Rob Reacts to... Where Did The Australian Accent Come From?
Vložit
- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- So a nice video explaining where the Australian accent came from.
Original Video: • Where Did The Australi...
If you would like to support me then 'Buy me a beer' and get extra content not on CZcams: www.buymeacoff...
To buy Rob Reacts Merch and get access to the extra content: od-art.co.uk/wp...
Discord: / discord
Tech I'm using:
Camera - Logitech StreamCam: amzn.to/2NlFrAN
Microphone - Blue Microphones Logitech Yeti: amzn.to/3liyuwQ
DISCLAIMER?
Copyright disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright act 1976, allowance is made for the fair use or purpose such as criticism, comments, news reporting, teaching scholarships and research. Fair use is permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favour of Fair use.
#australia #australianaccent #uk
“Sweet as bro” is more Kiwi than Aussie
Like fush un chups 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL - it was a piss take. Notice how the map changed to have NZ in the picture.
And yeah nah
I think there is far more diversity in the NZ excent than our accent. No matter where I have been in Oz I can understand what is beinf
Said, except for Lakemba of course, but the intonations between say, Auckland and Invercargill are huge
Re your question re the aboriginal accents.....urban aboriginals do have similar accents to other Australians...Many aboriginals who live in the bush and in remote areas speak their own language and English is their second language
Alot of aboriginals can barely speak English aswell
There were over 250 different aboriginal languages at British settlement. The Australian land mass is approx the size of that of the USA...much bigger than Europe...just think of how many different languages there are in Europe!
I am Aboriginal my accent is proper Aussie though. I grew up in the country and not the city. The town i lived in was mostly a white school and that though so thats how i think i didnt keep an Aboriginal accent. Aboriginal people in the bush and remote areas have different accents though as English is often the 2nd language. A lot of City Aboriginals have aussie accents though. It can honestly vary a lot.
Aye cuz 👋🏾
Australians are notorious for adopting accents. We constantly absorb the language around us. This can happen in a very short period of time, even days or weeks. We will pick up on someone"s phrases or intonations and incorporate them into our conversations. The reasons behind this may be many. It could be adapting our speech to what they are used to so as to ease conversation, it could be an attempt to fit in socially, or WE ARE JUST TAKING THE PISS. There is nothing more infuriating to an aussie than to see an expat lose most of their accent. At that point they have sold out and become a yank or a pom.
Yeah I’m a born and raised white Queenslander currently living with a 2nd generation Vietnamese Australian from western Sydney and working with a couple of kiwis, as well as some Italians (on a spectrum from 3rd/4th generation right to only moved to Australia in the last few years) and in the last couple of years that this has been the case I’ve noticed my speech patterns mimic theirs a lot more than they used to. (To the point I occasionally worry it does sound like mockery, but it’s genuinely unconscious 99% of the time)
However, removed from their influence, like if I’m away on holiday somewhere, my accent reverts to a pretty classic broad Aussie accent. I grew up going to private schools in a fairly well off upper middle class family so I’ve tended to be quite well spoken my whole life, but I’ve somewhat rejected that class and become a bit more working class as I’ve become independent so I think I broadened my accent (half consciously, half unconsciously) over time as ive worked in various working class jobs and played in rough footy clubs. I do find myself occasionally mixing with people more like those I went to school with and noticing I’m a lot more ocker and sweary than they are. Sometimes that makes me go “oh shit, I am pretty sweary” but then I also go “nah I was always more relaxed and less formal and that why I didn’t really want to be one of them anyway”
Actually this is common with all groups of people. It is how accents and languages develop over time. Language is our means of communication and people adapt pretty quickly to changes in accent and language in order to ensure they can communicate with others. I remember doing it in New Zealand when I had only been there for about a day, squashing those long Australian vowels so they could understand me.
… and yet the Australian accent is one of the hardest for actors to master.
Apparently we talk in the front of our mouths and use our tongues to shape sound which makes us extremely adaptable at mimicking other accents and absorbing them. I for eg. Have about 3 accents based on who I'm talking to without even noticing I'm doing it.
@@BD-yl5mh A similar thing happened to me. I grew up on country Australia with a broad 'Steve Irwin' type accent (I lived only an hour or so from him, anyway). As a teenager I moved to Brisbane city, lived there for years. At about 40 years old (I think!) I went back for a school reunion. The accent difference was STARTLING! I had no idea that my accent had changed so dramatically. Suddenly I sounded like I had a plum in my mouth, lol! I had gravitated from broad country Australian accent to a semi-posh Australian accent in those couple decades. Who would have thought?? My family, who still live in the same area have a very different accent to me. Possibly I slide backwards a little when I speak with them, but not much...
That little Island down there. Tasmania. Is actually roughly the size of Ireland haha
I used to live on that little island. Some of the best scenery in the world.
@@annekebeekhuizen2354 agreed
@@annekebeekhuizen2354 I still do.
Isle of Wight: 380km²
Tasmania: 68,401km²
Tasmania is almost the exact same size as Sri Lanka and for the brits, just smaller than Scotland and about 3x the size of Wales.
@@user-bf8ud9vt5b me too
Cate Blanchett's accent is largely cultivated as she spends a lot of time between the US and England. It sounds far more English than a Aussie standard and quite different since her college days. Hugh's is very Sydney upper middle class sounding and Steve's is typical remote Queensland. Queensland's usually end each sentence with 'Hey'.
