Destroying CAS One Stinger At A Time - Ozelot - War Thunder
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- As the title says, we ruin CAS one stinger at a time. The Ozelt is a hidden gem at 9.3, but only if it's used in the right hands!
00:00 - Highlight
03:22 - Anti CAS Begins!
19:16 - Conclusion & Blooper
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You said it feels kinda spawn campy for helis. But I mean, helis can shoot into tank spawns anyway. So I feel like it's a evil but lawful situation, kinda like how sometimes you're just forced into enemy spawns.
If a helicopter can spawn camp, SPAA can spawn camp.
Holy shit, I honestly never thought you'd cover this vehicle given how bad it can be at times, I mean a lot of the times missiles will miss, you have a hard time actually locking on anything. Now that's a total surprise!
Yea, it is frustating 😢
If you know how Stingers work, it's kinda easy
Having played both this and the strela try using the strela. Its considerably worse to get a lock
For these missiles to miss that's user error. You have to account for the target's movement when aiming, like you can lock and then fire way off to the side so it intercepts. Getting a lock is a whole other matter. The all aspect range on the stat card is really optimistic.
It's all about timing your shots. :)
its not a radar, its an IR system, it doesnt know the range unless you lock with the FCS
Watching the missiles zoom towards their target and then BOOM! Target destroyed. Super satisfying and a really good vid!
If this is the project you were talking about on stream, i love it. Not only it is a nice inside on Ozelot for those who doesn't have it or are getting killed by it. I would love to see you play more SPAAs in future. Maybe Sidam 25 Mistral could be interesting choice for next time.
in the stat card the stingers have 6km all aspect but can't lock a heli at 2km in front of you
Thats true. Stingers against helicopters are dogshit
Except when it works at 4 km randomly. Just to give you 20 ghost missiles in a row, obviously.
no heat to lock onto frontally at long range
Because it's an IR missile
@@HinFoo sure, but the stingers were made to destroy helicopters and low flying aircrafts. I’m sure that it’s way better irl
In cold weather, although the temperature difference does make the contrast much higher between hot and not hot objects, especially with helicopters, and ESPECIALLY those with exhaust minimization designs (like pointing the exhaust directly into the main rotor or tail blades to dissipate the heat as quickly ass possible), the heat dissipates pretty quickly, so it's harder for the seeker to see and lock on to. Less pronounced on afturburning aircraft, but can and does still work to varying degrees in cold weather.
I love playing SPAA. I'd rather use guns or manual guiding missiles compared to the MANPAADs. It's a shame though, because I trained on the Stinger IRL and sadly it just falls short in WT.
Great video Justin, as always, thanks for another upload!
The Ozelot is probably one of my favorite anti-airs next to the Gepard A1 and FlaRakRad because of the BR they're at. Since the missiles have been changed to be uncaged a while back, something like shooting at a plane here (4:43) is possible since you could just yeet it over the building because gaijin doesn't understand manpad G overloads
The flarakrad kind of sucks nowadays, i have it as well. The flarakpanzer is far more effective for its BR
I love the german commander saying „getroffen“.
The Ozelot is pretty fun. Missile SPAA is quite relaxing to play (If not getting killed on spawn by 2 Su-35k and a KA-50), almost more about managing your missiles and targets than classic combat. And being small and quick makes it even more satisfying. Being big and slow can feel really boring to play, even if you kinda end up setting up shop somewhere.
This video is perfect example of why anti airs should have UAV too. At least there would be something to do while waiting for targets
I love being a scout, but I love being an AA much more. Taking down those CAS planes is great, taking down helis is even better :)
I find it interesting to see how MANPADs gameplay is similar to gun AA at the lower BRs. You don’t want to expose yourself to enemy ground vehicles, get out of Spawn (although if there is aircraft I do like to abuse spawn protection), and find a spot that gives you decent visibility of the sky, while not being completely exposed to aircraft nor enemy ground vehicles. What you said about timing is absolutely correct, you typically want to open fire when they are about to attack a ground target and facing your direction or away from you. This probably changes by the time you get to medium range missile AA like the Tor-M1 or Pantsir, but still interesting nonetheless. The only difference is that as a gun AA, I tend to follow the tanks, not engaging the hostiles in the front, but staying in the rear but close to better aid my chances of shooting down a plane and also to protect against Flankers.
Just want to add, the radar in the top left isn't actually a radar, just an IR scanner, so it doesn't show range. When you lock the aircraft it shows range due to a laser rangefinder.
In the Strela you can just fire right when you got the lock, the missile will bend space and time until it hit, but Strela don't have radar so you have to wait for the ZSU to spot aircrafts
Even though it doesn't get a radar I'd still argue that the Strela 10M2 is the best spaa at it's BR.
