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- Bill Nye: The Earth is Really, Really Not 6,000 Years Old
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The Science Guy returns to Big Think to address his creationist critics and warn against the risks of denying evolution, the fundamental core of life sciences. To deny evolution is to deny the facts that serve as foundation for modern medicine, anatomy, and neuroscience. If America produces too many citizens who deny science, it runs the risk of falling behind the rest of the world in innovation.
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BILL NYE:
Bill Nye, scientist, engineer, comedian, author, and inventor, is a man with a mission: to help foster a scientifically literate society, to help people everywhere understand and appreciate the science that makes our world work. Making science entertaining and accessible is something Bill has been doing most of his life.
In Seattle Nye began to combine his love of science with his flair for comedy, when he won the Steve Martin look-alike contest and developed dual careers as an engineer by day and a stand-up comic by night. Nye then quit his day engineering day job and made the transition to a night job as a comedy writer and performer on Seattle’s home-grown ensemble comedy show “Almost Live.” This is where “Bill Nye the Science Guy®” was born. The show appeared before Saturday Night Live and later on Comedy Central, originating at KING-TV, Seattle’s NBC affiliate.
While working on the Science Guy show, Nye won seven national Emmy Awards for writing, performing, and producing. The show won 18 Emmys in five years. In between creating the shows, he wrote five children’s books about science, including his latest title, “Bill Nye’s Great Big Book of Tiny Germs.”
Nye is the host of three currently-running television series. “The 100 Greatest Discoveries” airs on the Science Channel. “The Eyes of Nye” airs on PBS stations across the country.
Bill’s latest project is hosting a show on Planet Green called “Stuff Happens.” It’s about environmentally responsible choices that consumers can make as they go about their day and their shopping. Also, you’ll see Nye in his good-natured rivalry with his neighbor Ed Begley. They compete to see who can save the most energy and produce the smallest carbon footprint. Nye has 4,000 watts of solar power and a solar-boosted hot water system. There’s also the low water use garden and underground watering system. It’s fun for him; he’s an engineer with an energy conservation hobby.
Nye is currently the Executive Director of The Planetary Society, the world’s largest space interest organization.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Bill Nye: Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science. So if we raise a generation of science students who don’t understand the main idea in biology they’re going to be incompletely educated students and this is going to be trouble for the United States because the United States keeps in the game economically by innovating - having new ideas, new products, new ways of doing things. That’s what the United States produces and brings to the world. And if we raise a significant fraction of our students who don’t understand science we’re not going to have the engineers and scientists to continue this tradition. So for me it’s troubling objectively or subjectively as one can be and as a citizen of the U.S.
I believe, I think here on Big Think that the problem is the same thing that allows us to recognize patterns to imagine shapes and things and routes and ways to get things done before we actually start doing those things that that ability also enables us to understand that despite our best efforts we’re all going to die. And I think that makes all of us a little nutty. We all find it a little troubling. And so because it seems incredible that all this stuff that we store in our brain, all the memories we have, all the mental images that we are able to keep, all the algebra that we learn, that all that goes away when we die is really hard for all of us to accept. And along with this is that we are not nature’s last word. We are not the final answer that nature came up with. That we are not what some entity created as his or her very best work. We’re just one more step on the evolutionary timeline. And for many people that’s so troubling they can’t accept it at all. For me, of course, it’s empowering and amazing and it makes me want to live every moment of every day in the best way possible. But for a lot of people it’s literally unimaginable...
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Guess what The Bible didn't say the Earth is 6000 years old you idiot and no your channel doesn't make people smarter or faster because your post videos are bullshit No evidence just your theories
Collin Pearson SHUT THE FUCK UP
@@tiamacklin9442 You shut the fuck up pussy you're the one with the big mouth and false theories and if you think we came from apes then come throw your shit
Collin Pearson look who’s talking, UR the one who’s talking shit right now, YOU have the big mouth YOU, what are you 10? WHERE THE HELL YOU THINK WE CAME FROM?
@@tiamacklin9442 Look who's talking and by a way The Bible actually doesn't confirm the Earth is 6000 years old some one just took The Bible the wrong way And you have no rights to tell anyone how to live their life or persecute and I see people like you lose all time Everything you said is wrong I made my point dumbass
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
if that aint a politician calling himself a scientist then its a scientist calling himself a politician , but in any case they would both be making it up as they go. im surprised he didn't say the greatest enemy of knowledge is falling in to a black hole and bumping into a singularity .
+t pw
Religion is an example of the illusion of knowledge.
t pw what is religion inherently tho? The illusion of knowledge. The quote is meant to be broad
Archaeopteryx Lithographica “Last great hope” what a joke. I actually like America(citizen btw) but I wouldn’t call it the last great hope. First off there’s an implication in that where there is some universal goal humanity has been trying to achieve and that it has a deadline. What is the goal and when is the deadline? Secondly, how is evolution a vain thing? It’s almost the exact opposite. It’s to believe that you are completely insignificant compared to time and space. It’s vain to believe that you were chosen over all other living creatures on earth to live together with god in heaven
I would disagree with Simply Electronics because religion is basically the illusion of knowledge
"Science, my lad, is made up of mistakes, but they are mistakes which it is useful to make, because they lead little by little to the truth." Jules Verne
"the 3 Gs of life: Get laid, Get paid, Gatorade"
- Frederich Nietzsche
+MusicSprint1080p You're my favorite
+MusicSprint1080p okay Jacksfilms fan lol
Music, Nietzsche didn't say any such thing. Some people will believe it, although I know you're joking. Or are you paraphrasing one of his quotes? Please give it if so.
No, he is right, Nietzsche loved him some Gatorade.
Sedimentary Rocks / Fossil fuels destroys the idea of the Earth being 6000 yrs old.
The whole idea that the Earth is 6000 years came from Judaic/Christian teachings. In these teachings, God created the earth in 6 days, and rested on the 7th. Then early humanity happened, Jesus came, and after his death (and resurrection in Christianity), our current calendar years started (2018, 2019, etc). If God created the earth, with his endless capabilities, he could have easily created the sedimentary rocks and fossil fuels that you claim "destroys" the fact that the Earth is 6000 years old. Please try to counter this argument.
@Charlie Bowden , no one can refute that because whatever sound and logical argument thrown to you, you'll just tell them that God's Power make it happens. So its just useless to argue to people like you. I enjoy science that give meaning and trying to describe our word than your beliefs thats concludes everything with groundless statement that I can't get my head around of. I respect your beliefs , but its just science makes more sense. I am also willing to change my mind if someone can persuade me, unlike you.
@patrickperez I respect your opinion, but my point is that because the idea of a 6000 year old earth came from religion, science can’t disprove it as religion and science are two separate things.
Charlie Bowden, the Greek teachings do not contradict the scientific claim that the universe is billions of years old. So, why choose the Bible instead of the Greek stories?
Read for yourself: "At the beginning there was only Chaos, Night, dark Erebus, and deep Tartarus. Earth, the air and heaven had no existence. Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of LONG AGES sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest" OPEN YOUR EYES
@@charlesbowden8671 stupid
And they all drive cars that use fuel that took over a million years to produce.
According to them that isn't true. God created it there as he know we humans will have use for it so its our god given right to pump it up as much as we can as God allowed us to find it when we was ready for it. See how easy it is to justify everything with religion? Climate change? Doesn't happen as God doesn't work that way, he doesn't punish us for using the resources he have given us too exploit. Starvation and meaningless death? You shouldn't have sinned in the garden you sinner, but don't worry. When you die God will take care of you as long as you believe and speard the faith.
*****
Actually somet theist have used that argument no joke.
***** How can there be this many comments if Rihanna is the only girl in the world?
Richard Barbaros So you are saying 100% of all girls in the world have been beaten by their boyfriend? I guess feminism got a point then.
Cloud Seeker U wot m8?
Its crazy that I watched his show since 3rd grade and I am now 30 years old. He still looks fairly young.
+Miister Josh
There's a twist.. Bill Nye is God- the Morgan Freeman of the science and engineering worlds.
G dillon Lol I will always think of him that way now
+Miister Josh its science! :D
True. He's still the best too.
