Dr. Doug Lisle Remembers Dr McDougall + Q & A on the French Paradox, Social Anxiety, Raw Food & More
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Dr. Doug Lisle is an evolutionary psychologist and co-author of The Pleasure Trap: Mastering the Hidden Force that Undermines Health and Happiness. He and his colleagues (Jennifer Howk and Richard Seidel) have developed a revolutionary method for approaching life challenges and improving self-confidence and self-esteem. They describe their approach as Esteem Dynamics - an approach with clinical insights derived from evolutionary psychology.
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Dr Mcdougall should have been awarded the Nobel Prize. He saved so many lives with his work. RIP ❤❤❤❤
Don’t think the Rockefeller’s would approve that.
by getting people to stop eating processed foods? Thats the only thing that got any results. Stopping meat damaged his physical and mental health, he showed signs of dementia and looked like a like he had sarcopenia. Just like Lisle. Completely unnatural diet, no anthropological data supports it at all
I really don’t care what the critics say. I know how my body feels on Dr McDougall’s plan.
The truth is in the pudding ..or in this case - in ‘the potatoes’ 🥔
you only feel better because of the processed foods you stopped eating. It has nothing whatsoever to do with meat. You'll end up deficient and suffering from digestive and mental health disorders if you quit for too long. He looked like he had sarcopenia and showed signs of dementia. The guy was neurotic, clearly diet related. We didnt evolve on the foods he recommended, and we have 3.4 million years of meat eating evidence.. He was a perfect example of why you shouldnt follow his own advise. Check out the interview - An Explosive Interview with Vegan Expert Dr. John McDougall - you really want to take advice from this guy?
He was my favorite dr. RIP Dr. McDougall.
Me too me too!
Check out the interview - An Explosive Interview with Vegan Expert Dr. John McDougall - you really want to take nutrition advice from this guy? His diet is completely unnatural, we didnt not evolve as starchevors
RIP Dr. McDougall. Your work will live on.
hopefully not
Dr. T. Colin Campbell is a model of brilliance and discretion. I met him a few years ago and he was so kind, modest, yet confident in his stance. His kids are great as well.
Do you mean Dr. McDougall?
It takes guts to fight the status quo. It takes guts to go vegan, whole food plant based. That's why Dr McDougall is my hero and inspiration. I have family who don't agree with my choices to raise my children on a wfpb diet. Dr McDougall told the truth and that's all i need.
Your kids are very fortunate to have a mom who is giving them the gift of the WFPB diet and passing on Dr. McDougall wisdom!
@@aquamarine0023 Thank you so much! I really appreciate your encouragement 🙏
Dr. McDougall changed my life. His teachings completely freed me from an eating disorders I suffered from for 20 years. He helped so many people. He is a TRUE HERO. I have been crying all evening since I just found out the news of the loss of this treasure of a human being. Dr. McDougall, you touched so many lives and your love and legacy will live on!!!
He will be greatly missed. He gave my Mom many more healthy years. His 10 day retreat was a life changer for both of us. Sympathy is sent Mary and the family's way from Ontario, Canada
I love the story Doug shared about Dr McDougall coming over to his place on Christmas Eve to tend to his father and take his mother grocrey shopping. Dr McDougall had such Generosity of Spirit ....evident in so many ways including the sharing of recipes and all those newsletters on his website. He was not a Gatekeeper and freely gave so much information out. I attended a 10 day McDougall program in Santa Rosa and shared with him that I'd had a Stage 4 cancer a few years prior. He was not big on chemo... and one of the times I was speaking with him, he asked how I was treated for my rare form of cancer and I shared the protocol. I love that he was an absolute Truth Seeker....lifelong learner. I loved his passion for his work. What a lovely tribute from Dr Lisle. Another giant in his field.... so sharp and observant and fully human in all the ways possible.
We need more Dr. McDougals!!!
His legend is yet to reach a peak. Another great tribute, thanks and my condolences AJ from The Netherlands, Europe.
