Differences between the John Deere 569 and 560M Round Balers
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Showing you the differences between the 569 and the 560M John Deere Round Balers.
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Great video! Thanks for showing the difference between the two.
Thanks for watching!
Man, you did a fantastic video, thank you.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Nicely Done! One question I have would be the mega wide pick up, is it identical or is there differences in feeding hay into the baler? 2nd part would be a high moisture kit so their is an understanding of its workings....
The MegaWide pickups are identical unless you were to get the Precutter model with the MegaWide HC2.
We have the 560m. They took a big step back with the net wrap door. It doesn’t seal well so if you get rain or a heavy dew the water will find its way onto the rubber roll. First bale you try to wrap, you get no wrap on the bale, but a lot of net wrap on the rubber roll. I don’t have a problem with it being plastic, but they need to seal the door better.
Thanks for the feedback!
I have a question i bought a 2019 jhon 450e roller it does not have bale shape on monitor i been told i can get a shape sensor kit like on the M series will my monitor work
Yes, the monitor that came with your baler will work when you install the electronic bale shape sensor kit. Good question and thanks for watching!
great vid :) do u have any vids on the 450m baler? the 560m would be 2 big 4 us..
Thanks! I have a video on a comparison if the 560M and the 460M. Maybe that would be helpful!
@@WesternEquipment ur welcome :) o ok i'll take a look.. thanks :)
Not trying to be a negative person bout the composite rear door , but am curious if it will take the impact of backing into a bale?
I was tired one evening and made this mistake.
Metal door no damage at all .
I’m wondering if the composite would protect the net wrap system as well?
Good question. I would say we haven't had any complaints yet that I know of. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for showing this video, you did a great job of showing the differences.
The net wrap brake looks like a very robust improvement!
Is there any difference between the John Deere bearer for the European market and the US market
Good question, I'll have to look into that but I believe there are differences.
Not sure if y’all respond still but I’ve been looking for my serial number on my 560M and am not able to find it. By chance do you know where it is at
Yes, it should be under the hood in the front of the baler where your hydraulic lines hook to the valve block. Thanks for watching!
Some reason my 569 doesn’t pick up the hay very well we put 20 brand new teeth in it raised the pickup all way down do you have any advice
Hmmm, good question. I would have to consult a technician and he would probably need more info. Have you talked to your local dealer about this problem?
Does it leave hay on the ground, or have trouble starting the bale?
Nothing is going to pick hay up well when it's really light.
Square teeth won't pickup light hay
the holes in the top cover are just cosmetic to let in rain. The side door thickness bend is a good one, the holes not so much.
Fair point!
How often would you change net brake
On the old bumper pad style brake it is recommended to change every 1000 bales. On the new band style brake, it is supposed to last 10,000 bales. I would probably still check it every 2000 just to be safe. Good question and thanks for watching!
We have never changed one 568 34000 bales
I will take the 569 any day over the 560M. Looks like some things just cheapened out with plastic instead of metal. And slots for lifts on that front cover. I will always appreciate mechanically being able to adjust something at the machine instead of hoping a switch I pushed in the cab did the same job. They also need to upgrade the hinges on the side doors as I have had 2 break on me and that is just from the weight of the door and shaking as it works in the field.
Thanks for showing the junk on the 560M as I will stick with the 569.
Thanks for watching!
i appreciate the video. i wish deere would drastically alter their basic design. i mean its been pretty much the same since the 1980's. more electric stuff and the addition of a hay chewing secondary lift megawide pickup. i love green stuff but i had to go with a yellow wide pickup baler which is vastly superior to anything deere has to offer. i will buy a deere baler again some day when they come up with a better design. thanks for the video.
john owen why change what works? Frankly Deere rolls a better round bale than anybody else on the market.
@@chevyon37s i can roll a good bale with any brand. the right shaped windrow makes a good looking bale. I'm saying deere needs to design a different system that doesn't involve beating the hay up more before entering the chamber. i had a megawide deere for one season and couldn't wait to get rid of it.
Mabey it,s time to change! So you actually can see the diffrence between other brands and JD. I,m working with Krone and i must say it is more reliable then JD and parts are cheaper! JD parts are made of gold cause they ask a lott of money for it! These days it,s not farmer who milks the cows but JD who milks the farmers! Goodluck with beeing screwed.