I was thinking some similar. I never thought the guy from Fear Factor (Joe Rogan ) and Bill Nye the science guy would have a huge influence on me in my life
Most of the algebra was gone by age 22.
There is definitive scientific proof that the Earth is thousands, not billions, of years old.
For example, scientists have found soft tissue in dinosaur bones which are supposedly millions of years old.
But soft tissue can only last thousands of years.
This not only proves that scientific dating methods are grossly inaccurate beyond a few thousand years, but it also proves that dinosaurs lived on this Earth thousands, not billions, of years ago.
@@tylerb9877 No, it doesn't prove it. It only proves our knowledge of the world is still lacking. There must be some chemical process still not understood to the current state of science that prevents tissues from decomposing for much longer. We can already postpone the normal tissue break down rate with certain alcohols or aldehydes. Even bodies submerged in swamps are preserved for much longer.
@João Meira You're telling me that there is some kind of mysterious unknown process which enables tissues to survive *thousands* of times longer than they normally would?
Tyler B Well, science discovers new things all the time. But I guess twitter MUST be smarter right? Lmao
@@tylerb9877 Well, if you so vehemently believe that to be true, absolutely nobody is preventing you from going to college and get a science degree. Once you do so you can do your own research and publish scientific literature. If you can find evidence to support your idea we'll all welcome your output.
But if you can't be bothered to study science, or can't get the grades to do it: trust those who have devoted their lives to understand how the world works.
All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry.
Edgar Allan Poe
Christianity isnt a religion though.
It's a fellowship with Christ.
All but one. Go to jw.org
@Catherine Winter Grace Scara That's fine. That's is Indeed the definition of religion.
Except, Jesus says it is a fellowship. People who are like minded and firm believer in the teachings of Christ.
Plus Christ never demanded worship. He accepted them whenever it is offered.
Instead his teachings were based on Love and Tolerance.
Rather than mindlessly worshipping God.
@Catherine Winter Grace Scara yes but only one religion, one organization is with the true God. There is no other like it. I guarantee it. JW.org
ray vq- as Ricky Gervais said, isn't it amazing that EVERYONE was born into the one and only true religion. Muslims were brought up believing the Koran, Christians were brought up to believe the bible, Jews were brought up to believe the torah. How utterly lucky to be brought up with the TRUE one...
I love how he always wears a bow tie. No matter what.
Nicholas Audinet Haha, yeah, i agree. It's also so adorable how someone with an evil angry face chiseled from a life of spreading anti-God propaganda puts on a nice face when the cameras are on.
Just like how Kevin Smith always wear a hockey jersey. No matter what.
Post Impatica Yeah he is definitely of satan or one of the evil lizard people. Shame, Nye, shame shame shame.
Post Impatica Science goes where reality leads it. It cares not for people's opinions, philosophies, and other believes. If your believes gets in the way of science and in turn gets in the way of reality, well that's too bad but your believes must make way for reality.
Wow, what a guy, he will lead the revolution against the idiots, god doesn't exist, and that's fact
As a Christian (that does not agree that the earth is 6000 years old), I agree with this. Creationism should be taught in religious studies. Evolution should be taught in science.
Saying "as a Christian" Doesn't make u any more credible
I do not feel the need to reference myself friend. Particularly on CZcams. I am just stating my stance on the matter. Take it or leave it.
Chronos5618 but u did reference yourself. Just saying, it doesn't boost ur credibility
I'm not going to argue with you over something as trivial as a CZcams comment, so I shall wish you a good day and bid you fair well. May your continued voyage through the wild frontier of the Internet be ever more fruitful.
Chronos5618 ok smart ass I wad just pointing something out. Take some advice
On first seeing Bill Nye, I fully expected him to produce a bible, and then, to comprehensively thump it. How wrong can a first impression be?!! He is the voice of erudition and sanity. I love the guy. 🇬🇧
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
@@angeloalexandertomas5089 The dealers of fallacy.
This man has been making science and learning fun and approachable for my entire life (well probably longer), what an incredible person. If only more people would listen to him. I just can't understand how we seem to be going backwards into religious indoctrination in this day and age so thoroughly.
ok this is not true and people are not going backwards the bible is true and people are going backwards into evolution
@@joshplayzgamingpetsandcode2052 thanks for providing an example
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
Unfortunately, some people are critical thinkers, and are capable of detecting irony and recognizing logical fallacies.
@@davidgravy2007 And those critical thinkers are mostly centrists or republicans. Despite what you might have been told. When the Far Left turn America into a communist shithole, the critical thinkers will be the first people shipped off to the gulags. Or executed. Just like Pol Pot wiping out all the educated people and people who could read because they might be a threat to the regime. When it happens, don't say you weren't warned.
Everybody knows Earth is 2016 years old as now, duh!!
Nice joke m8 (I hope your joking, Pls tell me your joking)
+rllok i know right
yea
even ironically that's not funny that's just dumb
+broque obama ... No, it's religious logic.
"People went a little crazy on the electric internet, the computer machine that the kids use." - Bill Nye 2014
That was funny!
james wasda it was a joke lol pretty funny
Not even the smartest people on Earth can understand what the fuck is going on over here. RIP
You have some point to make?
The genealogies of the Bible prove that the earth is approximately 6,000 years old. We Christians know that this is true because the Word of God is perfect and infallible.
In contrast, radiocarbon dating and other manmade methods of dating are extremely inaccurate. There are many errors in these dating methods. The fact is that we cannot prove that these methods of dating are accurate because they're not.
I am a catholic school survivor. Even way back in the 6th grade I knew the earth was older than 6000 yrs old. It cracks me up people actually believe in creationalism fairy tale.
So weird.
I was deeply indoctrinated to the point that I had to ignore evolution and the big bang and anything else that went against god claims. It was not until my 20's that I was able to correct this insanity and it cost me dearly in opportunities in life. Don't let your religion take your mind. Not worth it
Bothell Guy, you were in the right path don’t be wise in your own eyes
@@exposidiy6024 On. On the right path. And no I was not. Every time I read the bible it got worse for the christian position. Your book literally says to cure leprosy by scattering bird blood around and doing a spell! Ridiculous.
You should read the book and free your mind man. It is nothing but a Bronze Age peoples first attempt at explaining what they saw. They got a TON wrong and it is super obvious if you read the bible that an omniscient being could not have inspired such drivel.
Have you read the whole bible, what you mentioned happened in the Old Testament before the word became flesh in the New Testament every sickness and demon is casted our with power in prayer, also if you think about why most believe in the old earth is because they have to accept the fact that we evolved years ago because if they would go with the 6,000 year old earth then we would of seen changes in our dna and body structure at least in the past 300 years that’s why years from now there will still be no change
And try to read the Bible for what it is at the end of the day it comes down to faith listen bro you have to truly believe with all your heart that Jesus is lord and ask for forgiveness and close all evil doors like meditation, drugs, pornography, spells, witchcraft and zodiac signs so that he may enter your life and work works in you
He loves loves you brother🙏 give him another chance
@@exposidiy6024 Yes I have read the bible several times end to end and maybe twice more in accumulation of different bits. To say that it happened in the Old testament and thus you do not have to pay attention goes against what your jesus said in Mathew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Considering that that has not happened you are still bound by the OT laws as well as the new. On top of that if you want to chuck out the OT you have to lose the 10 commandments, original sin, etc. You can NOT have a New Testament without the Old and your unchanging god clearly changes massively in character in between. The only difference is the laws for the Jews vs the laws for the non-Jews. So you are wrong about that and I suspect you might not have read the bible yourself.
Thing two! Do you have any evidence at all for your silly claims about evolution? Cause it is literally the branch of science with the most evidence supporting it. Freaking Gravity has less and I can drop a pen and watch it fall. Your claims show only that you do not understand evolution or Big Bang Cosmology and stellar evolution. Also if you have ever had a flue shot you have benefited directly from our applied knowledge of evolution and that would not work at all if you were right and evolution was false so.....