A lot of Australian actors out there that mimic the 'needed' accent while most of the people trying to mimic the aussie accent goes cockney ( from somewhere in England )
The Sunshine Coast is not remote Queensland. He did sound like a real bushie though.
Canadians also like to put "hey" on the end of any statement.
Beerwah tho so its not like he's a city kid
@@melissabarrett9750 nah they have eh
Yeah *nah* = I get what you’re saying but disagree.
*Yeah* nah = I agree with what you’re saying, no need to repeat it.
*Nah* yeah = Ok, maybe I do agree with you.
Nah *yeah* = yeah totally.
Yeah nah yeah = fucken oath
Fuck knows what your saying 🤣
They were the only words our convict ancestors were allowed to use. So they had to come up with a system and it has trickled down through the centuries most family's could hold a conversation with those 2 words
Yeah nah (polite) = _Yes_ I hear what you are saying but _no_ you are wrong with that assumption.
Yeah nah (straight to the point) = _Yeah mate_ I know what you're saying, but _Nah mate_ you're wrong.. you fucking mong.
Yeah nah mate ( short version of what a Yank would say - eg. in this case Adam Savage) = I reject your reality and substitue my own.
I'm a 63 y.o Aussie, never been out of Australia, lived in most parts of Australia, grew up in middle to lower class suburbs of Sydney (out near Blacktown), lived and worked in cities and spent the last 30 years in the country and I have NEVER heard anyone say 'Yeah Nah' except a few people being interviewed on the TV News! It's really not an Aussie thing. And most indigenous Aussies have their own Aussie/Aboriginal accent.
Alright, I feel it needs to be said. The strength of the Aussie accent is dependent on who you’re talking to. When I’m online and meet another Aussie, the accent gets progressively stronger and stronger. But it’s milder when I’m talking to anyone else.
Haha so true, I use formal language in the workplace or out in public but use proper Aussie with close family and friends
I was living in Canada with English roommates and they would joke that I got a lot more Aussie when I was talking to my family 😂
We do have a "class system" but accent isn't really part of it. It's also socially unacceptable to talk about it, otherwise the tall poppy syndrom will show itself very quickly
There were (and are ) hundreds of Aboriginal Language groups . Some groups rarely use English these days while others speak entirely in English , others still use a mixture .
If the British have a class system at level 10, I would rate Australias at about 3.
Wominjeka, Rob. (hello in Woiwurrung) Deadly topic! The most extreme difference in accents is between the privately educated city-siders (more English) and country born and bred bushies (strine). Our class system is less defined but don't kid yourself, it is alive and well, along with the prejudice and aspirations.
Maybe the class system was something us Brits took with us. It does say how a variety of people went to settle on aus.
Yes I'd agree with that
There are thousands of different dialects among the original inhabitants
Was, they down to hundreds now. For some reason, right?
There’s a few dozen left and only like 4 aboriginal languages are spoken by a decently sized population
There were around 250 Aboriginal languages spoken and dialects within those languages at the onset of European settlers. Now only about 120 first languages are left. There is a map of Indigenous Australians that show groups and clans that pretty much covered the whole of Australia even the remotest parts of Australia.
7:24 "no real accent"
The delusion is real mate 😂😂
haha I do have a neutral accent in terms of the UK though
My grandfather was a drover in the years before WW2, similar to Hugh Jackman's role in the movie Australia. He spoke a lot of words and slang that had Aboriginal influence to them. Even 40 years later. But also.. I think that all of Australia has some Aboriginal influence. In the city it's less noticeable and you'll find less influence, and more influence from private school education, universities etc. Probably stemming back to the English talked about in this video. There is a bit of a poshness there.
As you go more rural, there's a larger Aboriginal influence. It seems like a universal thing in most countries, the cities tend to speak more neat, tidy and posh. The further you are away from the cities, it starts to get rough around the edges. While at the same time being less uptight and more layed back. There is a bit of a class element to it as well. In terms of upper class vs lower class. I'm seeing many contradicting opinions of Australia accents.. it's a bit of an enigma.. haha.
In terms of Aboriginal accent, it's hard to describe with words. But words or places like Kookaburra, Billabong, Dandenong, Wooloongabba, Humpybong, and Wogga Wogga are based from Aboriginal meanings or words. Some of them have been changed or altered, but you can still see some of the patterns in the sounds of them. There are so many different Aboriginal accents or dialects, it's really hard to generalise.
yu got twenny sent for a pak of rotmans an a plagon of port?
It is spelt, 'Wagga Wagga'.
I think you will find that we do over-exaggerate our Aussie accent for fun when talking to people from overseas, In American movies if they have an Australian they will make him or her so Aussie that it is embarrassing to us here in Aus. If you travel to Different towns and states in Australia you will see a difference. I was going to comment on Tasmanians but I thought Yeah Nah.....
When I was working overseas I found I had to dampen my accent a bit so the non English native speakers could understand me 😆
Nowt wrong wit Tasmanians
@@stevewiles7132 My mum and sister are Tasmanians.
Australia has a high immigration especially after WW2 when many southern Europeans settled here to start a new life.. Something not mentioned was the ethnic background of the people that determines their accent. Many of my friends have different accents based on the nationality of their parents. For example the "wog" accent is that of someone of Italian/Greek heritage (including myself). Search Effie for a caricature of it.
Effie!!!! my mum used to get called that!!
Loved Acropolis Now...
Oh my gaaaawd I love Effie so much, mate 😂
Add to that list ...... Guido Hatzis!
