Hydroponic Potato Harvest
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2017
- This is a continuation of the potatoes I have growing in my FAWN system. I had 9 containers grow Rooster and Red Norland potatoes. These potatoes were dying back. Well 2 were for sure. I ended up getting a good deal of potatoes, but it took 3 pots to do it. If I can get this much out of one pot, I'll have reached where I want to be. Enjoy the potato reveal! Potatoes were greenhouse grown in what's known as a modified hydroponic dutch bucket system using rice hulls as the medium and Masterblend as the nutrient.
WHAT IS HYDROPONIC? FOR THOSE DOUBTING. The purest form is "Water Culture" where plants grow directly in a solution that provides the nutrients they need. However, there are tons of media used as well. Most use media as a carrier of the solution and to support the plant offering stability to the roots. The media is most often sterile and can include ANYTHING such as the rice hulls I use in this video, peat, perlite, rocks, pebbles, sand, grow stones, hydroton, coco coir, rockwool, gravel, sawdust, or just about anything you can imagine. It can also include mats such as hemp, fiber, wood, etc. If one is to grow root crops hydroponically, it is essential to grow in a favorable grow media because they don't grow in water well at all. I pinned this because people keep saying, "This isn't hydroponics", and for those who say it, please do some research, hydroponics is a rich environment NOT restricted to perceptions of the few. Don't take my word for it. Google "Hydroponic Grow Media" and read up on for yourself. Also, do a search in CZcams for "Hydroponic Drip Systems." After reading a little on both, this video may make more sense. Always here to answer questions: c3voyage@gmail.com
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WHAT IS HYDROPONIC? FOR THOSE DOUBTING. The purest form is "Water Culture" where plants grow directly in a solution that provides the nutrients they need. However, there are tons of media used as well. Most use media as a carrier of the solution and to support the plant offering stability to the roots. The media is most often sterile and can include ANYTHING such as the rice hulls I use in this video, peat, perlite, rocks, pebbles, sand, grow stones, hydroton, coco coir, rockwool, gravel, sawdust, or just about anything you can imagine. It can also include mats such as hemp, fiber, wood, etc. If one is to grow root crops hydroponically, it is essential to grow in a favorable grow media because they don't grow in water well at all. I pinned this because people keep saying, "This isn't hydroponics", and for those who say it, please do some research, hydroponics is a rich environment NOT restricted to perceptions of the few. Don't take my word for it. Google "Hydroponic Grow Media" and read up on for yourself. Also, do a search in CZcams for "Hydroponic Drip Systems." After reading a little on both, this video may make more sense. Always here to answer questions: c3voyage@gmail.com
Hydroponic Gardening & More with Brent
Do you think any or a combo of Cocoa choir, Pearlite, pete or other common media could be used? I don't know where to find rice hauls. Thank you!
Yes
With all the challenge regarding FAWN being hydroponic, you'd think none of these folks every researched how Marijuana has been grown for decades now with various substrate media - coco coir/perlite w/ maybe vermiculite, growstones/coco coir, rockwool, etc. I'd like to try PBH but the ship costs are astronomical - it more than doubles the cost of the PBH... So I'm still back with coco coir/perlite but do now use rockwool slabs for my tomatoes that would integrate very well with your FAWN set up.
Thanks for the clarification! I was very confused until you posted this. Sounds like you use a medium that isn’t soil, but acts as a way for the potatoes to grow using hydroponic nutrients. Interesting stuff
Just a quick question, I know this is hydroponics but have you done a comparison with normal soil vs this modified dutch bucket system? I'm just curious what the benifit is, do the potatoes grow faster in this system?
Excellent! Thank you for sharing your harvest with us!
Looks like a good amount for a bucket. They looked great once they were cleaned up. Great job!
Thank you. Sure appreciate you stopping in Ms. Lisa.
Thank you for sharing your hydroponic potato harvest you are truly awesome and wonderful ^^
thank you CG.
