points if you speed about +15 or higher as well. 8 points in 3 years = loss of license for 6 months.
UK HAVE MILES. !!!!!!!
5:02 American? Just for a tiny bit of time. Range Rover is a model of Land Rover which was British, since ’48, then sold to German BMW in ‘94, then sold to Ford (US) in 2000, which sold it to Tata (Indian) in 2008.
I just checked the database for Norway and apparently we have 71 average speed zones total. Counting dual tube tunnels as two zones.
There are no speed cameras on motorways or expressways ("motorroads").
An avarage de peed test is, you check how much time a car needed to go from point a to point b. Using this you calculate how fast it went. If ot was to fast , the driver gets a fine. So you avoid fining a driver who inadvertently was speeding a given time as long as he slows down. And it aslo avoid to have drivers hit the breaks where they know the is a speed camera
In the UK, average speed cameras are only one form of camera used against motorists. You have average speed cameras, fixed speed cameras, mobile camera vans and police cars that can also monitor your speed.
As for cruise control on cars, I have it on mine but never use it purely because UK roads are so busy it makes the cruise control function useless because even on motorways your always changing gears, braking, accelerating. It's very rare a UK road is so clear of other traffic and is straight and wide enough that you can get up speed and stay at that speed. There's so many other cars on UK roads and the roads are so twisting and winding, especially in the rural part of Lincolnshire I live in that you can't go more than twenty yards before there's an N bend or a bend so sharp that if you don't slow from 60mph to 20mph then you can end up in a farmer's field ploughing the land.
Often cruise control is most useful when trolling through a town with a wide road and little traffic and setting it to 30 (or maybe 33) means you can keep an eye on the road and not your speedo.
The reason it over-reports is that so if you were to change to different tyres, it won't ever underreport. if they're thicker than your older tyres, you will have an increased total diameter of your wheel, and thus have increased the distance traveled per wheel rotation. This is why changing to winter tyres can lower your reported speed since these are usually a little bit thicker.
It's a good idea to get to a really flat (with no angle) piece of land with a 4-way GPS connection, and test your actual speed. It will be way more accurate than your reported speed, and that's the speed you should use to travel.
I suppose the question is: why did they go to the time, trouble and expense of installing average speed check cameras?
There must have been some overarching requirement.
Less dead people? Fewer police required?
Once you get out of the average speed check zone, normal service is resumed.
About the "your speedometer doesn't show you the real speed", I have a Twingo (2002), and when it shows 140km/h, it's actually 130km/h on the gps, which makes it quite funny when I have friends in the car.
He used Miles per hour because we use miles in the UK, not KM.
@frahamen in the uk you dont always get a fine if you have never been done for speeding you get offered a speed awareness course which lasts 3 hours its on the condition you dont speed in the next 2yrs, my son has been driving 30yrs and only got speeding once he was doing 33 in a 30 limit.
Cruise control is nowhere near ubiquitous in the UK out of my last 5 cars only 2 have had it.
Apparently about 92% of new cars come with some form of cruise control, now but that new cars. Plenty of older cars on the roads and cheaper cars don't get it as standard.
@@Thurgosh_OG same here in Italy.
People who say they don't like cameras are really saying they don't want to follow the laws..if you aren't doing anything wrong then why worry?..and may I repeat others comments, we DON'T get pulled over..a fine is sent via the post...speeding just seven miles over the speed limit can be the difference between life and death...I'm sure, Ryan, you'd feel a hell of a lot differently if your family were in a crash...AND Range River was a British company by the way, for years, but now licensed by an Indian company, but is still built in the UK. Not everything is American sweetheart...😊✌🇬🇧
Not wanting your movements tracked does not mean you are doing something wrong (illegal).
There maybe people who you don't want to know where you are (ex-partner, maybe, business competitors...), and we know how secure most systems are. Its easier to restrict access to information if it is not collected.
He said MPH because despite what most Americans think, we use Miles and not Kilometres in the UK
Fun fact: In The Netherlands the law is that (on highways) you only get fined from 108 km/h ACTUAL speed. This means you can drive up to 110 km/h without getting fined on a highway. The reason is this: You won't get fined for anything below 4 km/h. But the caveat here is that there's also a correction of 3km/h or 3% of actual speed, whichever is higher. This means you can effectively drive 107 without a fine because 3% of 107 will be rounded up to 4 km/h correction. Then added the 3 km/h speedometer speed and you can drive 110 km/h.