The Australian accent emerged quickly among the children of the first free and convict settlers. It was not influenced by indigenous peoples. The question about how indigenous people speak and their accents is pretty complicated. There are many examples of indigenous Australians whose accents are at the cultivated end of the Australian accent continuum. Many indigenous people speak English with broad Australian accents often with a distinctly indigenous intonation that locals can distinguish. Many indigenous people speak a non-standard English dialect influenced by an indigenous language substrate. There are also indigenous people for whom English is a second language; their accents vary depending on which indigenous language is their first language.
Great summary. Also, as far as I understand it, S.A only had the higher classes establishing the colony there, very few convicts, other than servants. Where as N.S.W, VIC etc had a majority of convicts in early settlements after they had done their time and were given parcels of land to begin farming etc.
An Indigenous Australian map breaks the continent into over 800 separate Indigenous countries, each country was the territory of a particular tribe and had its own Indigenous language. The majority of Indigenous Australians still speak their traditional language and use English as a second language. They often have a very distinct Indigenous Accent.
the majority of indigenous people speak English as their first language. not sure where you got that one from lol
I am 40+ and have known many Aboriginal People, none of yet have spoken anything other then Australian English. Not saying those living more toward the North and remote areas don't maintain their tribal language. With over 800+ tribes to say they have a single language that would be English, but have 800+ dialects of Indigenous Australian
"use English as a second language" I did state housing maintenance all over the northwest of WA for 15 years and never came across that, I think you've been watching to much TV.
There are literally a couple of hundred aboriginal languages with 100s and hundreds of more dialects. Fun fact, none of the known languages has an equivalent word for ‘disability’. Diseases like bronchitis, measles, scarlet fever, chicken pox and even the common cold wiped out large swathes of Aboriginal people. Also VD, TB & smallpox (dangerous for both races) - some estimates of the impact on the Aboriginal population are in the vicinity of 60% wiped out.
We don’t have a class system, but we do have extreme disparity in wealth and opportunity.
Deffinitly different if you're an Aussie. You can pick it. More so in the cities. The country (bush) is mostly the same.
Melbourne Sydney Adelaide and Brisbane all sound different.
We do have working class, middle class, upper class etc, however, we aren't all that into distinguishing between them and are happy to mix socially etc
Ain't that the truth
Jack is as good as his master as they used to say
I would say the upper classes get on with the lower classes, but the middle classes are obsessed with distinguishing themselves from the lower classes.
Fun fact: “Australia” was never a British colony. The commonwealth of Australia was federated in 1901 from the former British colonies of: Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Tasmania and Western Australia.
There was no legal entity called “Australia” until that point.
There are variations on the accent depending on where you live but they're very suttle. Usually more to do with the words used than how they're said.
The whole thing that we end sentences with questions marks is false, and it bugs me 😃 there are some that do, but I would say it’s a generalisation. The show Kath and Kim takes the piss out of the Ocker Aussie accent. I would say our accents are more to do with socio- eco and education .
I do agree when I listen to most of the stuff I don't hear the question at the end (unless it is an actual question). I think it is just a bit of banter now. Even the Aussie comedian Adam Hills did a skit on it
You can't be serious, are you?
;)
It's more of a northern Queensland thing. Aye?
It is a real thing and it has a name like post inflection or something like that and is more obvious in some accents then others based on where your from. But it's a trap because it's more subtle but people mimicking use over to it and it's painful to hear and gives away most fakers no matter how hard they try
I see a lot of that of people being interviewed on TV and I can point to exactly the group who started that annoying habit: Footy players, all stripes. It's also strong in the military.
I’m in Western Australia and we have so many elders ( aborigines) in different areas in the largest state in Australia 🇦🇺 Northern ,Southern , central ,Eastern . But it also applies to all states in Australia 🇦🇺 and territories.
Merely 30-40 years ago, we sounded more English than we do now. So it is true that our accent is still changing and developing.
Have a listen to the ABC news bulletins from the 1950s-60s.
The result of broader gentrification.
I laughed when you said your accent was… no accent. That’s how I see myself in Australia 🤪
Haha well in UK terms I don't think I do have an accent
You have an Australian accent.
@@brassholio I'm not sure if that's true 🤣
@@RobReacts1 Yes of course you do, everyone has. The bloke reading this narration has a weird very English (London?) impediment - "uvva" instead of "other", "fing" instead of "thing" etc.
@@RobReacts1 You sound English, but not posh.
My husband was a blue collar worker, he was a maintenance fitter but then he went to night school and he ended up in charge of the work shop, hiring and firing , project manager. Then you have the white collar worker , they work in an office
have a listen to old footage from say the 40's and i think we sound more English than now
if you're from SA that would be down to the 10 pound Assisted passages in the 60's where most people got off the boat at Elizibeth city, and subsiquently spread from there it gave SA a very 60's english way of speaking and pronunciation.
And just as a note:
Aboriginals were here WAY WAY WAY before the Poms decided to declare this place Terra Nullus.
And I know this is aimed at the original video, but hey, you learnt summat new as well.
Re viruses,, YES some tribes were wiped out.
It's exactly the same as the Europeans settling over in the Americas
Get over it.
Rob, Yes, when the English came here the Aboriginal people around Sydney came down with Measles and Small Pox and many of them around Sydney died and it happened as the white man spread through out Australia. We were mostly living on the coast and did not get over the Great Dividing Range until 1813…..and then we spread like wild fire, taking the infections with us. There were over one hundred different Aboriginal languages in Australia before the white man came and with some Aboriginals today, English is their second language.
