You read my mind. I was wondering about running over the hay. Also, your explanation of the geographic differences in your area that cause different farming techniques was interesting, too. Thx
Man thats a nice mower. Should cut down on the mowing time. I'm over near South Boston and the grass hay here is almost nothing. The weather has been crazy this spring.
Must be different climate conditions. Here if we wheel track hay it stays wetter and gives you slugs when baling, Average dry down 2.5 days in the windrow for 15%. But I can see real dry ground sucking up moisture from a mat. We wheel rake the day of baling 2 to 1 and gain a couple of points. Hay gonna be short here not much early rain. Good show.
That's true about the run over hay. The only way it can suck is if you get rain on it when it's down and where it's been run over it always takes lo get to dry down
That is a nice machine, you will really enjoy the functionality of the center pivot especially getting around obstacles in the field like electric poles & trees. Once you try one its hard to go back to a side pull that's for sure. The only thing I would have done different here is started back & forth on the side of the field instead of in the middle to keep from running over the uncut hay that one pass, but no big deal I guess. Nice rig, you've come a long way with your hay operation Dennis.
@@DLHFarms in my neck of the woods, with a machine like yours, we cut around the field 6 rounds. If you rake two windrows together ya got 3 passes with the baler. Once you have ends all done, stay on one side, an only have one area of off running stuff if the field isn’t square. They are beautiful machines, you will enjoy for a long time!
Congratulations on your new cutter. I know you are happy with a new mower. It was a beautiful day there I see. Thanks for sharing hope the family are doing well. 👍👍
That mower is nice. I cut with 3pt mowers, most of my fields have terraces. Being in Georgia, I feel your pain on humidity. You definitely have to dry it as quickly as possible. Great video and good luck with hay season. We are 2 weeks in to ours, and staying after it. See you next time
That is the business Dennis. How do those swaths work out with your rake? But you use a tedder for hay so I guess it doesn't matter as the grass will be scattered anyways. Not much hay in in Ireland, bad unpredictable weather, so we mow, we row, we silage bale and wrap, or lift and chop it with a self propelled harvester, fill trailers and take it to a clamp for silage.
Good Day Dennis. Im trying to find out the studies that show the hay that you drive on while cutting increases dry down. All the articles and studies i see online show otherwise. Could you direct me to the studies that show it doesn't effect the dry down. Looking at buying a mower conditioner , and new holland / case have the widest rollers in the industry This is what one study said in their write up "Another drawback occurs when pull-type mower- conditioners are used: wide swaths are often run over by the tractor tires, which research shows to be detrimental to hay drying.14 A compromise is to make the swath width such that only one side of the tractor runs over the swath. This problem can be avoided with mounted or self-propelled mowers"
That looks like a good mowing Peace up equipment I sure would hate to use that on a Open cab tractor That would be loud noise Man I wish you lived Near me I would get hay from you I got horses and I live in Jonesboro Arkansas you ever heard of that town you got that right I am tired of the weather to it is weird this year my friend noticed you sure have to watch that back tire pretty close when turning you would have that back tire in the equipment keep the good videos coming appreciate it man be safe
Thanks man. Have u thought of getting a self propelled hay cutter. Great video. Love how u explain the equipment to us and how to use it. Thanks again Dennis.
When we cut our 2nd crop (which we dry & large and small square bale), we always lay it down wide and usually ted it the same day. Sometimes we ted it twice if it is thick hay. We then rake it up just in front of the baler.
Same thing happened to mine cold weather and no rain 2021 1st cut looks like my fall cut hope 2nd cut comes on or hay will get expensive this year good for your hay business just hope i have enough to push me through winter. That 2020 extra left over is going to come in handy this year. Demo the heck out of that machine thinking about trading mine in on the exact same mower.
Saw a vid elsewhere Dennis of 2 NH Discbines in Sudan grass that was mostly as high as the tractor cabs , sounds like a 6cylinder would be good on the slopes !
Dennis another great video! It was interesting to see you shift from right to left hand mowing and back. I am curious about your thoughts about the left hand mowing. I see in other comments that you are still getting a feel for it. I guess this feature would allow you to change up how you cut a field. Any other benefits?
Yeah I’m not really good at it yet but the benefit is mow mowing and less driving around the ends with the mower up. You just raise it up make a circle and go right back in the hay.
With our 16' center pivot Mo/Co, we always cut 6 rounds and then went back & forth. It gave us more turn-around room. Also, we'd start on one side and work towards the other side. It reduced the number of "wedges" to just that one side.