I must admit, I shed tears learning of Dr McDougall's passing. I watched so many of his seminars over CZcams and first learning of him through Forks Over Knives as well as the doctors that I came to hold in high regard, Dr Lisle included. What a wonderful legacy he has helping people get healthy. I loved the story Dr Lisle had about Dr McDougall visiting his parent on Christmas eve. This really choked me up. AJ, thank you too for bringing so many of your interviews with him to us. Without our health, life is so much more challenging. I thank Dr McDougall for setting the record straight on starches and eating well. All of you are doing such a fantastic job promoting health and well being. Thank you. Dr McDougall was my hero.........
I just learned of Dr. McDougall's passing and I have not been able to stop crying. He is a genuine hero to me - he was a true gift who truly improved the lives of so many people! He was such a treasure and I'm so broken-hearted that he is no longer with us.
McDougall's way of eating-whole foods starch/plant based- was how my husband lost 32 pounds and got off all Rx drugs-statins, blood pressure meds and diabetes drugs.
McDougall died the way I want to die. He stayed 99% cognitively intact, and could wipe his own behind, and then just died without the drama associated with the typical SAD patient. No surgeries, no endless buckets of pills, no disabling and toxic procedures and treatments, no pain, no anguish. Whatever age I die that's how I want to go out. I'm 76 now and I do not care to live to be very OLD!
Yes he lived almost 60 years after that stroke he had at age 18. He helped so many and told people for free how to eat! You didn't need to buy his books but I did-bought them all. RIP Dr John!
What did the Doctor die from ?
He was not old
100 is getting old!
@@PartlySunny74 wasn’t he 77 ? That is not old -my parents and all their friends that are still very social range from to 90 plus and I guarantee none of them are plant based. Nor do they have that strange pale look to them that actually give them a look of not being well.
I never bought his books either, a lot of them could be downloaded online for free anyway. Dr McDougall said once that he will never write another book because people don't read anymore!
@@tisbutaname45, he was in his mental year, 77
God bless Dr. McDoughall, a wonderful human being!
I agree - wish the plant docs could just get along!
I once heard Dr Garth Davis say it was really just minutia they were arguing about but there were more similarities than differences 😊
RIP Dr McDougall 🙏🏻❤️🥔
The French paradox can easily be explained by the difference of death causes recorded in France from other countries. France records heart disease as a cause of death much more rarely and classifies it as a natural death, whereas other countries label the same death as heart disease. So it’s not a difference in the actual rate of heart death but it’s a difference in the rate of accurately recording the cause of death. I read a study on this somewhere.
Dr Greger has a video about this; the French paradox with the sources cited. Hope that helps you find it.
Wow! This misrepresenting heart disease death as ' natural causes' clarifies this question of the erroneous term of French Paradox! Thank you so much for posting !!!
Hey Jeff u wer v.passionate on vegan many yrs ago. Then u quit making videos
Have you gotten into mixed diet
I wd love sm honesty frm u
Regards
@@bhuvaneshwarkumar7152 I’m still 100% low-fat vegan thanks. I’m a McDougaller. 👍😂
That's a really lovely story about Dr McDougall on Christmas eve. His legacy of the lives he saved/improved is what's important xx
Dr. McDougall will be remembered by me as well as many as the most caring, smart and spunky doctor. RIP 🙏
Yes, Dr. McDougall was a hero and will be sorely missed. We need more people like him.
A great tribute to Dr McDougall🙏
We all stand a little taller because of him.
Dr. Lisle is nothing but real genius in reasoning.. His thoughts are perfectly organized manner. To me, he is the best psychologist in the world.
I haven't seen Dr. L for a minute and to me he looks ill. Probably not, just an observation
@@marlenejohnston5472Bad lighting!
Dr. McDougall got me started 14 years ago, firstly vegetarian then 5 years ago the plant based....need more potatoes in me 😊
Where could I send a note of sympathy? How impactful he was in my WFPB journey. Thank you, John McDougall !