Those suckers sure are pretty when they're cleaned up. Harvesting those potatoes is a little like unwrapping Christmas presents.
lol. Yes. Looking at a broccoli potato soup today. Mmmmmmm.
Both my grandkiddos love potato bucket harvests. They think its a ball to find all the potatoes. I grow mainly mini fingerling types so they have to hunt carefully lol. But I am trying German Butterball this year lol
nice haul, Brent
I appreciate the kind words. I want to improve significantly though. I'm going to work on it diligently.
Pretty amazing dude!
Thank you. :O)
your roots look healthy lovl
:O)
Not a bad harvest!
Not too bad for me. :O)
They look good
Thank you.
Love red potatoes. I wish my potato harvest will be something like yours and you have more to go:-)
Ms Jo, I think you'll put me to shame!
No way. You are the expert. I am learning a lot from you. Thank you, you are very kind.
this is amazing
👍
Did you have to do any hilling with the hydro set up as the plant progressed? I know they do hilling in soil. In outdoor soil grows it has various benefits to fight off frost and pest. I'm running a Coco ebb and flow recirculating system. Running potatoes for the first time. Just had my seedlings pop. Was wondering if I plant lower and hill or just plant low and let it grow? Thanks! Love your set up! So inspiring!!!!
I don't hill, but I plant near bottom of container with 12" of mix on top. They will grow through that depth just fine.
Not too shabby. I have a raised potato bed and a 60 gallon trash can with several layers of potatoes to see how that works. So far the container plants look every bit as good or better than the raised bed. If the container produces at all decently, next year I'll cut holes in the sides at different levels to allow the plants to grow outside the container and make it easier to plant additional layers.
Sounds like a good plan Jeff!
Well done Brent. I know you are going to improve. Have a great evening my friend. Best wishes Bob.
Thanks Bob. Have a great evening yourself buddy.
I couldn't believe some of the comments here rejecting this method as NOT hydroponics. For the nay sayers...Coco, as with clay pebbles, perlite and rockwool (or combinations) are the predominant substrates used in hydroponic growing both commercial and hobby growers, as well as cannibis. These substrates hold the plant in place giving it stability and is generally referred to as passive hydroponics. root vegetables are commercially grown this way in bato/Dutch buckets. I read an article that stated nearly all vegetables, including potatoes, beets, carrots, parsnips, etc in the Netherlands are hydroponically grown within poly tunnels. In fact using these substrates the growing methods are identical to growing in soil. So hydroponics is more about the nutrient flow and not about the medium or lack of it. But Brent I think recirculating would be easier and far cheaper than drain to waste. Just my two cents.
I agree.
Good harvest, live in an apartment I'm going to try this in containers
Best to you on it.
Great man
:O)
Thanks!
No problem!
Just thinking after reading some comments, I wonder if you put a layer of rock wool chunks in the bottom then seed potatoes the some more rockwool on top..... Any thoughts?
My only thoughts are that it'd be expensive.
Interesting - your FAWN hybrid system. I'd like to add the FAWN system to my hydro greenhouse. The flow to waste is very attractive feature along with adopting Larry's gutter concept. I'm not seeing any videos on how you grow in that system only harvests. do you have a video on how you grew potatoes in your FAWN system? I would think you'd need to stack a couple buckets on each other to achieve proper growth of the stolons and eventually the tubers themselves. Please put up a video that shows how you planted and grew the potatoes. Thanks.
I'm not using FAWN at the moment, but a potato grow may come up in the future. The gutter is essentially a wicking reservoir and it's not in my future plans vs another type of reservoir. I have a few videos on how FAWN is put together. If you go FAWN, use 10+ gallon containers for potatoes and sweets, same concept. Here's a video on "FAWN": czcams.com/video/AueuYVUJp2A/video.html. Do a channel search for more.
STILL GOOD 😅
Can you elaborate on your grow medium "mix" a little further for you potato buckets?
1) You mention rice hulls... is the grow medium 100% or is there "other" medium in with it?
