Here's why the Caged system will UP your solos | Tim Pierce | Brett Papa
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Brett Papa has a brand new 9 1/2 hour downloadable tutorial -
“Caged Unleashed: The Ultimate Guide to Fretboard Mastery”
Click the link And let Brett describe this to you, but some of my favorite quotes were:
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‘Turn Licks into melodies,”
“Create licks with chords in mind,”
“Know how play over chord changes”
”Create your own voice on guitar”
Thanks!
Tim
The great thing about caged is that it totally unravels the mystery of the neck.
The challenge is developing the quickness of mind to really be able to use it in the heat of the moment.
@@Chris-MusicTheoryAndFretboard
Yeah but this is about the journey to getting to that stage, which many pros use. Guthrie Trapp for example is always going on about how he uses it.
Caged is merely a method for 'seeing' the notes around the chords on the fretboard while soloing, a necessary skill.
@@Chris-MusicTheoryAndFretboardI assume they at least think in chords 135 at least. Because how are they going to follow the chord changes? So caged does help cause it just outlines the chords . Caged is really just another tool or perspective for interpreting the guitar
If PRS doesn’t make a Tim Pierce guitar, someone else will. This guy is a legend.
I’ve been playing guitar for over 20 years. This is the thing I’ve been trying to find out for nearly the entire time. Thank you.
Lessons like this are why lessons are important.
lessons like this is why youtube is awesome
I love the way Brett asks questions in my uneducated language. He brings light to elements and then draws them together in a way that helps me to "connect the dots". He does it in a way that I would ask.....what was that "thing" you did there. LOL
Love both these guys - They are among the great players and great modern teachers.
“If you ever thought you were as good as Tim Pierce, you’re not.” This is my head talking to myself. When he explains what he did over Brett at the 6:40 mark is masterful. He’s on a different level than almost everyone.
My guitar heroes used to be players like EVH. Now it's Tim Pierce, Pete Thorn, and Brett Papa. Such cool ambassadors of the fretboard.
Karl Houseknecht well there true professionals not show ponies
Here's one of my favs of modern stuff ...... czcams.com/video/h2RBJwHyiQk/video.html Dude's AMAZING
and Guthrie Trapp
my guitar heroes are Chopin, Rachmaninoff, and Art Tatum
Little wayne
I always had this thought about music theory that is analogous to magic. Before I knew any music theory, hearing the type of things you guys are playing seemed like absolute magic to me! Like how, just how did you come up with that!? But much like magic, once you know the secret behind the trick, the magic is gone... Normally this would be sad 🙁, but then you realise you can now become the magician! It still is a slightly unfortunate thing that knowing these pieces of theory and tips (dare I say tricks) somewhat demystify music and make hearing it a little less perplexing and magical (for me at least). But the satisfaction of being able to understand it and CREATE you're own magic tricks with the guitar make it greatly worth it! Thank you Tom and Brett for all your great videos over the years. You have surely helped me and so many other progress to a place I may have never been without your instruction. Now off I go to David Copperfield my Les Paul!
CAGED is such a great way to map the whole neck and the more you practice it, the more fluid you become with chords and scales. It’s become the cornerstone of my playing and I strongly recommend it to anyone learning to play guitar. Tim knows what’s up!
I’m currently learning my fretboard notes so I can use the caged roots to play arpeggios, modes and triads all over . Funny you know the E ,e and A string off by heart but B G D not so fluent . Plus working on my sequences too
Once i get this down ill feel confident playing with other people. I been a closet player since high school.
@@KyLesCaster It takes a while to get caged down. If you have people to play with I'd take advantage of it asap.
Wow. So nice to hear the professional players do what you do.
Thanks guys.
The concept of playing over changes makes sense. and for players that started off in the blues, its so easy to solo over that root chord and make it sound ok because the other chords fall inside the pentatonic scale, but as some point youll find yourself needing to know how to play over the changes. This video did the best job of explaining it that i've ever seen. Thank you.
Bloody hell, I've played live gigs for 28 years on acoustic guitar, now been going for electric and always wondered about these types of questions. It's like they read my own questions and answered them, so humble, so talented, such nice guys, and this is why we play and connect, for the joynof people like this. Thank you so much for helping like this.
Been playing nearly 50 years and still amazed at how much I DON’T know
yea me too
Same here, my starting point was I knew nothing, now I know little, but I've only been playing 45 years. :)
Yes - I too am a fast learner - been at it 45 years myself - and still trying to figure this stuff out , I have played rhythm in bands because I have developed good muscle memory to make chord transitions smoothly and clean . I have developed a good ear - so can pick up on some songs better than others just by hearing BUT - even after all the years I have been at it - I am only now just beginning to learn scales to try and solo. Slowly becoming better / more fluid in my movement around the fretboard AND relaxed while doing so. ✌️
Coy Carlson Same here man. Got my first electric (a Tele) in 1971. Problem was that I’d go 15 years without playing. Played more in last ten years than ever.