Have you heard of “nouvelle cuisine”? I lived in France for twenty years, and I can tell you that the attitude towards food is VERY different than in America. Eating is an art, presentation is important… the portions of rich food eaten in restaurants are much smaller than American restaurant portions. Home cooking is simpler with lots of fruits and vegetables and less processed food. And the rich dishes are “treats” for special occasions and not three times a day fare. Of course this is all changing with the younger generations and the invasion of fast and processed food. But that is what I believe partially explains the “French paradox”, also that meals are consumed in the setting of social occasions with lots of conversation meaning slower eating and more etiquette. You rarely see the French eating in the street or gobbling at their desks.
I lived in France in high school and then worked there as an adult. They appreciate their meals, tend not to snack. Teeny breakfast, hearty lunch eaten at leisure and usually in good company, small supper. The basic raw materials are so luscious and delicious. It is not just what they eat but how they eat. Food and meal times are given high priority. Even a coffee break is taken sitting down, not rushing down the street with a styrofoam or paper cup. School lunches are models of balance and health. Go online and check out the menus for school lunches in Paris!
I will miss Dr. McDougall. Even though I never met him, but I feel like I knew him because of all the information I've seen from him through the years. He greatly shaped my understanding on human nutrition, and now I try to pay it forward and teach my patients.
AJ, Dr. McDougall changed my life for the better, not only with his works, but he also brought you and Dr Lisle into my consciousness and my life has been infinitely better for it. RIP Dr McDougall, and a huge thank you to you and Doug. I don’t know where I would be without you three.
Thank you--we're so happy for your success!
Thank you Chef AJ & Dr Lyle. So appreciate you both. And really appreciate more tributes to the great Dr McDougall ❤
Admired the man, he truly worked to help people. I don’t find strict WFPB works for me, but that’s not necessary to appreciate what he did.
"There went a giant. A heroic giant actually pushed back a veil of ignorance of humanity about diet and health like few people have done."
So thankful for this channel. Thank you for giving Dr. Mcdougall his honor. Praying for his family. I lost my husband on May 8th. The grieving process is still going on. Unfortunately, my husband's health was most likely heart related. We are still waiting on the autopsy results. As much as I tried to help my husband with his diet, restaurants and fast foods were his weakness and indulgence. The pleasure trap is real.
So true, I lost a long time friend because I wanted her to watch Forks over Knives and others. Sent her DR. Barnards diabetes book etc. I just wanted her to get her health improved. She is a nurse working for an insurance company helping patients. She ended up ending our relationship .
That's normal unfortunately. I've had the same. People don't like to be blamed. As a nurse she probably blamed a lot of patients for their illness (smoking, drinking etc) but she never realised the food is also bad.
I tried to help my best friend, but she won’t believe so I stopped teaching to save the friendship. Nevertheless, I sit and watch her hurt herself with the food. It’s sad, but I do still have her friendship near me.
@@8-ec-8sadly my sister who has diabetes asked me to stop sending her this info( didn’t send much) and I have had to back off talking about it to friends who are killing themselves with food.. so sad.,,.
Dr McDougall was my hero, always will be, and my great inspiration for switching to a WFPB lifestyle many years ago. I will always honor his memory and wonderful work that inspired many of us. May he rest in peace.
Dr. Mc Dougall should be remembered as the life saving hero, a genius Dr. that never backdown, he shares his view and vision of what healthy living is, we have no way to thank him for it, it took me 3 weeks to get rid off the horrible pain and constant suffering from severe osteoarthritis, and many other diseases that are gone for good thanks to Dr. John Mc Dougall.
He and Mary granted our family respect and gratitude for ever, and he still deeply misses.
Chef AJ, Wikipedia, can be edited by anyone. Dr McDougall deserves to have his reputation defended. Why not get one of his medical colleagues to edit that article? I'd do it myself, but I would rather defer to a medical doctor, as they have the qualifications to do so. I don't, but I will if no one else does! ❤
Ha! I found that article he wrote called Looking for Health in All the Wrong Places. Will read it later!