We are having the same problem with our Bermuda grass , the temperature's has averaged in high 60's this spring and we have had about 30'' of rain in the last 90 day's . everything is pretty green but not growing .
Actually according to studies done by universities sun is the number one thing that dries hay the fastest because it opens the spores of the plants to let moisture out. Wind was the second most effective, then things like humidity, and ground moisture had the least effect on drying hay.
Hello Dennis, I heard that if your Orchard grass goes to seed head it doesn't grow much after that. We have the same weather and problem here, thinking I should cut to. Are you going to Fertilize again after this cut? We drilled in more seed this year to. Great video Dennis, and Mower 👍👍
Hello it is loud that's for sure. You cut on the 20th should be baled by now. Cutting on the right and left that would be different I think it would be hard to get used to that. Thanks your efforts make this video. See you then, have a good day.
Well on the first feild I tried it on I missed a lot of strips haha but I kinda started getting used to it. Should be a pro by the end of hay season haha.
My Orchard grass didn’t do so well either. That’s a nice mower you got there. Seemed to me that the Deere didn’t like that steep hill with that mower. Did you have to down shift with the old mower? Thanks for the video.
Glad to see the hay bine is working out for you. Maybe the second cutting will be better. What do you think about the left or right swivel on the mower?
@@DLHFarms the cutterbar looks enormous compared to my 1411’s and your old 7230. Pretty neat lookin! Congrats on it buddy. Hope everything’s going good
I enjoyed the video, I like mowing hay and I like the haybine that you have, a few years ago I used a 13ft John Deer moco center pivot, when you had to turn on a side hill sometimes it would push the tractor is yours that heavy?again nice video!
@@DLHFarms I appreciate the reply, I also had some trouble trying to mow looking over the left shoulder, lol,kinda comical good luck with the new mower.
I mowed one of my steepest fields last night every thing was really wet from rain and due. I didn’t really have much trouble from sliding, it would a little if I tried to turn while going down a steep hill. It’s about a 25 degree slope.
@@DLHFarms That's a good deal, I appreciate the come back, I will be keeping up and see how it is doing again it's a nice piece of equipment, good luck with your hay.
2020 was the 6th wettest year on record for SC. But this spring has been so dry, our first cutting isn't going to be worth the fuel required to run the equipment. It isn't going to be a good year for hay.
Do you know where the sound/noise is coming from? I can't recognise it from any European disc mower with crimper I used or heard. Transmission? When you went into thicker grass it didn't change tone. Neither when lifted. Just curious! :D Nice filming and explanations, Dennis!
Just wondering something. Once in awhile kinda like hear a studder as the machine is running or am I hear things. Sounded like a stone one time. Just wondering your thoughts?
I actually can’t look that way very well either so I’ve learned to use the mirror on that side and it works great took some time to get the hang of it.
Dennis, wondering if you know anyone who would cut my field for the free hay, in Meadows of Dan. The gentleman who did it last year apparently has a different phone number.
@@DLHFarms It's right off of the Parkway, off of Rock Church Rd. If you do know of anyone that would be great. Otherwise, thank you for the effort you put into the videos, I'm new to the world of tractors and implements and CZcams is my source for learning how to operate what I have.
I got a kick out of you talking about people saying you shouldn't run over cut grass. The way this machine lays it down reminds me of an old sickle bar cutter. Talk about running over cut grass lol.
Finally we have some rain! The crop farmers are probably happy. Hope it helps the hay business!
Yep now I need some dry weather again haha
Thanks for the video Dennis. Always enjoy every one of them.
Thanks for watching Josh!
Great new mower. Love the camera angles. Beautiful countryside.👍🙂
Thanks!
You read my mind. I was wondering about running over the hay. Also, your explanation of the geographic differences in your area that cause different farming techniques was interesting, too. Thx
Yeah it’s very hard to dry hay here I hardly ever have to worry about over drying the hay so I do everything possible to dry it as fast as possible.
ha it's like you were reading my mind when i was watching this, and you answered all my questions at the end! Good job, great vid as always.
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Great video Dennis. Always love the hay videos. Looks like a nice mower.
Thanks!
Nice mower my friend...crop looks great..just looks really thin coming out the mower...
Good morning Dennis hope you an your family is all doing well an nice machine it's doing a nice job
Thanks!
