Is Religion Necessary?

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  • čas přidán 12. 06. 2022
  • Is Religion necessary or would we be better off without it?
    Does Religion end up causing more destruction to humanity?
    How does Religion help the world?
    Let's find out as @eisayo and @DearAlyne go head to head to discuss one of the most popular, most widely debated topics across the world!

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  • @ashwanthvinod5190
    @ashwanthvinod5190 Před rokem +566

    “If you delete religion,in 10 years someone will create new religion but if you delete science, in 10 years gravity is still gravity "-Alyne

    • @abdul51476
      @abdul51476 Před rokem +37

      Why someone create religion after 10 years. Is it necessary? Yes it is . because it is needy in our day to day life.

    • @akilansary3757
      @akilansary3757 Před rokem +56

      But the thing is, you can never ever delet islam. Thats the point. So, we shouldn’t talk about something which is cant happen ( i am talking about islam).

    • @abdul51476
      @abdul51476 Před rokem +14

      @@akilansary3757 and I'm totally agree with you.

    • @sancianicole3279
      @sancianicole3279 Před rokem +45

      But god will still exist and this quote is pretty dumb

    • @ihavelepoop2325
      @ihavelepoop2325 Před rokem +15

      First of all, you can't just delete an environment that's been here for thousands of years. Second of all, if you delete science, the way we look at science could pretty much change. The formula for gravity could change if you delete science for instance. Who says math will be the same? The meaning is the same, the characters won't be. Same for religion - God is the same but the books will be different.

  • @randomdude197
    @randomdude197 Před 2 lety +573

    As long as people keep their opinions about their religion to themselves, I am totally fine with the existence of religion

    • @catfish369
      @catfish369 Před 2 lety +5

      Can i copy your cmmnt please ? 🥀🙏 i love it 🥰

    • @annie6606
      @annie6606 Před rokem +1

      I love this comment

    • @donaldmjbart-williams3144
      @donaldmjbart-williams3144 Před rokem +7

      Why do you want the suppress my opinion? There is no such thing as good. You may have set up a community and dedicated yourself to a course, However, the existence of God is nonsense.

    • @abood3780
      @abood3780 Před rokem

      Thank you

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem +4

      no religion gonna just stay still ..... but always start a war if there different opinion/belief than community/society/country is not gonna accept just always reject it ....

  • @darboojpatil3335
    @darboojpatil3335 Před rokem +22

    The conflict arises when one tries to dominate the other, and the other will either HAVE to fight back or be crushed. But it's really a great debate. ❤️

  • @ecosfilosoficos
    @ecosfilosoficos Před rokem +48

    I like the format of this channel. I don't know why, but so many people are completely not aware of how useful practicing debate is. Most people who are passionate ( in the best case) or fanatic ( in the worst) will end up fighting and hating everyone who thinks differently than them. When reality is so simple, you can totally have different opinions, and have totally normal and healthy interaction with people with other views. Thank you for this great idea 😎😍👌

  • @bottlenosedolphin
    @bottlenosedolphin Před 2 lety +87

    can you do a debate on either one of the following:
    1. A criminal is born bad vs A criminal is brought up badly
    2. school uniforms vs no school uniforms
    Edit: not to be that person, but tysm for 70 likes!
    Edit 2: 75 likes? Tysm keep it going guys

    • @Hanzala_Siddique
      @Hanzala_Siddique Před 2 lety +18

      I am in support of school uniform as it brings the sense of equality among children. Like if there's no Uniform rich kids will wear all those fancy and expensive cloths which will put the poor ones in self doubt and embarrassment

    • @Hypefury02
      @Hypefury02 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Hanzala_Siddique As someone who has been in a school with uniforms and one with no uniform this is not true and that really never happens

    • @simonjesusbeliever3467
      @simonjesusbeliever3467 Před 2 lety +7

      A criminal is brought badly

    • @trolltroddsecondedition4214
      @trolltroddsecondedition4214 Před rokem +1

      @@Hanzala_Siddique Actually it's opposite...
      Some poor parents aren't able to buy uniforms as you know the prices are stacked up. Psychologically, uniform discourages students to attend the school as if they don't have freedom to wear clothes they like(Although they should dress decently)..

    • @soldier.proud-234
      @soldier.proud-234 Před rokem +1

      A criminal is brought up badly

  • @puzzLEGO
    @puzzLEGO Před 2 lety +306

    Religion is hard. People say “don’t force your beliefs” but from their point of view it’s literally a life or death situation to talk about it

    • @Kristan1503
      @Kristan1503 Před 2 lety +6

      Yea

    • @RawfunRahman
      @RawfunRahman Před rokem +13

      Religion is easy

    • @usmanfaisal2005
      @usmanfaisal2005 Před rokem +8

      Bro in Islam sleeping is good how is that even hard and this is a TEST but all that hard work of worshipping can get you in heaven and that is the biggest thing a human can have

    • @captainjaicob5812
      @captainjaicob5812 Před rokem

      @@usmanfaisal2005 yeah. If i worship allah i will get many virgin women for s#x in heaven [ Quran surah 23 ayat 5 ]

    • @RawfunRahman
      @RawfunRahman Před rokem +15

      @@usmanfaisal2005 imagine not believing in god and getting into hell

  • @ponchocr
    @ponchocr Před rokem +13

    Vanilla cake analogy is priceless... I will use it in the future, thanks! I have jut discovered this channel, already love it, thanks for what you all do, great format.

  • @kimjongun3557
    @kimjongun3557 Před rokem +131

    "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind"
    -Albert Einstein

    • @Bobby_244
      @Bobby_244 Před rokem +14

      there are many things who discovered so late but religion told us many years earlier 😂

    • @abdurramijraj6877
      @abdurramijraj6877 Před rokem

      where he says?

    • @cosita7479
      @cosita7479 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Bobby_244 Like the water cycle

    • @RawfunRahman
      @RawfunRahman Před rokem

      @@abdurramijraj6877 czcams.com/video/xgSEVFwRo34/video.html

    • @icy_fire4080
      @icy_fire4080 Před rokem +2

      @@Bobby_244 but they weren't used coz they didn't have science

  • @DearAlyne
    @DearAlyne Před 2 lety +289

    I was sick this day and only had a few hours to prepare 😆 So I hope you all enjoy! We respect everyone’s lifestyles and there are good people religious and not ❤️

    • @wellplanted9587
      @wellplanted9587 Před 2 lety +37

      Alyne you didn't mention how people do discrimination on based of religion in India (my country)
      Many people are discriminated attacked killed and raped religion do makes a community of people
      But people fight for like mine is right and only mine is right not yours and this is wrong
      Btw great debate your speaking skills and communicarion skills are too good 👍😊 keep it up

    • @the3dxm33
      @the3dxm33 Před 2 lety +11

      I enjoyed, you've prepared really well, because frankly everything you said made sense.

    • @sanjanasingh098
      @sanjanasingh098 Před 2 lety +21

      Alyne, i 100% agree with every point you made. Every word of yours is making sense, nothing was senseless like the other person.
      You are such a brilliant speaker . loved it

    • @justinjoseph735
      @justinjoseph735 Před 2 lety +14

      Now Islam is burying young girls when they are older - That was very deep!

    • @nothingtoseehere1071
      @nothingtoseehere1071 Před 2 lety +4

      Atheist

  • @Jurietto
    @Jurietto Před rokem +92

    Honestly I was team Alyne from the beginning to the end. Almost every time she made a good point Eisa switched topics. For example, the bad writings in religious texts, when she mentioned them he just switched to the good part of the texts. But to be honest, I am a huge fan of this debate. It's such a sensitive topic, and yet both of the contestants were able to talk about it so politely and full of respect. Alyne and Eisa both did amazing, congrats!

    • @studyhard-tl4bx
      @studyhard-tl4bx Před 6 měsíci +8

      Elsa was just avoiding her questions instead of answer it.. I felt pretty much irritated when he dodged her questions..

  • @i_dk737
    @i_dk737 Před rokem +1

    JEEEEEEEEEEES, This debate is freakin crazy !!!!!!! I LOVE IT. Thank you for this channel

  • @art.ouille
    @art.ouille Před rokem +51

    Damnnn how i love debates on this channel. I'm obviously on Alyne's side. I love her so much and how intellectual she is.