I took my chance and tested this on an average speed camera multiple times: no speeding ticket.
My 2005 Volvo XC 70 has a cruise control, which can be set as low as 20mph. Since 2005, as soon as I leave home, I set my control to 30mph to try to avoid being recorded as speeding in my town,
It is not just the cost of a speeding fine, but the increased costs of car insurance that takes 5 years to stop the premium being loaded , for a speeding offence.
In addition,my town is infested with average speed check cameras.
Even though the UK switched to the Metric system. They did not give up their miles and mph measure. Also to change all the signage to km would have been ridiculously expensive. So they chose to keep the mile and to change all else to metric, like Celsius and kilos etc.
The 'Too Expensive' thing is just an excuse, as they could have done a gradual rollout of sign changes. It will happen at some point in the next couple of decades, as younger generations, only taught metric get into places of power.
Not everything. How much do you weigh? How tall are you?
@@bencodykirkand what do you drink your beer from?
1. Manual cars don't have cruise control and we have a lot of manual cars 2. The UK use miles for distance and mph for speed
A lot of manual cars do have cruise control
I have never had a car with cruise control until a week ago and I’m 55
uk uses both metric and imperial, miles per hour, pints etc
It wouldn't surprise me at all if all American cards have cruise control, it's designed for people who are lazy, and let's be honest, a lot of American's look for the easiest way of doing everything, that also explains why there are so many card in America that have an automatic gearbox rather than a manual one that the UK has for the vast majority of cars
we use mph for most vehicles in the uk
The usa needs something when you compare traffic deaths 42,795 people died on the usa compared to 1,695 fatalities in the uk .
I've never had cruise control, can't afford that 😂
it is definatly 10% all over the uk. then some county's add +1 or separately
If you are referring to speedos, then probably but they Myth about the Police having this as well is just that. Some forces have guidelines to allow for some leeway but they can prosecute you for 1mph over the limit if they feel like it.
Most small in the Uk cars do not have cruise control.
The 10%+2 rule (numbers are different in other countries) is an artifact of old speed cameras with a big built in inaccuracy. Based on that inaccuracy it would be very easy for speeders to fight tickets on that argument. The point of average speed checks is to take that out of the equation. Driving 10mph over over a mile almost eliminates that inaccuracy.
It's math.
If you are travelling at 67 mph instead of 60 mph, your stopping distance is increased by 27%. So, if you're travelling at 60 mph and manage to stop just before hitting a child, if you were travelling at 67 mph you would carry on for 27% of the braking distance further after hitting the child. Speed kills whether you are in the UK or the US!
We use Mph in uk and our distances are in miles not Kilometres. We use a mixe of metric and imperial. We measure beer and milk in pints and other stuff in litres.
Speed cameras are there for a very good reason, to deter people from speeding! It’s not an infringement on you personally, it’s for safety and it works, our roads are statistically safer than most. Saves lives!
i drive a 3km avg speed check every day for 10 years now, in Dutch we call them "trajectcontrole"
In my own car i car drive a constant 110km/h on my gauge without getting a fine.
Didn't work in my mums car i found out after a full week, that one hurt.
I've got a 2009 Peugeot.. without a cruise control. :D
I've got a 2012 Ford Fiesta also without cruise control ^^ Isn't that like normal?
I'm from the UK and have been driving for over 40 years. I must have occasionally driven over the speed limit many times, but I've never ever had a ticket. I never, unless I have to, drive on a motorway though, just don't like them.
My cousine who is a cop told me that if your car showed 104km/h in a 90km/h you would never be pulled over.
This was about 15-20 years ago though but should be the same.
I have passed a cop car on the highway with the car showing 105km/h in a 90km/h area with a car i know showed about 10km/h wrong and they didnt react at all. This was maybe 10 years ago.
so i think the 10%+5km/h that i have been told is the case here in norway is correct.
in australia some fast guys are stopping right before the second camera :D
As a Dutch man I want to apologise for us inventing the speedcam and yes nowadays we get the ticket in a couple of day's in the mail.