@@DLHFarms your welcome
Man thats a nice mower. Should cut down on the mowing time. I'm over near South Boston and the grass hay here is almost nothing. The weather has been crazy this spring.
Yep I feel your pain.
Mowers looking great 👍
Thanks!
Must be different climate conditions. Here if we wheel track hay it stays wetter and gives you slugs when baling, Average dry down 2.5 days in the windrow for 15%. But I can see real dry ground sucking up moisture from a mat. We wheel rake the day of baling 2 to 1 and gain a couple of points. Hay gonna be short here not much early rain. Good show.
It takes about 3 days here and that’s with tedding twice
That's true about the run over hay. The only way it can suck is if you get rain on it when it's down and where it's been run over it always takes lo get to dry down
Thanks Dennis from Georgian Bay.
Great awesome video Dennis , great new machine to cut hay , we have one too
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Good video.The cold and dry weather really put a hurting on the hay crop in South-Central VA.
It is starting to look a little better after we got some rain over the last week.
That is a nice machine, you will really enjoy the functionality of the center pivot especially getting around obstacles in the field like electric poles & trees. Once you try one its hard to go back to a side pull that's for sure. The only thing I would have done different here is started back & forth on the side of the field instead of in the middle to keep from running over the uncut hay that one pass, but no big deal I guess. Nice rig, you've come a long way with your hay operation Dennis.
That’s a good idea. I’m still learning that’s how I had to do it with the side pull. I’ll figure it out
@@DLHFarms in my neck of the woods, with a machine like yours, we cut around the field 6 rounds. If you rake two windrows together ya got 3 passes with the baler. Once you have ends all done, stay on one side, an only have one area of off running stuff if the field isn’t square. They are beautiful machines, you will enjoy for a long time!
Congratulations on your new cutter. I know you are happy with a new mower. It was a beautiful day there I see. Thanks for sharing hope the family are doing well. 👍👍
Thanks been out cutting with it today
Seems like it's doing you a good job. It seems like it works the tractor a little harder but the deere can handle it.
Mostly cause that’s a steep hill. Had to gear down with the other mower there also.
That mower is nice. I cut with 3pt mowers, most of my fields have terraces. Being in Georgia, I feel your pain on humidity. You definitely have to dry it as quickly as possible. Great video and good luck with hay season. We are 2 weeks in to ours, and staying after it. See you next time
Good luck!
That is the business Dennis. How do those swaths work out with your rake? But you use a tedder for hay so I guess it doesn't matter as the grass will be scattered anyways. Not much hay in in Ireland, bad unpredictable weather, so we mow, we row, we silage bale and wrap, or lift and chop it with a self propelled harvester, fill trailers and take it to a clamp for silage.
Still works good to have a Tedder that will cover two passes so I got one big enough to do that. Videos coming on that in the future.
I got the 312 with the 2 pt swivel hitch last year and love it! Can knock down a lot of hay in a hurry! 👍🏻
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Great video thank you for making it 👍👍😀
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Good Day Dennis. Im trying to find out the studies that show the hay that you drive on while cutting increases dry down. All the articles and studies i see online show otherwise. Could you direct me to the studies that show it doesn't effect the dry down.
Looking at buying a mower conditioner , and new holland / case have the widest rollers in the industry
This is what one study said in their write up "Another drawback occurs when pull-type mower- conditioners are used: wide swaths are often run over by the tractor tires, which research shows to be detrimental to
hay drying.14 A compromise is to make the swath width such that only one side of the tractor runs over the swath. This problem can be avoided with mounted or self-propelled mowers"
That looks like a good mowing Peace up equipment I sure would hate to use that on a Open cab tractor That would be loud noise Man I wish you lived Near me I would get hay from you I got horses and I live in Jonesboro Arkansas you ever heard of that town you got that right I am tired of the weather to it is weird this year my friend noticed you sure have to watch that back tire pretty close when turning you would have that back tire in the equipment keep the good videos coming appreciate it man be safe
Yes you have to watch the tire but that’s true on any mower. It does have a tire guard on the machine though.
Love the sound of a discbine
Can’t say that I love the sound but I like mowing with them.
I used one of those haybines with a 4440 and it was 14 foot cut I loved to swing it around at the end of the rows it was slick
Yeah they work slick.
Hey there, Seems like it is working well so far.
Thanks Dennis.
Thank you!
Thanks man. Have u thought of getting a self propelled hay cutter. Great video. Love how u explain the equipment to us and how to use it. Thanks again Dennis.