There's a difference between arguing and debating. Yes I believe sometimes people that are so similar with differences they can argue yes but a lot of times it's debating.
Dr. McDougall was a very special Dr. in my life and I will be forever grateful that I became serious about his introduction about health over 10 years ago. He changed my life and way of thinking about what to eat to be more healthy. I loved his book about the Starch Solution. I read it cover to cover and then purchased more of his books. He will be missed very much. He and Mary his wife have been a blessing in my life. Thank you to all of his family also.Love all of you!❤❤❤❤
Dr. Lisle some time when I listen to you I ask myself who is going to take the place of a Dr. like you when you’re not here with us any more? there are several Dr. like you so difficult to be replaced, you teach us so well and cover all the angles of why we should eat this way.
Chefs AJ thank you for your work, I can be live with yours shows most of the time but I always catch up later on, you have saved many life with your programs, and I never get tired of watching them all.
I’m sending you, the Doctor’s and friends of the plant base families love and gratitude to you all, for teaching and share with us your knowledge THANK YOU ❤️🤗❤️🤗❤️
The produce in France IS amazing!!
Terrific words from Dr Lisle. Very nice.
It was a great episode AJ 😊
Between honouring Dr McDougall and Dr Lisle's deep explanations around evolution, diet discrepancies between the 'vegan giants' and anxiety, it was a comfort that the vegan world will continue with profound memories of Dr McDougall always in our minds and hearts. I think time will increase the perspective on Dr McDougall's work. I've already written words of praise about Dr McDougall elsewhere in the past few days so I won't repeat myself. Even without knowing Dr McDougall, it still feels like a shock that is kind of not really wearing off. It's a profound thing maybe because Dr McDougall's influence on so many of us has been very personal ❤
He'll be greatly missed...
Ty Dr Lisle for sharing that Xmas Eve story about Dr McDougall. Great Dr that cared for Humanity
He will be greatly missed. RIP.💗
I can listen to Dr. Lisle wind out about anything anytime.
. . . haven't read all these comments, yet I truly feel your sadness at Wikipedia's inaccuracies on Dr McDougall's true greatness...I was under the understanding that it was common knowledge that Wikipedia is not a reliable source of info & that we can go in there and make corrections and/or additions... 🙏
I'm experimenting with a combination of large amounts of fruit and one starch based meal per day. I haven't quite got it working - it needs more refinement. Freelee on 'The Frugivore Diet' channel recommends this type of approach.
Dr Greger has a video somewhere about the french Paradox. It's a misunderstanding of the epidemiology. The french only RECENTLY started eating that way. And the older ppl still eat a more traditional diet that doesn't include all the cheese and higher fat foods. The younger ppl are eating that way so the damage hasn't been fully realized yet. Same thing is happening in Hong Kong. They have great health and ppl point to all the meat they are eating and saying "see meat is good for you" when really the older ppl are still eating traditional diets and it's the young eating all the meat.
Exactly this.
Wikipedia needs to do their homework! Their claims are unsubstantiated, not Dr. McDougalls, which is back by evidence. Those fools!
Heros are not about being popular, they are about honesty and truth! #Johnmcdougall #Mandella #Julianassange ... John was so determinedly gigantic, a visionary 🙏🏼 and yep the French have a joydevivre!
:) I agree 100%
It's interesting, being drawn to being vegan for over 35+ years and always coming back to animal products because i would always become sick at some point. Now I know why. LOWFAT, LOW PROTEIN is the way for many but it sound so absurd initially that I NEVER considered it. Now of course it was the missing link of info all this time. So now, no vegan processed foods, supplements, or oils, and it's like NIGHT and DAY.
The more i listen to dr. Peter Rogers the more i'm ending up exactly there as well :).
Doug Lisle is a legend. I always feel so smart after i listen to him. Love the podcast! (Beat Your Genes)
FBG, A1c, cholesterol, TG, and BP improved while eating as many potatoes as my heart desired. Thanks Dr McDougall.
