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BATTLE OF THE BUTTON LOCKS! CJRB Pyrite, Ekko, Civivi Qubit
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2023
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I picked up the qubit last weekend, totally blown away. Civi absolutely figured something out. It's soooo smooth and feels good.
I ordered the CJRB Pyrite a few days ago, aluminum body, finger flipper. I'm so impressed by it. It was on sale too, 20% off on amazon and got it for $40.00. Totally blown away by it.
Like you, I had many of the previous generation button locks - civi, kizer, etc... Missing the Malibu still but it's really hard to justify the price tag with out AMAZING the pyrite and quibit are.
I'm so impressed by this generation of button locks. Good shit man.
Right on man glad you’re happy with your purchases!
The Wharnie Pyrite is getting a titanium contoured version with S90V and fat carbon VIA a new kickstarter campaign. I got one with purple haze.
Oooo that sounds amazing!
@@doodysdaggers yeah man, as a Pyrite lover I would totally say go for it. If you back the premium ones you get a good discount from retail.
The Ekko is 2nd only to the Civivi Conspirator in my opinion. New here, Cole sent me. Tristates Mustache Rules All Tuesdays! 😂
The Pyrite is so aesthetic though
I agree. I like this video because you can tell he is saying that none of them are bad knives. Just gotta pick which one speaks to you.
I'm a big fan of the Civivi Altus actually. The ergos are fantastic for my hand, and the action is great. The button was a little bit sticky at first, but got smooth after using it for a while.
Under-rated knife!
I actually prefer a button lock since I'm a lefty. I'm still waiting on the perfect one. Great video!
I’ve had great luck with the full ti pyrite and the ss ekko.( the ekkos button isn’t as smooth as the pyrite * on mine * but the front flipper is on point with the ekko.)
I love the Ekko, but if you want something a little bit pricier, look at some of the Hogue flippers. Nothing but quality from Hogue.
The pyrite in any blade is the best knife on the table.
IDK, man. The Qubit is pretty great
Qubit all day. Lightet, better steel, better blade profile.Comfier handle, Cuts better, flies out. Check the cut test.
I had a benchmade sbk5000 in my front pocket one day at home depot. I was using one of their tube steel 9 step ladders, and within a few hours I had rubbed a massive groove into the grip scales. That developed into a problem with the spring assist because the grip pannel has a pocket machined in it for the assist spring. Since that day I have avoided knives with aluminum grips. Im sure its an awesome knife though if your not having that problem.
I wanted to like the qubit, but murdered out isn't my style, and the other two options are bright red and bright blue. I've decided for the moment on the WMK pyrite-alt with frag pattern aluminum scales. should drop soon. I actually prefer 14c to rpm9, or nitro v, b/c of tougnness/non-chippiness. I want to not have to worry about using a blade for cutting stuff harder than cardboard, stupid stuff, and whether it would micro chip across the blade. So to me the perfect button lock would be the pyrite-alt w. frag aluminum scales, in 14c.
Yeah I didn’t like those bright colors either.
That frag version looks amazing!! I’ll be super tempted to grab one 🤠
I've actually bought the qubit and love it! Its not at all a robust blade its more of a precision blade since it is really thin behind the edge and all the way up to the spine of the blade. I would be worry because of the thin blade to use it on harder stuff.
@@nicolaspiquette972 yeah absolutely!! It’s a freakin slicer for sure!
@@doodysdaggers yeah and to add to your description in the video the hook in the blade of the qubit is actually a bottle opener and it work great!
Great video I really hope they do the wornclife in the large version pyrite I have the drop point large pyrite all steel ones and i love It I wish more budget knives came out in steel handles
Can’t go wrong with any of these and we still spend $300 on other knives 😂.
I'm not really into button locks but I did just order the new Kizer xl original in frag pattern titanium.
Oooo I’m jealous of that one! It looks very nice
These are nice!!!!