Can’t afford a $250,000 machine just to cut 200 acres.
@@DLHFarms I understand that. The equipment these days are getting way to expensive and then u have all the government crap added on that too.
When we cut our 2nd crop (which we dry & large and small square bale), we always lay it down wide and usually ted it the same day. Sometimes we ted it twice if it is thick hay. We then rake it up just in front of the baler.
That’s normally what I do also sometimes i tedd 3 or more times
I'm looking to buy one so I appreciate the content.
super curious about the head land though?
with that machine why not cut it first then carry on?
We're the opposite here in Southern Oklahoma, Texoma..a lot of rain 🌧. Cutting Oats here.
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Same thing happened to mine cold weather and no rain 2021 1st cut looks like my fall cut hope 2nd cut comes on or hay will get expensive this year good for your hay business just hope i have enough to push me through winter. That 2020 extra left over is going to come in handy this year. Demo the heck out of that machine thinking about trading mine in on the exact same mower.
I bought it. I like it a lot.
Saw a vid elsewhere Dennis of 2 NH Discbines in Sudan grass that was mostly as high as the tractor cabs , sounds like a 6cylinder would be good on the slopes !
Yeah they can mow. That was a steep slope and I was still going over 5mph.
She looks like she is doing a good job
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How does the JD like pulling something not green Dennis 😂😂
It’s used to it. All my hay equipment is red haha
Dennis another great video! It was interesting to see you shift from right to left hand mowing and back. I am curious about your thoughts about the left hand mowing. I see in other comments that you are still getting a feel for it. I guess this feature would allow you to change up how you cut a field. Any other benefits?
Yeah I’m not really good at it yet but the benefit is mow mowing and less driving around the ends with the mower up. You just raise it up make a circle and go right back in the hay.
Dennis what happened to that nut grass problem in a field you sprayed a couple years ago. Thank you for the vids God bless you and yours
Don’t know what nut grass is. 🤔
We have been so wet in south east Texas that we can't even get in the fields yet.
We finally got some rain now it looks like it’s here to stay.
I like the center pivot and the way it spreads the hay so wide. Does the new cutting width mess with your tedding and raking?
It did mess up my Tedding with the old Tedder but I’ve got a solution to that coming soon.
With our 16' center pivot Mo/Co, we always cut 6 rounds and then went back & forth. It gave us more turn-around room. Also, we'd start on one side and work towards the other side. It reduced the number of "wedges" to just that one side.
I’m learning never used one before
@@DLHFarms Yup. The "left side cutting" takes awhile to get use to. Good luck. You got a very nice/good mo/co there Dennis.
We are having the same problem with our Bermuda grass , the temperature's has averaged in high 60's this spring and we have had about 30'' of rain in the last 90 day's . everything is pretty green but not growing .
Hope it gets better for you!
sun does ok, but wind dries hay quicker. that's why tedders fluff up the hay , so wind can get thru more of it
nice mower btw!
Actually according to studies done by universities sun is the number one thing that dries hay the fastest because it opens the spores of the plants to let moisture out. Wind was the second most effective, then things like humidity, and ground moisture had the least effect on drying hay.
Hello Dennis, I heard that if your Orchard grass goes to seed head it doesn't grow much after that. We have the same weather and problem here, thinking I should cut to.
Are you going to Fertilize again after this cut? We drilled in more seed this year to.
Great video Dennis, and Mower 👍👍
I typically do fertilize what I’m going to square bale.
You did right...it was done growing...start fresh...itll explode
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Hello it is loud that's for sure. You cut on the 20th should be baled by now. Cutting on the right and left that would be different I think it would be hard to get used to that. Thanks your efforts make this video. See you then, have a good day.
Left hand mowing is still difficult for me but I haven’t done it much yet I should be able to get used to it over time hopefully.
Is your hay short this year? We had almost zero rain fall in April down here around Raleigh
Yes definitely
How’d you go getting used to the end turns and mowing over your left shoulder? Takes some practice haha
Well on the first feild I tried it on I missed a lot of strips haha but I kinda started getting used to it. Should be a pro by the end of hay season haha.
My Orchard grass didn’t do so well either. That’s a nice mower you got there. Seemed to me that the Deere didn’t like that steep hill with that mower. Did you have to down shift with the old mower? Thanks for the video.
Yes had to downshift with it also it’s a steep hill. Power wise they pull about the same.
Glad to see the hay bine is working out for you. Maybe the second cutting will be better. What do you think about the left or right swivel on the mower?
