Conversion therapy ban & single-sex spaces - what will Labour do? Helen Joyce on SpectatorTV

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  • Author and journalist Helen Joyce speaks to John Connolly, The Spectator's news editor about what could be inside Labour's trans policy. During the election campaign, Labour politicians were asked several times what a woman is - with very few able to give a coherent answer. Will their policy on single-sex spaces, conversation therapy ban, sex education in schools be equally incoherent?
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Komentáře • 474

  • @HonestHans4
    @HonestHans4 Před 25 dny +221

    I’m a simple man: I see a new Helen Joyce video, I immediately watch it.

  • @simama...xox..
    @simama...xox.. Před 25 dny +265

    I am so keen for the day when Helen Joyce doesn't need to defend against this garbage 😔

    • @bulldogklaus47
      @bulldogklaus47 Před 25 dny +12

      Agreed. Though I will say, however, that she'll need to find a new cause so I can keep obsessing over her 🤣

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 Před 25 dny +17

      @@bulldogklaus47she needs to be the supreme leader of something. Lord how I wish she could just rule over everyone. I haven’t ever heard her say anything from a politics perspective that I’ve disagreed with.

    • @bulldogklaus47
      @bulldogklaus47 Před 25 dny +16

      @@slacktoryrecords4193 something along the lines of “Helen Joyce: Grand Poobah of the Galactic Ministry for Sanity and Common Sense”

    • @Jess-nc4oy
      @Jess-nc4oy Před 25 dny +13

      @@bulldogklaus47 All Hail Helen! she is awesome

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong Před 25 dny +9

      we need her more then ever now Labour have gotten in

  • @kay2kin92
    @kay2kin92 Před 25 dny +174

    Women Defined by Biology not Ideology ....

    • @BlueFish-g5u
      @BlueFish-g5u Před 25 dny +14

      Yes, #RepealtheGRA!

    • @OpenHLZFocus
      @OpenHLZFocus Před 25 dny +11

      XX : simple 😉

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 24 dny

      Transwomen are biolog8cal women not an ideology.
      Helen Joyce is your cult leader.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 24 dny

      ​@OpenHLZFocus completely wrong.

    • @OpenHLZFocus
      @OpenHLZFocus Před 24 dny +9

      @@michelledavis2604 Not me and the world of Culture and Science We are not wrong. 👋You are confused or you want to destroy without🔪 contributing. ? What is your hypothesis? 🤔have you discovered something? 🤣or do you follow propaganda ideas disguised as science? I am a biologist and I am not stupid. None of us who write are stupid. I inform you. 🤭

  • @seizetheday9546
    @seizetheday9546 Před 25 dny +185

    Helen’s accuracy, clarity and humanity always blows me away. How can women not win this battle with her as our champion

    • @BenHall289
      @BenHall289 Před 25 dny +22

      They literally can’t lose. Truth always wins eventually.

    • @zeno2501
      @zeno2501 Před 25 dny +14

      @@seizetheday9546 She's magnificent. She won't lose.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 24 dny

      Maybe you need more 😅education

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 24 dny

      ​@BenHall289 I don't th8nk understand the meaning of truth.

    • @BenHall289
      @BenHall289 Před 24 dny

      @@michelledavis2604 I understand that the truth is a man in a dress who has cut his dick off and pumped himself full of estrogen isn’t magically a women. Still a man. Everyone else knows this too. This is why the truth will always win. To pretend biology no longer holds true is absurd.

  • @notaclue822
    @notaclue822 Před 25 dny +133

    I'm so sick of policy makers thinking nothing of women's rights.

    • @angrytedtalks
      @angrytedtalks Před 24 dny +2

      What are women's rights?
      The equality act says both sexes should have the same rights.
      It doesn't say that you have a right to change your sex, but it doesn't say you can't either.

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley Před 24 dny +1

      Yeah cuz for 40 all they seem to do is obsess over working class mens rights........ 🙄

    • @academicproofreadingservices
      @academicproofreadingservices Před 24 dny

      Conversely, I don't know why they are so concerned about promoting the rights of fetishists....

    • @angrytedtalks
      @angrytedtalks Před 24 dny

      @kwccoin3115 What utter codswallop.