In Sweden, you can be fined if you go too slow on the motorway, 40 km/h or less.
3:15 that is ACC "Adaptive Cruise Control"
Average speed radar actually measures three times. First speed at start, speed at end and average speed. If the speed is exceeded, a beautiful picture is ready to send to the sinner. Static radars are basically non-discriminatory. If they send the fine automatically, there can't be a word against it. Was your car going fast? It doesn't matter who the driver was, you are responsible for ensuring that your property is not used to break the law.
In some places in Europe, the average speed is measured again after a few kilometers.
What is the surprise for the fast driver when the fine comes from the "unmeasured" section. Sure, distance between sections is known...
Maybe there's a good case for speed cameras in America if, as you say, everyone is speeding. I don't know what the accident rate is there but UK roads are actually quite safe.
Speed kills its that simple . Look at the stats on road deaths in the u.s. compared to the u.k. you will be surprised also we have MOT which makes sure your car is road worthy not an old rust bucket which potentially could be a death trap .
Actually the speed limits in the US are usually shockingly low especially on motorways and country roads. Not in cities though, where it's actually the most danrgerous.
But I think one of the reasons there are more deaths on US roads is because people drive more, and because the infrastructure is not adapted at all to protect pedestrians. There could be more like the driver's license being so easy to get and the very lenient regulations in general (for exemple passing on the right).
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By now, Ryan, you should know that the UK is still clinging on to their "miles per hour". It's because of their hatred of the French. 😂
Specifically Napoleon.
you might not have to think about these things but you should probably think about why the usa's road accident rate is over 10x higher than the uk per capita. 30,000 people died in the usa last year in road accidents this number was less than 2000 in the uk. Road safety laws save thousands of lives, it could be you or youre family thats one of those 30,000 every year.
They don't care. It's all about "freedom" to them.
Just look at their school shootings problem.
I do like the average speed cameras, it's like a tax on people too stupid to understand how averages work.
i never drove a car with cruise control
Most cars are manual or "stick" so cruise isnt common. Higher spec cars have it.
Licence plates are tied to the car and registered centrally so all police and other authorities can check the owner and the insurance, road tax, MOT linked to the car. Automatic Number Plate Recognition cameras are everywhere including in traffic police cars, so you are constantly checked and can be tracked for infringement.
Road deaths per 100,000 car miles travelled are twice as high in the USA as Europe.
Speed is the biggest factor in walking away from an accident or carried away in a bag. The forces involved are squared by speed, so twice as fast is 4 times the force.
Excessive speeding is no longer common in the UK. The culprits are likely to be criminals or arrogant tosspots. Everyone speeds a bit occasionally and never have a problem.
Infrared cameras do not emit infrared light. Infrared, otherwise known as heat, is enitted by cars and is detected by infrared cameras, just like regular cameras that are not equipped with a light source (which is the vast majority of them) do not emit light
Hmmm Why would someone from UK use mph...hmmmm
Maybe the imperial unit system originated in the British Empire?! xD
As so often, you Americans dont realize you were nether the first nor are the only one...
leave it to the Brits to mix imperial and metric and make it even more complicated
It should be Distance divided by Time to give the average Speed, not Time divided by Distance.
The whole purpose of using average speed cameras is to stop people slowing down for fixed cameras and then driving like maniacs until they see the next one and slow down again, although some people are still stupid enough to think that slowing down as they drive past the averaging camera will be enough to save them.
Because traditional mechanical speedometers were not 100% accurate, the law allowed an error of +/- 10% in the accuracy, so although modern electronic speedos are more accurate, it is extremely unlikely that you will be prosecuted for driving at less than 10% over the speed limit.
He use miles beacuse he in english. Here in Sweden we say kilometer.
I have never been in a car with cruise control lol
Ever taken a taxi? 😇
I assume you mean you have never DRIVEN a car with cruise control. It's very useful. I don't have the fancy new kind that speeds up/slows down automatically with the traffic, but it's still very useful.
In my country there is speeding cameras all over the place!
Soo.. its more like -10% to be safe!
Norway?
@@bencodykirk Sweden, but I understand that Norway has as lot of them as we have!