Thing three! Is there any position at all that I could not take if I base it ion faith? If the answer is no then you have a DEEPLY flawed method for determining reality. If faith can excuse any answer it can be used to confirm nothing. Faith is entirely useless and what is worse is that it can confirm the wrong answer in the exact same way it confirms the right one. Far as the bible goes not only have I read it but I have studied its history and the Council of Nicea and how the bible was assembled and how often translation errors are made etc etc etc. Know what found? Same thing as when I investigated any other religions text. An obviously man made and man inspired book trying to make sense of the world around them and mostly getting it wrong. And not just scientifically! Morally! For example the bible says that eternal punishment for finite crime is moral and good but any investigation into basic morality or ethics will show that idea to be flatly INSANE and only something a tyrant of the worst order would even suggest let alone actually carry out. That's from the NT just for you ;)
Did... did you say witchcraft? Do you really believe in magic?..... Maybe consider reading a book published this decade? Try out M Theory by Dr. Michio Kaku. He goes through real quick in the beginning to show that we know a LOT LOT LOT more than most religious fundamentalists could even dream! I know this because (again) I was raised christian. It did not hold up to investigation and the Argument from Emotion Fallacy is not good enough. Do you have any real evidence or is this just an argument from fallacies? Cause I don't have any interest in the second but the first interests me greatly.
In the Old Testament God was of the Jews and made a covenant with them so they shall keep until Jesus returns, But in the New Testament even Jesus does not keep that of the old he does not keep the sabbath day holy and does not require animal offerings anymore
This is why I think that we actually *do* need to engage with young earth creationist adults. The adults are the ones who are voting in our elections and they're the ones who are teaching their kids this nonsense. Kids, in general, are going to feel a stronger connection with their parents and immediate family members than they are with their science teacher at school. When your entire social support group is comprised of adults who read a modern literalist interpretation of the Bible and who are indoctrinating you into that belief system, it's very difficult to break out of that cycle. It becomes part of your identity and set of core values. As such, the adults who are in charge of propagating this garbage need to publicly be challenged and disputed/refuted.
I think, in a way you're right. It's just so damn hard to talk with these peope, I might even say impossible. I've seen many people try (not only Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Lawrence Kraus, Sam Harris etc., but in my personal life as well. And everybody failed! There are certain rules of discourse that creationists do not apply (f.e. accepting an argument that has more empirical background than your own). And that's probably why it is just impossible to reach a consensus with them...
***** That's not always the case, though. There are plenty of examples of people who used to be young earth creationists who are now either atheists or have abandoned their YEC beliefs in favor of incorporating evolution into their religious views. These people are somewhat fewer and farther between, granted, but it's not like it never happens, either.
TestMeatDollSteak
I am a former YEC. I was indoctrinated in a Baptist school. What changed my thinking was purely curiosity. I researched and learned and came to the conclusion on my own that what I had been taught was wrong. Rejecting YEC did not weaken my Christian faith as many young earthers believe, quite the contrary. My faith is stronger now, knowing that the bible is still relevant and true, and really does not contradict science at all. I am not an anomaly either, there are many of us, just look up Biologos on youtube.
Case in point, all ye doubters!! Read BarnGeek's comment! I disagree with him about his religious claims, as I'm sure most/all atheists will, but countering young earth creationism can nonetheless be a fruitful endeavor!
TestMeatDollSteak I agree with you that YEC should be challenged and evolution defended -- both for the sake of children and for the sake of the BarnGeek 's of the world. However, my guess is that BarnGeek was more influenced by books or in depth videos by the likes of Bill Nye, than by comments by unkown persons on CZcams. When one is seriously seeking for the truth, it is quality, not quantity of arguments that matter. Yes, one can have an in depth discussion with a YECist if one has the energy and patience for undertaking such a task. However, I think a simple statement of "you are wrong" is an adequate response for the average person to make. It challenges YEC in a public forum, so that those who might wonder, get a chance to wonder, yet leaves those who are wondering to search after serious sources that will actually actually convince them. Those are my thoughts, but I am open to hearing feedback.
We all live in the Matrix anyway so we will never know how old the Earth is because it's not real.
That's actually very true.
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The Matrix is a lot like God. Right now, it can't be disproven. The main difference is that most people don't believe in the Matrix and most people believe in God. I say it's quite possible we live in a Matrix, but I'm unsure we'll be able to ever find out.
lol by that logic, matrix can also be in another matrix, and so on forever to infinity, which I doubt
Dominik Sučić Perhaps our matrix was created in another matrix, and maybe we can create another one. I doubt it, too.
I pray to Joe Pesci, he's a guy that can get things done!
Dont.spent your time doing something better than praying
@@hardcorasapotinazaret1959 He is referring to a George Carlin Act
Bill Nye is so smart but he still describes the internet/computer as "The electric internet and the computer machine the kids use"
that was clearly a joke man
Tim H I just thought it was funny, I never said that.
Of course the Earth isn't 6,000 years old -- that's laughable. It's actually 7,000 years old.
Nice joke, lol
+kingv911 Or 6001..
it was created last Thursday wtf
+kingv911 trool :)))
+Ovios Money The word you're looking for is 'sarcasm'. I mean, pretty close, but still.
"The electric internet; the computer machine that the kids use"
Bill Nye kills me!
Get out of here!
Should I call the police?
Sandra Noneofyourbusiness where de blood at?
The science guy, not the Scientist
The steam box
Bill Nye just said what I’ve been thinking about for the past 2 months. The respect I have for this legend! Thank you Bill Nye
What ape has become a man? And you believe Freemason Government paid actors.
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
Bill Nye is literally a children's TV actor, if that's where you're getting your scientific information, you need to rethink your idols.
1:38 the way I see it is that in the past 13,8 billion years I wasn't there. And it didn't matter. The four decades that I've been here also don't matter much except for a few people who know me. And for the next 13,8 billion year and more it will also not matter that somewhere, some time for the briefest of moments I inhabited a planet somewhere. (If you think I sound a bit gloomy, I am anything but that and am pretty happy with my life. I just have an appreciation for how insignificant a single life is.)
Bill Nye gave Ken "Fuckwitt" Hamm a cold glass of shut up by asking him the question that proved to me that the earth is older than 6k years old by asking him about star light traveling longer than 6k years to get to earth and he HAD NO FUCKING ANSWER! WELL DONE BILL,
henry landivar Unfortunately, that does not matter one whit to Ham's groupies. They sat there, thinking to themselves "Nye can't disprove God, what means we win!" Yes, no matter how scientist versus creationist debates go the creationists ALWAYS declare victory for themselves. That is why I insist that such debates accomplish nothing aside form giving creationists undeserved publicity. That is bad.
Ken Ham's laughable ark project was a losing proposition. After the debate though, donations flooded in and the project could move forward. Ham may have been humiliated at the debate by any objective standard, but he cried all the way to the bank.
4a8p9x The bottom line of that whole thing was the simple question asked by an audience member via an index card: "What would make you change your beliefs?"
Bill Nye answered, "Evidence."
Hamm answered, "Nothing can make me change my beliefs."
The absolute of his answer and the close minded realization it gave was the end-all to the debate in my eyes.
4a8p9x I don't think Bill Nye was crying when he cashed the check that Ham wrote him for participating in the debate.
Caleb T
A mere scrap of what Ham got in donations.
4a8p9x
Maybe Ham has an aggressive business plan.
Are there really people who believe in a 6000 year old earth now a day's?
+Easily Offended Don't Read This... Unfortunately, yes.
+Easily Offended Don't Read This... Are there really people who don't know how to spell?www.thefreedictionary.com/nowadays
Ηλίας Φραγκάκος srry mn i dotn no y i mysed tht oen
***** You are right nothing came from nothing... Energy did expand transforming into matter, and just because it is unlikely life like earth life would survive in the Universe doesn't mean it takes faith. It is vary possible the big bang model is missing a lot, but you can not say that it takes faith, the big bang theory has evidence in to form of math and observational astronomy. The Universe is 13.9 billion years old, 90 billion light years across, and made mostly of Dark matter and energy (96%) which is nothing that is really something.... To review I believe Evolution and the big bang are true because of mathematic and observational data that by many different fields has been proven.