  • @danial4752
    @danial4752 Před 2 lety +133

    Hi! As someone who is not strongly religious, I wanna give my views on this debate. I attempt to be as non-biased as possible.
    First, it was really frustrating that Eisa was not replying to any of Alyne's statements. If Alyne would say something about religion having very violent things eg 14:29 "Women are the helpmates to husbands", then Eisa talks about religion developing over time, which is not answering Alyne's point. So the debate felt really confusing because it was just a lot of points thrown everywhere and not being linked.
    Second, kudos to Alyne for actually taking in Eisa's statements eg 13:01 When Eisa talked about SK being a less religious country having high suicide rates, Alyne answered that less religious islands also have low suicide rates. So her statements are a follow up to Eisa's statements and thus easier to understand.
    So in summary both Eisa and Alyne had very good knowledge, but Alyne was better at debating back and proving her point than Eisa. I hope that Eisa can try to answer to the opponent's statements in the next debate, and to Alyne, keep it up!

    • @danial4752
      @danial4752 Před 2 lety +10

      To add on about the skill of answering to the opponent's statements which was strong in Alyne but less strong in Eisa, here is an example to help.
      Note that this is an example I made up, and is not representative of actual statistics.
      Imagine 2 people debating, Person A and person B.
      They are debating on whether Mcdonalds food should be banned because of its unhealthiness.
      Person A is on team "dont abolish Mcdonalds"
      Person B is on team "abolish Mcdonalds"
      If B says "Mcdonalds is very unhealthy because it contains lots of saturated fat and calories",
      a BAD response from A would be "But there are Mcdonalds salads which are low in fat and calories so you have to look at the bigger picture, not all Mcd food in unhealtjy"
      A GOOD response from A would be "But fat and calories will not have effect of somebodys health if they have a healthy lifestyle. Eg if they exercise daily, they will burn many calories. Thus mcd having high calories wont be an issue"
      Hope this helps Eisa or Alyne or anyone that sees this!

    • @danial4752
      @danial4752 Před 2 lety +5

      Oh and adding on to the Mcdonalds example:
      You may ask why is the first response of A bad but 2nd response of A good?
      Look at B's context. B is talking about Mcd food in general being unhealthy.
      So A's 1st response (salad) is only proving that some foods arent unhealthy. So shouldnt the foods that are unhealthy (eg fries) be abolished? A did not address that.
      Meanwhile A's 2nd response (healthy lifestyle) is on behalf of ALL mcd foods, eg no matter what unhealthy Mcd food you eat, if you exercise a lot, your health is not affected, thus mcd need not be abolished
      Hope this helps :)

    • @massoudavira4956
      @massoudavira4956 Před rokem +5

      Well said this comment summarizes a lot of my thoughts quite well

    • @danial4752
      @danial4752 Před rokem +2

      @@massoudavira4956 Thank you so much! I appreciate that

    • @duckgoat7570
      @duckgoat7570 Před rokem +11

      You missed out alyne making arguments based on a lack of understanding and research of islam script. She cited surah Tawbah verse 5 which says to kill the polytheists yet completely took it out of context. Anybody who actually reads the text knows it is in the context of war and self defense. The next verse literally annihilates her futile attempt at demonising islam. The next verse states 'And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection ˹O Prophet˺, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge.'

  • @yeah2756
    @yeah2756 Před 2 lety +82

    Keep doing this type of videos because these videos give us knowledge to understand the world more.

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 Před rokem +7

    Yoga is a science...not religion

  • @studyhard-tl4bx
    @studyhard-tl4bx Před 6 měsíci +7

    Elsa was just avoiding her questions instead of answer it.. I felt pretty much irritated when he dodged her questions..
    Alyne was wonderful in putting forward points even thought I'm not atheist..👍👍

  • @eisayo
    @eisayo Před 2 lety +70

    This was a tough debate but I really enjoyed it! Excited to read your thoughts 🙏🏼
    #TeamReligion

    • @ojpi
      @ojpi Před 2 lety +3

      ye

    • @AbdurRahman-yy1sg
      @AbdurRahman-yy1sg Před 2 lety +4

      Being religious is important to my opinion.
      Religion is the only thing that makes we human apart from animal.if you have no borders, no conditions in your life from childhood you’ll never ever be well disciplined, well mannered and a good individual in your society.
      The main things our religion promotes us is to be humble,kind,respectful and spread kindness among humanity, help someone in need.
      For many reasons 99.99% being religious is good except that 00.01% I hope you got it.
      And there are some main point’s to consider,
      • The bad behaviors of religious people/leader/monk may ruin the religion or society.
      •The culture is culture it’s not a religion most people don’t understand the difference between these two.
      (In Sri Lanka there is 4 main religions but the culture is different from east to west)
      I’m proudly a Muslim the religion protected me from bad behaviors, addiction and being rude.
      Just a short comment
      Thanks 🙏

    • @Dense197
      @Dense197 Před 2 lety +5

      You didn't debate well with her. You didn't had constructive argument.

    • @parthsarda2793
      @parthsarda2793 Před 2 lety

      @Lalith Kumar I think the same but in today's society the religious orthodox created by certain people seem to question the essence of religion and it's validity

    • @sarfrazz3055
      @sarfrazz3055 Před 2 lety +1

      Man❤️

  • @sayedbuhari
    @sayedbuhari Před 2 lety +21

    I really loved this channel..hope to see more interesting debates.
    Kudos Nasdaily ❤️👏

  • @youssefabid1034
    @youssefabid1034 Před rokem +11

    I really loved this! I just think the wooos and the booos may be too much because they add unnecessary pressure on the people arguing and if they get booed or the other person gets "wooed" it might demoralise them or make them less concentrated on the task which is reaching a better understanding of the subject in hand and getting closer to knowing the truth.
    I also think 30 seconds is also adding unnecessary pressure and might lead to a more stressful and less fruitful and explained debate.
    I loved the debate either way, i hope you do more and these are just constructive comments!

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 Před rokem +37

    I told my children...to choose their religion on their own...we never in house ask to do any ritual force...but for us most important is being moral.i go with spirituality. I go with Alyne...but I do believe in God...need not be a religion. My definition of religious is being more human...helping understanding others..

    • @mr.lastgamer5592
      @mr.lastgamer5592 Před rokem +2

      If you believe in god then let your actions do the talking

    • @doomslayer2873
      @doomslayer2873 Před rokem +3

      @@mr.lastgamer5592 God doesn’t exist let’s be honest

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem +2

      @@doomslayer2873 but what's the proof of that?

    • @supernova9203
      @supernova9203 Před rokem +1

      @@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude you are confused i guess 😂 does he exist or not right?

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem +1

      @@supernova9203 Yes, how anyone can be so sure that only Allah is your creator?
      it's just not right to think that anyone have evidence without any real evidence.

  • @charukalra8555
    @charukalra8555 Před 2 lety +6

    Noting all the points for my future debates . Thanks Nas and team .

    • @eisayo
      @eisayo Před 2 lety +2

      Hahahaha awesome!

  • @inspiremind5439
    @inspiremind5439 Před 2 lety +10

    I'm glad to see you open a new channel for debate, because I think it's very helpful for our society to know a lot clearly, thank you nas from bangladesh.

  • @Surapeladi
    @Surapeladi Před rokem +7

    If there were no religion, the earth itself will be heaven. No discrimination, no aggressive religionism
    What a happy world

    • @muzammilzakir1797
      @muzammilzakir1797 Před rokem +3

      Wrong. Biased

    • @Surapeladi
      @Surapeladi Před rokem +4

      @@muzammilzakir1797 If there were no religions u and I will be the same.Just Homosapiens
      But now it is Homomuslims
      Homochristians
      Homojudians
      Homohinduans
      Homo.etc
      If religion is true it will be only one
      And u will say yours

    • @muzammilzakir1797
      @muzammilzakir1797 Před rokem +2

      @@Surapeladi So you're saying that atoms and the world and sun and plants and asteroids and moons and stars and living creatures all came in EXACT perfect positions by themselves? You're saying that the statements which have been proven to be factually correct were coincidence? You're saying that miracles are not real and that whatever we saw was a dream? Yeah... no atheism is false. And lemme debunk your statement

    • @muzammilzakir1797
      @muzammilzakir1797 Před rokem +1

      @@Surapeladi Islam tells us Muslims NOT to discriminate anyone by gender, property, wealth, reputation, color, race and *religion* . We Muslims abide by it. Have you seen any true Muslim attacking someone for their religion? Certainly not. It's a total heaven, better than atheism. Also you can keep your belief to yourself and I respect that, I don't judge anyone for no reason.

