Who Ya Gonna Call? Ghost Ice Systems
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2021
- HAPPY MONDAY! Today I test out the Ghost Ice clear Ice System. This Ice system claims to make 48 clear blocks of Ice for old fashioneds with Tap water and we were really keen to try it out. The System was developed by Los Angeles bartender Tony Gonzales (@livingonthebrim on Instagram). Hope ya'll enjoy the video!
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I made an "at-home" version of this with a tiny Igloo cooler, a couple silicone ice molds with small holes punched in the bottom, and two sticks to suspend the molds at water level. Cost about $30 and makes 8 perfect cubes every two days.
Was literally just thinking this. So easy to make and you can do it with a cheap styrofoam cooler. They charge $300 for some silicone molds lol
Hell yeah 👍 me too. 2 Tovolo King cube mold and the Camper English, Coleman cooler.
@@jethrobodinetull 2 Tovolo's fit perfectly in the mini cooler?
@@richard_lindsay you have to stretch the cooler sides. It's not perfect, but good enough for the girls I go with.
I always wanted a clear ice block freezing system! a clear ice block freezing system would be perfect for my home bar. Might get a clear ice block freezing system.
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I can see how this would be so handy for a Bar or restaurant. However the cooler is to big for my freezer great review for this.
Thanks for the review! Not something I need at home but always love to see this stuff
Cool, a block freezing ice system clear 😁.
Now I just need it to be 1/8th the size, come with a fitting cooler box included and not cost almost as much as a PS5 XD
If they make a half size version I’d be in
100%. This strikes me as something that they could probably easily adapt their current design to a smaller version, more fit for home use, then scale up production and drop the price to around $60-100. I would definitely be interested. Not paying $300 for something that will be a pain to fit in my garage freezer though. Thankfully, their website FAQ says they are working on a prototype for home use.
See my comment with instructions for making a home-size version.
I really want a scaled down version of this I could pop in my home fridge.
Looks like a great product. It's probably best suited for use with a walk-in freezer
Couldn't help but laugh when you were holding up the piece of ice for Marius. The look was funny as he'll.
Good instructional vid though.
I would totally buy such an insert for my Fliplid at home...
Punch a few holes in the bottom of each well of one of these silicone ice trays or similar (lids off).
Samuelworld Ice Cube Tray Large Size Silicone Flexible 8 Cavity Ice Maker
or
W&P Tray Extra Large Cube, Single, Charcoal
or similar
Suspend them in a Coleman FlipLid Personal Cooler, 5 Quarts with its lid off, about 3 inches from the bottom.
I bend a coat hanger into a bridge shape to put the Samuelworld tray on, while the W&P tray sits on the lip of the cooler by itself. Ice freezes in about 24 hours.
I've been doing directional freezing in my tiny apartment for a few months now, but the last few times I would get bubbles... when you said make sure your freezer's not too cold - I can't believe I didn't think about that. I remembered I ignorantly upped the cold cause I was getting impatient.
Hopefully in the future they'll create a smaller version (8 cubes?) for home bars!
They have small 4 cube systems for 40$ on Amazon. You can get two of those and not have to buy a cooler. It's actually cheaper. I have one of the clear ice 4 cube trays and I do the Igloo Cooler for doing blocks. I like having both of those for the home bar. :)
@@calebboudreaux3258 name of that product?
I'm just glad the name for this system was clear as ice.
i got so excited for a new ice video. the tumbnail of the ice looks incredible. but then got sad that i have to open my own bar to get this going haha. Amazing content though, looks super cool for bar owners to save on time and uppen the aesthetics of their drinks!
There are plenty of great products for home use. I use the Sunset Crystal Clear Ice Mould for spheres. They are almost perfectly clear and by the time you've poured a drink over it, it is perfectly clear and perfectly spherical. Very compact system, large spheres - drawback is it only makes 2 at a time but it's only like 30USD. Tons of options out there for home use.
I'm enjoying my ClearlyFrozen system. It's basically a smaller version of what you're using. It makes 10 2" cubes.
"The Ghost Ice System makes clear ice blocks." I mean, it sounds like a neat idea, but I don't know that I care enough about clear ice to buy this and a cooler to basically break just for it. Oh, and a freezer, because I don't own one that I can stick a bloody cooler in.