The slight differences in the accent where I lived in the western suburbs of Sydney was a real mix. It wasn't different from one area to another, the differences were all around in equal measure, like what you mentioned with the softer and harsher sounds. You could walk down a road and hear the slight difference from one person to another. And if I travelled an hour east to the City, the accent didn't change at all. It was the same subtle differences.
being an Aussie living in England, unless a person knows an Actual Australian, i ususally get asked if i'm from other parts of the world first, or they here a twang but can't place it. so the first part of the vid i already break lol . I've actually found that People from Ipswich UK sound very much like Queenslanders ( it gets even more confusing when they just say ipswich cos there's an Ipswich in Queensland too). Yeah we do have a working class system. the interaction between Aboriginals and Early settlers apart from warfare was fairly minimal, and there are a load of different Aboriginal Language like 250+ different ones, it wasn't till later years with the expansion throughout Aus and into other states that contact with indiginous became more common. Also the accent does change depending on where you're from, Qlders sound different to Victorians, who sound different to Crow Eaters (south Aussies) we use the term Ocker for the more rough and simple they sound so Qlders and NT sound real ocker, where as Victorians sound a bit more refined, then you get To Adelaide where we've the most milder of the accents ( this is due to the 10 pound boats in the 60's though)
"this is due to the 10 pound boats in the 60's though" This reference is to the vast immigration of British to Australia in the late 50s to early seventies for the price of ten pounds with large amounts of these settling initially in South Australia, many in a region called Elizabeth (no guesses where that came from) which had vast areas of what would be termed Council dwellings, they were not flats they were houses or Duplexes with a proper back and front yard and fences between properties.
When I was in my early teens I had this bizarre period of a couple years where despite being a born and bred Australian living among Australians in the same city I was born in, people seemed to hear something in my speech that made me sound a little foreign. People that met me would ask if I was Kiwi, British, Scottish, Irish, South African, and I never quite worked out why. I never consciously noticed a change in my speech but eventually it stopped happening. (Later in life I semi-consciously chose to broaden my accent, but I hadn’t yet made this choice when the “you sound foreign” thing stopped happening)
There were at least 300 aboriginal languages across the country - as well as quite a lot of dialects.
I saw Adam Greentree on a podcast and he said something similar to this. I have no personal real life experience, so I'm not sure. He has a lot of experience with rural Australia, I know this is likely true. I'm just not sure to what extent of it in terms of what the real number is.
I can’t remember the exact number either, but I used to work in a linguistics library which housed a lot of data/examples of indigenous languages.
In Australia there are more 250 indigenous languages including around 800 dialects.
Canberra is an upper class city and people’s accents are somewhat more refined. When I lived in a small country we called our meal at night ‘tea’. Came to Canberra and they call it ‘dinner’. I have never heard a Canberran call it ‘tea’.
The accents in Australia all vary depending on where you live.
Not really…the basic accent has varieties based on background, there are differences in words or maybe pronunciations…eg castle in Melbourne is pronounced cass’l and elsewhere carss’l. There are different words used in different places, like a potato cake in Melbourne is a potato scallop in Sydney, because it’s a scalloped potato dipped in batter, and fried.
Rubbish. You're confusing accents with slang.
Yeah Nah
Bro I’m from Melbourne and not me or my mates say “cass’l”
There are only very minor regional variations. Certainly nothing like the UK or the US
Some suttle differences do occur due to region. For example I am one of 4 brothers, we all grew up in Sydney in a poor to middle class family. Two stayed in Sydney , one went to Queensland and I moved to Victoria. My Brother in Queensland and I share a very similar accent, so much so that my father would often mix us up when talking on the phone. However I have noticed suttle differences in my Queensland brother's accent. Over time he speaks alot slower than i do and this is a trait often attributed to those living in Queensland. Some think it relates to a layed back lifestyle that you dont get in the southern states.
Some aboriginal communities were decimated by the diseases that Europeans brought with them. We do have classes, but they're not as pronounced as British ones, we don't have a class "system" per-se. Also, there are many many aboriginal languages / dialects, these can (but don't always) affect their accents when speaking English.
I notice people from India do have a class system like the Poms, which I assume they got it from there. So If I have ever come across a person from India, and I am their manager, they have this habit, of saying "yes boss" all the time, when I would rather they just call me by my actual name. No one born here does that, so class systems tended to die out, after a few generations. Most Aussies, do not look down or up to someone else, in that sense but I can tell from people overseas, if they come from a country that does have distinct class systems.
I've seen videos from this bloke before, and l wasn't impressed. He's a bit superficial.
Apparently, Australian english has the "flattest" vowel sounds of all. This makes it hard for others to impersonate successfully, but we can more easily impersonate other accents. There are 3 languages in Australia; strine, which is mostly slang, swearing and abbreviations. Used mostly by bogans, (pronounced, bow gns). Conversational, which is what is used most of the time, it has less slang and swearing. And formal, as used in government documents, legislation, religious services etc. Accents are separate, and range from broard to normal. Words per minute can be anywhere from very slow to machine gun fast. Mix it all together to get the various Aussie accents.