Now to address how what you believe takes less faith then what I believe... You believe that God existed before there was anything, even time, so he came form nothing, he created light before stars, he made stars (the universe) just to guide our travels and signal the seasons (even though we can't see most of them), and that humans were deceived by a talking snake that tricked them into eating a fruit that would allow them to know what evil is and what good is... But wait if they didn't know good and evil how could they know disobeying god was a sin...
+Easily Offended Don't Read This... No, no one believes that the Earth is 6000 years old. That's what they believed in the year 2000. It is of course, now 6015 years old.
"They're all happy to have had smallpox vaccinations if they're a certain age."
Me: Ummmm
"Or they're all happy to have not died of smallpox, I'll put it that way."
Me: Better. They refuse to believe that they don't have it because the majority of people they knew got vaccinated
Evolutionists had nothing to do with being founders of modern science but only the by the Creation scientists. All diseases are the result of mutations losing information and all bacterial resistance is the result of either losing information or by using already existing information & had nothing to do with the story of evolutioniosm.
Honestly I just think simply think some just don't want to admit they're wrong. For thousands of years they say and believe in one thing and refuse change as time goes on.
Hey Bill or who ever from big think reads this. I watch alot of your debates and I remember one I can't remember who it was with but you when into detail about Noah's Ark and about how at the time a wooden ship of that size was impossible and whatnot. Well the Point is I also have and enjoy debates with religious people. I showed one of my old coworkers that and after almost a year of debates about religion and evaluation, that single video converted him away from his religion and he no longer goes to church every Sunday and thanks me. I feel as tho he should thank bill tho as well as I should. So thank you bill from me and my buddy dan
Also if you could talk about that here on big think it might help to change more lives for the better!
Yea that was it thank you!
It's incredibly heart warming knowing Bill Nye saved a mans life from a cult... I mean Christianity :)
Bill is great. Though I only have a short time on this earth, it has been enriched by the fruits of knowledge set forth by this very generous man. Thank You Bill! (I loved your tv show when I was a kid, it stirred up a restless curiosity in me.)
That was also the video that brought me out of Christianity. Well, I had had my doubts, but this was the final nail in the coffin.
George Santana Many folks have claimed to have found noahs ark. The problem is, it's never noah's ark. You can't find something that never existed. We have many flood myths, from different cultures, that were regional and happened at different points in time. The claims of a noahs ark point to petrified wood (which takes millions of years to form) and stones that are in the shape of something... but in reality the dating techniques and other realities further point out that these are hoaxes. Most are from charlatans that also have odd claims and make their money from fools through book sales. Go ahead and study the "scientists" that gladly take peoples money and do these "expeditions" in Turkey, they largely receive paper mill degrees and write discredited nonsense. Nobody has found noah's ark. We have no global evidence of a flood. We have trees that are older than 6,000 years. We have civilizations that are older than 6,000 years. We have genetics and can view DNA sequencing that does not show 6,000 years ago apparently we incested to the current population. The math never adds up. Nothing adds up with your claims.
Whenever I feel worried I look at the like/dislike ratio. ahhhhhh
Mike Oxsbigg me too
+ted simonson Some people believe the Earth is HOLLOW. You'd be surprised at what some peole will swallow.
I was a rock - hound / nerd as a teen, & I saw enough evidence to convince me THEN that Earth was uncountable billions of years old.
I believe I'm Elvis. Prove I'm not.
I'd still believe it.
+ted simonson
And for those simple-minded people out there who simply refuse to believe the truth, please note that Ted capitalized the word "FACTS" as evidence that they are, in fact, "FACTS".
It is one of the greatest tragedy's that people only want to believe what makes them feel good now and that it is widely accepted.
Bill Nye really really isn’t a scientist.
when did he say he was? He's a science guy, AKA a guy who's interested in science.
It's, at least to me as a person living outside the USA, amusing to see what religion has degenerated to in the USA. For example, here in Germany we don't have religious people go crazy and against science. In the US it's treated like the bible contains an unquestionable truth that contradicts science, therefore science must be wrong. Here it's more like that there's the christian faith and there's the story behind it and the mythology around it and during worship and rituals, these are pretended to be facts of course, but outside of that noone seriously claims that these are true. And even if you meet a "true believer", they usually aren't trouble, just regular people, often extraordinary friendly, because they believe that to be a good thing. I really have a great deal of respect for the atheist movement that spend so much effort on saving children, that is saving their education and keep them guarded from indoctrination.
Well said!
Grüße :)
I'dd say there's a bit of everything in the USA. A few bad spoil the bunch
While it is true that in general, (central) Europe is pretty much done with religion, you really shouldn't forget about the influx of the religious extreme heading our way. One should only look at the IS recruiters to see an obvious example that indoctrination is not dead in our lands.
Islam is flooding Europe at the moment though
Gardow That's certainly true, there are a lot of groups who are trying and to a degree succeeding in indoctrinating people, not only religious groups. My point is just that over here religion is about giving people traditions, provide services (such as funerals) and lend a helping hand in some bizarre scenarios, since the church has still some aces up their sleeve. I wouldn't call it dead, but more of a niche thing. However in America creationist are demanding obediance by abusing the education of children and the politics have yet failed to firmly stand against that, so scientist have to jump in. Over here there's a simple regulation, there are things children have to learn at school (math, sciency, language) but they are entitled to reilgious education as well, from which they can opt out. The religious education takes place at school, but is provided by the respective religous group, which usually means the two churches.
I don't recall ever being taught creationism in a classroom, and since most people believe in evolution, it doesn't upset me that evolution is widely taught in our school systems. This is coming from the christian (I'd really rather not debate this [It never ends well and you know it]). I believe that religious bias should be completely banned from the PUBLIC school system, and if it's a private school, then they can teach that the sky is purple and that giraffes originated in Antarctica. My main point is, that I believe that religion is a personal set of beliefs, and that those beliefs shouldn't be taught as fact, considering there is a significant amount of bias involved.
That's the problem, evolution is a religion too. There's no proof of evolution. It should not be taught to our children , are we trying to brainwash students
@@GTSN38 Stfu religious nut
@@GTSN38 I'm very curious to know why you think there is no proof for evolution. I have witnessed natural selection hundreds of times in the laboratory. People have been tirelessly trying to find alternative explanations for over a century, with little avail. When we assume Darwin was correct, all of our models simply work. When we assume Darwin was correct, we're able to predict how organisms change with time to a remarkable degree of precision. No other hypothesis has given us so much predictive power and accuracy. It is not an understatement to say that evolution is the foundation of modern biology, a field which (you might be aware) has contributed amazing things to our society.
So you've seen reptiles turn into birds ? Wow and I thought miracles don't happen . Thanks for enlightening me.
@@GTSN38 Propose an alternative hypothesis, and justify it. Once you do that, I will listen to you. As I said, evolution is simply the most justifiable and consistent explanation, despite the attempts made by talented scientists for more than a century.
“We are not nature’s last word - we are just one more step on the evolutionary timeline”.
that amazing, wow so what are we exactly doing here, and why we waste our little time with school and wars.
Exactly
I was just wondering what those two things have to do with each other 😅
ive respcted this man since inwas a kid. i used to fool around in school but when they threw on a billnye tape. i was allll ears. thanks bill now you know!
Of course its 6000 years old. It says so in the Bible. Don't listen to this guy. He has no idea what he is talking about.
*****
To be honest, they do tend to push it though.
ha lol
no bible says that the universe is 7000 years old so read the bible or go see his debate with Ken Ham
The devil has blinded him withfancy facts and science!!!!
It also says that it is okay to have slaves...
Shouldn't you be looking for a white guy to serve, instead of throwing your brain-shit here on the web?
And btw, just so you know... jesus waas gay. Not that it would make any difference to me, or that it would matter for something! That is a certainty... He was gay! See any of his 12 "Disciples" and you shall understand!
Why not forbid teaching religion for minors?
yksnimus Been trying for a long time. Too many religious people in the way though. Should remove them from interfering with us.
yksnimus
This is actually a good idea...as far as getting parents not to teach their kids religion...but making it illegal is a violation of autonomy. There is alot of evidence that heavily suggests its hard to change your way of thinking after a certain developmental phase in the brain....needless to say, the majority of religious people were taught religion until this phase ended
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Who cares if it violates their autonomy? If we want to outlaw the practicing of Religion altogether we will! People who are dumb enough to buy into this bullshit and then do the same thing to their children shouldn't matter to us. What we say goes, teaching children anything other than what is scientifically fact should be considered child abuse and be dealt with the same way.