Hi Chef AJ, I am sorry for your loss. Dr. McDougall inspired us all. ❤
Is your show permanently changing to once a week or is this change temporary to promote the book and will the show’s schedule revert back to daily once the tour is completed?
May I add my comment - I agree whole heartedly the comment below that Dr McDougall should have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
May our Lord reward Dr McDougall for his relenting service to God’s children
French love of food means they cook better quality things which are more satisfying. Their cheeses are many and varied. Smaller amounts with amazing flavors.
What a wonderful story about Christmas Eve! Thank you for sharing
Appreciate you all! ❤
Thank you for this interview. ❤
❤ thank you for this lovely tribute and this lovely episode chef AJ and Doug Lisle ! I offer my condolences and my gratitude!
People who touch you, leave a trace in your heart !!!
❤️ lots of love from the Netherlands and Europe!
How I wish you would come around and live here for a while too, Holland is not as beautiful as France or Italy, but Europe has many many great and beautiful places !
And if we are not as fat as the US 🇺🇸 it’s because we are not as advanced in fast food yet but believe me we are getting there…😂…. Lots of chronic disease too here…. we die believe me we die…..and diet like crazy 🤪 also , I know lots of women who deny their urges to eat to keep thin!
Anyway, thank you for the great work and wonderful answers , be well ❤
Love the shirt AJ. Yellow looks good on you !!!
Thank you Chef AJ for your wonderful interviews. And much gratitude also to Dr. Lisle for sharing his insights and advice.
Thank you!!
Maybe now Dr McDougall can truely see how many people he impacted
Way more produce. Haha
Also moving around much more, eating not so much fast food if at all, less unhealthy fats, no drugs bc of unhappiness etc.
The portions here in Arizona are huuuuge! Ppl get accustomed to huge, greasy foods. It’s addictive. Same with sugar. I got sick every time I ate those fake sweets. Same with the supposedly spring water. Made me sick to the stomach every time. Fiji water it is. Tastes great and never made me sick.
I initially gained weight moving to the States. All clients of mine that took a vacation in Europe actually lost weight even though they had ice cream etc.
Lots of additives and GMOs in American food.
Doug Lisle, you tell the TRUTH!!!!!!
Thank you Chef CJ, you sure look better than yesterday.....you just looked sick.....hope you are feeling better, I do like this Dr. seems very smart like Dr. McDougall....but a bit long winded....lol.... very intelligent tho.....
First time I have seen him I think on your show....I may have seen him once he was in your kitchen & maybe you guys were discussing foods....
Wish you had ask him to tell us a little about himself, if he's married, has kids & what his wife does if she works, and last but not least, wish you
would ask them at the end of your interview, to tell us what a day of eating for him would be.....I loved when you talked to Dr. McDougall and he told us and Mary told some foods she made and she said Dr. McDougall cooked breakfast for them every day, and she cooked other meals, I believe Dr. McDougall said he eats oatmeal every morning, for breakfast.... that is always interesting....to hear what people eat, I was hoping one day you would have Mary to tell you what a Weeks eating would be for her & the Dr. I know he always bragged on Mary's cooking.....I loved that....
I hope Heather will still do a video, with her Mom.....I think it would be very interesting.....sure she has lots of stories of him & her where all they have been, and sure she has been a lot of help to him too.....I still want Mary's Recipes, and Dr. McDougall's books ....seems I never could get thru to the right person to order his books....Thank you Chef CJ....God Bless you, and take care of yourself.....I hope to see more people that knew Dr. McDougall on your show & please do Notifications....when I turned computer on this morning you were the second Thumbnail I guess you call it on the first page.....maybe not, let me know.....7/2/24
Dr Lisle is not married and he eats simply as he is not a good cook or so he says…
People in grief don't look their best.
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Spent all his active years as a researcher for the people who were literally led a crippled life..
it's not that the french eating smaller portion, but it is a different culture all together and as dr lisle says , they do have a certain soffiistication to their diet and less fast food oriented
39:39 raw foods.