    • @tungstenanderson5991
      @tungstenanderson5991 Před 23 dny

      @@angrytedtalks The ability to say no to men in sex segregated spaces. There is no reason why a 6 year old girl, needs to validate the identity of man in a place where her panties are off, or any woman for that matter.

  • @angryisaac2560
    @angryisaac2560 Před 25 dny +60

    Helen Joyce = National Treasure

  • @samuelchandler7612
    @samuelchandler7612 Před 25 dny +117

    Helen Joyce is a wonderful woman

  • @simonm7133
    @simonm7133 Před 25 dny +91

    In case a Labour politician is reading this, a woman is an adult human female. No ifs, no buts.

  • @JohnCoates-y6e
    @JohnCoates-y6e Před 25 dny +87

    Helen Joyce is a hero.

    • @hezkyden
      @hezkyden Před 24 dny

      Maybe she's a heroine, but not a hero. If she, and other women's rights activists, want sex distinctions enshrined in law, we could start with language, something which feminists altered to suit their own agenda.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 24 dny +1

      Only for the simple minded.

    • @lilith3953
      @lilith3953 Před 24 dny +3

      A shero!

    • @johntgw
      @johntgw Před 23 dny +2

      ​@@lilith3953 heroine, surely?

  • @acacia_w
    @acacia_w Před 25 dny +65

    Helen Joyce should be advising government.

  • @Cotictimmy
    @Cotictimmy Před 25 dny +86

    Helen is one of the most impressive public intellectuals we have in the U.K. Since we're no longer allowed to have sensible, rational, people with reality-based world views (like Helen) as our political leaders and mainstream TV presenters, rational people go to podcasts (like this one) for rational discussions these days instead of mainstream TV & radio. We are forced to pay for the BBC as our public broadcaster but feels like being forced to pay for a chocolate fire guard.

    • @OpenHLZFocus
      @OpenHLZFocus Před 25 dny +6

      In the UK and in the West ❕👍👑💄

    • @Aarenby
      @Aarenby Před 18 dny

      She wants to kill everyone who has a "special consideration" she's worse than the Austrian painter

    • @karinefonte516
      @karinefonte516 Před 18 dny

      I know it takes a toll, but you can #defundtheBBC , and any British citizen with common sense should at this point.

  • @emilylouise902
    @emilylouise902 Před 25 dny +71

    Brilliant interview. We need someone like Helen in government!

  • @OYDUS
    @OYDUS Před 25 dny +62

    SO much common sense! If only our politicians would stand up and talk intelligently like this, and mean it, and act on it.

  • @simonclare-fu7sx
    @simonclare-fu7sx Před 25 dny +44

    Helen is correct, she always has been

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 14 dny

      Not really. She's wrong sbout many things.

    • @simonclare-fu7sx
      @simonclare-fu7sx Před 14 dny

      @@michelledavis2604 sure, name one ?

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Před 13 dny

      @@simonclare-fu7sx that humans have existed for 1.2 million years.

    • @simonclare-fu7sx
      @simonclare-fu7sx Před 13 dny

      @@michelledavis2604 that's the best you can come up with ? not what she is discussing about humans today which is probably the real reason you disagree with her, you're reaching aren't you

  • @barbaralucas2375
    @barbaralucas2375 Před 25 dny +55

    All talk on all fronts, the problem would be solved if the 2004 Gender Recognition Act was repealed by someone bold enough to repeal this Act brought in by Blair/Labour. It has caused 20 years of ideology with our children being affected most.

    • @ClarinoI
      @ClarinoI Před 23 dny

      In nine years of "Conservative" government they never sought to repeal it. I doubt very seriously that this new Labour government will want to do so. In fact, I suspect now that they are in power they will ramp up pre-pubescent transsexual surgeries, and entrench gender ideology in society.

  • @roguestarz1034
    @roguestarz1034 Před 25 dny +40

    Helen Joyce is so brilliant and articulate.

  • @cmmndrblu
    @cmmndrblu Před 24 dny +23

    Helen Joyce is exemplary. I will always always be grateful to her for writing her book.

  • @katedean6258
    @katedean6258 Před 24 dny +21

    Helen Joyce. What a woman! My mum overheard me listening to this and said ‘who is that sensible woman speaking sense clearly?’ Yes mum!