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Yea i totally understand and i agree it is child abuse, but once we give the government a type of power like that that normally resides in a grey area, they may become more power hungry. We should create a secret society that takes care of this so it wont be tied in with the government..like vigilantes against mind control
An ideal world would suggest so. Unfortunately, indoctrination occurs at birth onwards, usually by the household and not the education system.
18 years if school learning about how old the earth is and evolution and I find this....
Why so many dislikes?! So many ignorants! Some people are so blinded by religion they can not even pause for a minute and listen to this special, rational, smart person!! Such a shame!!!
Who the hell can hate Bill Nye?
Pleblu People with common sense.
Is it just me, or did this guy miss an epic chance to be one of the Doctors?
Nye is cool even without the bow-tie.
Bill Nye as Doctor Who... hmmm thats a thought. It would be a great science spin-off to be honest.
Wait, isn't this Peter Capaldi??
Liamv4696 No David Tennant got older much faster because of all the time travel.
themplar
No, that was in the missing year of the temporal paradox.
People think the world is 6k years old? Wow I am smarter than some people...
cillrend tsk tsk
Nope God Made Everything 6k years ago.
+Comrade Mark You're one of those people he's talking about
Comrade Mark you're astonishingly stupid.
cillrend Yeah, if you ever feel bad about yourself, just remember that creationists exist. You will feel like a genius in comparison.
"The computer machine that the kids use" This is why I have Bill Nye Friday
Nye, Dawkins, Tyson, Hawkings, and Krauss for U.S. Board of Education, PLEASE.
And Hitchens of course
+Ryan Tarabocchia you can't resurrect him.
Dolce Dolente If the world was billions of years old.....
Planet earth wouldn't be here as of now. Why? Simply our magnetic fields are decaying at a constant, if not decaying rate. By the time of now, our atmosphere should completely be gone.
303 Rejects I'm not a cosmologist, but logic would tell me that even if we know k (constant rate of decay), we would also have to know both m¹ (level at origin) and m² (level at present) to reject the theory based on mathematical falsification. The h. sapien animal hasn't been around long in the grand scheme, scientific inquiry even less. Sampling becomes more accurate and reliable the more points of sampling. My first question is, how could we possibly have the expanse of time to take an adequate number of samples?
Secondly, what little of astrophysics I know, I understand that things can get wonky in the cosmos. For instance, Newtonian calculus determines gravitational pull by a solitaire source on an object in space, but meets its limitations when more than one source of gravitational pull is acting. By no means am I an astrophysicist, but my understanding of what that community tells us of the cosmos is that it is expanding at an ever faster rate of speed. If the universe is expanding, then proximity between bodies is not constant; neither would I expect magnetic pull to be constant. Adding to this the fact that bodies sometimes collide, split, and join... Let's just say I am a bit skeptical or at least curious how we can determine k (constant rate).
Finally, I am a communications sciences major. I know neither those figures nor how one would calculate them. Not that they cannot be calculated, just that I am not trained nor qualified to do so. It's not my realm of expertise. But, m¹ (point of origin) - as far as I can tell - is going to be a major challenge of determination, being that measurement was never taken (obviously, as the process by which we would measure would have been invented yet, as we would not have been here, much less scientifically cognizant to make the inquiry).
Perhaps you can explain or point me toward some sources that explain your falsification process more thoroughly? I would be a worthless skeptic if I failed to keep an open mind.
+Dolce Dolente, what do magnetic fields have to do with atmosphere? I don't understand what you are getting at.
What I find troubling is how often Nye uses the word troubling.
Hahah true. It's because he retains himself from offending at all cost, when he wants to say "Thats stupid/wrong" he says troubling, when he thinks you are an idiot or something is he usually says " thats an extraordinary view" and so on. Its so fun to catch up on those
The word troubling is troubling indeed
@@crimsonngb32 Troublingly so.
Bill, I just wanted to say you e been a huge inspiration to me ever since I would tell in grade school your theme song 🎶. Stay strong your a wonderful person-Justin web
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” Frantz Fanon
Until a few years ago, I had no idea that religion (well, christianity at least) considers the Earth to be 6000 years old. The first time I heard it was in a Hollywood movie. I mean, I took religion for 7 years in school and this was never discussed or told. At the same time however, evolution was taught in my school as fact. This debate about the world's age seems to be a thing very specific to the USA people and their educational system. As a non american, I find the whole thing extremely weird.
The Bible does not say the world was created unequivocally in seven 24 hour days. The Hebrew actually says it was created in seven "Yoms" (it's my understanding that there is no word for a 24-hour day in Hebrew). "Yom" means, literally, "long period of time". It has been translated as "day" for simplicity's sake.
A "Yom" can mean a 24 hour period (IE: I haven't eaten in a "long period of time"), or it could be billions of years (IE: the universe took a "long period of time" to develop). It's a flexible term, in other words. There is no necessity to perceive it as a literal 24-hour period, and people as early as St. Augustine were suggesting this (about 1500 years before the Theory of Evolution, and long before we had a conception of the universe being billions of years old).
Furthermore, while it says God created humans male and female, it doesn't clearly say HOW. Why not via evolutionary processes? "God created them male and female via evolutionary processes". Nothing explicitly contradicting the bible in that sentence. Indeed, the bible says Man was created from the "dust of the earth"; not a radically different proposition than most evolutionists make.
Clearly, it's very easy to reconcile the bible with science. We don't need one to trump the other.
Well said and like the Catholic pope had announced within the framework of evolution, "god" is "a" source from which evolution spawned. Sol Invictus!
Good points, although you are justifying vague outlines of what the bible proposes. Because of the ambiguity of the term "Yom", you can't really use it to justify what many argue, which is the world being created in 600 years.
Because so many things in the Bible are open to interpretation and proven contradictory, it is easy to rationalize and tailor it to make it work with science. It is also easy to express it in contradiction with science. This is why religion is such a powerful tool when it comes to manipulating the masses.
Science on the other hand does not need to reconcile to the Bible, it functions and changes in search for the truth.
Kurt H 6000 years*
Kurt H right on Kurt. True that.
How do you know which parts are literal and which are not? What if the resurrection of Jesus just was a metaphor?
2:30 - He talks of time zones; perhaps a subtle reminder that the Earth is undoubtedly round...
I;ve never heard that freshwater fish issue. Really good point.
Bill Nye seems to be looking for a job as Captain Obvious.
You seem to be looking for a job as Captain Troll.
stimproid
That job is not only taken, it's oversaturated.
If it was so obvious there would not be religion.
Someone needs the job, as people still refuse to believe what he is saying.
Maybe if you don't live in the States, then this stuff is just a firm grasp on the obvious. Here in Jesusland, however, there are still a mass quantity of people who need a little. . .extra help.
"You can't talk to a man(or woman), when he don't wanna understand" Old lyric there sums it up.
LOL, I didn't even think about the "salt and rish" watter mix...😅.
In case anyone tells you that the 6000 years thing is metaphorical it actually can't be given that it is never explicitly written that the Earth is 6000 years old, it can simply be worked out using maths and the numbers given in the bible.
bill nye, were you there?
*grabs a chair and popcorn for the incoming shitstorm*
Yes, it's called being alive and coherent. Try it some time.
Didn't try hard enough buddy, good effort though :)
Yeah we know how long it takes Pluto to orbit the sun. Guess what, no one was there....248 years
Creationist: the Earth is not 6,000 years old, in fact it's 6,001 years old.
Me: SMH
dsvet wtf is wrong with u
World wide Web I’m Christian watching this giving Bill a chance. Give Jesus a chance, honestly listen to him.
@@dsvet Science vs. Evolution is an oxymoron
Obviously biblical time is thought of differently than regular time, in the same way dog years are to human years (7 to 1). When believers say the earth is 6,000 y/o, one year has got to be equal to aprox. 633,333.33 actual years. Multiplied by 6,000 = 3.8 billion years. The age of the earth. Which means God has to be at least 13.8 billion years old (or more). The age of the universe....
