I find, for me, the best way to cross fast water is with your back to the current and side step. It's pretty stable, and if the current takes your legs out from under you, you just sit down and pop back up.
After years of setting tubeless tires with a floor pump, your massive excitement about the TubiBooster is so relatable lmao Just got an Airshot (sameish thing) and it was like an angel coming down to set my beads for me.
For real D. When me and my bud watched this tonight we were both shocked by that. You look rad as heck. We hope to keep your fresh appearance through burrito facades and regular riding! Love from ATL
What more can be said thank thank you for always taking us along on your rides!? You are my nightime entertainment and motivation for the next days ride. Did a Portland rain ride today in Ontario, Canadeh
If looking at FS, I'd skew towards newer XC bikes in the search for the simple reason that they're more likely to fit 2 bottles in the front triangle. Most MTBs don't do that, and for the big loops you like to do (and we like to watch), that carrying capacity is a big factor. But another thing you could try is flat bars on the Bombtrack. I find that the position on my gravel bike is the thing that really holds me back on rougher terrain. I have a rigid Jones MTB as well, and the flat bar allows me to be further back to make steep/technical descents much safer.
@@EverythingsBeenDone Have you ever tried to ride offroad fixed gear? Say gravel/mtb routes. I'm doing just that. It's killer! In fact I'm just building a new 650b fixed gear masochist machine, able to fit some bigger rubber. Got a little tired of 35 mm tyres :p
I've had a Felt XC bike for 8 years, really put it through its paces and it's been flawless. You inspired me to get a Wilier so if you get a Felt we've come full circle
I cheered out loud when you said you were getting an XC bike. Love the channel and looking forward to the new world of content a "proper" bike will open up.
Love the video, love the edit, that volcano liking your 👂 was magical, good job for the bridge crossing. Thanks to you i’m going to bed with a big smile Thanks for the great videos
Yep under biking is fun for a bit and when that bit is most of the time then the mountain bike is the order of the day. Basically what you said in the video but worded differently. Take it easy.
Definitely some gnarly terrain there. I consider myself a roadie, but watching your channel is definitely inspiring me to purchase a trail bike........if the wife allows it :) Keep on keeping on man!!!
Santa Cruz Blur is great. VPP suspension instead of single pivot, threaded bottom bracket, well balanced geometry. New specialized epic looks cool. But it's more expensive than Santa and can have Brain issues.
I hope your Volcano Ear is sounding fine today... I've ridden all that on a proper MTB, and it was still super puckery in many spots. You are a proper lunatic my dude!!! Happy Doug survived the Stick Up (poor shorts tho). Hugs, Adam
had 15 river crossing in Iceland kinda same force in the river but 2-3 times deeper.... had to walk 4 times with most rivers 3 times to get bags over 1 with my bike on the back :) Park rangers warned me not to get the bearings in the water because of the volcanic sand/gravel in the river washes the grease out of the bearings. was a fun bikepacking holiday :D
Been to gravel and back again to XC bike because of finding myself under biked on rides. There is a tasty crop on new XC bikes out there - hardtail I would look at the new BMC two stroke or for a Dually the YT Izzo would be a good choices. Both would look amazing with a custom paint job on them.
I use a similar tire setup in the winter in Edmonton Alberta, for ice and snow, because I'm much too cheap for studded tires. Wtb vigilante 2.3 rear and verdict 2.5 front.
I have been following your channel for some time and I always wonder why not get a FS bike with 29” wheels and do everything a lot easier. Finally it got to the point. Enjoy yr rides and thanx for the videos
I know this may sound crazy but just add cross-top breaks. It will allow you to keep your weight back and off the front. My first MTB had bars barely wider than my gravel/cx bike. I ride all the same routes i do on my FS bike (just not as fast DH). I've had both mechanical and hydraulic and both work great. Running GRX now. $50-130 upgrade will save you finding a new bike 🤙
Started off this video thinking in my head "Man... at this point, Dustin should probably just get a XC bike".... Glad you came to the same conclusion!! fwiw, I've been a fan of my Kona Big Honzo. It's not exactly XC, but definitely shreds.