Although I personally believe humans are primarily fruit eaters and not starch eaters, and I wish he would have actually been vegan, not just primarily plant based, I agree with Dr McDougall about no animal products and keeping things low fat and whole foods. We should all be so lucky as to live a productive, fully cognitive life, loved by many and die peacefully in our sleep to no matter what age. Rip Dr. McDougall and sincere condolences to his loved ones. 😢
28:30 the French probably use less preservatives in there food
The French paradox is comparing the heart rates of south France with the diet of north France. It's the same as saying oh but the Okinawans eat a lot of meat and they have low heart disease, that's because they're comparing the diet of the young Okinawans now with the heart disease of the old Okinawans.
wow I just read his wikipedia page. definitely written by someone who hates vegans! multiple times it mentions "flatulence" as a symptom of a vegan diet. 😂
Flatulence in large part comes from not chewing your food enough. Not from being vegan!
dr. Goldhammer gets anxious when he has a tennismatch coming up with dr. Lisle!
I think the French paradox is basically.the Atkins diet or food combining.thats how Suzanne Somers came up with her diet program
From being in france.and watching there diet.her giet is food combining.no protein with carbs.or if you have a carb.no protein with it.
Can't be done as all fruits and vegetables have protein. But i get what you mean, no extra protein sources on top of that. But it's common misconception that fruits and vegetables don't have all 20 amino acids or are lacking in one way or another, which isn't true. Mixing carbs and fat is very bad though, and unfortunately most regular sources of protein (meat, eggs) are also a high percentage in fat.
I’m sorry to say that you are absolutely wrong about the ‘vitamin’ section being the bread winner in Whole Foods. It just isn’t true. I have worked there for 10 years. Even during our big supplement sale we don’t bring in the highest percentage of sales for the store. It just isn’t true. Trust me, I wish it was!
I think you're underestimating how much supplements are sold online, just look at the gym and keto crowd and how much they're supplementing regularly.
@@11235Aodh not at all. The supplement industry is a billion $ industry. Just simply stating that what he said specifically about WF is not true. I work in the supplement department for 10+ years and we do not pull in the biggest percentage of sales for the store.
@@11235Aodh Not at all. I was speaking specifically about how much is sold at WF which is what he was talking about.
The French never have a big breakfast! Small portions are left over from rationing from the war. Clean food!
Dr. Lisle. Lotta rambling going on for the past 45 minutes. I’ve forgotten the woman’s question… 😂
Doug just talks nonstop. Way off subject of our loss.
Dr. McDougall did not look 77 he looked 97 it made me question the vegan diet. His wife looks a lot older than her age also, I’m not trying to be mean I’m just stating the fact .
It's about quality not quantity. I know people in their 50s to 70s full of pharmaceutical drugs dragging themselves around not having a good healthy lifestyle. It's how you feel not how you look. 77 is still a an age that people die naturally. He had a stroke when he was 18. We have no idea if his life expectancy was impacted. He could have died decades before. Plenty of people do. My ex is dead at 68 my SIL is dying now at 63 with stage 4. She looks well so it's confusing. My Dad is 84 and using a mobility scooter and not doing physically well but he looks amazing. I'm aging at 58 but feel great and no conditions. My husband is 73 and also feeling good and doesn't look his age at all.
You've been used your whole life looking at overweight and slightly overweight people like all of us do. This also warps our view of what healthy lean looks like. Mary doesn't look frail, but does look older than someone her age who has a full plump face no doubt. Fat makes you look younger. Looking younger doesn't mean being younger. Besides how many people do you know that survived a stroke in their early twenties and thrived another 59 years after that with left side paralysis doing what dr. mc Dougall has done?
These two vegans don't look well either.
Because they're lean? Because their skins and wrinkles look fine to me, they look sharp and awake. What are you seeing? Aren't you just used to looking at fat people, then lean people might look off putting?
@@11235AodhBig difference between lean and gaunt.