Secondary rotor behind pickup isn't beating hay so much as it is lifting and forcing into chamber for higher capacity. After Deere introduced on 7 series, competitors have been copying this type of feed system ever since. CNH, Agco, Kuboto, even the yellow ones are making balers with basically the same rotor. So it must be the best and Deere had it first. Also they haven't changed it much so they got it right the first time.
@@asdjklmnb vermeer doesn't use that system. as far as i know they're the only wide pickup on the market with a true open throat design.
Both still have the cheap springy gage wheels. Something JD needs to fix back to an older model.
We'll pass the word along!
Oh boy he just mentioned the aerodynamics of the round baler
Anything that can make you more efficient right?
@@WesternEquipment haha love it
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The flat pto clutch cover on the 569 doesn’t collect any material. Also the 560M has the slotted top piece... to reduce drag Hahaha come on, it’s a hay baler wind drag is the least of your worries.
So they got rid of the composite handles on the hyd. Cover to reduce fading... but added a massive plastic cover on the back? Gimme a break. The plastic is just cheaper, and frankly looks cheap too.
I’m glad I’ve got a ‘17 569 over a newer 560m. Not a fan of the doors or the new “latching system” aka door props which the door props on the 569 do not require you to open the little spring latch with your hand to close the doors you just push the doors close and they unlatch.
Fair enough!
I had a 569 burn up. Main reason I went back with Vermeer 605n over 560 is that cheap looking net wrap cover on back. Can’t stand it!
Interesting. I get where you are coming from but after the explanation of why they did it do you think it makes sense?
@@WesternEquipment They can say what they want to, but in my opinion the main reason they did it was to save money on cheaper door. Kind of like those slots cut out in top for “aerodynamics “. Less metal less cost! For them not us.
Personally, it just looks like they've streamlined production and reduced manufacturing costs.
I am sure that was part of the plan! More streamlined production equals more efficient build times but I also believe the quality is the same and maybe even improved a bit from previous models!
The new net door is lighter and cheaper.
The scraps punched out of that front piece are probably used as gussets on some other machine that comes out of that plant.
The hose cover without the plastic inserts probably saves a couple bucks each.
The holes in front do nothing for aerodynamics. Now the air hits the panel, goes through the holes, and hits what's behind the panels, too.
Only good thing about the 560M is the grease points. Makes crappy bales. 568 hands down the best
We definitely hear a ton of praise for the 568. I hate that you're having a bad experience with the 560M.
Only bad thing about the 568 is having to put baby powder on the net wrap I heard the 560 has that covered by allowing chaff in the box that keeps the net I pin he back is this true and if it is could I just drill a few holes or somthing to get dust in there ?..
They are having trouble with the 560m too
I just want it to bale hay trouble free. ❤😊
Slip clutches are different
Nice catch! I definitely missed this one. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. Thanks for watching!
The slots on top are to watch the belts pfft drag that is not the reason but for the money a 569 is way better deal
Matter of opinion I guess, but you have to admit that the upgrades are nice!
I can tell you the differences because I build them. And I will be honest.
We are all about hearing what people have to say. Lay it out there if you would like. Thanks for watching!
now compare the John Deere baler to a vermeer
If we get the opportunity, we definitely will!
My boss ran a vermeer a year and traded for a 569.
Said it did the job but they must have hired German engineers for how much more complicated it was.
@@scotcoon1186 I haven't ever messed with a Vermeer so I can't attest to how they compare on simplicity but that is interesting so I may have to look into it!
I run a 604n select vermeer baler 12,300 bales on it and i have not replaced a single tooth in the pickup header as to where our new john deere 460m's started losing them at 5 thousand bales and the main roller bearing went out at 2,400 bales on the 460m
My neighbor has two Vermeer's so one will work
Yes sir! Wind drag ih s a problem when baling! Need more aerodynamic shape! Last time i baled i almost hit 6mph!!!! Whhheeeeeeewwwww!!!!! And please yes use more cheap ass plastic in them and please charge 900 % more for them.
Ouch! Sorry to have ruffled your feathers but thanks for watching.
560M obvious cost reductions.
I'm assuming you mean because of the net wrap box?
I don’t like that cheap plastic on the back. That’s crap. SMV is too high. Why move it up top? Stupid.
You have to agree that the engineering behind it makes sense when considering the cost of having to replace the box if it is damaged...
D MCC let’s be real 99% of motorists don’t pay attention to the SMV sign anyway.
Not worth 2X the money though.
They are both junk buy junk fix junk got junk
Interesting. So what is your baler of choice?