14c superior… much tougher steel. Great steel for such a thin blade on the Quibit. I have three of the four. All but the black one ..LoL
Great video break down, I was looking at the pyrite up to now, but you make some compelling reasons for the qubit. Thanks for sharing. 😂
Might have to get both, they’re all so good 😉
@@doodysdaggers So true, and Im sure I will end up with both ... Grr ... lol 🙌🙌
Can't wait to try CPM AR RPM9👍.
Civivi 9cr17mov always performs really well in cut testing. And that lines up with my experiences with my 9cr Civivi Praxis.
I love 9cr17mov as a budget steel, a powdered version of this sounds really intriguing. Powdered 9cr17mov yes please👍 thank you Artisan Cutlery!!!!
I think you’ll really like it! I have been very impressed
8:24 that's the type of thing I would expect to see when let'sin some category in the blade show. Such a wow cool blade.
You're right that these companies have upped their game in the button lock area. Now they released a button lock QSP Penguin as well.
Was very impressed with the Pyrite - beautifully balanced knife with the thumb studs. I also like the Vosteed Valkyrie.
Nobody really talks about the comfort of the buttons though. I find the Civivi indented buttons get tiring after a while and I have to deploy the button with the side of my nail, not the meat of my thumb. Kizer and CJRB though, a lot more comfortable.
Personally I haven’t found any of the buttons to be uncomfortable, but I do have thick callouses on my hands.
I saw that Penguin button lock! No knife is safe from the button lock craze! 🤠
@@doodysdaggers Indeed. And crazy thing is, some of the budget ones are just as compelling if not more than the Protech :B
@@G-Man01 yeah it’s crazy! It wasn’t always that way.
The best feeling button in my experience has been on the Begleiter XL. The button is smooth and huge and just a pleasure to use. I find the button on the Cormorant to be somewhat uncomfortable after a day of fidgeting, due to the checkering on the button. Same with the Hic-Cup.
@@Stahlwerk88 that’s one that I haven’t tried yet! Hmm.. guess I need to
Looking at the texture you added helped me know what not to do. I will either buy a drill press and do dimples or use a belt sander to add texture. Maybe both. I thought about using an angle grinder but after seeing your results, I wont be doing that. Thankyou for the info.
Yep no problem!
I have a few button locks. My $80 pyrite titanium has the smoothest feel and action. Smoother than my +$200 Weknife
I hear you on the Pyrite's opening action, but what about the closing action? I cant stand how the blade bounces back out a cpl times before closing properly. Vosteed IMO has the superior action because they nailed it all the way around, open and close. Not sure what they are doing different but the action is completely different. Just a shame some of them seem to have issues. I heard they've fixed it since and the newer releases don't have the issue.
BTW, how did you cut the lines in your steel Pyrite scales. I think it looks pretty good fwiw.
It doesn’t bounce if you just let go of the button at the right time, same with all of these button locks. The closing action with all these is super nice and smooth.
I used a dremel with a tiny cutoff wheel to cut the grooves. Not perfect at all, but from a distance it looks good. And it provides good grip, these stainless steel versions are awesome but a little slippery. 🤠
Kizer Original action is open and closing is damn near perfect. At least on my sample.
@@T_D_B_ guess I gotta try one
Just ordered a laser etched quibit for my dad for fathers day, so I'll have a chance to check it out and see how it compares to my conspirator. I don't think he is really a knife guy but we will see if maybe having something like this will change that. I don't have nearly as many buttonlocks as you but have been enjoying my conspirator as a user knife, although I seem to keep rolling the nitro-v. It gets nice and sharp, but maybe it's a little soft for my usage (cutting some softer plants in the garden). Going to be a good knife to practice my KME sharpening skills on.
It likely won't be as snappy as the qubit, but have you tried the knife center exclusive conspirator? Same style black aluminum handles as the qubit, but blade is S35vn. I have one and the action is better than the regular version, detent is about the same though. However I like the mircarta handle and the titanium deep carry clip I ordered for $15 on etsy for my regular conspirator, so I'll probably just put most of the wear and tear on my original. Then again, they are both pretty cheap compared to my spydercos so they would both make great heavy use knives.