2) Would you use this same "grow medium" for other veg plants, like beets, carrots, turnips..?
3) Do you re use the grow medium or do you have to discard to compost pile?
Nice video - thanks
Sure can! Take a look at this video: czcams.com/video/acKwHQkfvfw/video.html
I grow everything in it. Basically, if you're using a system that allows for some debris as I do with FAWN, any inert medium works great. Peat, perlite, rice hulls, and yes, even regular old cheap potting mix. I've used them all. I use it on everything and I developed FAWN to support all types of growing. There's videos showing me growing everything you can imagine including beets, carrots, and turnips. :O) I use the medium for one season usually, but I've also collected it and used it for two seasons after it's sat in the weather piled up for a few months. It rinses out smaller particles and salts by then.
Thanks Brent.. I watched it!.. I'm on the look out for rice hulls..
Not hydro. It takes more than adding water to be a hydro setup. By your rationale, all plants are grown hydroponically.
Incorrect. It is hydro using water-soluble fertilizer, drip fed, and an inert media--rice hulls. It's common to use all manner of media in hydro drip setups. Are you not familiar with the various types of hydroponic systems and the various types of media? A simple search online will give you lots of information.
@@C3Voyage rice hulls aren't an "inert media". They are an organic media that breaks down over time due to bacteria in them, providing all of the nutrients the plants need. You are literally growing them in compost, it just didn't start composting until you planted them.
@@ancapftw9113 You are sort of correct in some definitions for what the word inert may be defined as, but you're not here for the bigger picture. You're here to debate verbiage instead of the bigger point. Here's a definition off the Internet that supports what I'm talking about if you take the word to absolute literal meaning: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inert
Definition of inert
1: lacking the power to move
2: very slow to move or act : SLUGGISH
3: deficient in active properties
Rice hulls barely decompose after a very, very long time. If they sit in a rich and mixed soil web, then of course they'll break down much faster than if they're in a hydro setup. Here's a scientific article that explains why: www.mdpi.com/2079-9276/7/2/31/htm
"Due to the high content of silica in rice hulls, the material burns with difficulty under natural conditions, and it is biodegradably destroyed only with difficulty, when composted."
You are wrong about the value of VERY composted rice hulls offer on their own. Compost is only good as the material used to make the compost. It's because of what they're made of and many consider them a very poor soil additive to break down. Essentially, those using it are using it similar to perlite--a fluffing agent.
The bigger point is that rice hulls are literally used as hydro media along with others that some might not consider hydro media like peat moss and potting mix. Any material you can imagine just about can be a hydroponic medium. A simple search for "hydroponic mediums" will give you lots of materials. I know you won't take this well. Most people are right-fighters no matter what, but I figure it's more considerate to relay my point than just to delete your comment. Best to you.
@@ancapftw9113 Oh, a suggestion (and test): Buy some rice hulls and put them in a bucket with holes. The experiment is not expensive. Water them a few times a week and see how many weeks/years you have to do it before you notice them as useful compost. I tend to give advice off of experience instead of hearsay and I have already done what I'm suggesting to you.
I wish there was info on the setup, soil in the bucket, nutrients, etc.
Modified dutch buckets (hydro drip) using rice hulls as a medium and Masterblend water-soluble as the nutrients.
Based on what I have just seen, if we filled a pot with soil and planted the potato on top, it would yield the same amount of potato with out back filling as it grows?
No, not at all. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but if you detail it more specifically, I'll comment more.
@@C3Voyage The cluster of potatoes seem to grow near the top and the water roots go down.
Not bad but I wonder if the size of the bucket limited you or if they needed some additional nutrient in order to be bigger or create more of them in each container?
Yes, me too. It's worth exploring.
@@C3Voyage I hope you'll do some more videos with some tweaks to this, as I'm really interested in growing hydroponically and really like the idea of being able to avoid the bugs and disease that happens when things are planted outdoors in soil. I did a similar experiment with broccoli in a double cup with liquid nutrient in the bottom and I got heads of broccoli on both plants but one was slow and they both did not get full sized.