You should've made us a backing track to play along with man.
Wow. 2 minutes in you blew my mind with the idea of playing triads around the neck following the progression to build lead ideas. It’s so “obvious” that I *never* would have thought of it. My head is swimming with ideas now.
I’ve been playing guitar for 35 years. I can play almost anything I hear. Even though I often work around chord shapes, I never really understood the CAGED philosophy until seeing this. Much more user friendly than other videos.
Wow Tim. I understood the concept of the caged system coming from bluegrass and the use of the capo. I just imagined the capo on different areas of the fingerboard but you have lifted the veil just a little more. Thank you 😊
I have been playing for 43 years now. I never have had any formal training in theory. There was no money for lessons back when I started. After learning chords by name and shape, and developing my ear to copy things, I only know what I know. I will spend some time with this video. Thanks Tim.
There is an incredible amount of great lessons on here. These two guys are amazing. Also Rick Beato has a great channel.
I remember watching Guthrie Trapp playing in Key West 20 years ago with a small band for tips. Now he’s getting name dropped by Tim Pierce! Awesome to see him getting the recognition he deserves these days. Good for you Guthrie! And Tim, as always, you rock brother 🤘🏼
Precision Pierce! you are a craftsman! I sure appreciate what you do here online. Thank you
I'm a piano player. If these guys were in my area I would beg them for lessons, not on guitar but on piano. They might think it's crazy but they could impart so much knowledge. First of all the blues language, secondly me holding down a blues rhythm while they solo.
What a great frikkin lesson. The CAGED system gets discussed six ways til Sunday on CZcams, and Tim has explained it in such an applied manner here. Fantastic discussion.
I've heard so many people try to explain caged in so many different ways. I think it's about taking open chord/first fret bar chords and moving them up the neck. Open c chord moved to the 5th fret is a c shaped d chord. This will apply to all the shapes up the neck. Then taking the all those chord shapes and being able to recognize them quickly so you can apply it to solos
I think this might be one of the most important tutorials I’ll watch, I’ve been trying to figure out how to get rid of scale shapes and play over the chords for so long. And that triad playing at the beginning helped me finally understand how jazz guitarists solo using chords and maintain a melodic sound. You’re really doing people a service Tim!
Tim is from planet Guitar, his dynamics are out of this World. Love the way he plays
That was an eye opener for sure . Hearing the 2 of you talking through everything you played, just wonderfully done !
I love this style of playing. Learning triads all over the neck of the guitar really opened up my melodic vocabulary
This is why I've always thought Tim should be knick names Silk. He is just so smooth and fast. The two of you just talking through what you are doing was great. This is a lesson that really shows what the reason for doing what your told about the caged system. By the way, I've always thought my reluctance to the caged system, is the name makes it sound like your controlled by it. It really frees you instead.
Holy shit. Get a load of Brett's guitar collection... salivating at the mouth right now
Thank you Tim! This one video opened up the neck and my playing after 40 years of being in a rut. So simple and so enlightening.
The amount of incredible information that's free to all of us from absolute masters is just crazy to me!
Finally, a chance to get a detailed look inside the playing mind of the amazing TIm Pierce.
The day I first found your videos, Tim, some years ago, was one of the greatest days of my playing life. You have inspired me every day since then.
Brett asked the 2 most important, apt and pertinent questions that's on the minds of every single viewer of your videos, I'm certain, as they have been on my mind since day one.
I can't thank you enough, Tim. Hope we meet on the scene one day. I'd love to have you at my venues here in Australia doing workshops etc.
Pure gold !! Brett Papa asks Tim Pierce the questions I would like to ask. Thanks to Tim and Brett.
Probably one of the most significant lessons of my life !!!
Of all the CZcams guitar videos out there, I’ve never seen one where the neck is showed upside down ie. the same vantage point of someone playing. I put my iPad down on a flat surface for a minute while I was watching this video and what resulted was the video playing upside down and had somewhat of a light bulb moment as I was suddenly able to see the chord shapes and lines from the same vantage point as if I was looking down on the fretboard while playing a guitar. Someone who makes guitar instructional videos should explore this concept! Great video btw
That method of playing the triad first Reminded me of dave Gilmore's solo on time. Nice tip there thanks.
Also the middle of comfortably numb
Well this is about the best guitar lesson I've seen. Hot damn it is great when something finally clicks.
I agree!! ..best guitar lesson ever
Tim is so knowledgeable about music in general, let alone his knowledge of the guitar. He is a true professional on guitar, l hope he makes a piece of his own music in the future and play's it to us on CZcams down the track.
Tim what can I say, beautiful melodic, so fast, I'm speechless.