Awesome ride, and I agree a XC or trail bike would be much better for those trails. I think a modern hardtail with a 130mm fork and lots of clearance for 29x2.6” or 27.5x2.8” tires. Just my thoughts
I commend you for going down Pumice Mt. on a drop bar bike. ALSO you didn't quite do the loop right, and it is easy to miss if you haven't done the loop with someone in the know, but instead of the water crossing at the end where the bridge is washed out their is a trail maybe a quarter mile before the water crossing and it is very easy to miss but it goes right up Ape Canyon to the Lahar parking area and it is a much nicer climb compared to the gravel road you take after crossing the raging creek by the broken bridge. ALSO give a shout out to the NWTA volunteers that keep that epic ride, rideable.
It was mentioned the other week but take a look at IBIS, Lightspeed & Lynskey xc bikes are worth a look. Try to aim for something can do 2.6 in either 27.5 or 29 format. Look for a HTA of around be around 68.5* when adjusted for sag(usually hta are listed as not adjusted for sag), cause a sus fork technically can make the bike slacker, but once the fork is sagging(rider weight & such) & compressing(when riding) it could make the bike less slack or the same as the rigid fork option. I been reading up about geo as I am thinking about putting a sus fork on my Bombtrack Beyond+. Side note looking at the geo of the Bombtrack Hook EXT-C & Hook ADV(the one that comes from factory with an MRP Fork) they both have similar trail so handling shouldn't be that much different. Good luck!
I've gone full rigid 29+ with 3" chupacabra or whatever the kids call them these days. I ride with full suspension XC bikes without issue. If I were to get an XC bike it might be a Fat Chance 29+ because I'm a huge fan of Chris and his neeto stuff. Oh, and I'm just riding my 907 fatbike with the 29+ and have sold my full suspension XC bike. (Still have my 96 Bontrager cross bike tho)
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Back in the day my XC MTB had 2.1 fire xc tyres, many MTBs at the time had this size tyres, now my gravel bike has 2.0 tyres. Probably due to frame shape and lack of suspension forks that tyres.
Anything with 100-120mm front and 100mm rear.. or the Trek Supercaliber with just 60mm in the back👌 ps. Bonus heads up: sweet spot for off mtb handlebar is 750mm ✌my 2c
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Killer terrain. It's the geometry that makes it under biked.
I feel it!
@@EverythingsBeenDone yeah that bombtrack has scary low stack for that kind of stuff
I'm the same age as Doug and old enough to know when to ride flatbars.
Im slowly learning!
DK you’ll get learned real good by Doug’s age. 😬
I find, for me, the best way to cross fast water is with your back to the current and side step. It's pretty stable, and if the current takes your legs out from under you, you just sit down and pop back up.
This is a great tip! Thank you.
That is a great tip. I was waiting for the smartass punchline but all I got was great advice! Thx.
The Ritchey you already have with a suspension fork could do the job nicely
Dude!! Throw a 100mm suspension fork on the p29
That would make a very capable hardtail mtb adventure sled.
As geologist with university degree I'm approving this video (especially that part when you met volano personally).
Haha haha
Now we’ve got history together.
After years of setting tubeless tires with a floor pump, your massive excitement about the TubiBooster is so relatable lmao
Just got an Airshot (sameish thing) and it was like an angel coming down to set my beads for me.
Feels so since to have things work sometimes...LOL its the little-ish things!
I loved how you keep it real, including the crashes and all. Keep on filming, brother!
Best thing about an xc hardtail is they are brilliant with drop bars , great video Dustin love your work 👍👍👍
Gnarly. Ordered a SLOW AF sticker last week to go with my SLOW AF t-shirt. I get so many smiles when I wear that shirt. ☮
I'm always ready for a new vid! Thanks so much for these.
You are so welcome!
2021 Cannondale Scalpel has been very very good bike for all trails and terrain that I ride in SoCal. It's the best 1 bike quiver.
40? For real? But vloggin like you're in your early 30s.
Wait till Im in my 70's ;)
black don't crack
40 is the new 30
For real D. When me and my bud watched this tonight we were both shocked by that. You look rad as heck. We hope to keep your fresh appearance through burrito facades and regular riding! Love from ATL
@@EverythingsBeenDone 30 more years of subscription? Challenge accepted!
