U-He Repro 5 vs Prophet 5
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Comparing the U-He Repro-5 with the real Prophet 5.
In Part 1 you hear an A/B comparison. I tried to reprogram some of my Prophet patches on the Repro-5 as close as possible.
Part 2 stacks them both together using the Midi out of the Prophet, basically giving me a Prophet 10.
Part 3 is a challenge for you. I always play on the Prophet, but sometimes you hear the Prophet, sometimes you hear the Repro. Please leave a comment with your assumption wich is wich. - Hudba
When you've sold all your chairs to buy a Prophet 5. Great video!
that would be some damn expensive antique chairs, I tell ya! at least one French king Louis pressed a few farts into. the older Louis it was, the pricier!
Dude!!!
lol :D !!!
Haha, I couldn't get up from this position. So I'd rather stick to Heckman's version and keep my chairs.
YOU KISS YO MAMA WITH THAT MOUTH ?
That rug really ties the room together.
f*cking ayy
And this guy peed on it.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Hey! This is a private residence...man!
The mans giving you some exceptional informative tech comparisons and you comment on some bs smh
Functionally identical. U-He nailed it.
The Prophet really is a beautiful synth.
Repro1 and Repro5 are awesome VST instruments. Thank you for showing :)
One of the best comparisons I‘ve ever seen👍
came for the comparison, stayed for the chord progressions; thumbs up!
Seriously can’t tell the difference. Love the Uhe synths. Glad I bought them all.
u-he stuff is a whole level above other software synths for sure
@@DubElementMusicdune 3 is close in quality I feel from the demo i tried, although the little central screen leaves a little to be desired
Synapse is the only company that compares I feel.
@@theARDISAN in retrospect, the hardware synth does sound little brighter and more detailed. The plugin is a little muted, though I don't think that's the correct word.
@@NeonPLotushonestly I think it’s just in your head… even individual hardware units vary from unit to unit (especially ones that are decades old)
I've watched this so many times. I just keep coming back for the notes played.
your patching skills are great man, great demo, very musical, good harmonies and programming!
Thanks a LOT for this huge quality vidéo ! You help us finding our true advice on those subjects. Thanks
You, my good Sir, have just sold me the product. Awesome sound! Awesome video!
Holy Sh!t, I love it. I don't care which is which, I love your playing and patches. Great job!!!
Bro literally just playing basic chords tho lmao
Love your comparison by the way
Thank you for making this. It's interesting and helpful.
Thanks for this cool test! The plugin is really awesome.
This sounds remarkably close to the original. Great job!
Sehr aufschlussreich der Vergleich. Danke.
All clear. Thanks for this compa.
Thank you, beautiful playing. You're video made me decide to get repro
Those patches are beautiful. Please put more music like this on your channel!
Excellent demo! Enjoyed this very much.
Great playing and great sounds! You should release the patches
best comparison video on youtube by far...
Great comparison!
Watched your video again and damn, they are so close. Uhe nails this one almost perfectly. News: they made an update for Diva which saves some CPU, wanted to share a those amazing news. Have a great time.
Lovely video. Just wanted to add my voice to the unison stack of commenters praising your playing and chord choices etc. Really great!
Yes dude best comparison I've seen!
Sounds so good together hah
Super gemacht :) tolle Progressions, spannend.
Excelent demo, no matter if the plugin sounds exactly like hardware, everything sound very good and your demo is very, very nice. So, the "human part" of this is what makes the real deifference to me.
That stacked sound is absolutely stunning. Goosebumps.
Stacked vsts rule, I am always making stacks of 2 or 3 low cpu vsts. Will sound as good as any digital hardware synth - probably better.
@@tenalock Which VST's do you consider low cpu?
@@blueeyedsoulman In my experience, sylenth. I build instrument racks with multiple sylenths and have so many of them running. My sample rate can still be set to the lowest. That is using i7 processor. The new M1/M2 I look forward to trying but I dont trust any youtube vids, just my own experiences. Saving up.
fm8 is probably the greatest low cpu synth ever made. also more presets than any other synth if you include all the dx7 patches floating around.
Great test, thanks!