😳 ... I'm a genius!
If you think the world is 6000 years old then you might as well think it’s flat too lol
No, it is not the same thing. We can directly observe the earth NOW. We cannot observe the past development of the earth directly.
The hypothesis that the earth is millions of years old assumes that there is no god, only physical processes.
The hypothesis that the earth is thousands of years old assumes that there is a god intervening in his creation.
It then depends on your starting assumptions how you interpret the data. We should be more humble. We all are prone to bias when interpreting data.
@@chris-nj3vg The speed of light is a fixed thing my dude. We can see billions of years out. If everything was thousands of years old we wouldn't be able to see past our own galaxy. And we can see billions. Plus you can directly observe and make an educated guess on what happened in the past. There's a whole science dedicated to it (geology).
@@creyes4182 The laws of physics cannot describe the creation of the laws of physics.
@@creyes4182 Why would I think that the speed of light was the same at the creation of light? Its speed wasn't even defined then.
If u believe we came from fish ur dumb as there is no observable evidence for evolution 💀
Bill Nye is nothing short of an amazing man. Thank you, sir for being one of my greatest inspirations, and mentors through the years.
in before religion wars
(Spoiler Alert)
The religious guys are probably wrong. The "certain" nonreligious guys are also, but to a lesser extent.
I think you can believe in a higher power and know the world is 4+ billion years old .
Baby Jesus Sure, it all within the realm of possibility for a person to believe that.
LX I like that, anyone who says "there is no God" is in the same boat as religious people.
Ahmad Hadder the right statement is there might be a God but I don't belive in one.
Ahmad Hadder
Even Dawkins and Tyson do not say in absolute terms that there is no god. They say there has never been even one shred of evidence for one.
That distinction is huge and your lack of understanding or acknowledging it makes your perspective one that is derived from ignorance.
I'm Christian, but I have no idea why some people would believe a date declared by a random Pope in the Renaissance was the beginning of the world.
This title should've been obvious, but thanks for the creationists we need this.
In my experience I encounter a small minority of Christians that believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. To most of faith science is the revelation of Gods Glory. Creation is what we find ourselves immersed in. Science, not creationism, is the exploration of all of creation. I am a Catholic, I have faith in the mysteries beyond my comprehension- yet I trust in the sciences to expand my sphere of understanding to unravel these mysteries a little more each day. Am I wrong?!
tobber08 LOL!
Simple and correct.
tobber08 you do realize I stated that I wholeheartedly agree with, and respect science... right?
420AnalPlusher69 I completely agree. Most of us believe science is the unraveling of the mystery of creation, and of all that is- I haven't met anyone personally who believes in creationism and excludes science.
_My concern is not for the grownups who take the time to write these inflammatory things and react to your fabulous website and so on. My concern is for the people who are still in school, the people who are the future of the U.S., the future of the U.S. economy. And larger the future of the world’s economy. I mean the United States is so influential. It’s the third most populous nation in the world and it’s the nation that sent people to the moon. I mean it’s still a big influence. You can make very strong arguments for South Korea, Japan - huge economies doing amazing - Brazil doing amazing things. But still the United States is the leader in this stuff and so when we exclude a generation of science students we’re headed for trouble._
-Perfect.
A dozen radiometric dating techniques show the earth is millions and billions of years old (4.56 billion). Other data points include yearly laminate layers called varves, some lakes have 20 million varves, ice cores have up to 1 million annual layers, stalagmite chronology show 550,000 annual monsoons, chalk cliffs and coral atolls took hundreds of thousands of years to form, Bristlecone tree ring unbroken chronology shows 10,000 years.The earth is really not 6,000 years old. Go Bill Nye!
People that believe we just exist without a creator is really troubling!
Really? That's just your opinion.
I'd think that poverty, hunger, and disease are much more troubling but okay..
This is why we must learn as much as possible of the time and contribute as much information to the modern world as possible.
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
@@UndreamtJoker7False analogy fallacy.
This is just a variation of the watchmaker argument fallacy.
You can also make the comparison that since watches are complex and requires a human to build them, and since humans are complex, a being more complex than us made us.
I can also claim that since watches were made in the 1500s and watches are complex , then so we're humans because humans are complex
It's fallacious.
Free hugs for Bill Nye!
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I just talk to a Norwegian guy. He claims the earth is flat, that there is no space, no atomic bombs, no dinos, no holocaust etc. Emm, and there are several people like him.
I’ve been an atheist since I was a child and I remember in middle school, instead of “oh my god” I would jokingly say “oh my bill nye” kind of ironic
Three questions for you:
1) How did matter and energy originate?
2) How do you think life originated?
3) What is your strongest scientific argument to support bacteria are the ancestors of Bill Nye?
Thank you, I look forward to your answers.
@@BillMorganChannel "1) How did matter and energy originate?"
just before the Big Bang, space was filled with an unstable form of energy, whose nature is not yet known. At some instant, this energy was transformed into the fundamental particles from which arose all the matter we observe today. That instant marks what we call the Big Bang.
A remarkable consequence of this model is that, if even a pinpoint of space contained this primordial form of energy, then the pinpoint of space would expand extremely rapidly and would bring into existence more of the same kind of energy. In fact, all the matter in the universe could have arisen from a bit of primordial energy weighing no more than a pea. This amazing scenario is a consequence of applying Einstein's theory of gravity to the inflationary universe model. Thus the known laws of nature can in principle explain where the matter and energy in the universe came from, provided there was at least a tiny seed of energy to begin with.
"2) How do you think life originated?"
Living things (even ancient organisms like bacteria) are enormously complex. However, all this complexity did not leap fully-formed from the primordial soup. Instead life almost certainly originated in a series of small steps, each building upon the complexity that evolved previously:
Simple organic molecules were formed.
Simple organic molecules, similar to the nucleotide, are the building blocks of life and must have been involved in its origin. Experiments suggest that organic molecules could have been synthesized in the atmosphere of early Earth and rained down into the oceans. RNA and DNA molecules - the genetic material for all life - are just long chains of simple nucleotides.
Replicating molecules evolved and began to undergo natural selection.
All living things reproduce, copying their genetic material and passing it on to their offspring. Thus, the ability to copy the molecules that encode genetic information is a key step in the origin of life - without it, life could not exist. This ability probably first evolved in the form of an RNA self-replicator - an RNA molecule that could copy itself.
Many biologists hypothesize that this step led to an "RNA world" in which RNA did many jobs, storing genetic information, copying itself, and performing basic metabolic functions. Today, these jobs are performed by many different sorts of molecules (DNA, RNA, and proteins, mostly), but in the RNA world, RNA did it all.
Self-replication opened the door for natural selection. Once a self-replicating molecule formed, some variants of these early replicators would have done a better job of copying themselves than others, producing more "offspring." These super-replicators would have become more common - that is, until one of them was accidentally built in a way that allowed it to be a super-super-replicator - and then, that variant would take over. Through this process of continuous natural selection, small changes in replicating molecules eventually accumulated until a stable, efficient replicating system evolved.
Replicating molecules became enclosed within a cell membrane.
The evolution of a membrane surrounding the genetic material provided two huge advantages: the products of the genetic material could be kept close by and the internal environment of this proto-cell could be different than the external environment. Cell membranes must have been so advantageous that these encased replicators quickly out-competed "naked" replicators. This breakthrough would have given rise to an organism much like a modern bacterium.
Some cells began to evolve modern metabolic processes and out-competed those with older forms of metabolism.
Up until this point, life had probably relied on RNA for most jobs (as described in Step 2 above). But everything changed when some cell or group of cells evolved to use different types of molecules for different functions: DNA (which is more stable than RNA) became the genetic material, proteins (which are often more efficient promoters of chemical reactions than RNA) became responsible for basic metabolic reactions in the cell, and RNA was demoted to the role of messenger, carrying information from the DNA to protein-building centers in the cell. Cells incorporating these innovations would have easily out-competed "old-fashioned" cells with RNA-based metabolisms, hailing the end of the RNA world.