The 24 clock sound was brilliant haha
"For the cocktail enthusiast at home, it's not so practical". Sir, you underestimate me.
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Great review as always. Would one of those trays fit into a 5 quart cooler? Or also could they be cut so they would fit into a 5 quart cooler? Think it might be great to get this and share the cost with a friend if indeed one of the trays were fit into a 5 quart cooler.
I have a Clearly Frozen tray system. I don't get 100% clear ice, but by freezer is also not on the lowest setting...which I might try now. Might be the best home bar best tip.
Thanks for the review, I'm in! Please post a link for a chest freezer compatible with this specific cooler. Been searching but interior measurements don't seem to be listed anywhere by manufacturers. Thanks!!
Man if they had like a half system, I would legit think about picking one of these up. I have a pretty big mostly empty deep freeze in my garage and would love something like this. But that 48 cube one is freaking huge.
They have now. It is actually a quarter system, because it only freezes 12.
Interesting that the cooler doesn't need to be filled with water. I've seen people use similar devices on smaller coolers suggest that's important. Also cool to see that the individual blocks are completely clear! Some people claim that the little bit of non-clarity at the end is inevitable.
Awesome. Can’t wait til they develop a viable “at home” option. I’ve put off the whole clear ice thing because the time and effort just isn’t worth it. This could change things for sure!
It is out and can be pre ordered
I have a deep freeze at home and would love this
Hopefully they make one for the home consumer (for the 5quart cooler).
They do have a couple of similar, but smaller, systems on amazon for around $35. They’re great for home use.
@4:00. You could also stretch out the cooler over the course of a few days by filling it and freezing/unfreezing every 12 hours or so (in case you physically can’t do the stretching shown here)
Are you planning on testing the Wintersmiths Phantom Ice Maker? Makes a bunch of different forms of clear ice and is suitable for home bar sized freezers.
I love wintersmiths
Gonna try the home versions on Amazon? I found at least one home version of this, that seemed to be essentially the same thing just much smaller.
love the clear ice, but too big for my freezer. wife would not be happy. lol
Can you try a Berenburg Cocktail? For example a Beco!
I believe he managed to touch every piece of ice with his forearm. So much for impurities....
Clear ice tray, case closed
I always get one that way taller than the mould. I use Clearly Frozen moulds that makes 10 5 in cubes.
So the reason they made this one is because you can already buy the smaller home molds on Amazon this is for a business model. I have developed my own method that is the same as a clinebell ice machine just in a cooler unit . My blocks are 8" thick and wide by 14" of sold completely clear ice that I put in my deep freezer to make. I get 96 2" cubes out of each block. And I can make 2 blocks at one time in my freezer. It only costs me 30 dollars per unit.
I would be interested in kit that made 24 blocks using only one tray and a smaller cooler. I would spend $150 for my home bar.
It seemed you guys were frustrated at each other towards the end no? 😆
I dream of one-day owning a freezer large enough! But hey it's almost winter and norther Ontario gets cold!
What's the best for at home with a not so huge refrigerator?
Couldn't you just buy two silicone ice block molds, poke holes in one and stack them? That way you get one mold of clear and one of cloudy? It would be a lot cheaper, and more practical for home use.
Not really, the cooler is needed to insulate the sides so the cold can only hit the top of the water and freeze downwards. It would be better to look for a cooler that fits in your freezer then a silicon mold that fits inside THAT cooler
I've been playing with silicone molds in a little Igloo freezing system. So far I have to float them (blowing bubbles with a straw under cube molds whose open faces are facing downwards) or find some way for the molds to be kept near the top where the clear ice forms. They hold up extremely well and really reduce the time because I don't have to chisel / cut the ice.
Still, I need a better way of keeping the off the shelf ice molds suspended near the top of the lidless Igloo cooler. Any ideas?
Maybe blocks on the corners?
Great review. I see the sellers website recommends buying 2 sets. How many cubes of clear ice will a bar go through on an average night? Would there be some on the rocks cocktails that wouldn't use clear ice?