    • @muzammilzakir1797
      @muzammilzakir1797 Před rokem +2

      @@Surapeladi But if you didn't know, Nas Daily is a Muslim. The problem is, he's not abiding by Islamic laws and doing some stupid stuff. And no true Muslim would bring up religion for no reason or be so scared to talk about it that he wants wealth and reputation otherwise he's gonna get cancelled if he follows his religion WOW! Idc if I were cancelled I'd be happy to die with honor than to live and be dishonored standing with the world. Anyways let's end this conversation here, and obviously we should promote equality. Have a good day.

  • @bilalabawi9064
    @bilalabawi9064 Před rokem +2

    Ohg Isa spoke so beautifully. Especially about the part that religion has noting do with atrocities and that a lot of spiritual good comes from it.

  • @rinitamazumdar8829
    @rinitamazumdar8829 Před 2 lety +347

    Love this format. Two people debating in such composed and civil way over controversial and sensitive topics like this-- I'm all in for this. Also, for me Alyne was the winner. Her points were very convincing and she appeared to be very confident. However, the opponent did a good job too. :)

    • @adanaliz01
      @adanaliz01 Před rokem +32

      Alyne didn't prove anything. I understand you think she did but Eisa proved so much more than her and he convinced 27% of people to agree with him rather rather Alyne.

    • @dreamhunter2973
      @dreamhunter2973 Před rokem +38

      @@adanaliz01 alyne proved a lot of stuff...and the voting was based on the audience there...It doesn't show anything in the wider perspective...

    • @adanaliz01
      @adanaliz01 Před rokem +14

      @@dreamhunter2973 alyne didnt prove a lot of stuff. you could easily tell she didnt

    • @dreamhunter2973
      @dreamhunter2973 Před rokem +7

      @@adanaliz01 Just because of the you cant say that..... 🙄

    • @afsarahmed6365
      @afsarahmed6365 Před rokem +10

      @@adanaliz01 can you prove that she did not prove alot of stuff?

  • @soumyahazra6928
    @soumyahazra6928 Před 2 lety +5

    Wow! Amazed by whole of it..this is how a intellectual debate should be! Wonderful❤️

    • @Henri120
      @Henri120 Před rokem

      Bro, they are talking bullshit all the time, especially the man

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      i love to talk about it,
      why not start a discussion/conversation ...?
      let's just start with small topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....

  • @sudhi8517
    @sudhi8517 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Humanity is a religion

  • @erlanggarenggana6513
    @erlanggarenggana6513 Před rokem +3

    Wow what a cool debate. Really loving this. Hope in our country we can have this level of breadth and depth they are doing in a debate.

    • @NasDebates
      @NasDebates  Před rokem

      Thank you! hope you subscribe to the rest of our channel! We have weekly debates!

  • @bhadanachanchal1810
    @bhadanachanchal1810 Před rokem +38

    I think, this is a very good and interesting form🔥 of making people understand the positive and negative side of something. Well, I appreciate 👏👏👏 this new concept of Nas Debates and would love ❤️ to see more of it.
    Lots of appreciation, support and love from India🇮🇳

  • @prasasus
    @prasasus Před 2 lety +79

    6:08 As an Indian, I have never heard this before. We have huge respect to him, his birthday is a national holiday and his face is in all our currencies. I hope you have strong evidence to support this.

    • @frost5685
      @frost5685 Před 2 lety +34

      Actually yes they do have a strong evidence if I am not wrong this was said by himself but what he said is he did this to test his self control
      And even I am an Indian

    • @fitnesscat761
      @fitnesscat761 Před 2 lety +4

      Lol

    • @frost5685
      @frost5685 Před 2 lety +13

      @@fitnesscat761 sorry but what's so funny?

    • @Hanzala_Siddique
      @Hanzala_Siddique Před 2 lety +33

      As a Indian I urge you to study the actual history not the one school teaches you.

    • @davidwalker2144
      @davidwalker2144 Před 2 lety +4

      slanderous lips, God considers it evil and he hates it. According to James 3:15-16, the practice of slander is demonic.

  • @geezer6999
    @geezer6999 Před rokem +12

    One of the biggest reasons i agree with Alyne is because, why should so many good people get sent to hell simply because they followed the "wrong religion". Religion is also at the heart of hundreds of wars in history, to a point where people being murdered in their homes for what they believe in has become a day to day thing

  • @aaryanrahman9922
    @aaryanrahman9922 Před rokem +48

    to all those blind out there, Eisa wasn't forcing alyne to accept Islam, he was just doing the debate. In Islam, we are not allowed to force others to believe in us. We can just preach our religion to others and invite them to learn about us NON-VIOLENTLY NOT FORCEFULLY. If someone is forcing you to accept islam, keep in mind he is breaking the rules

    • @afsarvahussain
      @afsarvahussain Před 10 měsíci +3

      I don't see anyone saying that Eisa was forcing her 🙄

    • @Let_Me_Speak_The_Truth
      @Let_Me_Speak_The_Truth Před 8 měsíci +3

      Absolutely right.. Islam is very peaceful religion... ❤

    • @SR-ry6hs
      @SR-ry6hs Před 5 měsíci

      Oh, the no true Scotsman fallacy. All I see is a pro religious , fallacy based argumentation. We can , and will as more and more people become non religious, create a society that is based on reason, science, and pro-flourishing as it's core tenants, rather than dogma, outdated paitriorical , fear inducing, and divisive writings from ignorant 1st century slave traders. We definitely do NOT need religion.

    • @Joshua-vl5pc
      @Joshua-vl5pc Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Let_Me_Speak_The_TruthPov: You didn’t read the quran

  • @jenisisters
    @jenisisters Před 2 lety +67

    I am a religious person and I am confident that religion gives peace of mind and is a kind of moral compass.I was born a Christian and I am still a believing Christian

    • @ALISHAQUEEN955
      @ALISHAQUEEN955 Před 2 lety +9

      Hinduism is way of life

    • @alexaaa12
      @alexaaa12 Před 2 lety +18

      @@ALISHAQUEEN955 . Let her live the way she wants

    • @Dense197
      @Dense197 Před 2 lety +14

      I left the Christianity and become atheist. Good to see you.

    • @Dense197
      @Dense197 Před 2 lety +7

      @@ALISHAQUEEN955 every religion has a way of life. Even without religion , you'll have way of life. Come with good point.

    • @ragboysinterestinglife
      @ragboysinterestinglife Před 2 lety +3

      Same here Hinduism is a Best example! ❤️😍

  • @JustdawnProduction
    @JustdawnProduction Před rokem +4

    Eisa is right. Religion has encouraged and motivated many people in the past and present to make or build something very good. Unfortunately, not all believers are so good, but individuals aren't the image of the whole community.

    • @fleerwwarzone673
      @fleerwwarzone673 Před rokem

      He is not right because it is not neccessary. It is encouraging but not neccesary. Most atheists have better morals than religious people

  • @iamanfarheen443
    @iamanfarheen443 Před rokem +11

    Hey Nas,
    Keep doing this incredible work that u do...
    Well,on this video I would say that the biggest religion for the whole world should be humanity.
    Keep ur religion to yourself u don't have to comment on anybody else's religion coz no religion is strong or weak

  • @shrutipandya2959
    @shrutipandya2959 Před rokem +59

    All through the video, i was literally waiting for Alyne to talk..i so love her words. Absolutely to the point and crystal clear. And the other guy is just forcibly trying to prove his point, reminded me of my geometry exam when I used to forcibly match LHS=RHS 🤣

    • @sanskritinautiyal
      @sanskritinautiyal Před rokem +1

      Exactly she is lucid with our point without being fumbling with her words ✌️

    • @sancianicole3279
      @sancianicole3279 Před rokem +1

      Not teally

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      lol😆..... but which points do you think he said that way?