  • @colinm4
    @colinm4 Před 24 dny +13

    Why is qiestioning the mental health of a young person declaring as trans regarded as conversion therapy?

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 Před 23 dny

      Because the nut job activists who have captured the organizations that treat these young people, are themselves either gender doctors who want to stay in business, or they’re A G P men (erotic cross d r e s s e r s) who need to maintain the narrative of the ‘trans child’ so that people will see them (the A G Ps) as having been ‘born this way’ like gay people. The children are held up as the purest form of ‘trans’ - they’re important to the narrative. Necessary so that the general public doesn’t realize we’re mostly talking about a paraphilia here. And then there are the people who’ve bought into the suicide narrative - they really believe these kids will harm themselves (potentially fatally) if they’re not ‘affirmed’ in their gender identity. Of course, that narrative is false as well.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 Před 17 dny

      because powerful people--billionaires--with heavy investments in the 'healthcare' industry stand to make more billions from hormones and surgeries on vulnerable people. It would not be an exaggeration to say that many very wealthy people are essentially psychopaths.

    • @DisabledDoll
      @DisabledDoll Před 17 dny

      IThey’re converting kids who mite be gay someday to straight presenting people. They’re already doing conversion therapy

  • @sharonalbanese8084
    @sharonalbanese8084 Před 25 dny +21

    This woman is a total hero.

  • @finisheseverythi
    @finisheseverythi Před 24 dny +19

    Im a counselling psychologist. Every time I hear helen speak I breathe a sigh of relief. The governing bodies of my industry are campaigning to ban conversion therapy, and the chilling effect is very real. If ever I start to feel that chill, I will listen to interviews like this, and find my courage again.

  • @BlueFish-g5u
    @BlueFish-g5u Před 25 dny +91

    Please use trans identifying man/males/boys and trans identifying women/females/girls! No man is any type of woman etc etc.

    • @pussycats456
      @pussycats456 Před 25 dny

      @@BlueFish-g5u Or, just say Men and Boys!

    • @jenniferlawrence2701
      @jenniferlawrence2701 Před 25 dny +10

      I prefer the term "Space Invaders"

    •  Před 24 dny

      @@jenniferlawrence2701 Do you think males should have the right to their own spaces and exclude women from them if they so choose?

    • @lilith3953
      @lilith3953 Před 24 dny +4

      I see that you don't know what male pattern violence is and haven't looked at the difference in size and criminal offending among the prison muster.

    • @katherynet1424
      @katherynet1424 Před 24 dny

      Well, these people don't identify as trans they identify as either a woman or a man. It's perfectly binary, a person doesn't transition to become a trans, the fake gender ideology movement that exists now hijacked the community with perverts calling themselves women. Any real transsexuals know they are biologically either male or female, and dont like invading spaces they know they aren't welcome in or belong in. This trans cult is something new and seems to enforce an ideology of gender as a social construct, not necessarily what's between your legs.

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas Před 25 dny +44

    A good piece. Now imagine how much further forward the womens’ rights would be had ALL womens’ groups worked together. Calling Kellie-Jay Keen an ‘extremist’ for example as some did was stupid and devisive

    • @creatrixZBD
      @creatrixZBD Před 24 dny +2

      @@sisiphas imho KJK has been on a personal political career arc, and this is just the grift she chose. She spruiked as much ideology as the next person.

  • @davidloughlin2238
    @davidloughlin2238 Před 25 dny +15

    There are no "trans" women or "cis" women, there are just women, this has always been the case and always will be. Men who wish to live their lives as women, and women who wish to live their lives as men are absolutely free to do so, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.

  • @aodhanofailain
    @aodhanofailain Před 25 dny +30

    Labour’s ban on ‘conversion therapy’ would effectively ban the provision of scientific psychotherapy to consenting adult patients on the grounds of a quasi-religious ‘identity’ doctrine. Should we say to people with gender dysphoria, ‘You’re right! You are a soul imprisoned in a wrong body, so disfigure yourself with our blessing; we’ll feel virtuous pretending you’ve changed sex, whilst you face a life of painful medicalisation’? Should we not say, ‘You’re mistaken to think you’re in the wrong body. You’re beautiful, good, and truly you just as you are. You may have a distressing condition called gender dysphoria, but people have recovered from this without self-harming, and with our support and evidence-based medical care you so can you’?