Multicellularity evolved.
As early as two billion years ago, some cells stopped going their separate ways after replicating and evolved specialized functions. They gave rise to Earth's first lineage of multicellular organisms, such as the 1.2 billion year old fossilized red algae.
"3) What is your strongest scientific argument to support bacteria are the ancestors of Bill Nye?"
i've already answered this question previously on a seperate comment that u posted which i replied to, if u cant find it, fell free to ping me.
If we evolved from one of Adam's ribs, why are there still ribs?
I love ribs. Yummy
If man came from dust, why is there still dust?
If there is school for uneducated people, why are still stupid people walking around ?
Lauri Mäki-Kojola doesn’t science prove we come from dust
@@ezekielguy402 Does religion proves we come from god ?
he might as well explain a card trick to a clam.
nobody has anything on this brilliant man.
he reminds me of Carl Sagan.
humanity has exposed its' underbelly.
we are doomed by our own volition.
i just hope, next time, my DNA lands on the correct planet.
Your DNA? What, are you calling connected protein molecules some kind of soul?
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Your DNA is evidence for Creation! Sammy...here is some science for you....ready? Bacteria make bacteria, frogs make frogs....dogs make dogs and hog make hogs.....bacteria is NOT the ancestor of Bill Nye....it is called biochemistry and genetics.....biochemistry and genetics IS creation....evolutionism is a fairy tale for adults.
@@BillMorganChannel Jehovah is an evil fairytale character of what a real God should be, loving and caring, not vengeful and spiteful and vane. Why does science have to solve this pandemic problem, couldn't God just wish it away? A loving God would. A monster would leave it to do its job, kill people, and then train followers to hate on those that are actually doing something to save humanity. I don't have the answers for science, and I don't believe you have the answers for theism.
@@jerroldhewson3600 I'm Bill. Not God. I believe in God because I know the human eye, digestive system, and urination system is a design. Only an idiot or very hurt emotional person would deny they are designs.
Do I know the mind of God? No. But I read the Bible, which I believe teaches about God and the book teaches in this life you will have tribulation (John 16:33). You agree life has tribulation, but since there is tribulation, your image of a God does not fit that thus you deny there is a God.
Could you please explain to me how you think the human digestive system came to be?
Please call me at 714 898 8331
@@BillMorganChannel I don't deny the possibility of a God. I think its arrogant that each of us in our religious regions (western Christianity, middle eastern Muslim, far eastern Buddhist...) believe we have the one true God and everyone else is wrong. I tried reading the bible but the Jehovah guy was a monster and no where near worthy of worship. I then did some study into other religions and ancient history's and found discrepancies with the Judaic Christian claim. I don't believe the bible to be the work a true loving God or any historical accuracy of the character Jesus as a proposed messiah. I am open to, and actively seek truth.
Bill's right were pretty dumb, but is not our fault. The main reason I personally don't learn anything is because most of my teachers suck, here's a what a normal class looks like.
Teacher:*Spends the whole class yelling at us for no reason then gives us an homework assignment.*
Student:But you didn't teach us anything.
Teacher: To bad
Student: Okay... When is it due?
Teacher: Sometime in the future.
Student: But...
Teacher: Are you talking back to me?
Student:No.. i'm just!
Teacher: DETENTION!
In short hand, its not a good learning environment. The only thing I do in school is keep my head down and try not to get any attention from teachers. Their are a few really great teachers and I really enjoy there classes/subject but theirs only like 1 or 2.
Most scientist will not say the earth is only 6 to 12 thousand years old because it's a career ending move and it will only point to a creator. So most scientist are pressured to say other wise no matter how wrong it is.
Or, they won't say the Earth is only 6,000 years old because of the countless evidence proving that fact...
BUT WERE YOU THERE BILL?! Y'know there's this book that...
WHAT IS THIS MAGIC BOOK CALLED I MUST HAVE IT?
But the book is really old, and its full of falsified information, and it really defies logic in the most confound ways.
....is full of fiction, is completely illogical, and many dumbass people like you believe in. Were you there FREEDO? Did you witness the birth of jesus and the coming of the universe? The bible might say it, but I could write a book about a purple zebra that created everything, but just a book saying it happened doesn't make it true. the Bible is nothing but a bedtime story. ITs full of FICTION.
lol
Books are good with recording human history and interaction, No so good at recording events in which no one was there.
bill nye the science guy.
Thank you for your contribution
Bill nye the fascist guy
THOSE BOOSTER ROCKETS ON THE MOON LANDER WERE SO POWERFUL THEY NEVER STIRRED UP DUST AND LEFT NO CRATER,UNLESS YOU CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER VERSION OF THE FIRST MOON LANDING
There is a difference between earth's gravity and the moon's. Do you think that the moon is made out of sand? The technology needed to fake it did not exist yet. Why are writing about it here? You could put a little effort and try to research it yourself...
why research when we watched the show live,but i think this version was lost by nasa. by the way dust will take longer to settle on the moon...
OOPS CAPS LOCK ASSHOLE HIT A NERVE!!!!LOL NAME CALLING SUMS UP THE THINKING CAPABLITIES OF SOMEONE WHO CAN'T EXPLAIN SOMETHING,OR SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO LIE TO MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM SMARTER THAN THEY REALLY ARE.
“The electric internet, the computer machine that the kids use”
Brilliant
I believe in God, I believe that the Bible is just a bunch of old stories that help us find meaning in life. No way was is the world 6000 years old and we were not just out here by some guy. But surely it is more amazing that fact God can create the universe and 4.5 billion years go by and we have evolved from nothing. Science and religion are not enemies but two sides of the same story. Science explains life, religion gives it meaning.
Science can also give it meaning. We develop our rules of society because if we did not have them, we would be at an evolutionary disadvantage. Religion is unnecessary, unjustified, and not based in reality. It has great potential for harm as most of is is based on stuff that we already know isn't true. God is an unnecessary concept that stifles curiosity and only serves wishful thinking.
Nikki Seven Solos ^ "[religion] has great potential for harm as most of is is based on stuff that we already know isn't true"
"we already know isn't true"? need proof
Why does it have to be god? You're just engaging in wishful thinking and claiming a god created us and the universe but there is no evidence for this. In fact an argument can be made against someone creating everything. With your statement I could just replace god with anything I want such as fairys, ghouls or goblins. Just pick the myth you like to believe.
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^ No- the claim that god exists is what needs to be proven. To say that one is to prove that god doesn't exist is asking to prove a negative. If you work by that logic then prove to me that pink unicorns do not exist.
***** The sheer amount of things that any one religion is wrong about fill entire websites and books. It's hard to even know where to link you when you ask a question like this. But here is a good place to start if you are looking to educate yourself: talkorigins.org/
the supposition that believing that the world is 6,000 years old spells financial disaster and prevents success, including scientific success, is proven wrong by the many who do or did believe the world to be 6,000 years old who have been successful. For example, Sir Isaac Newton in the past and MIT professor Gerald Schroeder today.
+Joseph Kolakowski Exactly evolution has absolutely nothing to with modern innovation. It is pure desperation to say that it does. If evolution could contribute to scientific innovation, I could earn my master's degree in western history and go on to become a biologist! Please name one financial contribution that the knowledge of large scale evolution (monkeys to man, dinosaur to bird) has made. (I'm not talking about micro evolution like the mutation of bacteria or viruses, or the disappearance of a trait in a species, I'm talking change in kind: monkey to man, dinosaur to bird) And the financial contributions of Newton! Newtons laws helped put people on the moon and are the basis for classical physics. www.livescience.com/4965-isaac-newton-changed-world.html I'll bet Newtons contributions are in the billions!
+Tim H Don't pull the ignorance card on me. You know the huge contribution Isaac Newton has made.
Do you know what ignorance is?
Ignorance is believing that a code with 4 letters, that can create all of us today happened by chance! This code can be read forwards or backwards, each way producing a separate, useful protein.
Or believing in parallel universes which there is not a shred of evidence for. Why believe in parallel universes? because it is so improbable for life to exist, because if the force of gravity was off by about: .00000000000000000000000000000000000001%, then the earth and the sun wouldn't exist.