    • @theroundpotato5741
      @theroundpotato5741 Před rokem +5

      Look yes she had a lot of points but she kept going OUT OF THE topic like she is trying to prove that religion is bad while the debate is about what? Is religion necessary? And the guy kept the topic like it's almost like bringing a gun into a sword fight. Its more harder for him because he sticked with the topic but he did win at last so I guess yea

    • @polygontower
      @polygontower Před rokem

      @@theroundpotato5741 I think Alyne should have won it but for some strange reason whatever the majority of the audience votes for it gets reversed in the end. In all of the videos one group gets most of the votes than it flips

  • @ariamh823
    @ariamh823 Před 2 lety +11

    13:14
    This is the most important and agreeable thing alyne said

    • @NasDebates
      @NasDebates  Před 2 lety

      #Teamalyne or #Teameisa?

    • @dodo19144
      @dodo19144 Před 2 lety +2

      @@NasDebates team eisa

    • @netheriteop
      @netheriteop Před rokem

      Maybe for some religions but not for Buddhism from my understanding

  • @thedoverboy
    @thedoverboy Před 2 lety +6

    I'm an ATHEIST and i wrote this here before watching the video, i don't know what they will say in this video but I'm solid like stone and nobody can put into religion again

  • @bambam649
    @bambam649 Před rokem +6

    Hey Nas, could you do a debate on how countries around the world ignore higher education?
    A short while ago there was this policy in India to make the female marriage age from 18 to 21 same as Indian men, but there were arguments that why does the govt not increase the free education age from 14yrs equivalent to 10th standard to 21 years or a bachelor? Also at many places governments tend to ignore the education and employment of people.

  • @michalisGT
    @michalisGT Před rokem +57

    I vote for Dear Alyne for ONE MORE TIME......she choose not to be with the masses but what her instinct,soul and hurt tell her to do.
    I do the same way and I think society in its biggest percentage is a group of people with no opinion.

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      society just have same not different opinions

    • @dennisgahm
      @dennisgahm Před rokem

      No opinion means they haven't thought about the issue. At least have an opinion that they don't know after looking at all the evidence. But anyway,there is a hell.

    • @idkbro4932
      @idkbro4932 Před rokem

      Michalis McLaren
      "She chose not be with the masses"
      Alyne: arguing for whatever every atheist liberal secularist person, media, news outlet argues for.

  • @ky965
    @ky965 Před 2 lety +10

    Here in Malaysia politician are using religion to take control of their political power

    • @fyzali3534
      @fyzali3534 Před 2 lety +8

      Here in India that already happened and theysucceeded in it
      If that happens in Malaysia too the country will be ruined

    • @alexaaa12
      @alexaaa12 Před 2 lety

      @@fyzali3534 have u ever try to think why every indian have problem with Muslim?
      I mean there are hindu, sikh , jain, chritsian , Buddhists and parsi but why everyone have problem with Muslim
      We dont hate muslim ,we hate extreme and Radical mentality that majority of people have in your community.

    • @AmericanNomad1983
      @AmericanNomad1983 Před 2 lety

      Same in my country

    • @fyzali3534
      @fyzali3534 Před 2 lety

      @@AmericanNomad1983 which country r u frm bro

    • @AmericanNomad1983
      @AmericanNomad1983 Před 2 lety

      @@fyzali3534 Sudan

  • @subhmaypatra5562
    @subhmaypatra5562 Před rokem +3

    Alynne's points were much much better

  • @BudgetBuysHub
    @BudgetBuysHub Před rokem +6

    Why muslim guys are so handsome 🥺💖💖
    May Allah bless you eisa ✨

    • @Vmpyra
      @Vmpyra Před rokem +1

      Bruh

    • @mini._neji
      @mini._neji Před rokem

      Sure yes may allah bless him but why did u have to bring “handsome”

    • @BudgetBuysHub
      @BudgetBuysHub Před rokem +2

      @@mini._neji cz he is handsome ?!?

    • @a.m.t.s.
      @a.m.t.s. Před rokem +1

      Did you mean Arabs? Come on, Muslims don't have one race or handsome guys only, but yeah most of them are Arabs and people from this area with brown skin, maybe you often see and like this ethnicity

    • @BudgetBuysHub
      @BudgetBuysHub Před rokem +2

      @@a.m.t.s. According to me every human being basically every creature of God is beautiful ❤️
      İ never knew people would mind these little things 🙈 here in my town if you call someone beautiful we don't assume that the rest of the people are ugly for you

  • @ibrahimmonno8948
    @ibrahimmonno8948 Před rokem +3

    Some bad people use religion as a pretext to justify their actions. Religions are perfect, people are not. So never try to learn a religion by looking at people, but by studying religion. But in the end, believers and non-believers, they are all united by believing in something.

  • @neverever1865
    @neverever1865 Před 2 lety +32

    I am Muslim and I am proud to be Muslim
    Religion is important bcz everything happened in this world there is someone handle it all and that is Allah .,.,

    • @Hanzala_Siddique
      @Hanzala_Siddique Před 2 lety +24

      How are you sure it's only Allah but not Jesus, Moses or Shiva ?

    • @otabekhamrayev8006
      @otabekhamrayev8006 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Hanzala_Siddique cause they were humans who lived and eventually died,but Allah not male or female ,and ever living

    • @hamidullahhamid8969
      @hamidullahhamid8969 Před 2 lety +14

      @@Hanzala_Siddique Jesus Moses were Prophets, Shiva lived on this earth can't say whether he was a prophet or not , The word Allah is an Arabic word for god or creator

    • @saltsucker
      @saltsucker Před 2 lety

      😂 LOL

    • @saltsucker
      @saltsucker Před 2 lety

      No god exists 🦹

  • @thegermanbasket732
    @thegermanbasket732 Před rokem +8

    I mean… like she said, only food water and shelter are necessary. She’s technically right and there is kinda no way to debate that, given the nature of the word necessary. But I’m an agnostic atheist, so I agree with all of her points either way, no one ever chooses to be part of a religion, they’re raised into it.

    • @animebitxes6650
      @animebitxes6650 Před rokem

      your incorrect your the one who’s raised into atheism since the belief in god is actually scientifically innate

    • @duckgoat7570
      @duckgoat7570 Před rokem +2

      No one ever chooses to be part of a religion? Tell that to the millions upon millions who have converted to a religion

    • @animebitxes6650
      @animebitxes6650 Před rokem

      @@duckgoat7570 i mean imagine even in this day and age islam is the fastest growing faith

    • @thegermanbasket732
      @thegermanbasket732 Před rokem

      @@duckgoat7570 I meant they never choose to be a part of the religion they are born into, but the fact that some convert afterwards just proves that everyone should have at least a basic understanding of other religions before exposing them to a religion, let’s say Christianity, for long enough for them to never make up their own opinions on religion, only the opinions that were passed down by their parents

    • @idkbro4932
      @idkbro4932 Před rokem

      Necessary in what sense? Food and water are necessary for living, whilst religion-Islam-is necessary for salvation in the afterlife, and it is necessary to be a righteous person on this Earth.

  • @hafizhmaul18
    @hafizhmaul18 Před rokem +37

    What I love from the concept of religion (POV : Islam) is how it balances people.
    We always can read the Quran with 2 perspective, and that's beautiful.
    Example :
    - when it comes to the poor, it Commands them to not asking people for money, being grateful and keep "Tawakkal". It keeps your self-regard though ur poor.
    - when it comes to the rich, it asks them to give their money, being generous and don't afraid of losing money. It teaches them to not anxious with the money, etc.