I think I prefer well designed flipper tab to thumb studs in general, but the conspirator has that nice groove in it so it's nice and fidgety too. I agree the detent could be a bit stronger. Keep up the great reviews. Definatly looking for am edc use knife with a bottle opener. I don't typicaly carry keys anymore, and I do have a spiderco clippy tool standard, but a simple slicy blade with a bottle opener sounds perfect. I'll jave to wait and see if a special version comes out.
I have not tried the aluminum Conspirator. That’s interesting, I was curious if they were going to change anything to make the action better. Too bad about the detent though, I wish it was super snappy. I do love aluminum handles though, and the Conspirator is a great overall design.
I hope your dad likes the Qubit! 🤠
@@doodysdaggers Got the quibit for my Dad, yep, it's snappy! I opened it to change the clip to the straight titanium one. However I was pleasently suprised that the stock clip felt so much better than my other civivis. I think it's going to stay as it offers great retention and does not feel flimsy and cheap like my other civivi knives. I actually like the stock deep carry clip on this model for once. I will be picking one of these up if they come out with some exclusives or special edditions. It's much lighter than the special eddition conspirator, I mean it's smaller sure, but I think allot of the weight reduction is because although the scales are very similar, the conspirator still uses steel liners. I wonder if the linerless knife is part of the changes impacting the action.
@@JFlywheel yeah totally! It’s great. I really like the new clip they’re using too. I used to complain about the old Civivi clips all the time. So much better!
Love the scales on the pyrites, I have the micarta in their propriety steal.
I own only a couple button locks, because of the inconsistency. The early CIVIVI’s we’re not good.
Hopefully they have found the Pro Tech recipe.
A Pyrite and Ekko arrived yesterday. We’ll give them a go-over.
You’ll like them. Miles better than the first Civivis
Similar experience here... Sencut button lock sucked. Completely deterred me from the brand. My Quibt is good but not great. I like the Pyrite "lock feel" (is that a thing?) better. Better still, is the Kizer Original! Especially the larger "XL" version in micarta. Light, smooth action, perfect lock, and great blade.
Kizer button locks are my favorite budget brand. The Original is almost perfect. My Assassin is still one of my favorites even though no one mentions it anymore. My Hiccup is good but not great. The plunge detent on mine is a little heavy, which makes the reverse flick a bit rough. Love my Kizers.
@@T_D_B_ I have tried an Original yet, I really need to. The few Kizer button locks I’ve tried, I didn’t like how far the button sticks out. Maybe the Original is different. I do like the design.
The detent feel is similar to the Qubit? If it is I’m sure I’ll love it
@@T_D_B_ you know, I forgot about the Kizer Original. Well, I have that one as well. And yes, it’s a good one. I’ve thought about getting the XL.
The Original XL is phenomenal. Get the micarta version, no question. It’s so good, and weighs nothing.
Thanx for the video and need to get one of these pyrites ...Have you handled the Sencut Arcblast?
No Kizer Original XL? Why no love for the best budget button lock around? 😮😊
Haven’t got around to it yet! I plan to though, I like that one
I own the pyrite wharny and the qubit and it’s a daily battle between which one I carry, ekko is next on my list and a drop point pyrite is on the way!
Just ordered the xl g10 pyrite 3.8 ounces 3.7 inch still as thin blade profile
Yes very nice! The blade is so nice and thin. You’ll love how well it cuts 🤠
I have a launch eight switch blade with aluminum handles anodized. I’m so afraid to hold it I don’t want to wear through.
It’s pretty tough stuff, you should be fine 👍
The large Button Lock Elementum is the best and not in your lineup?
I’m not a big fan of the Elementum, but maybe I should try it
@@doodysdaggers,… the big one, not the small Elementum. I don’t like the edge retention (lack thereof) of Civivi’s 14c28n but the blade geometry of the hollow grind on that blade is greatness.