    • @clovermark39
      @clovermark39 Před 24 dny +8

      Same as we should say to people with anorexia nervosa. Yes you are too big so cut down on what you eat.

  • @wendyhaynes4991
    @wendyhaynes4991 Před 23 dny +16

    It really worries me when a labour politician on the radio can make an absurd statement saying transwomen can 'grow' a cervix.....does he even know what it is??

  • @simmer484
    @simmer484 Před 24 dny +18

    In schools it's always spoken about in terms of toilets. But there are other issues. I know a primary school girl who was one of two girls not selected for a four girl athletics team. It would have been their first life experience of a proper athletics competition at the local athletics arena. One of the four 'girls' selected is a boy who pretends to be a girl. How is this fair? There are now 5 boys and only 3 girls going from the school.

  • @neilmetcalfe5261
    @neilmetcalfe5261 Před 24 dny +11

    As always, Helen always speaks common sense. Labour should be asking for her advice and guidance.

  • @FlashdogFul28
    @FlashdogFul28 Před 25 dny +22

    Helen is star, is she ever on the BBC I wonder .

  • @deepoole820
    @deepoole820 Před 24 dny +12

    Helen's commentaries are so well reasoned. She is always spot on. Thank you Helen.

  • @annon3173
    @annon3173 Před 25 dny +16

    Good discussion- an interviewer who knows the subject properly and the issues at play for women, with a knowledgeable interviewee who gets her points across successfully. Have John on more.

  • @s-eyesel
    @s-eyesel Před 25 dny +11

    We don't want an ideology to be pushed onto us at all costs ( as I have sadly experienced but flatly refused to question my own gender... with the consequence of being excluded and belittled by that group) 😮 😡

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas Před 25 dny +35

    My gender critical friends who voted Labour ALREADY REGRET IT.

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong Před 25 dny +22

      why did they do it, they must have known we've all known for years

    • @pulchralutetia
      @pulchralutetia Před 25 dny

      That's a bit premature, to say the least. Is so-called 'gender critical feminism' the only thing on God's earth that matters? Millions of people can't get medical treatment, the prisons are close to breaking point, we are being economically raped by the utility companies and young people can't afford to have kids.

    • @lynseypringle9585
      @lynseypringle9585 Před 25 dny +19

      No sympathy! They knew!

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Před 24 dny

      well thats just one issue - and pressure should sort it out

    • @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
      @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Před 23 dny

      I'm gender critical and I have no regrets.
      You speaking for your 'friends' means nothing.

  • @gabychats
    @gabychats Před 25 dny +11

    As always Thankyou Helen for all that you do.

  • @CaseySummers-zy8mj
    @CaseySummers-zy8mj Před 25 dny +8

    Interesting to hear Helen’s perspective on this because it’s one of my biggest worries with Labour and I was surprised at how little air it got during the election. Helen has calmed me down a bit. Hope things continue in the right direction. Now it’s just the rest of the issues to worry about 🙈

  • @vicstee482
    @vicstee482 Před 25 dny +14

    Unfortunately i do not share helens conservative optimism. I think it will get far worse now under labour.

    • @jenniferlawrence2701
      @jenniferlawrence2701 Před 24 dny +4

      Yep. They're got a once-in-a-century majority in parliament, possibly only for one term. They're going to use it.

  • @elizabethwhite1068
    @elizabethwhite1068 Před 25 dny +14

    Great chat, always love hearing from Helen.
    To everyone here in the comments, please send a note to YT to stop putting the community note, or whatever it's supposed to be, from The Trevor Project on every gender critical video. The Cass Review is the expert on the topic, not a political activist organization who's goal is to fill their pockets with gender medicine money.

    • @SexRealist301
      @SexRealist301 Před 24 dny +1

      Duly reported. The rot is everywhere isn't it?! I can't wait for this to all be over and back to sanity! Preferably with the appropriate heads rolling, such as that twat David Tennant, etc. I think he's bitter because his voice never broke.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 Před 23 dny

      Yes, hear-hear! on the Trevor Project. It’s unreal the way these insane activist orgs have got their teeth into giant multinational corporations like Google/YT. They’re so very wrong on this issue. How dare they?