An Englishman was moving to Ireland and wanted to "fit in". His doctor said that he could remove 10% of his brain and he would then have an Irish accent. After the operation the surgeon was embarrassed. He told the patient that he had read the request wrongly and had removed 90% of his brain, leaving only 10%. The patient replied "No worries mate, she'll be right . . . fair dinkum!" (told to me by a Pommy mate).
a) Aboriginal people from remote areas have their own distinct accents based upon their owm language rhythms, in urbans areas and among the young they still seem to carry a slightly different accent from the Anglo/Aussies.
b) Yes, the First Fleeter's were loaded with viruses and disease that escaped into the Aboriginal population, which had no immunity, they died.
c) There is a class stratification, it is very fluid and based more on money or country/city issues
d0 I don't know where these "workers" come from - the convicts were the workers. The First Fleet was an almost total male package, made up of the Navy with Arthur Philip in charge - he was a country lad from Whitby (definitely not "upper"), the NSW or Rum Corp (the goalers) and the convicts plus the "flogging Parson/ The convict were from all classes and most weretransported for petty crimes, political agitation and debt. Regardless of background the Brutes of the Rum Corp treated them all the same - brutally
e) There were over 260 distinct Aboriginal languages in 1788, and a large number are still spoken today outside of the major urban centres. The settlers picked up words and phrases which have become part of the Aussie lingo.
f) Adelaide matrons were renowned for their version of RP, Brissies bright young things are adopting a West Coast USA twang, Victoria's kids say Fillum for film, and in NSW they have kassels rather than carsels
g) I thought Cate spoke elvish on a good day and Russian on a bad one.
Many convicts came from the east of London bringing their cockney accent with them, which is where a large part of the accent comes from. Smallpox wiped out a vast number 50% plus of the indigeneos population.
the whole ending a sentence with a question comes from you guys, a lot of brits end a sentence with yeah
Oh man we say yeah all the time
A interesting read is The Sydney Language by Jakelin Troy produced with the assistance of the Australian Dictionaries Project and the Australian Insitute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies. Written to revive the interest in the long "extinct" Aboriginal language of the Sydney District. It draws on the work of Lieutenant William Dawes a scientist on the First Fleet. Part of this is based on the phonology or sound system and Dawes othographic table. Interestingly Dawes was from Portsmouth and spoke a dialect of "south-eastern English".
Had to laugh at the ads during this video. Two of them were for Milo. CZcams is spying on you 😂
haha it knows my new addiction!!
When the first fleet arrived, they nearly left again because the pub was shut.
Australia has a sating "Jacks as good as his master" Its not used much now but it means we are all the same, dont you dare think you are better than me because you have more money than I do.
There are very slight differences in accent between the States, but you need to have a good ear to pick them up.
KIWIS sounded like Aussies until the 1950s
The natural tone of the Aboriginal voice is very nasal and from the back of the throat. Like holding your nose and talking.
Australia developed its nasal accent because of the flies. It was better to not open your mouth much when talking. Australians can talk without opening their mouths much at all.
We were all taught to speak like the Queen but its easier not to.
I think that is a great saying. In my way of thinking we are the human race all the same. Just some people are little bit more dicks than others 🤣
No, you cant be nasal AND speak from the back of the throat at the same time. That would be talking from opposite ends of the mouth at the same time.
My upper middle class Aussie Grandparents were just hardworking people who started with nothing. They HATED posers and pretenders.
Got taught the Queen's English and full Table Manners, Etiquette. Wasn't expected to use it, expected to know it for when the time came when I became an Adult though.
@@mdwquiz Nhhff Ngrr Ngrr Nff hff Gnrr urghhh.
I bow to your Doctorate in Linguistics,
Australia has 4 'general' accents that essentially radiate out from the state capitals, there are regional differences e.g. South Australians are a little more English, New South Welshmen more harsh and elongated (listen to them pronounce the name Cam, it it's an elongated Kem) but again it's not universal. The 3 accents are as described in the video. The 4th is similar in concept to what the English call MLE (Multicultural London English). Australia has something similar that we would colloquially call the 'Wog Accent', the letter L is quite distinguishable, or the word hour as 2 syllables. This accent is often parodied on television and youtube.
What a load of shit.
There's a distinctly Queensland/Northern Australian accent that is not heard elsewhere in Australia. Here in Queensland, compared to people in the southern states, we tend to speak through our noses and the front of our mouths and drag just a fraction longer on our vowels. In contrast, people from Victoria and South Australia tend to speak more from their throats with a focus on enunciation. Meanwhile, people from New South Wales sit somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
Keeping mouths closed because of flys was part of it ..& loads of convicts were Irish & Cockneys.
This video mentioned Scottish but I think that has a bigger effect on the kiwi accent
Johno Queensland Most of the irish convicts would have originally spoken irish/gaelic as a first language so that may have an influence aswell.
Nasal twang.
Yes, influenza decimated many Aborigines but lead poisoning was the biggest killer, from the thunder sticks.
Rubbish. How simple your mind is.
@@RobertJW Rubbish. By who's contemporary documents? Aboriginal contemporary documents in the aboriginal state archives?
There's even a timeline of the manufactured injustice rubbish and it starts with the first the Mabo agreement and native land title outcome which magically caused a sudden expansion of the tribal areas maps which once showed certain areas of the continent as tribal areas to suddenly cover every square meter of the continent.
It was pointed out that there simply wasn't enough of them them, only about 300,000 to cover, therefore claim, such a large area.
This was answered with a new lame claim being that there were up to a million aboriginals when Europeans arrived but then , you know, "genocide".
Of course not realising that the driest inhabited continent on the planet could not support a million hunter gatherers and that they'd needed to have had agriculture, irrigation and water catchments just like the settlers buit in order to support that amount of people they looked foolish and went silent on the claim for about 10 years but then suddenly out of nowhere and no previous mention of it aboriginals had been farmers and infrastructure builders.
It's all a load of rubbish.