You killed me with this the other day! I knew I recognized the username! I was in the mi-24A, I forget the map but it was desert
The one thing i can consistently have fun is playing spaa. I got really good with the coelian or now known as flakpanzer 341. It has been my favorite tank however there is a special slot for the ozelot. When i first got it. I was wondering how to play it but i found a ton of people just saying how bad it is. However after playing it over and over again i figured out how to use it. I employ the same strategies used in this video and it feels great that some people are actively using those strategies.
As a proud SPAA player, I do watch some CZcams while waiting for some aircraft, yes it does take some time, but it worth every time you save teammates.
LMAO!
6:38 the guy you killed there has "throttle locked at full", pretty fitting for what happened there
Love playing anti-CAS. "If you fly, you die...."
When drones just came out, the Ozelot was great at killing drones. They usually couldn’t even fire once. But it got quickly nerfed, sadly.
Yeah they do not like that a new project of them get killed pretty quick and not even usable in game. They should remove the nerfs so spaa is more a fun experience
Same thing happened to Me. AGM 62ER from the A7E, hit the Ariete straight in the engine. Damaged only his top MG
Best time video ever 🙏 just got it
There was a glitch for about a week where the missile was radar guided and ignored flares and IIRC if you lock a target.
I am a huge fan of all 3 wiesels. I'm nearly done unlocking the 1A2 and once that's done I will probably only run wiesels in a lineup.
An IR seeking missile, that required super cooling of the seeker head to cut down on IR clutter....doesn't work well in cold weather? Huh? LOL
My version of the Stinger was FIM-92C....I fired one in a blizzard in Colorado. It could track a BAT that I couldn't physically see, fired entirely on tone. Admittedly, a BAT has a MASSIVE IR signature.
Locking doesn’t warn the enemy since you use optical lock
This is old however, the Ozelot doesn’t have radar it has IRST which is why you don’t see a range. It will simply lock it the signal is strong enough regardless of range.
Justin, i wish if next video 'd be about Type 93 (The toyota spaa, japan). Hope you will try the thing, its obviously fast af
when I'm playing SPAA, when there's nothing to do I'm always freaking out, tanks can be absolutely anywhere and my adrenaline skyrockets
i think the pgz04a is pretty good, not as good as the gepard but the missiles are pretty good able to pull 18gs even if the stat card says 12gs at the same BR as this thing but with 25mms and thermals with electro-optic tracking to planes dont know you're locking on
also could you do a revisit on the ztz99-II/II? its been 1-2 years since your last video and they now have the DTC-10 round and tandem atgms
5:23 Bowsette song is lit bruh.
reminder if you're trying to be sneaky you can stow the launcher through the controls menu
Hey Justin, since you are occasionally covering AA vehicles, any chance we could see a video on the Falcon in the British tree? I just got my first ever nuke thanks to the Falcon and I’d love to see your take on Britain’s anti everything vehicle
Got my first nuke with the U.K. in the falcon after 2 with France. Had such a dumb game, just drove around like a madman got 14 kills jed out and hoped in a nuke. Probably the weirdest game of my life.
@@danielfield2570 Thats just about what I did lmao. Was on Ground Zero and I just kinda drove around shooting things. I probably should have died three or four times but luckily the enemy team was even more clueless than me
Fun fact about the Ozelot: the IRST is the Thales ADAD, the same as the Stormer HVM
SPAA main here! I always grind AA vehicles first in trees :) (Im also one of the few dedicated SPAA players in our squadron for Squadron Battles.)
they severely need to buff the lock-on range of the stingers vs helis and drones. Its asinine that a missile developed with helicopters in mind as a target, cant get a lock beyond 2.2km or 1.2km at worst. Plus technically anything with the K variant stingers should be able to fire as long as your IRST is locking the aircraft thanks to Datalink in the missile (thats also why they are not flareable, its gaijins way of representing datalink)
the santal is great fun as well now especially since the su25s dont eat ur mistrals like a fat kid at a chinese buffet anymore
This spaa is going to be my next grind
I am an SPAA enjoyer I use the VCC80/60 and the otomatik in my lineup a lot. Main reason is I mained usa using xm1 and dealing with the russian cas/heli spam made me grow a hatred for planes so I sit in an antiair once jets start spawning so others wont have to deal with dying to cas all the time
They should give the FIM-92K its datalink capability, right now it's the FIM-92J that is in-game. As far as I know, every vehicle with the FIM-92K has a way to lock aircraft.
This would finally counter drones and helis at this BR.
Can we get Justin 80k atleast by the end of the year? Maybe 90k even? Like he seriously he deserves it
ive been using the usa xm with the roland3 and the 2, 10.7 abrams. i think the m1a2 makes 10.7 really fun. and its so satisfying when i get players with the rolands.
theres a non-zero change you shot missiles at me when this was filmed
Its so beautiful to see heat seeker missles on spaa
This thing works wonderful if you fire missile to enemy beyond 2,5 km closer to that will have less chance to hit unless its coming directly at u
can you maybe play the type 93?Love the videos!!!