Absolutely some of the best information about melodic lead playing. Thanks so much.
These two cut through the crap. Bare bones, straight to the point; the most sensical and easy to understand concepts, and why they work....with videos to show you! I hate to put the guitar down now....Thank You, Tim and Papa.
Guys like you make this world a better place! Thanks so much
It’s weird….I started taking piano at 4 yrs old, then picked up a guitar at 13. My brother had a logins and Messina book, and learned how to play some songs, which were mostly cowboy chords.
I was DEEP into Yes, Grand Funk, Tull etc (hey, it was the early 70’s!) I knew a lot about theory from my decade of learning the masters on piano, but was having trouble relating it to the neck. Took me about 6 months, but I basically figured out what everybody is calling the caged system. It’s been a 50 year downhill slide ever since lol
Great video Tim, you’ve become one of my favorite players.
Yes this is one great way to visualize the solos over the neck, and a very effective with the Root, 5ft, and 3rd.
Thanks Tim and Brett
This lesson shouldn’t be free...so much gold here.
Thanks TP and BP!
You're two of the best teachers and players on YT,have been for years! Thanks Brett and Tim
The best exercise in my opinion is to memorise intervals of scales and play them starting from each note on the fretboard and learn to play them vertically (in a close position) on the board as well as horizontally ( wide position ) and practice with eyes shut or tied. 1st you get acquainted with the corresponding chords, 2nd you train your ear by listening to Intervalls and 3rd you are not locked into shapes.
You should do a video showing this concept. My teacher has basically said the same thing but I dont seem to have the attention span to keep at it.
Super great demonstration of melodic soloing! This also reminded me so much of Mark Knopfler.
Always gets amazed watching T.Pierce😊👍👍👍
There is a crazy amount of practical information coming at me through this video. Thank you Tim and Brett! Lifelong drummer turning guitar player here in my 40's. All these things you're talking about make so much sense - thank you for loaning me your brain to get a jump on my guitar playing. So many parallels to drumming regarding the technique stuff you're talking about. Smooth transitions between the notes being so super important, etc. - all the intangible stuff that isn't the chopsy-chops stuff but is the stuff that totally makes the music affect the listener in ways they don't understand.
Once I learn navigate my shapes by ear and sight to where I can freely Express the motion my soul feels , I will be musically free. This is a work in progress. I can write all day original atmo songs or tracks and I have been trying to practice by doing the track then live noodling around til I find it and this lesson helps alot. I wish to one day be like gilmour. More of bends than speed. To Express those lush minor chords. Omg. Great video man.
Great lesson! It's one of those common sense approaches that should have been intuitive but wasn't. Always a great reminder and insight into thinking. Thanks guys!
I love it. Even pros like Brett are always learning…Tim too (both especially when Guthrie is there).
Tim, the first thing I notice about your playing is;'your damn good.
It’s like switching chords in a strum right into the next notes......
Tim’s like the guitar teacher I need .......excellent lesson
That's so right, with that flow it makes me giggly. A nice happy buzz on the inside....I sure love those ahhh haaa moments, thanks.
one of the clearest explanations of this i've ever seen...and these guys are so laid back....love it...
"All I was playing was F#m, D, and E triads all over the neck" ( 1:45 to 2:25 ) "so once you learn those, it gives you a much bigger kaleidoscope of places you can land and melodic fragments you can pull from" ... For me this is one of my biggest weaknesses as a 'self-taught' player and what I want to work on to expand my vocabulary and ability to compose solos or fill rhythm. Cheers for the great videos and sharing knowledge!
These guys have forgotten more than I’ll ever know! Great video Brett & Tim!
Tim I think I learned more on this video cause of the commentary. I think you really are doing this video thing better than anyone You speak clearly and explain clearly I hope to have a video Chanel of my own one day hope you would be a guest and play for me I also wish to take your course to make me a better player. I’m in Ny and have been trying hard soon to retire and play more
Tim’s one of the best if not the best at what he does which is seemingly everything
You know that was most helpful. I realise I have a lot to do now, but you have demonstrated a whole extra chapter in the guitar player story. Very well demonstrated, easy to follow and well presented.
Thank you.
Love this. Feels like I’m sitting in with y’all
Reminds me a lot of one of my fav solos of all time. Which is relatively new. (Compared to my usual 30-50 year old favourites) If you haven’t heard it check out ‘There’s no me without you’ by Glen Campbell. Corgan, Setzer and Nielsen = amazing.
Having a great understanding of rhythm is crucial. Recommend every musician learn to play drums first. Tim has a fantastic understanding of rhythm and the drums.
When I took beginning piano my teacher had me clap drum patterns, I also suggest every guitar player learn basic piano, it helps a lot I think.