Australian English developed out of a lingua franca devised by the children of first settlers. They needed a common language so they could communicate with each other. The first settlers came from all parts of Britain, many only spoke Gaelic plus their local colloquialisms. Most convicts transported to Australia came from Scotland, Ireland plus Wales and their first language was Gaelic.
What's interesting about Australia, there is very little difference in accent around the country but Adelaide has a distinctive accent. Have a listen to Australian ex politician Christopher Pyne. He has what's deemed an Adelaide accent. South Australia was settled by free settlers as opposed to convicts, which might be one reason their accent may be different. It's difficult to tell if someone's from Perth or Sydney, yet Western Australia developed independently to NSW and are over 3000klms apart.
You'll get changes in vocabulary across the country, which may be due to local colloquialisms and local indigenous words have been adapted. Melburnians/Victorians have different vocabulary for things compared to New South Wales.
This is not true at all aus is only about 10% Irish and the majority of convicts sbd settelets wrte english. If u want to see a more celtic influenced accent look at new Zealand. Also further proof of us not being Micks is that we wete never a catholic country and if you look at last names u will find that Irish last names aren't that common. Theres a reason why Irish wete treated poorly here and that's because they WERE A MINORITY
People that live in remote county have a harsh accent and country people then a bit less and city people seem to have a posh accent and I’m sure like England it changes as you go around Australia
Watch Eric Banner play Poyda (Peter) to hear a great example of the Australian “wog” accent. This is the accent of Greek, Italian, Croatian, Lebanese and other Mediterranean immigrants. Most common in northern and western suburbs of Melbourne.
There was one time rum replaced money in aus.
I have lived in OZ for 47 years, I always felt the accent here was a cross between cockney & Irish, this guy didnt even mention the Irish, they made up a lot of the original convicts.
I'm aussie and the Irish influence is waaaay overblown. We are majority south east english. Most of the convicts were english most of the settlers were english. We are not a catholic country we dont speak like Irish people we dobt pronounce r like Irish. We are about 10 percent Irish.
Google an Indigenous map !! ( Australian) all the tribes ... you can Hear different accents in the indigenous, even actors sound different
In Australia the accents varie from general accent, for example Chris Hemsworth, broad accent ( Steve Irwin, people from the outback or in the bush), and the cultivated accent, more like British accent ( you'll hear this accent from TV reporters.
My mum was from Bedford UK and all her family originated from rural Ireland.
I was born and raised here in western sydney. My accent is very regarded as very australian when i visit the UK and Ireland - but compared to other aussies here, i get told i have a bit of an english accent - which because of my aussie accent actually sounds a bit like a northern english accent - especially when i drink.
haha. Its interesting when people are from a certain location but live somewhere else and their accent changes in strength depending where they are at the time :D
probably explains why alot of convicts were Irish. Ned Kelly has an irish background. Alexander Pearce was irish (he was a notorious cannibal who was sent here on boat to van diemans land (Tasmania) Australia's worst convicts got sent there at the time. i feel like he's another guy you should check out.
"posh-ish" is very non-posh sounding word.
I have a large Koori population around me, and their accents very quiet a lot. The Kooris to my ear and only in my experience, do have a slightly different twang than the non indigenous. There are also Kooris who talk just like the Euro population, it just depends on family, and schools they associate with.
I said it was a fun fact. And as for the aboriginal side of things, yes some did become sick from diseases. And the aboriginal dialect changes with their land, similar to how we now have states, so an aboriginal in Victoria would have almost a completely different language to one in Queensland for example. We also adapted to their language that's why some of our towns, rivers, mountains have aboriginal names or meanings.
There were over 250 languages and 800 dialects spoken by the indigenous communities before the British settled. I think it depends on wear you live on how much the indigenous dialects affects how people speak. Many of the indigenous languages have died out and been forgotten unfortunately
Impact of European arrivals on the natives was devastating. still is.
Well Rob, the Isle of Wight get a mention 😮 not the nicest mention 😂 I'm from cosham, Portsmouth and I've lived on the island for 40 yrs and I'm still a foreigner or overner! all my relatives still live around Portsmouth and I get the same old jokes' have you got electricity yet?and the classic if on the ferry' we are approaching the island now so turn you watches back 50yrs'I find it funny and refer to the island as Alcatraz and that my wife was born and inbred on the island😂great video again it's different from others just churning out the same old stuff. Cheers mate 👍✌️🍻
Oh man... Pompey... Sorry to hear that! 🤣
I joke. I'm a saints fan and from Winchester (now Eastleigh).
Yea I think isle of white gets the same sort of comments Tasmania gets in Aus!
@@RobReacts1 boooo red in the kit represents embarrassment, the Islanders don't have a team as it's just too fast😂marbles bowls and darts is about the limit👍✌️🍻
@@martindunstan8043 you plenty of teams. Cowes, east cowes, Newport etc... Just they arnt any good! 🤣
There's generally 3 main Aussie accents; Cultivated, General, Broad. This is a great video to distinguish the 3 using some Celebs to do so: czcams.com/video/ZnioDeQNlxQ/video.html
I think there's actually two Australian accents: "the normal Aussie person's accent"; and "the international Aussie actor's accent", the latter of which subdivides into "the exaggurated outback person's accent" and "the exaggurated upper class person's accent", depending on what image the actor is trying to portray.