Stock missiles on the LAV-AD seem to be better than the unlocks rn for some reason
Helicopters keep spawncamping tank spawns so its only fair to spancamp a helicopter spawn
Im wondering if I should use this thing as if it has guns, as in wait until an enemy gets within 1 mile, or would that not work
16:48 it is. keep doing it
That absolutely spawn camping the heli's.
Whats the difference between the 2 Missiles ? I cant see any other characteristic
It's all well and good, until you try for the ka50/52, which are supposedly invisible to such IR missiles. Same goes for combat drones- if the Radar could help lock, I would be happy. Meanwhile, the 2s38 is still the best SPAA before Pantsir and ADATS
does these missles gets effected by flares?
The fact that this sits at 9.7 but the Strela 10M2 sits at 9.3 is criminal because the Strela is far superior.
12:19 The magic moment when you play the spaa´s wich only can shoot/lock on to planes. So many targets and you only can scout...
Could you play the Gepard 1A2?
Justin, you should try the type93 next time, it has much more fun😅
Esports: Funny man does funny thing
comonly when i play spaa i just sit in my chair and read manhwa, listening to my music list
Hi not sure why the tanks wouldnt shoot the Ozelot. If they leave it then it could shoot down all their team mates aircraft and cost them the game. Plus you get points for the kill the same as any other ground vehicle.
would be fun to have one missile AA, my best one is the CV90 lvkv its good but its not missiles ;)
All helis get what they reap. No, they can stow any of that noise.
can you play the ItPsV 90?
The more annoying issue is the helis don't get the proxy stingers.
does anyone else get the bug or whatever that prevents you from launching the missile?
Bowsette song is pretty fire
Whenever I play the Ozelot hoping to get air kills only one or no planes spawn lol
I do not mind spawn camping Helicopters on the top end BR, But let's be honest the Mi 24As and Ds are not exactly game breaking helicopters with those super slow falanga missiles and and unguided rockets.
As a CAS pilot, i hate this little vechicle 😂😂 It scares the hell out of me
The ground based manpads code makes no sense. Sometimes you need to get below 1.5 click to get a lock on heli.
now try the LAV-AD. its a Jack of All Trade!
Man i wish type 93 also has detection radar...
Ever since the update its pointless bringing planes since flares are useless against the missiles. I can dodge the lavad missiles or even flare them, but the german stingers cant dodge or flare anymore.
It's amazing how many people that SUCK at playing SPAAG. The vast majority just stays in spawn and shot waaaay too early. It's not really hard to play good if you just do as you. Most pilots expect bad SPAAG-players and counter them.
its hard to lock Heli's on non cold map i think its 1.5-2.0K to lock
I’m trying to get this thing. It looks so fun. Edit(even though nobody is gonna read this) I love the vehicle so much I watch the video twice
When you get a wonky lock on a drone firing a missile, just launch. The stinger will lose the missile and re-lock to the drone 95% of the time. Free long range kill.
Come lil z 11 it's bath time lmao
when i play , i play i do not listen music or watch my phone :D
its like driving a car and using phone you could crash
Can someone explain that unsportsmanlike conduct comment to me please?
i hate that thing, my teammates always kill my drones with that trash :c
I am looking at video
Hi justin how are you doing
taking a m22 into a 10.0 game is also not helping the team.. they always seem to be the ones to die first and rarely ever get a kill
me after being destroyed by Ka50...3x SPAA lineup + a fighter löl
Uh--huh. Sure.
Paying them very well I see...
it's irst radar not active radar so it won't tell you the distance
Not true, the lock on does tell you!
that intro clip happens so me so often, 90% of the time it's the ERA on the roof of russians blocking completely a Walleye or GBU, and it's consistent...
british adats please
Ram ranch #14
Combat drones at a BR Lower than 10.0 is really bad
Unfortunately ozelot is 10.0 now, thanks to premium vehicle sales.
Just triple checked to be sure, it is still at 9.3 (Arcade/RB)
o.o
@@JustinPlaysTV I meant it gets uptiered to 10.0 100% of the time because everyone bought 10.0 and 10.3 premiums. lol
aa is for you know whats
Day1 of asking you to play the crappies Sam in the game Strela
the review bombing has begun if you havent already leave a bad review on steam, its time we did something as a community!!!!!!
its so funny to me that people talk man shit about cas but then aa can do this. it takes like 4-5 times more sp to spawn into an aircraft and they can be taken out just as easy. how can this me countered? some people may say oh fly low under radar blah play but then you get every tank tryna main gun or 50 call you and things like a 2s38 with proxy top tier is a cluster fuck it makes no sense to spend all these point on an aircraft if you gonna be taken out without a chance of seeing the aa