It really depends on how popular the bar is and how freely they use their clear ice. Some high end bars use clear ice for everything, shaking, crushed ice, etc. Others only use it for serving clear cocktails on a rock -- Negroni, Old-fashioned, that kind of thing. This company's website gives a projection of cost savings assuming 30 clear cubes used per day. That seems pretty conservative for me, but I guess a smaller venue that only uses the clear cubes for very specific drinks could maybe land around there. A busier bar that uses thee cubes more freely could go through a LOT more.
Can you please tell us what was the temperature of your freezer. Thank you
Wonder if they had issues scaling this down or if they just didn’t think the economics would work out targeting home use? 12 cubes would be more than enough for a home bar, but maybe the price of manufacture isn’t much lower (I’m sure it’s much more than 1/4 the price for 1/4 the ice)
they are making smaller home version. This was intended for bat that use a lot of ice
Would love to know any similar product for sale in the UK (that works with a cooler that's regularly available in the UK too)
Any thoughts on cleaning silicone ice molds. I love in an area where the water is very “hard.” After a few use with filtered tap water, a residue forms, and the ice has a slightly off smell.
I mean you should absolutely clean the molds. Hot water and soap is best. If your water is super hard maybe get a filter that attaches to the faucet?
@@freepour I use a faucet filter, but they still get the residue. Your reply makes me think I should get a new mold and experiment with bottled water to see if any change. Cheers!
I feel you missed the opportunity to have Marius narrate the 'One Eternity Later'.
spheres are better than cubes because of less surface area and they melt even slower. Plus spheres look cooler and yes the pun is intended with COOL
If I'm understanding it correctly, the cube trays have holes in the bottom and all the water goes right through them until the cooler is filled first. I admire the concept, but it seems wasteful to fill an entire cooler for 48 ice cubes, and then you have to wait for the cooler to thaw out before using it again.
Like Leandro said, probably good for a bar or restaurant.
That is how most of those system work. They need to push all the impurities and air bubbles down and out the mold so the top can be totally clear. So it is needed. Normally what I will do is take any ice on the bottom of my cooler(not this one) and chop it up for shaking/stirring drinks.
Yeah, reaffirming what the other response said: You *need* to "waste" around 1/3 or more of the water to get the clear ice. The directional freezing method (exposing only the top of the water to the full power of the freezer and letting the ice freeze downward) forces inert gas, minerals, and other impurities to the bottom of the cooler where it is the last part of the water to begin to freeze. Every home use clear ice product/method employs the same principles. The only other alternative is something like a Clinebell, which uses motion and agitation to separate the impurities. But those cost thousands of dollars and are squarely designed for industrial use.
IMO, the loss of a few quarts of water is a pretty fair sacrifice for the quality and yield on this product. I just wish they will make a cheaper, smaller version better suited for home use.
I was so excited. But, yeah, not really practical for home use, and also honestly, not for people who don't have good arm strength. I have the regular non-clear silicone molds, and it is pita getting a ice out of those things. I do wonder if my freezer wasn't set to 0°F if it would be easier to remove them, but I'm not going to do that because that's my home freezer.
A system for making completely clear ice. Incidentally, at home if you have no freezer space you can make clear ice with an insulated coffee cup. I made videos showing how easy it is.
You know I don't mind a video where you test a gadget with a little more thought put into it before filming. Ideally maybe there would be first impressions and also like a week of testing to put things through the ringer. Really figure out if a gadget can perform or not cause if it can't even with troubleshooting then it really isn't work buying.
Also Would love a home use version of this.
And how you can keep the ready ice cubes for a long time use?
Just stick em in a gallon zip lock and put them in the freezer
they should make one for the Coleman FlipLid 5 Quart Cooler.
It's in the works
if you are breaking the insulation of the cooler then couldn't you just find a tote that these would fit in? I guess I am asking is the fact that you are using a cooler important or were they just designed to fit in that cooler?
they were designed for this specific cooler, and I guess with the idea of having them fit very tightly, this needing to crack the insulation
I want this so bad already asked my chef to steal some freezer space
I think is better to test with traditional silicone ice trays and for less than 300$
If it takes 3 days to freeze it is 16 blocks per day. So probably too small for a bar and it is to big for home use. I don't really see the customer base.