    • @clairemagnolia
      @clairemagnolia Před 23 dny +3

      @@elizabethwhite1068 You are so right, I do this every time I come across it. Thought police at work in Google 😳

  • @CheckFred
    @CheckFred Před 25 dny +9

    This Lady needs to be the PM's personal advisor - She really does 'get it' - I remember in the early 60's - I was 13 - 15 and obsessed with Cafe-Racer Motorbikes and SPEED!! ... I used to say to everyone who'd listen that My Main Goal in life was to "Die! Before! I was 24 on a Triumph Bonneville doing a 'Ton' (100mph) " ... It was about the same time as girls would 'brag' at school about having tried to commit Suicide! - But Failed! (Thankfully) ... Some really Weird stuff goes on through puberty - It always HAS - It always WILL - We all grow out of these fantasies eventually - But guess WHAT! ?? .. LABOUR want to LOWER the voting age to 16yrs - WHY!?? - Because they KNOW! That early teens is the BEST TIME to indoctrinate 'most' youngsters into believing Socialism is the ONLY WAY and a Vote for Labour/Momentum is their ONLY real choice....... So the 'pretence' of Democracy can continue, but in reality it will be even MORE DEAD! ☠ Than it is NOW! 🤨 .... And Stonewall is the Conduit for this to succeed 🤔

    • @bogdiworksV2
      @bogdiworksV2 Před 22 dny

      KS is hardly a socialist. Teens can be indoctrinated into all kinds of BS, as in the gender BS case, though they generally care less about politics than adults do. They are usually prone to social contagion.

  • @mountwalker2785
    @mountwalker2785 Před 23 dny +7

    Thank you very much for getting those important points out. Also, can't stress enough how anti-gay large parts of the "queer" and transgender movement are.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 Před 23 dny +2

      Extremely anti-gay. The ones who “change their gender” but start out as lesbians and gay men, are nothing more than promoters of conversion therapy themselves. Internalized homophobia is rampant among them. They’re no different from ‘ex-gays’ who claim to have used God to rid themselves of their same sex attraction.

  • @chatterbox7000
    @chatterbox7000 Před 25 dny +11

    Brilliant as always.

  • @julietrees6534
    @julietrees6534 Před 25 dny +8

    Well said Helen 👏 🙌 ❤

  • @memoryhero
    @memoryhero Před 24 dny +4

    16:37 - this is why I reckon I'll be listening to Helen Joyce for at least a few decades. resolve, focus, elocution, and principles like these come around so damn seldomly.

  • @paulwilson7622
    @paulwilson7622 Před 23 dny +3

    She is absolutely correct about women vs trans rights!
    It just shows how distorted, abnormal and delusional Labor are by making it a political issue about it.

  • @mslinklater
    @mslinklater Před 25 dny +4

    Helen Joyce is an absolute national treasure. Great interview... thank you.

  • @cnrspiller3549
    @cnrspiller3549 Před 25 dny +23

    Ooh, she's good.

  • @TheMagicLemur
    @TheMagicLemur Před 24 dny +4

    7:00 - I live in Anneliese Dodds' constituency and she got criticised at Hustings on trans issues.
    Ironically it's her that's tasked with fixing this issue for Labour - you couldn't make it up! 😅

  • @DustyLou
    @DustyLou Před 19 dny +2

    What an absolute hero. Helen will fare well in the history books.

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf Před 25 dny +9

    She`s great mate

  • @chrispercival9789
    @chrispercival9789 Před 24 dny +4

    Good work Helen.
    Small point of fact though: Labour didn't win a landslide, tories lost in a sinkhole.

  • @sallynolan5928
    @sallynolan5928 Před 24 dny +3

    This woman has common sense - a rare thing nowadays.

  • @kathrynmcnamara9196
    @kathrynmcnamara9196 Před 24 dny +6

    Beautifully clear and articulate Helen, as always. Thank you for speaking up in support of this issue.