This video was wildly helpful and informative. So, Thank You!! Now I have to go do my CAGED exercises for a few moths...years...decades. Worth it if I can eventually play closer to Mr. Pierce's level! The man is such a talent.
Tim Pierce. Wrote a lot of the guitar for Bon Jovi’s runaway and played on that first album.
Seems such a nice dude too.
I’d only heard Aldo Nova played on Runaway, but heard him all due to mention in interview that he didn’t play all the solos, which maybe was Tim m
@@wolverine3344 Tim only played on Runaway and Ritchie Sambora played on the rest of the tracks!
Frank Gallacher thanks for clarification Frank !!
What are you talking about?? It’s B.S
There's tons of great songs written by guys like Tim who rarely get recognized by the fans.
This reminds me a bit of an interview I saw of the great Carol Kaye. Her method of playing revolves around targeting what she calls chordal notes which basically are the notes of the arpeggio similar to what you are saying. But the interesting part is she completely eschews learning scales. Of course she was playing on records during a time when melody was everything.
Love this, I use caged method a lot and yes often can have a Mark Knoffler kinda sound. Love it
Tim, you're the best and so melodically musical wizard! Thanks!
Two fantastic guitarists helping me climb out of my Pentatonic Prison. Bravo!!
Another great video Tim, connecting the dots. Brett always asks the good questions too.
Wish I would've caught you two at NAMM, next year!
Tim, I learn so much from you and I respect the work you’ve done. Keep it up. THANK YOU!
So incredible. Just a great perspective on lead playing. Thank you guys!
What a great pairing of souls and talent.
This one short lesson has opened my eyes to a whole new way of thinking about my soloing, can't wait to put it into practice and see if it make's a difference!! Thanks a lot!!
I grew up in the 90s and back then if you were lucky to get a mentor to show you stuff and have patience/method, you progressed> Alternately, if you had a great ear, you could steal licks/stuff form other people in bands. But we were nowhere NEAR the possibilities players get these days by having access to hundreds of explanation vids on youtube. Game changer, man...
How can he b so fluid n smooth,, bcause hes , Tim Frikin Pierce, . plus tons of practice n study,, thats all.
Thanks Tim and stache!
Mr Tim
Your lessons are the best ever.
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You two fellas are such great guys.
This is the nicest Strat style i ever saw or heard, fabulous playing
Great video Tim & Brett, thanks for sharing. Got your Caged course Brett, it's really excellent, thanks
Wow excellent lesson showing the whole thought process and practical approach utilizing the caged system/scales. Please keep using this extremely important approach which many overlook. Definitely sets you apart from everyone else. Awesome instruction!! 😎🎸🎶👏👏👏👍
Great playing! The CAGED system does help beginners and intermediate players get the "lay of the land" so to speak and especially the idea of landing on target tones, but I hesitate to encourage guitarists to think of the fret board as a "visual" schemata rather than as an "auditory" comprehension of intervals. Ultimately, I think you develop the capacity to play what you hear in your mind. To me the key, beyond knowing the fret board cold, is thinking about improvising over chord changes as anticipating where you want to go (target tones) and developing the technique to make manifest what you hear in your mind. Not necessarily scatting or singing each note of an improvised solo so much as letting your subconscious connect the dots as you listen intently in the flow to the "piano roll" in your mind.
I heard that Ed King dreamed the solo to " Sweet Home Alabama "in a similar way and, I myself have discovered this phenomena while recording and creating .,
I love you both, you're freaking awesome! All the best from Finland.
Awesome video! Thanks for getting practical. Great questions and explanations with examples
God I wish I knew all the chords and progressions like Tim. Amazing
This lesson made me cry with happiness lol 😂 great job again 🏴
This is a great format, Tim. A conversation/ demonstration. So insightful!
Great video. Thanks so much for sharing all of this incredible knowledge with the world.
A great lesson the example you played reminded me of Johnny Marr's style of playing
Man I love that Anderson guitar, my fave Tim uses
Being able to 'see' the chord shapes while improvising has been and is still, one of the greatest challenges of my musical life ...
My brain just loves sticking to one chord !
A boss I had in the navy once told me: “Sweat the small stuff.”
Felix Ayala ....Felix I was always told “don’t sweat the petty things...just pet the sweaty things”
Wow, this is amazing. A lot of what I'm thinking and trying to do verbalized. Great, great insights. Truly inspiring. Thank you fellas.
Toninho (Brasil)This video opened wonderful doors for me ... thanks Tim, I love you ... is there a video that precedes this subject? or any other that complements this subject?Esse video, me abriu portas maravailhosas ...obrigado Tim, eu te amo...tem algum video que antecede esse assunto ? ou algum outro que complemente esse assunto?
thanks for your lessons Tim !
Appreciate your Q and A interview style... great questions and answers, thank you!!!
This was awesome 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 outstanding. I feel like I just unlock something great. Thank you for doing this