I love it. We got some rain and the hay really jumped this week looks a lot better.
I’m not much of a fan of new holland mowers anymore from personal experience but shew wee that’s a sweet lookin and sounding machine
Yeah I wasn’t going to get a NH until I figured out they had beefed this one up.
@@DLHFarms the cutterbar looks enormous compared to my 1411’s and your old 7230. Pretty neat lookin! Congrats on it buddy. Hope everything’s going good
You answered my question. Can you swing the mower side to side while mowing
I think u can
Absolutely
Lower areas colder than high areas. Heat rises and cold settles during the night.
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How do you like the 313? We are thinking about updating. We have a 1431. Thanks for making this video!!
Really like it. Seems like a well built machine.
Now that you have a disc bine that swings are you going to start mowing from one side of field to other instead of splitting field?
Yes I think so.
I enjoyed the video, I like mowing hay and I like the haybine that you have, a few years ago I used a 13ft John Deer moco center pivot, when you had to turn on a side hill sometimes it would push the tractor is yours that heavy?again nice video!
It’s pretty heavy about 6500 pounds. Not sure yet how bad it’s going to push me.
@@DLHFarms I appreciate the reply, I also had some trouble trying to mow looking over the left shoulder, lol,kinda comical good luck with the new mower.
I mowed one of my steepest fields last night every thing was really wet from rain and due. I didn’t really have much trouble from sliding, it would a little if I tried to turn while going down a steep hill. It’s about a 25 degree slope.
@@DLHFarms That's a good deal, I appreciate the come back, I will be keeping up and see how it is doing again it's a nice piece of equipment, good luck with your hay.
ur hay is better then ours.. & we're not getting much rain so im thinking we're going 2 have short hay..
We finally got rain now according to the forecast it’s not going to go away. Good luck with your hay!
@@DLHFarms thanks :) mail me some will ya.. :)
Haha
2020 was the 6th wettest year on record for SC. But this spring has been so dry, our first cutting isn't going to be worth the fuel required to run the equipment. It isn't going to be a good year for hay.
I thought the same thing but what I mowed last night was really good.
wow that thing cuts fast what mph are you running?
Between 5.5 and 7.2 mph
Hey Denis have you ever watched Ted Kahler's channel I think he's got a 316 NH discbine. Holy $hit does he fly with that thing
Yeah he helped me decide to buy this one.
Them disc mowers like that just about eat anything you want to put through it from native grass to 10 foot tall sedan grass that mower will eat
Pretty much.
Do you know where the sound/noise is coming from? I can't recognise it from any European disc mower with crimper I used or heard. Transmission? When you went into thicker grass it didn't change tone. Neither when lifted. Just curious! :D Nice filming and explanations, Dennis!
What sound are you talking about? Everything sounds normal to me about it.
@@DLHFarms The high dB higher pitch sound about 2-4 kHz. Usually Europeans have softer sound insulating covers and skirts.
That’s just how a discbine sounds here
@@DLHFarms Okiedokie! You can fix it with more hayfields and a Krone Big M then? Haha!
Just wondering something. Once in awhile kinda like hear a studder as the machine is running or am I hear things. Sounded like a stone one time. Just wondering your thoughts?
It’s when I change gears on the tractor
@@DLHFarms Thanks your reply sir have a good day.
Not sure I could get used to mowing to the left, my 60 year old neck only bends to the right 😁
I know what you mean.
I actually can’t look that way very well either so I’ve learned to use the mirror on that side and it works great took some time to get the hang of it.
Alfalfa does better than grasses when dry. I bet that's what happened with hay crop.
Yep
Dennis, wondering if you know anyone who would cut my field for the free hay, in Meadows of Dan. The gentleman who did it last year apparently has a different phone number.
I really can’t take on any more. I might can find someone to do it though. Where is your property?
@@DLHFarms It's right off of the Parkway, off of Rock Church Rd. If you do know of anyone that would be great. Otherwise, thank you for the effort you put into the videos, I'm new to the world of tractors and implements and CZcams is my source for learning how to operate what I have.
Mother Nature's COLD dirt said NO Start to growth then her LACK of RAIN said, Ok, Slow Growth.
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I got a kick out of you talking about people saying you shouldn't run over cut grass. The way this machine lays it down reminds me of an old sickle bar cutter. Talk about running over cut grass lol.
Haha some people get tore up about it but it don’t hurt it.