    • @chadultrapromax1735
      @chadultrapromax1735 Před 11 měsíci +5

      But what happens to the balance of power when it is given to women or LGBTQ or non believers.
      The very reason that religion swores to destroy anyone hindering it's propagation or tries to overpower other religion makes me puke .
      Every religion sucks period. These morals can be learnt in moral sciences in jr. High school lol

    • @zwilder1
      @zwilder1 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@chadultrapromax1735 Surely there are other ways to instill morals within the youth but religion is simply the best way we have currently. Religion has survived and kept its meaning for thousands of years, and education is not nearly good enough to keep that sort of consistency

    • @chadultrapromax1735
      @chadultrapromax1735 Před 8 měsíci

      @@zwilder1 still education has a potential to improve and develop way better than religion. Right now if anything is hindering modern society it has to be religion. Wars are fought over it. Radical killings are done in name of it. To have actual progress we need to stop preserving it and actually take a massive leap forward. One must learn from history and should not literally adopt it.
      Religious people often argue how they are scientifically correct which they aren't but religion was not a scientific issue it has always been a political issue. The reason it is carried from centuries is because of fear itself. The fear of the afterlife, heaven and hell which nobody has ever seen in existence. With each generation religion is losing its strong hold and hence we are getting better as a society due to exposure to education.

  • @k-wayyy2239
    @k-wayyy2239 Před rokem +27

    I really agree with the man on the left especially when he said that the religion isn’t bad it’s the people in the community… it’s just my opinion

    • @Kremlin_
      @Kremlin_ Před rokem

      What you want to actually debate on, wrong people or wrong religion or anything else...... I'm debate lover 🌻

    • @ricardomadleno564
      @ricardomadleno564 Před 10 měsíci

      And then you understand why modern nations such as western countries, China, Russia and Japan and every fucking nation that doesn’t have its political and educational system attached to a fictional old minded brainwashing scheme of centuries ago is so much more developed than Muslim countries…one is about innovation of ideas the other is about preservation of ancient ideas. Muslim countries will always be leagues below the rest of the world as long as they don’t realize that religion was made to be appreciated and not followed blindly like a cult. You are only gonna push yourself down as long as you keep preserving ideas of centuries ago completely outdated for todays needs. Innovation is the birth of power and there is zero to almost none of it in Muslim middle eastern countries.

  • @HAAHMAD-uh2ih
    @HAAHMAD-uh2ih Před 2 lety +24

    esa was defntly good he was open to the negative part of the religion but elyn was not open in her thought, her points rolling around she was just fed up by rules. Rules are needed for science for maths for cooking for militry etc. etc. choice is upto u how much rule u r able to tolerate to bring best out of u.
    edit- for example ur brain is not able to calculate 2×2=4 n people do bad things by multiplication they cheat with money etc. bcoz they know the rule of multiplication they manipulate others.
    It doesn't mean u stop allowing ur brain to understand the theory of multiplication n the rules behind it. just Bcoz u dont like 2×2 is 4 n its tough this way u end up being dumb n won't become successful in life.
    to live here n life after death there is certain rules, definlity people misuse those rules but don't close ur brain to learn understand.

    • @eisayo
      @eisayo Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

    • @Dani-lk3ed
      @Dani-lk3ed Před 2 lety

      Yup ... atheist are biggest preacher of their faith but they don't admit it....

    • @hivsdotcom4422
      @hivsdotcom4422 Před rokem

      @@Dani-lk3ed Nope its just the loud minority annoying religious people like how the minority of muslims do some bad things and give a bad name to the majority of muslims

    • @choerrysmaid6299
      @choerrysmaid6299 Před rokem

      rules are necessary as long as it serves a purpose and are factual, religion is a pseudo belief people can live without it

    • @minhtung4583
      @minhtung4583 Před rokem +3

      He never addresses her point, he always dodge it when he got stucked

  • @candygirl6401
    @candygirl6401 Před 2 lety +27

    Team Esa!!!
    Wohoooo 💪🔥
    Also I feel sad that the girl was disappointed by her religion. May be she was not practicing in a proper way or may be she was not in the right religion(just my opinion).

    • @CH-pt1gx
      @CH-pt1gx Před rokem

      Yeah she is Muslim. Maybe she is disappointed that her religion suppress women

    • @user-wu3td8qu6y
      @user-wu3td8qu6y Před rokem

      i know a lot of ppl who were super religious but eventually weren’t bc it ruined them (different religions too). and ppl can live normal lives without it.

    • @wenzerukun9823
      @wenzerukun9823 Před rokem +4

      Haha the guy doesn't prove anything it's countered by the woman

    • @felixwell5772
      @felixwell5772 Před rokem +1

      Naaah she was on point.

    • @icy_fire4080
      @icy_fire4080 Před rokem

      Lol

  • @Sultanplayz1453
    @Sultanplayz1453 Před rokem +42

    As a Student And A Muslim, I Have Been Facing Stress, Mental Illness, anxiety etc, due to school reasons, but if i put it aside and focus on religion, it actually feels better!, I am blessed to be a Muslim, and that i have a goal of life

    • @shingekinokyojinbiteszadus7265
      @shingekinokyojinbiteszadus7265 Před rokem +4

      Good for you buts it's actually opposite for me

    • @GuruPrasad-tb3qk
      @GuruPrasad-tb3qk Před rokem +4

      True , practising our religion also calm our minds and helps us being righteous , honest and having a fear factor .

    • @ellahartman1886
      @ellahartman1886 Před rokem +2

      She didn't say religion isn't a wonderful thing, she said it isn't _necessary_

    • @brock5783
      @brock5783 Před rokem +2

      @@shingekinokyojinbiteszadus7265 because you haven't a mind and reality in you life

  • @MRNOMANALEEM
    @MRNOMANALEEM Před rokem

    The best debate ever seen without hurting anyone sentiments..I won't comment here to who I'm agree with.. but thanks for sharing this as I got most of my answers. Kudos 👏

  • @dyanmicbeach
    @dyanmicbeach Před rokem +11

    i think isa won because he made so many good points. aline u were saying that countries like japan and scandinavia they dont believe much in religion and their crimne rate is lower but if look at their suicide rate it is much higher than any other country

    • @hudai10minute29
      @hudai10minute29 Před rokem

      Bro That debate is staged

    • @Aaliyah_Matyevna
      @Aaliyah_Matyevna Před rokem

      Yes religion helps a lot of ppl to gain mental happiness.

    • @prime12602
      @prime12602 Před rokem

      Bc of the economic conditions religion is not everything bro religion is the least important in their country, both south korea and japan have higher suicide rates bc of their work cultures and shitty economy and societal expectations

  • @oruchimarugodofknowledge9877

    I'm from turkey. And if I compare myself to old self, a Muslim, I don't change at all, also I feel more comfortable and spend more time to learning, work harder, because I believe it is my only life and I should live to to deserve to live. So, individually, I believe it is both unnecessary and vain.

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      i love to talk about it,
      why not start a discussion/conversation ...?
      let's just start with small part of topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....

    • @oruchimarugodofknowledge9877
      @oruchimarugodofknowledge9877 Před rokem

      @@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude I don't have questions

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      @@oruchimarugodofknowledge9877 lol...
      but i have Questions...
      why don't you have any questions? ... lol😅

    • @oruchimarugodofknowledge9877
      @oruchimarugodofknowledge9877 Před rokem

      @@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude you can ask😂 but I'm not native in English.

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem +1

      @@oruchimarugodofknowledge9877 no problem....
      My Question :
      why do you think religion is necessary or not necessary?

  • @pranjalaneja1325
    @pranjalaneja1325 Před rokem +4

    Please bring more debates.
    Like -
    Right wing politics vs left wing politics
    Do problems like climate change affect third world countries where people find it difficult to put food on table?

  • @PoojaSharma-fg5md
    @PoojaSharma-fg5md Před rokem +6

    The first university was Taxshila, presently in Pakistan, It was a Hindu university having subject like Arithmetic, Astronomy, Language, Geometry, and Life studies with religious concepts which were right if we understand their basic meaning...

    • @swastikkumar5115
      @swastikkumar5115 Před rokem

      yes

    • @usaid4580
      @usaid4580 Před rokem

      Of course It's an Indian

    • @torum6448
      @torum6448 Před 10 měsíci

      @@mo_N15 Islamic school not university, get your facts straight.