Starting up a hydroponic growing business and thinking of growing various herbs and vegetables, got any tips? Definitely want to grow potatoes and indeterminate tomatoes
Not really. No experience.
About the same number of potatoes i got in a soil grow in a bucket of similar size, but yours are bigger!
I have to tell you that I struggle with potato grow consistency. Been trying for years to lock it down.
@@C3Voyage That's encouraging ! ;+}
Do you have a plan to try and improve ? I would guess that your nutrient solution and frequency of feeds or duration, might have some impact. From my experience of growing in soil in containers, watering and consistency is the element that affects the size and yield the most and secondary is fertilizing or no fertilizer if the soil is good. Of course good seed potatoes helps to. Cheers. :-)
YES. I'm checking out varieties of potato. One time, I had a great grow with Red Pontiac. It might be the go-to potato, but none this year. I'm also checking the amount of drippers per container. I tested medium depth at planting this year. I tested medium aeration this year (less parboiled rice hulls this year for a more dense mix than last time). I also tested planting a completely filling the pot vs covering as they grow (sorta). The cover as they grow got away from me. Still working this sucker.
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Hey Brent. the potatoes look good. do you think maybe the container size is holding them back?
No, I don't think so. I've had better harvests myself and I've seen too many great grows from the UK channels I follow. I think it's something I'm doing or the variety. I'll figure it out. Now, with sweet potatoes, sure could be pot size. Working on that too H2O.
keep up the hard work.
Nice dude! Even weighed it
Thanks!
I'm wondering how long from seed to harvest with wick coir hydroponic potatoes like you have done here :)
Lordy, I wish I could remember.
where did you get the seed for the potatoes. Did those varieties work well for you?
Walmart believe it or not. :O) They did grow well for me. Look for the term "organic" which means you're likely not to get a chemical application that prevents germination. It's what I did.
Hi, do you re-use growing media after harvesting the potatoes?
I do.
Hydroponic Gardening & More with Brent cool. How do you recondition it?
A 5 lb bag of potatoes is 1.47 a lot easier and cheaper to buy a bag of potatoes. Seed potatoes are 6.00 for ten of them. I am a gardener i plant potatoes that have started to grow chits on them from my refrigerator. Now thats fun.
I agree! The potatoes I've grown for 3 generations now started out as Walmart potatoes.
I can get seed potatoes locally for .99 per lb.
Where do you get rice hulls?
Local nurseries here in central Arkansas for aged. Parboiled explained here in this video: czcams.com/video/68vPMJWdbqs/video.html
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Thanks!
How many plants did u put in a pot ??
I tried to find it, but couldn't so I can't say for sure. Back then it was likely 2 whole potatoes per pot.
How long to is the growth time before you can harvest?
90-120 IIRC.
@@C3Voyage I'm sorry I dont know what that means. I'm new to this
@@stormsaylor6475 90 to 120 days if I recall correctly.
Is this method considered hydroponics. No sarcasm I’m ignorant when it comes to this so I’m just curious.
It's known as a hydroponic drip system otherwise known as a modified "dutch bucket" system. You can read a few comments here in this video where I talk to others about it. Good question Brandon.
the buckets are too small try 30 litre containers they are a good size
Do you have any idea about hydroponic ?
Yes, I have extensive knowledge about hydroponics. What's your specific question?
Right. Seems like a lot of dirt for a hydroponic system
2d time to answer: Not dirt Robert, rice hulls. Hydro can be any inert media or substrate. Take a look at the back and forth between Justin and me in these comments. Ask anything you like after that ok.
First search in Google under "Hydroponic Mediums" for you to check out as well:
gpnmag.com/article/alternative-hydroponic-substrates/
Yamel
The nutrients come from the water. The media is none nutritive. This is Hydroponics.
Should wash them first. That dirt is pretty caked on there for weighing them.