We use mph here in the uk
some cars have cruise control others don't we use mph but some use kph but when that happens we are confused so we say wtf is that in mph but our speedometer have both mph and kph
Suzuki swift did arrive to Mexico, it’s a manual transmission car 😅
I didn't realised the USA didn't have Suzuki cars. When Ryan said "they don't have that brand here" I had to replay it to check what he said.
The thing about speed limits is, they exist for a reason. I'm not at all sure that driving tests place enough emphasis on this, for drivers do seem to speed pretty much everywhere. An average excess of 7kph in the US sounds pretty reasonable actually, as I'd imagine the average excess in the UK to be around 15mph, or more than twice what it is in the US - which is pretty bad, especially when you consider that the reason that the limits apply in the first place is invariably safety. A bendy, country road with blind summits - where it's not always possible to see what lies ahead, is an obvious example; yet there still seems to be a very large number of drivers who only consider this in terms of their own safety! What's the probability of me hitting a problem within the next unseen dip, they ask themselves in those constant, split-second risk assessments they make - or should be making, at any rate. And they speed accordingly...
The problem with that is that, in congested cities, we all just want to get moving and maybe even recover a bit of the excess time that the journey has so far taken - and that makes life pretty hazardous for locals who want to cross the road to the shops, pub, or bus stop... Park, playground, school and leisure centre entrances - which might not be so obvious to the speeding motorist, often bring small children with less ability to be seen or see, into the equation. They might also be accompanied by slower-moving or reacting, older relatives; those pushing prams occupied by babies or pulling heavy shopping trollies or suitcases. Pedestrian or cycle crossings also occur more frequently in such areas, and anywhere buses are likely to pick up or decant passengers and then move off, creating a temporary blind-spot; are all reasons for not speeding that tend not to be properly risk-assessed by drivers who normally only assess risks based upon their own safety...! It seems obvious when you say it like this, but the speeding behaviour of many motorists in these areas - most of which will have a 30 or 40mph limit, does not suggest that the message is getting through clearly enough, and so, accidents occur.
At the present time, there is a move towards 20mph maximum speed limits in all urban areas, partly aimed to reduce the harmful effects of motor vehicle emissions, that invariably occur in higher concentrations in such areas, and thus improve the air quality for those that live and work there. And it's also about increasing the safety of other road users. It's hotly opposed by motorists and motoring organisations of course, but hell, the problem is really simple: nobody's too worried if you hit 46mph in a 40mph speed limit area; nor 34mph in a 30mph one: it's when you do 46 in 30 zones that it becomes problematic! And, until such times as speeding behaviour suggests that motorists are taking the needs of all other road users into account as they make their on-the-road risk assessments, I can see that speed limit being reduced further! In other words, if having 20mph signs is the only way of getting you all to drive at only a little over 30mph in such areas - then so be it! Drivers of the UK: the choice is yours.
Just lower your gear to the speed you need to travel. Its pretty simple
I mean, so you hate the thought being on camera until you get hit by a car or family member does, You get attacked or family member does, your property gets broken into if you live in the urban area. This comes with that for a reason because they are on dangerous roads where people have probably died. I know that in the USA human life doesn't really mean that much when it comes to the car.
"That's an American car right there.. the Range Rover." Hope you were being sarcastic.
Cruise control is almost standard - except for budget cars. It is didn't used to be in anything but luxury cars - too many bendy roads to be worthwhile.
There's no of average speeding in Serbia. Camera gets you and that's it! Why to get you again? The fact is - the driver speeded! There's no of speeding for a moment, right?
You get a call from police by mail; "Come to ____ police station at ____ time. The ticket is ____ din. If you pay it in 8 days - we will take 50% off. Here are evidences (photos of car, zoomed plates and timestamp)".
I don't know if in other countries people have to go to place where they got caught, or they can go to police station in their city. For example, my brother got the "love letter", calling him to be in the city more than 100km away from where he lives, because the camera was there (he was in visit). He had to drive for 2 hours to be there in early morning.
We have a lot of cameras on traffic lights, roads and streets through cities. More and more... Cameras are not watching just cars. It's illegal to stare at your phone as you're crossing the street as pedestrian, just as a driver!
Idk how it's in modern cars but cruise control is a very american thing with your damn ass long highways where you drive like a snail for hours.
My car also has no cruise control. Both cars of my parents also don't have it.
Where do you live? How OLD are those cars?