Stumbled upon this vid by accident. Tremendous stuff really enjoyed it all, the scenery, the bikes, the music, the editing. Great. (Subscribed).
My Man! So stoked you found your way here! WELCOME.
That water crossing was properly sketchy! Gonna need those stickers too.
Best training advice ever... You gotta push. But don't over push.
"Cries in flat Ontario Canadian Terrain". Man, that's some nice view!
Wish you were here!
But us Ontarians laughed at you guys being cold in -5c. Lol. Jk. 🤣
What more can be said thank thank you for always taking us along on your rides!? You are my nightime entertainment and motivation for the next days ride. Did a Portland rain ride today in Ontario, Canadeh
Wow, thank you!
Dustin: "I'm 40"
Me: "Bull fucking shit"
lol thanks for always showing us your adventures bro.
Get yourself Cannondale F-Si. I`ve ridden it in the Carpathian mountains in Europe and it`s the best experience I`ve ever had.
You're so lucky to have so much beautiful open country around you man!!
Another great edit 🤠
It's all on fire a bit now tho. Need rain soon
“I definitely have volcano in my ear”. 😂😂
There’s comfort in knowing that with those tires your bike becomes a flotation device 👍
True that! LMAO!!
If looking at FS, I'd skew towards newer XC bikes in the search for the simple reason that they're more likely to fit 2 bottles in the front triangle. Most MTBs don't do that, and for the big loops you like to do (and we like to watch), that carrying capacity is a big factor.
But another thing you could try is flat bars on the Bombtrack. I find that the position on my gravel bike is the thing that really holds me back on rougher terrain. I have a rigid Jones MTB as well, and the flat bar allows me to be further back to make steep/technical descents much safer.
Seriously, this is one of the coolest channels on YT. Mad man! :)
Wow, thanks! YOU RULE!
@@EverythingsBeenDone Have you ever tried to ride offroad fixed gear? Say gravel/mtb routes. I'm doing just that. It's killer! In fact I'm just building a new 650b fixed gear masochist machine, able to fit some bigger rubber. Got a little tired of 35 mm tyres :p
I've had a Felt XC bike for 8 years, really put it through its paces and it's been flawless. You inspired me to get a Wilier so if you get a Felt we've come full circle
Your frame looks badass with that gnarly big rubber on it.
Not sure how much of your intent here was making Doug look like a badass, but you were super successful at that at the very least
There some crazy crashes out there, but your kind in this video are by far the best! 😀
Laugh it off, laugh it off.....
Luckily nothing was hurt!
I cheered out loud when you said you were getting an XC bike. Love the channel and looking forward to the new world of content a "proper" bike will open up.
My guy asked what bike, I asked for Bombtrack. What a boss. Keep shreddin Dklein. Love you.
I always get so stoke on your videos. LOVE the BOMBTRACK. That steed looks so freaking AWESOME.
I was thinkin' at the beginning......."it's nearly a MTB with drop bars" Sic lookin' rig!
Same here
I love the metric. Thank you!
Old dudes crush hard! Man, those tires can shred.
Ity always makes me happy when the Bombtrack comes out. Especially when its in such a stunning location too!
Scott Spark is what you need brother man
Gravel Bikes are just too cool for their own good.
Sometimes you need a Mountain Bike.
NINER AIR 9. I've been beyond happy with mine the six years I've had it. Definitely worth investigating.
I miss premier, but now I watch, like and comment. If You don’t do this same You are not a player.
Love it!!
So creative Dustin. My favorite video yet
Wow, thanks!
Love the video, love the edit, that volcano liking your 👂 was magical, good job for the bridge crossing.
Thanks to you i’m going to bed with a big smile
Thanks for the great videos
Woah! That ride looked totally gnarly! 😬
Yep under biking is fun for a bit and when that bit is most of the time then the mountain bike is the order of the day. Basically what you said in the video but worded differently. Take it easy.
oh so much fun!that does it!---- movin back to Ore. should have never left!! great photography Dk.
Hell yeah. I did order a 1wd sticker for my new bike. Fun video man i always look forward to your new vid each week
One of the all time great loop rides in this area!!!