I've always been taught not to wash potatoes before storage. If it's weight for contest, you can subtract whatever you like from the total. I'm ok with it.
They needed more time to size up. The tops should be totally dried. Nice taters though.
I've read a few sites that state potato tubers mature in 70 days for early types, 80 for mid-season types, and 90 for late-season types. If I plant a mid-season type in March, maturity would then be late June. Do you think the potato plant will completely dry by then indicating they are ready? Or, do you think it'll keep growing for a couple months and the potatoes will begin sprouting or rotting? I'm curious as I'm trying to nail down the potato grows.
As long as you don't get too much rain they won't rot. I have found they store quite well in the ground, however, I don't think I have left them for more than maybe 3 weeks after they tops die back. You can always test it by leaving a few in the ground longer. Also, the maturity is determined by the variety. Have a look here... www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/potato/types-of-potatoes.htm
I'm unique in that I grow hydroponically, they remain wet/moist. I haven't seen much on hdyro-taters on YT. I'm familiar with earlies, mids, and lates being 70/80/90-ish days to maturity. Research shows all that and I do try and do my research. In my case, however, my plants remain healthy past the maturity dates listed on most sites OR in some cases, I've had insect damage ending the season prematurely. Then there's the case of Red Norlands not being a large sized potato. I did get some good size ones on whites. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/AB7VQLL-QFA/video.html
I am still very lacking on where I want to be with potatoes, so I have a question in to Dan at "Allotment Diary" just now on his September 2017 reveal. His container spuds are consistently amazing. I'd like to get some feedback from him to get better.
There's another guy, called "Baconsoda" on YT and he grows well in containers as well. He leaves his in this greenhouse for months past cutting tops. They stay good for a really long time if they can remain dry just like you mention. Because of that, once I know the taters are the best they can be, I know I can remove them from the hydroponic drip system, cut the tops and just let them sit there till I need them.
I sure appreciate the feedback on all this. I hope you follow along and I hope to present some better results in the future.
I'm deeply confused.
Ok.
No cure?
This video is over 3 years ago. Can you clarify?
@@C3Voyage for the potatoes. We've always left them in the ground after the tops die off so the skin thickens. Some people call it curing.
hydroponic: Uses soil.
Not sure what that means, but I encourage you to read the top, pinned comment for my stance on it.
You have a pound of dirt on them,wash before you weight
I'm ok with that. Let's call it 4lbs then. :O)
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Am I missing something? they look like you grew them in dirt outside with natural light / lifecycle. how is that hydroponic?
Potatoes were greenhouse grown in what's known as a modified hydroponic dutch bucket system using rice hulls as the medium and Masterblend as the nutrient. Lots of info on dutch buckets if you search on YT. Thanks for the input. I put it in the description for others to see.
My Question Exactly
But the nutrition...
Hey Du! Did you have a question for me?
How are these hydroponic?
Read my top, pinned comment to find out. :O)
May I ask what's the point of calling this "Hyrdroponics potatoes"???
A hydroponic drip system uses an inert media where nutrient-rich water flows into. You may have heard of dutch buckets? This is a modified version of the same concept. You'll see all manner of drip system on CZcams. It's the most common of hydroponic systems. I grow in rice hulls as a media. Any inert media can be used. I call it hydroponic because that's what everyone else calls it and really, that's what it is. Not to be confused with water culture variations however.
@@C3Voyage so you're using hydroponic nutrients and drip system on regular soil, I guess. I'm just used to hydroponic being closed soiless loop. Was interested to see how they'd look growing without dirt.
Thanks for the reply.
I think you missed the part where I said I grow in rice hulls. No dirt. My system is a recirculating (closed) system.
@@C3Voyage I did, I started skipping the video because it looked like dirt. There are so many click baiters than there are new and innovative ways I have never seen before.
I'm glad I asked, thanks again.