    • @torum6448
      @torum6448 Před 10 měsíci

      @@mo_N15 No, the first real university was the university of Bologna in Italy in 1088, well it didn't really become an university until 1190 truth be told. An Islamic school is a university in the same way that a catholic or an orthodox school is an actual education facility. No, those are indoctrination centers whose purpose is to create more religious zealots. The Al Quaraouiyine only did not become a proper university until 1965.

    • @user-gs9tb4tl4d
      @user-gs9tb4tl4d Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah yeah 🤡🤭

  • @spaceman3709
    @spaceman3709 Před 2 lety +7

    The themes I really want to be discussed like this:
    Is obesity a disease or not?!
    Are men more powerful than women?!
    Should uniforms be compulsory at school or not?!

    • @user-if8tg1or7m
      @user-if8tg1or7m Před 2 lety

      men are not more powerful than women, men are just physically stronger

    • @santiagoossa2301
      @santiagoossa2301 Před 2 lety

      If you say biologically, yeah, men are more powerful than women, scientifically proven, testosterone just makes you strong af, to the level where women pro sports teams can get beaten by hs sports men teams

    • @amaanullah13
      @amaanullah13 Před 2 lety

      All is Yes
      But the last one needs special attention

    • @dreamerachiever576
      @dreamerachiever576 Před rokem

      @@amaanullah13 And please research before concluding men are more powerful than women, puerility suits on children not on people who are capable of using youtube.

    • @amaanullah13
      @amaanullah13 Před rokem

      @@dreamerachiever576 who said men are more powerful than women?
      Are you even understanding what topic is being discussed here?

  • @vasvijain
    @vasvijain Před rokem +24

    I would to add to Eisa's statements:
    On one hand he said atrocities are done by the 'person itself' and religion always is not involved in genocides. He also mentioned how suicide rates are high in south korea because 'its non religious'.
    I see that as a contradiction of his own point that the fault lies with 'the person itself' and high suicide rates mostly has nothing to do with religion. Scandinavia too is non religious, no where in the top most suicidal countries.
    Also, he said that people who are grateful to something are kind of a 'religion itself' which is true in its sense. My point would have been that yes, thats the point. We do not need everyone following the same rules. We need everyone to have their own religion.
    As for the community part, it is true that religion helps to form groups. But Alyne's point is very valid here that if religions are so loving of everyone, even the people of other religions and non religious people, Alyne shouldn't have been excluded from her community. True that the topic they used to talk about would not be the same, but they could have kept in touch with her even if she found a different faith.
    As for when Eisa said religion evolves with people, well I do not think anyone would have the balls to alter the verses Alyne mentioned and correct their holy texts to keep up with evolving times. Yeah, you can say that people no longer follow it, but that doesnt mean that it is not a part of the text (till it is removed) and some people can be misguided to hate others based on those verses and texts, by reading it on their own, or by 'taking it out of context' as most people say to defend such verses. Well, yes everyone has their own way of interpretation, as it is their right, but can we atleast put some footnotes in such misleading verses saying 'please dont take it as face value, rest how you want to interpret is your choice.'
    Also, mind you religion was always started by one person only, which proves my point that everyone should have their own religion. Those who liked the person's way of life applied it onto their own which is very much fine, but you can't say that if someone does not apply anyone else's way of life and beliefs, they should follow it anyway. Yes, they should respect your beliefs, but please so respect ours too. We do not need an already written set of rules to live our lives with morality. We can figure out our own morality.
    Now do not say your morality is wrong, because in the modern day world, most of the things labelled 'crime' im religions are already punishable by law, and that is the morality we need all need to follow, in addition to our own set of morals.
    I think religion should become more like laws, getting amended time to time (only the questionable verses). I am sure if that happens, everyone is going to be religious one day. Atleast I would be, gladly. 😀

    • @mehmetadi2872
      @mehmetadi2872 Před rokem +4

      I don't read your comment entirely. Because long text. But actually religion is a law. Do and don't

    • @FaisalKhan-md2tj
      @FaisalKhan-md2tj Před rokem +1

      Actually there was a study done on the number of suicides done by people of various faiths and also atheism. You could check that out.

    • @dreamerachiever576
      @dreamerachiever576 Před rokem +1

      @@FaisalKhan-md2tj And there is also common knowledge that atheist in this world are relatively less. Moreover check the oppression done by religious people especially abrhamic ones, you will realize that their entire history is based on blood.

    • @vasvijain
      @vasvijain Před rokem

      @@mehmetadi2872 Yeah and that's great, but I said religion is a law then it should be amended from time to time.

    • @vasvijain
      @vasvijain Před rokem

      @@FaisalKhan-md2tj Yes I found that, and I think that's very sad that in some areas atheist suicides very high. However, the article mentions that it does not correlate. Direct quote "Although religion is reported to be protective against suicide, the empirical evidence is inconsistent."
      I think the reason for that could be the existence of 'nihilists'.

  • @5-june
    @5-june Před rokem +2

    I dont know about judaism and other religion but i am very happy being a muslim. Islam is not a religion its a way of life. Its deen

  • @parigull
    @parigull Před rokem +2

    We also want to vote for it if necessary then💚 and if not then ❤️

  • @diptisingh4921
    @diptisingh4921 Před 2 lety +4

    It was so good to watch. I would say I m convinced by both of them. Both are right at their points. But Alyne seems to be fed by strict rules. What exactly I do is that I take good things from all the religions leaving behind wrong things mentioned in religious texts. Ppl are not actually following religions. They just show they are religious but they are not. They are extremist and follow things without any logic. For example, I m a hindu and I have been with muslims ppl but aunties were so conservative that they didn't use to allow their kid to celebrate hindu festivals, that's wrong. But I also have one muslim close frnd who celebrate all our festivals with happiness.

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      i love to talk about it,
      why not start a discussion/conversation ...?
      let's just start with small part of topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....

  • @funwrite3636
    @funwrite3636 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey!! Nas this video was amazing

    • @NasDebates
      @NasDebates  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much!
      Let us know what else you wanna see!

  • @yes4salman
    @yes4salman Před rokem +4

    For religion :.
    Religion gave us everything from beginning...when the ppl has no morals...religion gave it ...
    When there was no law ....religion gave it...
    In the dark ages ...women was not respected ...so it's the religion which gave women respect ... protection ....
    For the concept of hell ....for every law enforcement there is a threat ....a thing which is not seen as a good sign for example like jail/ fine...etc...

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      i love to talk about it,
      why not start a discussion/conversation ...?
      let's just start with small topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....

    • @zombiexdgamer2777
      @zombiexdgamer2777 Před rokem +1

      But beliefs ruined the definition the unite thing is what we needed but it’s important if we learn science too learn how something was made or created

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      @@zombiexdgamer2777 beliefs didn't able to unite humanity except destroying ech other not nourishing each other.

  • @kashvikhandelwal2079
    @kashvikhandelwal2079 Před rokem +10

    Please debate on education system around the world and how we need a better version of them.

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      do you like to have debate/conservation on here with me?

    • @kashvikhandelwal2079
      @kashvikhandelwal2079 Před rokem

      @@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude yes sure!!

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      @@kashvikhandelwal2079lucky to have you.
      do you have discord or skype?
      --------------------------------------------------------------
      let's just start with small part of topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....
      okay/right?

    • @kashvikhandelwal2079
      @kashvikhandelwal2079 Před rokem

      Yes sure discord

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      @@kashvikhandelwal2079 Question OurIgnorance#4630
      ----------------------------------------------------------
      lets start Journey of All Questions

  • @explore_islam
    @explore_islam Před rokem +3

    We want part 2 of this debate

  • @sustentofila
    @sustentofila Před 2 lety +40

    Alyneee, louder for the people in the back! Great debate, loved it. #teamnotnecessary

  • @potsuaye69
    @potsuaye69 Před rokem +30

    for me i think religion is necessary for when you are lost, there are many life compasses that can guide a person, the destination depends on the compass but the journey depends on the person. And many people like to believe in simple things like supernatural beings whose powers and existence can't be proven but is still believed to be there, so in short, yes religion is necessary

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      shall we talk about it?
      do you have discord or skype?