And they are somehow charging $300 for silicone molds without supplying the cooler. I'm not sure how they came to the conclusion that this product would ever be worth it for a bar or over enthusiastic home use. You could buy any other $15 silicone ice mold off Amazon, poke holes in it, and put it in a cooler--I've done it several times and worked honestly a bit easier than what's going on in this video. Feels like a big swing and a miss for this review.
What are the other measurements of the cubes?
You mentioned attainable height but not the widths
The pictures on their website look like 2" x 2" square, with options for either 2.5" or 3" tall. So similar width to a standard 2x2 inch mold, but around 25-50% taller. Which, IMO, is a great size. Should fit in any rocks glass without needing to carve the corners, and that extra height will ensure a tall wash line and even slower dilution.
they're 2" wide so you can make 2x2" up to 2x3"
OK, stupid question - you have 48 blocks of clear ice...now what? If you toss those in the freezer do they get cloudy?
Nope. Put them in a ziploc bag and store them. They will not get cloudy ever
Wavy blocks are kinda-sorta cool….
I was kinda hoping for a 72hr video to have on the background
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How many subscribers will it take for you to do a 72 hour live video waiting for it to freeze?
ooh good question. At 1 million subs! (in dr evil voice)
"All you have to do is buy this $300 cooler and then break it, and then it works, sorta"
I mean if by sorta you mean that it makes perfectly clear ice blocks every time, then yeah, it sorta works 😂
ıt takes 3 days for freeze cause of bulk that means productivity is not good. 10 pieces ice mold tray freeze apprx. 16-18 hours and 5 of them makes 50 ice cube. 5 trays is around 190 dollars, this system is 350 dollars. Not acceptable. I love the idea but must develop even about price.
Didn’t show water pour, not clear how product functions
i guarantee that silicon will eventually tear
This is made for use in a business? 72 hours to make enough ice for 48 drinks assuming you use 1 cube per drink. I guess this is maybe viable for a business if your bar is small and slow?
Well no if you have a walk in freezer as most restaurants do, you can keep this freezing on a rotation and just stockpile your ice that way you always have enough. This is great for bars who don’t mind a little extra elbow grease and don’t want to go through a specialty ice company or don’t have that option
Ok so after 72 hours you are wearing the very same t-shirt 🤣 nice
You could’ve changed clothes while you waited!
Nah.
I agree with Leandro. It is Negroni WEEK, after all.
300 bucks for a big ice cube mold that doesnt even fit the cooler they designed it for... also it doesnt come with the cooler lol. I think they need to refine some things haha
Three hundred dollars for a piece of silicone that gives you vaporwave shaped ice that you need to buy another product in order to use? That's gonna be a no from me dawg
I love clear ice. But this is too much work
$300 would seem reasonable if they actually made their own insulated storage container instead of making you buy a specific cooler. That much money for what just amounts to a really big set of silicon ice trays when a price of $50 a piece would have been reasonable.
FWIW, the cooler only costs around $25-30. I guess they are charging more because of a combination of:
- Recouping R&D costs
- Dealing with economies of scale
- High quality inputs / inefficient production environment
- Lack of competition in their specific market niche
If they do want to enter the home user market, they'll need to address those elements to be competitive. Conceptually though, I think it's pretty doable. I'm gonna keep an eye on this company for sure, and hopefully sometime in the not too distant future, they have a product that makes around 12-18 cubes for a smaller cooler at under $100.
$300 for a mold and not even a cooler lol.
This system with the cooler included goes for $342 today. The Coleman party stacker 48 is roughly $30. So....you’re paying $300 for a bunch of silicone? Maybe I missed something but this seems like one of the biggest ripoffs ever
Love your commitment to the joke Leandro but I can assure you that exactly no one thought you'd be waiting there for 72 hours
When you guys said some iteration of “clear block ice freezing system” for the 18th time in the first 30 seconds of the video, I typed this comment and then moved on with my life.
You really milked that dude. Man you can really crap on.
This seems surprisingly mediocre for $300.
Too much talk with less actions
This product isn’t ready for prime time. It’s huge, expensive, impractical, and takes forever. 48 blocks in 72 hours? Good review, very mediocre product.
Not practical, too expensive. And the ice cubes aren’t even big enough!