I have 4 (including the quibit) civivi's and the drop point to pyrite and the elementum2 and mini praxis are my two favorites followed by the baby banter (it's tiny but once you have it you get it).. the quibit is my least favorite. I'm surprised you like it that much
Oh and the little cut put is a bottle opener
Gotta pick you up the CJRB Feldspar button lock.
Gosh I know…had my eye on that for a while. I’ll grab it sometime 😉
I can't read "Feldspar" with hearing it in Beez Blade voice.
Pyrite 2 me. Better kitchen cutter. Better choil. Longer cut length. Better aesthetics. Better steel imo. Pyrite comes in pink G10. And I like that. Honestly, I think the Pyrite ergonomics mimic the PM2 which I like.
Nice those are great looking knives!!!
Have you had a chance to try out any of the Sencut models? Maybe the Sachse, Crowley, or Serene?
I’m haven’t!
I really need the WarnC version with thumb studs or a flipper or both :)
Fidget has more to it than simply if the blade settings free... momentum and ability to be activated rhythmically is the key you are missing
Excellent comparison!
I had to modify my ekko about a day after I got it we had that weird rounded off tip so I filed the end down to match the Pyrite Warrencliffe . I knew I was going to have to take my time and not over heat the tip . but dang man That was the hardest Steel ever tried to work on
Good idea! Might do the same
I would grind off that front flip tab as well. 😉👍
The qubit “hook thing” is actually a bottle opener!
Yeah! Works well too
Maybe I missed it, but who did the crosshatch on the Pyrite Wharnie scales? The only thing I don't like about mine is that the scales are too smooth.
I did! Not perfect, but it definitely provides better grip. If you send me yours I’ll do it for you
@@doodysdaggers You're very kind! I just shot you an email. Thanks!
I really like my Pyrite Large versions. The larger size feels better in my hand over the regular Pyrite. 🤠👍
I’ve never tried the Large, I should
@@doodysdaggers yes if you like larger knifes. I mostly only purchase larger knives in the budget side and mostly button locks as the fidget factor is good. One of my latest purchases is the Begleiter XL from Kizer. It’s green micarta and 154CM larger button lock. It’s a little bit on thick side but otherwise a great knife.
also i bought a cheap Mtech MT-1220 button lock knife with aluminum handles orange color for only 16 dollars lol and it works great for how cheap it is lol i got it so i dont have to use my new CRJB LAGO lol so yeah to poor to use a 53 dollar knife so ill just keep it for looks like the CJRB feldspar lol but i will use that knife at some point maybe lol and man i really wanted the PYRITE but i like to use a thumb flicker thing instead of a thumb stud
I picked the pyrite over the civivi here in seconds. You've got to experience it yourself.
Nice battle.
Try the Sencut Serene button lock.
I have heard it’s great, I’ll see if I can get one
My Damascus Conspirator is Money on its detent. I guess I got lucky idk
Tangram vector started me on button locks
Id love to try that one sometime
I have the Ekko and the Pyrite alt and I think the Ekko is way better. The front flipper is great. Nice cling when you flip it.
Yeah I love the sounds that thing makes
I’m almost certain Ruike makes the Pyrite for CJRB.
Pyrite for the win!
How did you do the texture on the pryrite knife?
With a dremel and cutting wheel
@@doodysdaggers got it thx. I want to get the knife but afraid to do the same texture. I might screw it up
@@Johnny9ers You got it bro
The Civivi may be slightly snappier but in my personal experience and hearing yours as well, I think the Civivi just sounds cheaper compared to the CJRBs.
Whelp, i think I'm gonna buy me an ekko tomorrow. It looks so sick
Do it! You’ll love it 😉
Thanks for the great vid man. It's the Ekko for me. That Cubit is one ugly mother. 🤣
the qubit is really really great. absolute featherweight and super thin bladestock. I generally prefer non-metallic handles though.
The new sheeps-cliffe pyrite in blue gmascus from white mountain is pretty great too.