    • @zehraabbasnaqvi6589
      @zehraabbasnaqvi6589 Před rokem +3

      That doesn't make it "necessary" you're probably trying to treat it like a leisure for time pass lol

    • @stellasolaria6224
      @stellasolaria6224 Před rokem +5

      I got lost because of the religion itself and now I regrets being in a religious family. My life is turned in a hell not really because of family forcing any religious practices on me but because of not really being able to live up to the teaching of the religious guidance and scriptures. Now, I believe hindu God exist but that they hate me and cause I don't want to know (in other way keep it in mind and get more depressed in my already depressed state) that God hates me, I thoroughly ignore them and my religion now to give a bit more approval and allowance to myself.

    • @nisrinmussa5374
      @nisrinmussa5374 Před rokem

      i agree

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem +1

      @@zehraabbasnaqvi6589 religion is always for time pass because unintelligent humans always need some strong hope from others they can easily get by that

  • @ChrisDAndrealifestyledesign

    I thought Alyne had a stronger argument

  • @sevdaghaffari837
    @sevdaghaffari837 Před 2 lety +5

    These kind of things are helping people to get more information. You can see every points of a thought that how it's good or bad and how it can change from a person to another one. Anyway, I just want to say that it was so useful and I really enjoyed, l hope you make other videos like this.Thank you so much. 🙏❤❤

  • @binodchand6989
    @binodchand6989 Před rokem +12

    What's important is we should stay positive either following the religion or not. Both points are valid. Nice debate. 👍

  • @asverse3392
    @asverse3392 Před 8 měsíci +6

    India : We don't need religion we have dharma !

  • @muhamadibnusina
    @muhamadibnusina Před rokem +1

    Nice debate, i was well engaged with the discussions, especially with the spokeperson who speak by reference and data.
    The decision is by ourselves, but if you mind, let's see surrounding us and contemplate who is the creator of all of these.
    Thank you, Nas Debates.

  • @bhavyapal
    @bhavyapal Před rokem +33

    6:38 Actually the first university in the world is the Takshashila university in present day pakistan. It was founded in 10th century BC and was a major university . It was very famous and people from all around the world came to study at the university.

    • @dakshmathur5692
      @dakshmathur5692 Před rokem +2

      Yeah , this is true .

    • @godfatherrusso645
      @godfatherrusso645 Před rokem +2

      Yeh

    • @muizHD
      @muizHD Před rokem +6

      False it was a Muslim women who made the first university in the world

    • @chillbruh3010
      @chillbruh3010 Před rokem +3

      @@muizHD no broh
      You have false information
      This university artifacts are still present over there

    • @muizHD
      @muizHD Před rokem +2

      @@chillbruh3010 stay mad he literally said it in the video

  • @simplybetter6881
    @simplybetter6881 Před rokem +5

    Religion is necessary

  • @user-mw7fq3iv9u
    @user-mw7fq3iv9u Před rokem

    For me both of them are correct on a right way, I think every point of view come from how we define things and how we looking them!!

  • @CubingComplished
    @CubingComplished Před rokem

    This is truly one of the videos!

  • @radradco
    @radradco Před 2 lety +6

    We need religion.. but not because of belief of higher power, it really is about the pillars that religion has provided us. --Yoga, Meditation, Basic Right and wrong, amongst other things, traditions, culture, and community.
    Does religion need to be updated? Heck yes. When religion was created they didn't account the internet and technology..
    As long as you're doing good.. whatever you might believe in then go for it.

    • @dreamhunter2973
      @dreamhunter2973 Před rokem +2

      But sadly my friend, religion won't be updated....yes, religion has helped humanity in a sort in the past....but in the current era... religion will not survive unless it changes drastically. Conservative people will never allow religion to change even slightly....And if religion change, it won't be religion...😌😌😌

    • @radradco
      @radradco Před rokem

      @@dreamhunter2973 We don't need to change the current religion ofcourse that'll take massive effort and energy to do so, what we can do is innovate on what we have now..
      I see religion as technology. -- it's mental technology. and it's ripe for innovation. Just like the education system is seeing massive shifts because of technology religion might not be too far off.
      It used to be frowned upon to do your praises online, but with the pandemic, it has now become the norm.
      The Church (I speak for Catholicism because I am one.) you see churches peruse such tech to empower. I've seen girls serve. it won't be long that we might see women priests. Granted we might not see it at this time, --but I hope sooner than later...
      An open mind with an open heart can change things.

    • @dreamhunter2973
      @dreamhunter2973 Před rokem +1

      @@radradco well the church was the ones who opposed science at first.....but no..I don't think religion will change simply because the conservatives in any religion will not allow it to change...
      For example, when the pope supported the LGBTQ community, he was frowned upon..... Same goes for other religions..... But I do believe the an open mind can do a lot.... And to open it we need to think liberaly... without having to think about the variables of religion

    • @radradco
      @radradco Před rokem

      @@dreamhunter2973 It's a long ardious process definitely. it's worthy to pursue. all it takes is a new generation of openminded church leaders.. and with rapid changes in tech and the quick spread of ideas.. it won't be long.. may be in 100 to 200 years?

    • @dreamhunter2973
      @dreamhunter2973 Před rokem +1

      It is worthy.... And if religious people become more open minded, they the chances of them leaving their religion is high😂😂... And I honestly don't think that any religion will survive in the next 100-200 years....🤣🤣😌😌😌😏😏

  • @ganeshjogur5071
    @ganeshjogur5071 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow the lady was too good for him to deal with. No need of religion only humanity and spirituality.

  • @mudra4227
    @mudra4227 Před rokem

    “The Crown and the Faith are the twin pillars upon which the world rests.” -Tommen Baretheon

  • @tanushagarwal6975
    @tanushagarwal6975 Před rokem +2

    I do not believe in religion but I believe that God exists and the only thing he wants is for us to be good, to be compassionate

  • @farhaanspeaks
    @farhaanspeaks Před 2 lety +5

    We humans don't know what to do in this life that's why we have religion a path to live our life without religion we people are purposeless
    God is the creator he created us and gave us free will to do whatever we want to do but the best one is the one who submits his/her will infront of god

    • @fitnesscat761
      @fitnesscat761 Před 2 lety

      Yeah I agreed with you and I think alyne is atheist ⚛️

    • @alexaaa12
      @alexaaa12 Před 2 lety +1

      Then what's th difference between god and dictator?

    • @unaispukayoor3948
      @unaispukayoor3948 Před 2 lety

      True

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      do we need religion to believe in god/creator?
      i think not .... if yes than why?

    • @farhaanspeaks
      @farhaanspeaks Před rokem

      @@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude We know that man is a social animal. Every man depends upon millions of people for his life and its necessities. Also we know that every society needs some laws to prevent injustice and preserve the rights of every member of the society. But who is the right authority to make the Law? One man (be he a monarch or a dictator)? No! Because he, instinctively, will look, first of all, after his own interest. A group of people (be it an aristocracy or democracy)? No! Because every one of them is capable of wrong judgment; and a lot of wrong decisions do not add up to a right decision.

  • @kashtishorts7799
    @kashtishorts7799 Před 2 lety +4

    Anyone here who wants him to support the save soil movement. Well, i want to! Because soil is the most important thing in our environment and it's losing its organic content day by day.. soil is on its way to become sand. All the UN agencies are saying this. For this we have a save soil movement, please support it nas.

  • @janeselby3555
    @janeselby3555 Před 11 měsíci +1

    In like April a boy called Eesa sounds the same as Eisa died in my school aged 8 and he had 2 years of reception and this week we had a service for him. Im not in his year or class im older but its really sad.😢😢😢😢😢

  • @kaishoribillore1603
    @kaishoribillore1603 Před rokem

    I totally agree with Alyne.... I'm not saying that we should not follow our religions , but that that it's not at all "necessary" to practice them. The one who believes and wants can follow and the one who don't , don't have to.

  • @shadmanigat2232
    @shadmanigat2232 Před 2 lety +29

    As an atheist ⚛️ i agree with the girls more.
    Basically science (biology, sociology, archeology, history, and more)prove religion ☯️ is just a myth

    • @nashal148
      @nashal148 Před 2 lety +1

      So did you created from nothing or did you create your self ?