Really cool video. Thank you for doing this!
wow!!! checked out your album on spotify! beautiful stuff!
Wow Marius, the differences are indistinguishable to my ears at least. Glad to own Repro though, I must say.
God this makes me want to get a lot better at playing keys. Absolutely beautiful voicings and movement. I tuned in for the comparison but almost immediately turned off the analytics brain and just enjoyed what I was hearing. I would buy an album of music like this and I'd pay at least $25 for it.
Sounds close enough and good
I bought the Repro-5 (and 1) straight away. Amazing bit of engineering, a work of art one might say, as is probably all of U-he's stuff. You play well btw :)
i only use software synths from u-he, with zebra3 i can do everything i need, diva and repro sounds excellent, its jsut a level above other vst`s
Don't care about the comparison, but love the different characters you get from these synths.
man, Patch 8-10 are beauuuutiful! especially 8 and 9.
Glorious. These are so very close. I don't believe many people could tell them apart.
This is an amazing tutorial about how the human brain fails when we expect something we see with our eyes. It is indeed still much more fun to play a Prophet 5 - given that it is in tune, works, and you don't have to kill someone to get it into your studio.
Shame on me: I only made 4 guesses right, and I actually played the real thing quite often.
What I find interesting is that I did a similar test on a Prophet 5 vs. DSI Prophet 08 and it's successor REV2. In this test, all my guesses were correct except one, but there we had a very short plucked sound. On pads you can tell the difference immediately.
More than that, I also let my wife do the DSI comparisons, and she even did a better result, identifying ALL DSI sounds. Unlike me, she has no long time synth background and only knows VSTis . Her secret for guessing was "well when it sounded like a typical VSTi, it's the new one".
So, whatever magic there still is in the vintage hardware: Before you get yourself some replica, trust your ears, not your brain. You are better off with an U-He. Theses VSTi's are far closer to the famous vintage sound than their today's analogue counterparts.
Hats off, Urs!
This is pure gold
lovely music
thank you so much dude you're a god
The stuff starting at 2:10 and 3:23 are some of my favorite musical experiences ever.
Spot on!
love at first sound..
these sounds brings me back in 1980...
Never knew what hit me
both are sounds very similar. And yeah Repro1/5 - is absolute monster from the VST's. It's sounds so different from other VST's, so rich, raw and harmonic, absolutely love this synth, it's a future of VST and it's already here, when VST can beat most of Hardware synths(and yeah, i using some of best Hardwares too, it's also cool and different sounding, but brothers - we all must recognize - VST is already in same level. minimum:)
No 4 at 6:00 , HOLY GEEZ! I have the Repro5, will check these stuff out asap! Love ur style mate you look like Vincent Pontare !
Complimenti!!!
Great video 👍👍👍 convincing software emulation from uhe ‼️
wow it sounds really good! at this point I think the only difference in sound would be attributed to your front end recording chain (i.e. nice line amps to colour the sound) and even then the final sounds of the software version could be reamped for the same effect. cool!
Very nice, thank you for the comparison. They sound close enough, that I wouldn't care to buy a real Prophet-5, even if money was no problem.
Now, as to what is what, here's my assumptions:
1. Repro-5
2. Prophet
3. Prophet
4. Repro-5
5. Repro-5
6. Prophet
7. Repro-5
8. Prophet
9. Repro-5
10. Prophet
looking forward to the results!
5/10
Marius Leicht thanks for let me know, surprised and excited. Bought it already and love it!
Hey Marius, I love the first melody line. Is it from a larger song, or did you improvise this?
Nice playing!
Great shootout Marius. Thanks. I own repro 5 too and love it. I feel like pro5 has more bottom end on some patch. Some of the preset you made are wonderfull by the way.
Thanks a lot!
You should make a patch folder for the Repro-5 we can purchase! I love all of these
Very nice
Ladys and Gents, today I'll reveal the answers to the challenge. In two weeks, no one has managed to have all correct. Closest guess has been 8/10 and the average 5/10. So here they are:
01: Prophet 5
02: Repro-5
03: Prophet 5
04: Repro-5
05: Repro-5
06: Prophet 5
07: Prophet 5
08: Prophet 5
09: Prophet 5
10: Repro-5
Nice! Thanks for doing the test. Very good for anybody who thinks they can "easily" hear the difference. Well done mate! Well done.