As far as the detent goes, honestly... You're shilling a little too hard here. All these budget knives vary quite a lot between each sample. I've had a few different samples of several different models. It's just like liner/frame lock inconsistency... some will have good detents, some will have soft detents. My Qubit has a really outstanding detent and my pyrite has a very weak detent. I also have the conspirator, chevalier and several others. The same can be said for all of these knives... Order 5 of the same model and you'll find all the detents will be a little different on each one. None of these knives are doing anything special or different... You're just getting good or bad QC.
I don’t shill my man. Notice I don’t even have links to the knives in the description of this video.
@@doodysdaggers bud, you're video kinda defines shill. It's fine... that's what youtube product reviewers are there for.
Anyway, my point is just that individual unit variation makes some people say the pyrite has bad action or bad detent while others think it's the "best budget knife ever" the same goes for civivi or pick your budget brand.
"act as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others."
"tries to convince other people to buy something or think something is great "
You don't necessarily need to have an economic gain in order for that to apply.
@@squirts1 sure dude
Have you checked out Kizer Hic-cup
Yeah I owned the flipper one for a bit. Not a huge fan
where did you get the scales f
or that pyrite?
It is the stainless steel version, I just cut grooves in it with my Dremel
@@doodysdaggers oh nice that looks good
You need the vorsteed racoon in your Line up
I have one, but it’s one of the first ones that had bad lock failure. I haven’t gotten around to getting a newer one yet, they supposedly fixed the issue
Front flippers make good can openers too. I love front flippers! I love Laconico, I love sheepfoot, so the choice won't be too difficult for me. I'd say the Ekko is barely medium size, the others are borderline minis if you have bigger hands like me (3.75 index finger)
I’m with you! I love front flippers. One of my favorite opening methods! 🤠
@@doodysdaggers oh yeah, good for ocd 🙃 When closed, this metal bit is the perfect beer opener. Better than a lighter !
Spang on!
Spang on brother 🤘
😂
yeah i really want the all black CIVIVI knife so bad it looks great and i herd CIVIVI is a good knife company so i will be getting one hopfully one day
My Malibu sucks, button lock stick (bad) and uneven grind...Im so unhappy with my Malibu, Im embarrassed to carry it...I dont even feel right gifting it out of my collection...My Pyrite is so much better all the way around...even my button lock Elementum....wish I had a better experience with the Malibu, waited so long to score one because they were always sold out..mine is blue aluminum handle, one of the first versions...
Sounds pretty bad, I probably would have send that one back and asked for a different one
Chinese companies would never reverse engineer competitors innovations 😂😂😂😂
In 1981 Ford Motor Company invited 12 Chinese Auto engineer's to take a four-day tour of the Ford stamping plant.
Not sure why Ford chose to do this, but upper management were definitely fully aware the 12 engineers were there to reverse engineer and learn new stamping techniques.
I guess it doesn't really matter because America was 50% to 65% out of business by 1981 and now 99% out of business today😔.
Help Make America Great Again is 40 years too late, it's all over people 🤷 no sense in crying over spilt milk.
As a Gen X citizen I'm barely responsible for the collapse of the US economy.
I know it sounds like I'm passing the buck, but my parents and grandparents were the generations that could have saved this country from chapter 11 not my generation 🤷.
yes sir im new to the knife game and as soon as i seen a button lock i had to have one lol i almost bought a CJRB pyrite last night but i went with the CJRB LAGO instead because of the color of it lol i got the RED handle with black blade lol and i cant wait for it to come in and i also bought the CJRB FELDSPAR like 2 weeks ago and so far thats all the knifes i have lol but im sure ill buy more i would like to buy a CIVIVI soon so will see im so poor i still live with my mom at the age of 36 lol
cant go wrong with either pyrite or qubit. be a man and buy both! :D
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Maybe this is a very good video but as soon as I saw the tattooed hands I stopped and I hit the dislike button. For me it’s disgusting!!!
Great, thanks!
man do a video on the LAGO if you can please and thanks
Love your content brother !!!! Keep it up !
Thanks man!