  • @Jessicajanelove
    @Jessicajanelove Před 24 dny +5

    Fantastic Woman ❤

  • @philipmilner9638
    @philipmilner9638 Před 25 dny +26

    That's the trouble with Labour, they just don't think...

    • @dogbreaththe3rd851
      @dogbreaththe3rd851 Před 25 dny +8

      They DO think, but only in terms of their level of power and control.

    • @pulchralutetia
      @pulchralutetia Před 25 dny

      And the Tories did? The country has been brought to its knees by the Tory cretins.

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Před 24 dny +1

      they think and don't just make bland populist statements like you do

    • @dogbreaththe3rd851
      @dogbreaththe3rd851 Před 24 dny

      @@joso7228The Abbopotamus thinks that it has two left feet. Socilaism is the natural habitat of the envious mid-wit.

  • @mujy12
    @mujy12 Před 13 dny +2

    I stand fully behind you Helen

  • @jorge2757
    @jorge2757 Před 25 dny +17

    Gracias gracias gracias 😌😌😌

  • @queenjasminetemaiharoa7009

    Helen is a breath of fresh air in this very polluted world!💓

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 Před 25 dny +5

    Is their woman problem that they don't know what one is?

  • @danguee1
    @danguee1 Před 25 dny +4

    1:33 "we can say that in terms of votes....". No, Helen - did you not look at the election numbers? Labour won only 33% of the popular vote and, in fact, Corbyn's Labour won 33% more votes than Starmer's... The landslide was SEATS ONLY - NOT popular vote

  • @lindasykes1356
    @lindasykes1356 Před 24 dny +2

    Thank you for all you have done and are doing, Helen!

  • @RichC89
    @RichC89 Před 24 dny +6

    I love Helen Joyce! Recently finished her book. Absolutely brilliant. If you read this comment Helen, know that we love you!

  • @rehypotehcation3682
    @rehypotehcation3682 Před 24 dny +3

    What does it say about Conservative and now Labor governments that we are now in a situation where someone like Helen is cancelled in favor of views that are totally discredited by the Cass report.

    • @rshnewton
      @rshnewton Před 22 dny

      How is she cancelled when she is being interviewed by a national UK media magazine/platform right here?

  • @ravenwing8842
    @ravenwing8842 Před 24 dny +2

    Very astute and wise words by Helen. I hope Starmer is listening because he seems to have a ‘pendulum’ problem in general about understanding the need for women’s rights and what a woman is.

  • @ycAuntieLala
    @ycAuntieLala Před 24 dny +3

    Bio Spex is /should be a protected characteristic in policy. This is the matter words referring to bio spex are smale And bfemale . The question to policy makers wobble over is the use of man and woman. Because part of the trans activism is taking over language and changing definitions all the sudden.

  • @joelhall5124
    @joelhall5124 Před 25 dny +5

    Two women's and equality ministers?
    I can't even understand why you'd need one.

    • @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
      @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Před 23 dny

      I imagine having your rights guaranteed throughout the vast majority of human history means that you don't have to worry.
      Meanwhile, women have only had rights to autonomy and freedom for, at most, the past 100 years (out of thousands of years of human civilisation)...
      So, go develop some perspective and understand that women's rights are never anywhere near as 'guaranteed' as men's rights are.

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979 Před 24 dny +4

    CZcams puts a link to the Trevor project. 🙆‍♂

  • @markbrown4955
    @markbrown4955 Před 24 dny +3

    Well Lisa Nandy, now you are in power you are going to have to and politicians who have abandoned womens rights are going to have to face the music.

  • @dannystuart-cummins4327
    @dannystuart-cummins4327 Před 18 dny +2

    This women has a beautiful voice.

  • @grumpysincebirth
    @grumpysincebirth Před 25 dny +4

    Great interview.

  • @FarhanAmin1994
    @FarhanAmin1994 Před 25 dny +6

    Let's say it should matter what someone claims to "identify" as. Are we talking about anything real and measurable or something nebulous and easily fakeable? If the latter, what are the downsides?

    • @jezdavis1865
      @jezdavis1865 Před 25 dny

      Rapists get access to women's jails and women lose their places in sports teams. I reckon they're pretty simple downsides to identify.