@@maddyg3208 nah for sure 3, the country definitely has a more distinct accent than city folk and they're not actors. And then there's the posh Aussies who are different to the other two as well
@@maddyg3208 if you think Steve Irwin was putting on an accent, you must be crazy 😂
Edit: also you must not be Australian because you would recognise those were fighting words 😜
I’m guessing, and I stress guessing, that the Aboriginal portion of the accent was due to the names adopted for most of our towns and suburbs (mostly indigenous names) . Those very unique sounds of names like of location I recon had a major impact in n the Aussie Twang . Like I’m from a place called DANDENONG, AKA dandy. Those sorts of names are (as I think once read) about 70% of location names. Could be wrong but maybe 🤔 not?
Yeah its not like any of us white fellas ever really went to the effort of properly learning aboriginal languages so I think many would suggest that the accent isn’t influenced by aboriginal languages at all, but I think you might be right.
It’s also kind of weird how you get very used to your local place names but if you look at aboriginal names for places in other states that obviously have a different cultural history you’ll sometimes be a little unsure how to pronounce/emphasise them. So on some very minor level it’s as if we’re slightly subconsciously integrating a minor familiarity with our local aboriginal languages
There were around 250 Aboriginal languages and many tribes :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_Aboriginal_group_names
A distinct difference between people who live in the remote parts of the inland as in indigenous and long time white Australia is the speaking pace. That`s cheese & chalk.
There are over 300 different Aboriginal nations identified as occupying different parts of Australia. Many of them having their own unique dialect and language. PS. One glaring omission in the video you played, is the significant influence of Irish settlers in Australia. There was also, of course, the Great Gold Rush of the mid 1800's which had a big impact on Australia and it's social and economic development.
Australia had settlers not just from England, but Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and the Isle of Man as well, that too would have influenced the accent.
The Irish, Scottish, and Welsh brought their languages with them as well. Irish was the second most commonly spoken language in the Australian colony at the time. Despite that those languages were rarely passed on beyond the second generation due to the suspicion it raised when speaking another language other than English especially when some of the Irish were sent to Australia for rebelling against British rule in Ireland. Their influence from their own languages and accents would have also had an influence
There were about 400 different aboriginal nations before colonisation each with different dialects according to region. Yes some are still spoken
We love abbreviations and shorten words all the time but best of all Aussies are most hospitable to everyone
We don’t have a class system but we are “categorised” by our wealth/non wealth, we call it our socioeconomic situation. In Melbourne you are classed by what school you went to, University education, what car you drive and what suburbs we live in.
My Great Grandmother was sent to Tasmania as a convict & her accent was totally different to my Father's who came from Louth.....
Dont confuse accent with dialect. Accent is pronunciation based, dialect is vocabulary based.
The Australian accent did NOT take 50 years to develop. That is just flat out wrong. It just took 50 years for a recognised European linguist to document it in a book. Other written accounts from as early the 1790s describe the Australian accent used by the first generation of Australian children with European heritage. It happened INSTANTLY.
Agree, Michael. I have a DVD called; The Sounds of Aus - The Story of the Aussie accent and it's presented by John Clarke (so you can imagine how good it is). Originally produced by the ABC & bought from the ABC shop 2007. It's excellent.
@@Sydneysider1310 everyone other than Australian's over 40 who the f is John Clarke
@@hopehigh3224 You don't know? Only died a few years ago after 30+ years as Australia's greatest satirist. "Clarke & Dawe" on the ABC - just to name one of his iconic gigs - you must be under 30. Btw... it's on DVD bc it was an ABC doco in 2007, hence they released it on DVD.
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/video/2017/apr/10/comedian-john-clarke-dies-at-68-video-obituary
I think the cockneys had a significant impact on a lot of our idioms. The Aboriginal peoples had nations across the country and most of them had their own languagesnor dialects. Many of the indigenous languages are lost already but a lot of work is being done to save them.
Did the First Fleet bring disease? Yes, absolutely. Smallpox broke out only a year after their arrival in Sydney. Most of the colonists had already been exposed to the disease and had immunity (to various degrees) but the aboriginal people did not. It had quite a devastating effect. 50 to 70% of the local aboriginal population was wiped out by disease within two years of the First Fleet's arrival.
seems very much like when the europeans landed in the americas!
Aboriginal people have mostly integrated into western society, so yeah, they have Australian accents. But the aren't stopped from going out into their own communities and living as their ancestors did, and their accent is alot different, mainly cause they will speak English around you. But when they speak their own language, it is absolutely beautiful.
We do seem to pick up other people's accents. My Brother who lives in England apparently has a British Accent which none of us have ever heard. Subconsciously He'll switch back when thinking or talking about Australia. A friend of mine married an American Lady and lived there for a while. Unfortunately He couldn't make ends meet, so They moved back. A group of us were standing around talking to them. She asked Him "What happened to Your Accent?" Everyone just looked at Her mystified. My Father was definitely a Working Class Man, His Family was so poor He struggled to get enough to eat as a child. My Sister-in-law is a West End Girl. Her Dad was an Executive at The Bank Of England until He Retired. We love Her dearly but sometimes She's a bit Clueless. My Mum's Cousin was a Lord. The first time seeing Him I felt Intimidated even though He was an Old Man with Medals and a Walking Stick. Well it was at a Very Formal Family Funeral and they kept calling Him "His Lordship!". I was just a Teenager at the time. A couple of years later Our Local Show (Fair) had an anniversary. My Mum and I went to see what they had on display. I was hoping to find something about My Grandpa who was a Wood Chopping Legend in His Day. He was even had a Royal Commission once, He didn't go, Marrying Grandma instead. We didn't find anything, I saw this Old Man standing there and told Him about My Looking for something about Grandpa. I said "He was a Johnston!" (that's Scottish, even though there's a lot of English on that side). He said "So am I!" guess who He turned out to be, that's right Mum's Cousin His Lordship. We all hugged and walked off together, until He walked off hand in hand with His Great Grandson. It turned out He was just your average Kind, Friendly Gentleman Who didn'tusually use His Title. I saw His home once, it was just an average House no different from any on that street. I went to High School with His Sister's Grandson. His Grandpa turned out to be distantly related to The British Royal Family. He wound up with a Huge Crush on Me, even telling His Grandma All About It. Needless to say He was Shocked to find out We were related. I was grateful to be living in the turn of This Century. I like Him as a Friend but that's all. I shudder to imagine a time when His Lordship could have arranged A Match. It would be illegal anyway, under Australian Law you can Marry a 1st or 3rd Cousin. My School Mate was My 2nd Cousin once removed. As you summised there are a lot of different Aboriginal languages. Although they mainly speak English as well. I've got Aboriginal Friends including an Ex-Boyfriend they speak with the same Accent as I do.