Ignorance is also believing that something could come from nothing. No science can prove anything about that We cannot simulate an environment of nothing: no space, no time. nothing cannot be unstable, it is nothing.
I could keep going.
It is either ignorance or a denial of the facts.
(The difference between micro evolution and macro evolution is that micro evolution is observed in species today. Macro evolution in not. I'm not skeptical of micro evolution, I am of of macro, I could say more on this if you want.)
+Jatz07 Evolutionary science doesn't have hardly anything to do with biochemistry. Go ahead and hope we evolve resistance to the virus.
+Jatz07 Sorry, let let me clarify: Large scale, evolution: dinosaurs to birds, monkey to man. We cannot use this to cure viruses. We can use observable mutations in a virus that cause it to be resistant. It just so happens that as this small scale evolution of viruses is observable, which is why I just so happen to believe it: you need to understand: viruses are extremely simple: a strand of DNA in a protein shell or a membrane bound structure. There are only a few traits to mutate and a few traits that are targeted by our medicines. We know this only because it is observable and not because we dug up a fossilized virus without resistance to a certain medicine that it is resistant to now.
+Jatz07 The majority of Christians do not believe in Genesis. They believe that God used evolution to complete his goal. They are wrong. Evolution is driven by death, in Genesis there was no death when God created everything. Either evolution and atheist is true or the bible is true, but they can't both be true at the same time, it's simple logic.
First of all the original question was not whether evolution was true or not, but whether it would be helpful in modern innovation. I do not think it is helpful. you do. lets stick to one track.
I believe that large scale evolution is false, but even if I believed it was true, I would not think that it could be helpful to cure viruses, it in nature is very unpredictable, and we would need to know tons of other factors that could have an effect on evolution, to accurately predict the mutations of viruses and such.
In fact, I see the excuse for evolution helping in innovation in science as desperation to make it relevant as a science. It is cool to learn about where we came from but if its from evolution you really can't follow through.
>The Earth is Really, Really Not 6,000 Years Old
I would be more impressed if those who do not believe that would show from the Bible itself that it doesn't even say that! But, these people who claim to have read the Bible, cover to cover many times, never seemed to let any of the words sink in! In Gen. 1:9 there's the words: "... let the dry land appear"--that means that the earth was ALREADY HERE at that time! I've only met one atheist who was honest enough to admit that he never saw that before.
The earth is flat and only 61 years old. Made of cheese too. Mostly parm, with hints of Gouda and cheddar.
I pray every day that the internet works and it does... so, you're welcome.
+TychoRVT
Try praying one day that the Internet won't work... ouch, it'll probably still work if nothing else changed :p
Life after death huh..? they wont call it death if there is life after it
tho even I still cant imagine that there is nothing after death
+Yukino Takada 雪乃 鷹だ Can you imagine that there is nothing before you were born?
Adam G that exactly what I try to imagine,damn existential crisis
Maybe, there is nothing one could imagine, maybe, there is no one. Maybe, death is not the end because it makes no sense to me neither. So, something like a rebirth or reincarnation could happen.
nadjim73 I don't think it's that confusing once you realize you are the product of your brain. Your brain's neurons firing is what makes you, you. After death, brain activity ceases. Much like turning off a computer, except since we're biological once that happens organs deteriorate quickly.
+Adam G You said: I don't think it's that confusing once you realize you are the product of your brain. Your brain's neurons firing is what makes you, you. After death, brain activity ceases. Much like turning off a computer,
Our physical bodies die, but our spirits live on. The question is where will you live in eternity.
Taking advantage of technology borne of innovation and science and then claiming the world is 6,000 years old is just nuts and a serious contradiction .
How is he so old??? I remember like it was just yesterday...
Thank you yet again Bill Nye for speaking the truth.
Man crush aside, he is the science guy forever.
THEN HE GOES AND SAYS BOYS CAN BE GIRLS AND GIRLS CAN BE BOYS......THEY CAN PRETEND BUT CANT ACTUALLY BE
@@dusteedawg2915 its cuz hes a bozo...people like him cuz they grew up watching him but in all reality, hes a nobody
I wonder why we can't get someone who is truly smart and honest for pesident . I would take a bill nye all day
Because intelligent informed people are not the majority in this country, which is not by far the best educated in the world despite being one of the richest. Which is of course troubling
Barack Obama outstanding Mr President!
+Jeffery Downs Personally I don't think it would be a good idea to have scientists and engineers as politicians (I myself am a computer engineer). You actually do need some education to be an effective politician. What we do need (and are sorely lacking right now) are leaders who are actually willing to listen to scientists and engineers.
Jeffery Downs bill nye the fascist guy ? That's who he is now days
This is how Dr Strange look like when he is old.
2:09 RIGHT because being HONEST about life gives you a FIRM foundation to begin, and a congruent discernment of choices... Standing on a lie obscures your path, because NONE of the choices are congruent with the lie.....
I need to meet this man....this is my childhood hero. This is the man who made me want to pursue science. Thank you Bill.
Nye the science guy
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
Victor Frankenstein made me want to pursue science. He "tampered in God's domain" and broke the rules. I've always liked breaking rules too. Because most of the rules were written by idiots. Geeks like Bill Nye are laughable because he's a leftist tool and the Left wants everyone to follow rules, not break them. They just want to replace the existing rules with their own rules.
I wonder what Bill Nye's take on the biological definition of a woman is? I wonder what Bill Nye's take on the Plannedemic is? I wonder how many unsafe and improperly trial-tested booster shots he's had so far? Guys like Nye are political, and Science is not political. Science is Science. If Nye were truly unbiased and scientific he'd go after Islam (a FAR more dangerous religion) with the same zeal he goes after Christianity.
Saw you in the picture with Obama.
Well I've typed this post a few times now. It's hard not to come off condensing. So I won't bore you with what I do and the people I deal with everyday, but I will say thank you. Please keep being a voice of reason and of science.
Is a painting evidence of a painter?
Is a building evidence of a builder?
Then creation is evidence of a creator.
Where does conscienceness come from? God says He created it.
Did evolution create male and female? I thought the process of evolution was to be more efficient, not less efficient. So why did we start as asexual beings and then turn into men and women? And please tell me where at in the evolution process men turned into women or vice versa. And speaking of that. Show me ONE time that an animal KIND turned into a different kind. Speciation is 100% a thing and it is evolutionary. No doubt. But a bird does not turn into a cat.
And that is all based on the premise that NOTHING created everything. I always find it interesting that the ones that claim to believe in science over God believe the scientific impossibility that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. . . Interesting 🤔
Hey Bill I was wondering if you could tell me how old the Earth is I told my friend it was 4 billion years or and they said 7 billion
Reading some of the comments from the science-illiterate here, I can easily see that Bill Nye makes an important point about creationists perpetuating ignorance.
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Bill Nye has never used an honest scientific fact while promoting his RELIGION of evolutionism. He has never given an explanation as to how any evolutionary change could be possible and never any example of evolution ever occurring. Evolutionism has not use in science but has held back the study of science. The most qualiflied scientists of the world are the Creation cientists.
This is My favourite corner of the internet
You mean the electric internet, the computer machine that the kids use?
@@jerroldhewson3600 yes
I’ve lived through some decades of time and have seen some amazing innovations in technology and medicine. But still one of the most baffling things, as I sit here and think back on all I’ve experienced, is that I know people that think evolution is not real and that believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Inexplicable to me.
Brainwashing from young age is the answer.
If you look into how they use C14 as the main method to test radio-carbon dating its not a billions years either
Yeah radioactive can only last for milieniums no millions or billions years. Especially nobody touches the sediments for millions buried underground then the radioactivity should be gone by now.
Also Dino tissues have been discovered and the tissues can’t last millions of years either.
Carbon 14 is their bible.
Well the lack of proof is one thing there's actual proof the earth is just 6000 years old
@@YankeeDoodle2
Really? So could you please provide your best evidence of that?
Bill Nye used to be my childhood but now look at him he is so worldly now
He has a Black Belt in being patient and forever polite in dealing with the CZcams set of religious buffoons (6,000 year old universe and earth).