  • @stephendickinson7071
    @stephendickinson7071 Před 25 dny +5

    I wonder if this applies to mosques?

    • @pulchralutetia
      @pulchralutetia Před 25 dny

      These white middle-class atheistic 'feminists' don't care about the oppression of women in Islamic cultures. They only care about 'transsexuals'.

    • @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
      @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Před 23 dny

      We all know the answer to that question.

  • @DisabledDoll
    @DisabledDoll Před 17 dny +1

    8:22 if children are too young for doctors to even feel comfortable explaining that the child will grow up without ever gaining a sex drive then children are too young for “gender affirming care”

  • @belverticale
    @belverticale Před 20 dny +1

    Helen always laser sharp. If the new government are smart they'll downplay the whole trans bunfight.

  • @marypatriciabyrne-halaszi6511

    Thank you Helen

  • @Hilooknofurther
    @Hilooknofurther Před 24 dny +2

    Great conversation

  • @DrGreenGiant
    @DrGreenGiant Před 24 dny +4

    More biased, overreaching and geographically irrelevant context from CZcams at the top of this video. It's so gross.
    Great video thought, Helen is superb and a font of knowledge on this subject.

  • @rshnewton
    @rshnewton Před 22 dny +1

    I look forward to the Spectator's interview with a trans inclusive figure, for balance.

    • @ellewilliams5162
      @ellewilliams5162 Před 17 dny

      Or god forbid having a trans person talking about trans issues

  • @francinehorner2792
    @francinehorner2792 Před 21 dnem +1

    There was extensive research supposedly carried out by the Tavistock wasn’t there?
    That didn’t quite turn out well did it?

  • @DeeCee-nb6ev
    @DeeCee-nb6ev Před 25 dny +1

    My constituency MP is Rosie Duffield, she did not get my vote this election though she has in the past.
    Regardless of my vote Rosie is the MP and has more traditional truthful views on this and it would have been a bold and decisive move by Starmer to make her womens Minister.
    Starmer though hasn’t got what transsexuals want to lose when it comes making the right decision on this.

  • @bilbobaggins5408
    @bilbobaggins5408 Před 7 dny

    Let's remember that political parties conspire with each other not to raise or debate issues that they want to avoid dealing with even though they know that there is great controversy in the general population. In this way, debate on abortion has been suppressed everywhere in the West except in the USA.

  • @pseudonamed
    @pseudonamed Před 19 dny +1

    Very clear points

  • @RichardEnglander
    @RichardEnglander Před 25 dny +2

    Sunak - lots of hot air on all sorts but only came up with a new age related smoking ban 🤡🌍😊

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Před 24 dny +1

      and he couldn't even stop the boats

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander Před 24 dny +1

      @@joso7228 he didn't want to, he would not let Braverman stop them.

  • @ellewilliams5162
    @ellewilliams5162 Před 17 dny

    Single sex spaces have never functioned in the way gender cortical people imagine.
    In the equality act single sex spaces don’t apply to trans people by default. The document itself only gives an example of a support group for SA survivors where it could be legal for them to exclude trans women from using the facilities that the event is using. That’s the one example, it’s now being expanded to places like hospitals which goes beyond the original intent of the legislation
    It’s maddening how accepted it has become to act as if this isn’t the case.
    It was even tested in a review a few years ago

  • @neildunford241
    @neildunford241 Před 25 dny +1

    I'm kinda done with it seeing, "what is a woman". We know that.
    I think we need more. "What is trans" & "What is a transwoman"

    • @SexRealist301
      @SexRealist301 Před 24 dny +1

      A man.

    • @richardgilyead7640
      @richardgilyead7640 Před 23 dny +2

      I'd be more interested to see politicians answer the question, "What is a man? And how are you going to keep them out of single-sex spaces?"

  • @helenromanelli2544
    @helenromanelli2544 Před 17 dny

    How very, very brave of Starmer...

  • @fld9266
    @fld9266 Před 10 dny

    I’m a straight woman pensioner , I feel all this gender stuff is actually damaging kids - I actually think it’s targeting homosexuals to “make” them more acceptable by changing them . Also talking about how someone feels shouldn’t be banned - by all means ban intense “treatments” like electroshock etc but talking and leaving kids to grow up is important

  • @user-wy9dl2xc9v
    @user-wy9dl2xc9v Před 23 dny +3

    I really noticed this ,when we ask a question about women's rights the answer is about Trans,we didn't ask about men did we.