Aboriginals definitely had a influence on our accent and so much of our language has oboriginal tones at the end of it like Ye mate , see ya and other terms
Yeah I think we have altered the accent in a way for sure.
@@YaMateNate 💕🌈😊 it's really awesome aye I love this 💞
Aboriginals do have their own accents depending on their geographic location and language group. City people speak with a different (posh) accent than their country counterparts and Aboriginals who grew up in towns and cities speaking English as their first language sound like everyone else in their local suburbs or towns. The convicts were from all over England and a huge number of them were Irish, so there was a massive melting pot of accents that melded together to form our unique accent.
The broad Aussie accent or “strine” come from the outback and far North Queensland. Basically they started to speak with their teeth closed and would clip words down to try to keep out the flies hence the strained sound rather than the rounded vowel sound you’ll find in south Australia or Western Australia.
Hobart in Tasmania with a population of about 250,000 is the second oldest capital city in Australia . Settled in 1804 .. It's way older than Melbourne , Adelaide , Brisbane , Perth , Darwin and Canberra ..Only Sydney is older ...In fact so is Launceston our second biggest city settled in 1806 . It was named Patersonia briefly in honour of the first garrison commander but renamed very soon after the town in Cornwall England . The river Launceston sits by is called the Tamar as it's English namesake does also . Launceston is about 110,000 people today .,Not only that but in Hobart and Launceston are still home to many historic British colony buildings to this day . The oldest continuously in use bridge is also in Tasmania at Richmond . It has had continuous traffic on it since 1823..Tasmania has a huge amount of place names and river names from England , Ireland and Scotland ..Another historic fact .. At Bothwell is a place called Ratho Farm . It is home to the oldest golf course in the world outside of the British Isles . Golf was first played there in 1822 . It's still in existence to this day.
South Australians sometimes pronounce a few words that to myself(Victorian) sound reminiscent of UK English.
Outback have stronger accents than coastal inhabitants and there's a variation from south to north, I've found we use different words for the same items, bathers (clothes) in South Australia are called togs in Queensland. Sparrows are spoggies in SA and Spriggees in Victoria. Lots of variation so you won't get bored. 👍🦘
I like my Islander friends taking the piss out of the Aussie accent. Very funny.
If you want to hear how Cate Blanchett speaks watch the behind the scenes from Thor Ragnorok she sounds like a real Okker Aussie, she changes her accent depending on the roles she plays as many Aussie actors have to, cool series on AUS check out The Comedy Company series from the 90’s I think, I think you’ll enjoy it. And it’s pronounced G’day emphasis on the G. All the best from Oz.
Captain Sparrow in Pirates of Caribbean sometimes sounds an Aussie one or a Cockney accent. It’s hard to pick it at times.
I'm Australian since 'the 1850's Victorian Gold Rush & before. What I still don't understand after a long life, is why we 26 million Australians all over our entire continent (39 times size of England) have the same basic accent. If there are variations, they are usually migrants or people 'putting on the dog' ie. trying to appear a class above (posh). [ps. some SE English accents are very close (except for slang etc). Kent is a prime example. - My Aussie wife taught there for a year post war & noted this]
There are some regional differences but they are small and few. Even most Australians would need to listen to a large amount of talking and maybe tell from a couple of words where they are from, but even then it is hard to be sure.
everyone has an Accent doesn't matter where your from. as its a matter of perspective. people will think you have an accent and vice versa. so everyone has one
The settlers in Australia brought a lot of disease and that killed, and some sources say up to 70% of the Aboriginal population at the time were killed by smallpox alone
Not really a difference in accent throughout Australia, but different terms for items. Togs / bathers / swimmers / bathing suit.
Potato scallop / potato cake.
You forgot speedos, boardies and budgie smugglers...
Nah, ask an Aussie to say "dance" or "chance" and you'll instantly know if they're from SA.
Before english settlement there was 180 indigenous nations with there own area, but each nation had sometimes several different comunities each with there own languages and often could not understand there neighboring comunity though many were multilingual and could depending on relations between the community's.. so there is still several hundred indigenous languages.. where i currently live is Wiradjuri land and they speak Wiradjuri and mostly english, where i am from was koori land and they speak english but some elders speak koori still, this is the case all around Australia..
My accent is considered westy by rich inner city folk as i was raised in west sydney which is a working class region mixed with bogans, i now live in central nsw where its more country and all my work mates say ive got an accent