    • @shadmanigat2232
      @shadmanigat2232 Před 2 lety +9

      @@nashal148 if i don't have this answer , that's automatically mean the answer is your God? How you proved that.
      There is a lot of questions that science is working on actually to find an answer or not.
      That's doesn't mean your answer is the good answer, you have to prove, demonstrates, that your answer it true

    • @shadmanigat2232
      @shadmanigat2232 Před 2 lety +5

      @@nashal148 how many stars is in the sky? No one know for sure yet,
      May be one day we may or may not know the answer,
      Respond to a question doesn't mean you have the right answer, prove it that its true, that is what science do ,

    • @540_sw3
      @540_sw3 Před 2 lety

      You don't need science to determine weather religion is nessesary. You need logic and historical evidence . Study All the religions and where they came from and you will find the answers . All religions are fake and they made them for the same purposes .

    • @satyaa_x
      @satyaa_x Před 2 lety +3

      @@shadmanigat2232 in india people fight with each other because of religion and those politicians divided them and rule... I'm hindu but i still hate when people just being dumb and only do god god god

  • @mhdtfcy
    @mhdtfcy Před rokem +13

    I agree with Eisa, that religion is necessary, not only does it give meaning, it gives satisfaction & peace. Which we all need. It makes us feel secure, because we always know that there is someone above to protect us & guide us, to teach us important lessons & to punish us when it’s right. I love religion a lot. Because I know Allah (s.w.t) is there to protect & guide me. And that’s what I’m grateful for ❤️

    • @gamerdude7800
      @gamerdude7800 Před rokem +2

      God doesn't exist tho

    • @greyshadow5575
      @greyshadow5575 Před rokem +1

      @@gamerdude7800 W

    • @vaishanthjv2519
      @vaishanthjv2519 Před rokem +4

      so basically, lie to ppl to give them comfort. got it

    • @fxf_playz
      @fxf_playz Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@gamerdude7800God is more true than your life dawg 💀

    • @silverxeniel5173
      @silverxeniel5173 Před 6 měsíci

      If giving meaning, peace , and satisfaction is the reason that makes religion necessary then there are a lot of things that can replace it. Meaning RELIGION IS NOT NECESSARY it can be replaced if what you seek is meaning, pleasure, and peace. But I do agree it is helpful if you are an indecisive person and lost in life.

  • @PrincessJustKaito.97
    @PrincessJustKaito.97 Před rokem

    This debate have left me with happiness so much. Gotta watch more so Nas Team create some more.☺👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤

  • @armygaming2246
    @armygaming2246 Před rokem +1

    this subject of debate wil never end till the world gets distroyed

  • @ared4824
    @ared4824 Před rokem +11

    She just dominated this debate, he just talked about abstract stuff and than when he saw he was losing the debate changed the topic attacking her saying that she thinks that all religions are bad when she never said that.

    • @MrA-ir3me
      @MrA-ir3me Před rokem

      This guy is a hypocrite POS especially since he follows Islam which is a malignant tumor in any productive society. As an ex-Shia muslim minority, we were told to hate Sunnis and Sunnis were taught to hate us. We also hated all the people who are different. Fk Mohamed and Islam.

    • @sh.6105
      @sh.6105 Před rokem +1

      So I would like to state that the boy here (I'm not going to use any of their names) didn't really get the point across. So I believe religion is very necessary as he said many times but he forgot to state many facts . For example in Islam women are cherished and protected. Hijab (a cloth that covers a women's hair and neck area) has given more freedom to us while people are assuming we are oppressed I am actually free from the darkness of today's society. What do hijabs protect us from ? So most people Muslims or non Muslims think that everyone should be looked at for more than just their looks which has been made hard because of today's beauty standards but then our beautiful religion comes and protects us from for example assault
      So next I would like to talk about how the girl kept mentioning that she was in a religion for sum what years so I feel terrible that she felt like she didn't belong in her community but that doesn't mean that it's religions fault it is the fault of those who were around her.
      Islam and other religious have rules that shouldn't be broken however it is made clear that those who do not sin aren't human so basically we all make mistakes what's beautiful is that our God gives us hope that mistakes don't define a person
      So lastly everything that has been forbidden is actually very bad for us
      Examples:drinking , dating(causes heart break and depression)
      Thank you for reading my comment if you do not agree please reply with kindness I only wrote this in hopes of people understand how beautiful and peaceful Islam is.
      Side note (I respect all people whether they follow a religion or not )

    • @icy_fire4080
      @icy_fire4080 Před rokem

      @@sh.6105 Bruh dating causes marrage, if there is no marrage then no children, so humans wiped out of the planet
      And I'm non relegious but I have a purpose in life (be succesful and happy and support my family) even without needing god.

  • @unmaskingtruthophobes7729

    As a practicing Christian, i agree with some points of that girl...

  • @dishaadrita1788
    @dishaadrita1788 Před rokem

    I really loved that guy. It was very fun to watch. Alyne was so confident

  • @Cby_rl
    @Cby_rl Před 3 měsíci +1

    May christ show the world how God is needed during the second coming 🙏

  • @nesussy1948
    @nesussy1948 Před rokem +4

    pretty obvious she won every arguments

  • @micaellacatunao-beauty0
    @micaellacatunao-beauty0 Před rokem +45

    Both of them have a point. Life should be balanced.

  • @christinagialama5055
    @christinagialama5055 Před rokem

    Great debate!In favour of "religion being unnecessary" I would add that people who have power and authority due to religion often abuse their power,for example,they go hand-to-hand with politicians(and I truly believe that religion and politics shouldn't cooperate they are separate entities),they are also able to hide many crimes or they're not fairly judged and also make a ton of money just for preaching for God and do ceremonies whereas if there wasn't for religion they would be nothing

  • @maxmudbekjalilov52
    @maxmudbekjalilov52 Před rokem +1

    Alyne only saying herself from her 27 years experience,but there are billions of people who are still religious more than 30years and they are still happy with his life , their actions and religion

  • @israhashim7136
    @israhashim7136 Před rokem +13

    I agree with the guys opinion more though I respect Alyne’s. Religion IS still necessary because it unites people more than cultures. It has stronger sense of purpose which is what us humans need. Although yes I respect people who chose not to be religious regardless it is still important to have in the society.

    • @user-wu3td8qu6y
      @user-wu3td8qu6y Před rokem +1

      nahh people can live normal lives without it.

    • @israhashim7136
      @israhashim7136 Před rokem +1

      @@user-wu3td8qu6y your opinion :)

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      i love to talk about it,
      why not start a discussion/conversation ...?
      let's just start with small topic,
      how about you will question me and i will answer.
      I will question you and you will answer....

  • @ashwanthvinod5190
    @ashwanthvinod5190 Před rokem +14

    “With or without religion,good people can behave well and bad people can do evil"
    But sometimes good people do bad things because of religion

    • @IAmRoyalty-ng1kw
      @IAmRoyalty-ng1kw Před rokem +5

      Am religious but i agree. But also bad people can be good because of religion, i've seen it.

    • @manzurramen6117
      @manzurramen6117 Před rokem

      but those people ultimately have that choice to choose to do the bad thing.

    • @namesurname3962
      @namesurname3962 Před rokem

      You can never do something bad BECAUSE of religion, the thing religion does is gives us the directions to bad and good and the correct religion can never make its followers do bad things because of something it said.
      How do you expect people to know what good and bad is based on their mind? There should be a users mannual, something to show us how to live life according to the moral proncips.

    • @ashwanthvinod5190
      @ashwanthvinod5190 Před rokem

      @@namesurname3962 What about the people who kill other people because of something said in their religion.Religion should never be used to decide what is right and what is wrong

    • @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude
      @UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Před rokem

      religion is just too stupid to rely for to do good

  • @antreaslouca726
    @antreaslouca726 Před rokem +2

    How? Alyne was more convincing and countering every argument impeccably. Oh well it is what it is. Sometimes we lose, sometimes we win.

  • @mangost2008
    @mangost2008 Před rokem

    my opinion is that: it was necessary for early europe and such to keep them united, but now that the science is there and its possible to scientifically discover things religion should be kept to personal matters