I'm loving the Marin Pine Mountain 2 right now. It's not a XC bike, it's a trail bike, but all the mounts are amazing and steel is real ;).
Oh fuck, I used to have the Marin PM, and is was so heavy I couldn`t stand it any more. I sold it and bought carbon Cannondale F-Si, and I`m happy.
Maybe the ibis would have been a better choice. But the bomb track looks cool with the meats on it.
10000% ibis would have been better
If you're considering XC bikes, Niner, sure and also look at Cannondale - their lefty forks are pretty rad.
2021 specialized epic evo, Dustin. Nuff said. Lovin your style and these awesome routes.
Santa Cruz is my favorite, just feels good on the bike.
Definitely some gnarly terrain there. I consider myself a roadie, but watching your channel is definitely inspiring me to purchase a trail bike........if the wife allows it :) Keep on keeping on man!!!
Lot of joy/stoke in this video. I felt it!
Maybe add a 100mm fork on your Ritchey? That would make a sweet XC bike! I really dig your ritchey 😁
Fezzari Signal Peak, Specialized Epic Evo, Salsa Spearfish or Cannondale Scalpel SE. A set of xc bikes built to have a bit of fun.
DREAM List right there!
Santa Cruz Blur is great. VPP suspension instead of single pivot, threaded bottom bracket, well balanced geometry.
New specialized epic looks cool. But it's more expensive than Santa and can have Brain issues.
Guerilla gravity trail pistol. Made in Colorado. They need your help with graphics, too.
I hope your Volcano Ear is sounding fine today...
I've ridden all that on a proper MTB, and it was still super puckery in many spots. You are a proper lunatic my dude!!!
Happy Doug survived the Stick Up (poor shorts tho).
Hugs, Adam
had 15 river crossing in Iceland kinda same force in the river but 2-3 times deeper.... had to walk 4 times with most rivers 3 times to get bags over 1 with my bike on the back :) Park rangers warned me not to get the bearings in the water because of the volcanic sand/gravel in the river washes the grease out of the bearings.
was a fun bikepacking holiday :D
I know what this channel REALLY needs.....
More WINSTON !!!
Oh my goodness, you missed the cutoff climb before the second crossing. An old logging road, steady climb in the shade. Too bad.
One of the best videos you've done
Been to gravel and back again to XC bike because of finding myself under biked on rides.
There is a tasty crop on new XC bikes out there - hardtail I would look at the new BMC two stroke or for a Dually the YT Izzo would be a good choices. Both would look amazing with a custom paint job on them.
I ride a Scott 970 XC hardtail. Great bike for what you did. A bit heavy but gets it done.
Specialized Epic or Trek Supercaliber are the ultimative XC weapons!
That epic is so cool!
Trek Stache! Or any mid fat 29er you can get your hands on!....I got a Stache and it's awesome.
I use a similar tire setup in the winter in Edmonton Alberta, for ice and snow, because I'm much too cheap for studded tires. Wtb vigilante 2.3 rear and verdict 2.5 front.
I definitely have volcano in my ear.
LOL!!
As a 30 something, finding out you're 40 gives me such fucking hope for my future. Keep on being rad!
Logic says to only ride a XC MTB on those tracks, or , face the consquences ....... you gave it a good crack though, LOL
I’ve played all my cards. 🤷🏻♂️
Loving these Premier Thursday’s DK!
Matt Reyes premier this morning, Dustin Kline in the afternoon, ride at 5! It’s Fn Bike Thursday 👍🏾
Yeah matts video was nuts
And yesterday Lucas Brunelles skitch madness vid mamamia
Honored to be a part of the equation!!
IT was SO PRO!
Imdeeznutz Right?!
I have been following your channel for some time and I always wonder why not get a FS bike with 29” wheels and do everything a lot easier. Finally it got to the point. Enjoy yr rides and thanx for the videos
What about the Ritchey? That deserves a suspension :D
I know this may sound crazy but just add cross-top breaks. It will allow you to keep your weight back and off the front. My first MTB had bars barely wider than my gravel/cx bike. I ride all the same routes i do on my FS bike (just not as fast DH). I've had both mechanical and hydraulic and both work great. Running GRX now. $50-130 upgrade will save you finding a new bike 🤙
Be carefull we dont want you to be injured and not watching any vids you gonna upload TC! 😉
That’s what the XC bike will help prevent....I hope! 🤔
Started off this video thinking in my head "Man... at this point, Dustin should probably just get a XC bike".... Glad you came to the same conclusion!! fwiw, I've been a fan of my Kona Big Honzo. It's not exactly XC, but definitely shreds.