  • @MarcelGraumans
    @MarcelGraumans Před 22 dny +1

    Being on the wrong side of history, science and reality, impressive....

  • @michelledavis2604
    @michelledavis2604 Před 15 dny +1

    Helen Joyce thinks humans are 1.2 million years old. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @damedianadupree462
    @damedianadupree462 Před 24 dny +1

    Why do you never ask trans people about trans issues?

  • @notalefty999
    @notalefty999 Před 22 dny +4

    Mastectomies and cross sex hormones = not conversion therapy. Telling a girl distressed with puberty that her feelings are normal and it doesn't mean she is a boy = conversion therapy.
    Oh and even pointing this out gets you censored on youtube apparently.

  • @jillraymond2394
    @jillraymond2394 Před 24 dny

    Helen is always easy to understand but labour did not win a landslide but whoever we vote for the government always wins

  • @miriamlana833
    @miriamlana833 Před 25 dny +1

    How should laws based on "biological sex" be made when the thing itself isn't enshrined in laws yet? Who will dare to enshrine? I mean really material based without arbitrary or teleological assumptions, so no such things like "the sex of a person is the sex recorded at birth" or some potential/destinated gamete producer bullshit.

  • @DisabledDoll
    @DisabledDoll Před 17 dny +1

    13:19 they ARE conversion therapists

  • @francinehorner2792
    @francinehorner2792 Před 21 dnem

    Electric shock treatment still exists doesn’t. It?
    They gave it to one of the women who suffered from depression in the Horizon Post Office Drama series Why were they allowed to do that? And why does it still exist?
    It’s a great deterrent for anyone who may like to speak out. They could have you whipped up by a psychiatrist and an institution and never have control over your self and decisions again!
    Much clarification on this would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏻xx

    • @jonahwhale9047
      @jonahwhale9047 Před 21 dnem

      Because extensive research has found ECT to be highly effective for the relief of major depression.

    • @ellewilliams5162
      @ellewilliams5162 Před 17 dny

      There are trans women in the UK who underwent electric shock treatment in the past

    • @ellewilliams5162
      @ellewilliams5162 Před 17 dny

      @@jonahwhale9047completely different thing

    • @jonahwhale9047
      @jonahwhale9047 Před 17 dny

      @@ellewilliams5162 Do you mean trans men? The people in the Horizon scandal weren't being punished with ECT, it was to treat their depression. Probably the same in the cases that you are are referring to too.

  • @leighwallis5782
    @leighwallis5782 Před 25 dny +2

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @jimoconnor2594
    @jimoconnor2594 Před 25 dny +2

    But are they women ?

  • @roger_welco
    @roger_welco Před 25 dny +4

    As labour are all about equality how about removing the role of women's minister. It's the complete opposite of pushing equality otherwise you have a minister for Men to.

  • @buntyjoy1800
    @buntyjoy1800 Před 23 dny +1

    Its not trans women with the crossbows

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 Před 25 dny +1

    Women needs ,how about men needs 🙄

  • @billythewhizz8077
    @billythewhizz8077 Před 25 dny +11

    Why isn’t there a minister for men?

    • @FarhanAmin1994
      @FarhanAmin1994 Před 25 dny

      Even though men are the ones sent to wars, the ones with apparently higher rates of you-know-what, yeah. No Minister for Men. And the reason is obvious: it would be "a bad look".

    • @shelleyphilcox4743
      @shelleyphilcox4743 Před 25 dny +4

      @billythewhizz8077 I'm in support of a Minister for Men (and boys) to tackle issues faced by men, from societal violence to suicide to mens physical health issues.

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Před 24 dny

      because we men don't need one

    • @lilith3953
      @lilith3953 Před 24 dny

      Sigh.

    • @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
      @howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Před 23 dny

      because men don't need one.
      why?
      because men have always had rights.
      women's rights are on the 'whims' of men, women's rights are not guaranteed...
      men's rights are always guaranteed, especially if you're rich and White.
      Use your brain!