There's a bunch of shit out there for sure led by greed, but I have integrity and I try and answer every comment. I enjoy conversing with folks when I have the time too. All the best Moe.
good harvest but not hydroponics .. just good watering system with dirt replacement.. dirt is just a media as well ... good job on growing the potatoes not really hydro though.. i grow many different veggies in my green house no media ... dutch buckets no media just water. thats the original intent of hydro
As long as the medium is inert, it can be used in hydro systems. Tons of info on the web. Dutch buckets usually contain perlite because people see others do it on YT and copy. What I did is exactly hydro. Did you read my top pinned comment? Hydro means plants get their needs from a solution, not the media. Here's an article from Johnny's Seeds: www.johnnyseeds.com/growers-library/hydroponic-grow-media-common-types.html Here's another one: www.trees.com/gardening-and-landscaping/growing-media and another one: www.herbexaminer.com/hydroponics/hydroponic-mediums/ There are a whole lot more links if you Google "Hydroponic Medium." It's always good to learn if you're up for it. No harm, no foul. :O)
I have been debating Potato because the yield in every single video I watch is not that good.. .2-3-4- seeds does not seem to matter I think the most I have seen is about 15 tots out of 1 pot.... the yield is low, the value is low but I mean... we always have a dozen that go bad b4 we eat them so might as well plant them I guess...
My personal goal is 10lbs in a 5-gallon container. Check out "Allotment Diary". He has great returns in his containers.
That's drip irrigation not hydroponics.
I have extensive knowledge in all forms of hydro if you haven't watched many of my vids. Lots of ways to reply here. How about I just ask what you think hydroponics is?? Then we can go from there.
get more out of half a bale of straw
I've always found that the skill of the gardener is a key factor. I'm not the best with potatoes.
What us hydroponic about this? I must be blond.
Jolanda, I answered this common question in the top, pinned comment. Check that out and then, if you think it's not hydroponic, comment again.
@jolanda its called dutch bucket hydroponic you moron
I thought it's hydroponic?
Yes. Lots of hydroponic methods these days. :O)
That is not hydroponic.
Why isn't it?
Looks like alot of dirt to be hydroponics
Not dirt Robert, rice hulls. Hydro can be any inert media or substrate. Take a look at the back and forth between Justin and me in these comments. Ask anything you like after that ok.
This is not Hydroponic. I think this guy don't know what Hydroponic means.
Before I comment, I'd ask you tell me what you think it means. I have extensive knowledge and experience, but I can't spout all of it right here in a comment. So tell me what you think I misunderstand or don't know first. Seriously, no insult. Just want to clarify my position on your comment.
@@C3Voyage I think his idea of hydroponics from the internet would be spraying a jet of water on the plant's root directly. Coz that's mostly what I've seen too. Other setups are not so well explained. Can you explain yours a bit?
@@ashwinsnmv Sure, it can get confusing for some. Here's a great article on the varying types of hydroponics: www.epicgardening.com/hydroponic-systems/
You can also type in "dutch buckets" in the CZcams search and get lots of variants on mine, a type of hydroponic drip system.
Hydroponic????? Yes no yes nope. As I see it not realy Hrydroponics.
Understand. My opinion is the pinned top comment. Thing is, my opinion is really based on what the majority of stuff out there states. To me, the terminology doesn't matter. The one thing that can't be disputed is that I grew these in aged riced hulls, where the University of Arkansas research shows how little hulls offer as a substrate, and the plants had all of their needs met by a water-soluble fertilizer that is more often than not, considered a hydroponic fertilizer. In fact, I use the fertilizer in my current aerated water culture beds. Curious as to what you term hydroponics is? What would you call how this grew based on what I've said and also, what is hydroponics to you Denis?
Brent is very polite with some of you people. Me.. not so much. Read up on Hydroponics before making comments that shows your lack of hydroponic knowledge. When the medium has no nutrition for the plant and all the nutrition is delivered via water whether it be a reservoir ,drip system, dutch bucket etc. THAT'S HYDROPONICS! SMH