Yeah Doug's insane dude. So strong.
This guy makes me feel less guilty about putting mtb tyres on my gravel bike
This guy backs your decision 💯
Awesome ride, and I agree a XC or trail bike would be much better for those trails. I think a modern hardtail with a 130mm fork and lots of clearance for 29x2.6” or 27.5x2.8” tires. Just my thoughts
I commend you for going down Pumice Mt. on a drop bar bike. ALSO you didn't quite do the loop right, and it is easy to miss if you haven't done the loop with someone in the know, but instead of the water crossing at the end where the bridge is washed out their is a trail maybe a quarter mile before the water crossing and it is very easy to miss but it goes right up Ape Canyon to the Lahar parking area and it is a much nicer climb compared to the gravel road you take after crossing the raging creek by the broken bridge. ALSO give a shout out to the NWTA volunteers that keep that epic ride, rideable.
DK mantra “Under biked but not overbaked”
It was mentioned the other week but take a look at IBIS, Lightspeed & Lynskey xc bikes are worth a look. Try to aim for something can do 2.6 in either 27.5 or 29 format. Look for a HTA of around be around 68.5* when adjusted for sag(usually hta are listed as not adjusted for sag), cause a sus fork technically can make the bike slacker, but once the fork is sagging(rider weight & such) & compressing(when riding) it could make the bike less slack or the same as the rigid fork option. I been reading up about geo as I am thinking about putting a sus fork on my Bombtrack Beyond+. Side note looking at the geo of the Bombtrack Hook EXT-C & Hook ADV(the one that comes from factory with an MRP Fork) they both have similar trail so handling shouldn't be that much different. Good luck!
Speclized Epic Evo or Trek Top Fuel, but there are so many more out there. 🤷🏻
I've gone full rigid 29+ with 3" chupacabra or whatever the kids call them these days. I ride with full suspension XC bikes without issue. If I were to get an XC bike it might be a Fat Chance 29+ because I'm a huge fan of Chris and his neeto stuff. Oh, and I'm just riding my 907 fatbike with the 29+ and have sold my full suspension XC bike. (Still have my 96 Bontrager cross bike tho)
Hands Down, REEB - Beer Bike Backwards - Damn Solid Group Of Brewers And Riders - And If You Roll This Way, You Gotta Place To Stay - Plenty Of Double IPA
Cheers
solid advice from Doug. Would love to join you next time you do this
Grown men giggling. Always good.
Lots of that when you hang out with me..LOL
Looks like it’s about time you build up a steel hard tail 29er with some nice wide flat bars. A breadwinner Goodwater perhaps?
Check out Sonder bikes Broken Road. UK company but they ship to the states. I think that model would suit the off-road routes you’re starting to ride.
I don't know anyone, but I know I just picked up a Canyon Lux and it is fantastic.
Just get a Krampus, even without a suss fork, it rolls over anything.
Back in the day my XC MTB had 2.1 fire xc tyres, many MTBs at the time had this size tyres, now my gravel bike has 2.0 tyres.
Probably due to frame shape and lack of suspension forks that tyres.
Still a light bike by MTB standards. Now I want one.
Who's got a lead on a XC Bike?
Spesh Epic for miles of smiles
Guerilla gravity trail pistol. Made in Colorado. They need your help with the visuals.
Maybe you can try Bombtrack
Scott Scale for what you just did in this video.
Anything with 100-120mm front and 100mm rear.. or the Trek Supercaliber with just 60mm in the back👌 ps. Bonus heads up: sweet spot for off mtb handlebar is 750mm ✌my 2c
‘Look at the size of this thing” #ThatsWhatSheSaid
A lot of rubber on that one!
Great work.
Great haircut.
Raucous dude !
That was fun! Thanks Dustin....
Epic ride! 👌🏁🏁
Plaaaayer!