Hm, only the first pair got me confused. Also, does number 8 really come from P5 - how does it have the reverb tail?
Yes, Number 8 really is the Prophet 5. It gets the reverb tail from - a reverb ;-)
😂 OK, now I see what you did there)))
I just tested myself. I got all right except for 8 and 9. That's 80% correct. But when you were doing the back and forth in the first half of the video I couldn't hear any differences. Strange.
I think to say they are "getting quite close" is an understatement. I monitor on PSI A25m through the Mytek DA and on that it sounds dead on. Pretty great job matching the sounds in "Part 1". I think in the first patch the actual Prophet sounds like it has a bit of a pitch bend on some notes (maybe a touch of portamento or a bit of envelope to oscillator pitch) but that's a programming difference (and a subtle one at that). You could adjust on the Repro I'm sure. On a top notch monitoring system it's difficult to hide anything and the Repro is there. Again great job programming the sounds to match.
Exactly my thoughts, monitoring in a mastering studio here (am a mastering engineer) and this is SPOT ON. Slight variations in pitch are typical for analog gear, not even one Prophet sounds like the other anyway, so th e software could just be "another" Prophet too - not better, not worse, just a 100% match what they´ve done there - crazy times!
Same here on some psi a17m. What a era we're living on !!!
Good thing 90 percent of people listen on ear buds and shitty car speakers... yes it's a cool debate but it's funny even shitty guitar samples people just go owe nice guitar on the track
Well I'm listening on Beyerdynamic DT-880 and also Genelec 8351B in a treated room and I can hear the difference between some patches and the real P5, specifically the first patch he plays when he hits that low A#, the P5 has definitely more heft in the low end. Listen to it again. That said, this could be down to programming and sure they sound almost identical for the most part.
@@manny_f Yep you'll have differences. It's pretty hard to match settings with programming and there will also be some deviation from unit to unit etc etc. Makes the whole point kind of moot probably. Maybe the only relevant question here is can this thing impersonate a Prophet in a production. And it seems like it can I suppose might be the conclusion.
What youtube was made for. Good demo sir
lovely
very cool work ! I own repro5, diva & the legend and these softsynths are absolute great and IMO better than arturia, NI, ...
but in this video the original pprophet sounds so great. little more grid and a tighter bass !
wow, thanx !
Na Aturia are dope they gave Me the Mini V and Rodes for free, I dont know why but I have them.
great job hard to tell when you switch
I'd love to try those presets also ! They sound great !!!
@Marius Leicht
Hi marius!
what is the preset you used on the no 3 demonstration of yours?
really liked that sound and ill be happy if you can reply with that name of the preset! im using the repro 5 by the way!
thanks anyway for sharing the video!
You’re the amazing key player, with Martin Miller💥💥💥
Thank you! That‘s right I‘m the keyboardist in the Martin Miller Session Band.
WTF
that's really damn damn close if not no difference. own from U-He Diva and am very happy with her. but I bought U-he Repro 1+5 directly after this video. currently at NI in the sale 75€ for a mega synth.
now only your patches are missing ;)
thanks for the video.👍👍
even at the start knowing he is playing which one still I couldn't feel the difference. Didn't knew soft synths could mimic this close to their analog hardware. I tried using moog patch book to recreate similar sound patches on Arturia Minimoog, Synapse Audio Legend, and Reaktor Monark. didn't got the exact intended tone. it was similar but very much noticeable difference
Could you let me know the patch names in the random test (if they're in the factory banks, of course)? Thank you.
The rug goes well with the Prophet 🙂
I think they are pretty much identical. The differences seem to be in the Volume which could be up to the velocity curves in the keys between the prophet and the midi keyboard. The Diva still seems more dynamic and a bit deeper and warmer.
Agreed. There is a very slight difference in velocity/dynamic range.
Fabulous. I can't tell the difference.
Damn, 4:26 was beautiful.
Sounds very good this uhe emulation...what do you play at 04:00?
how'd you get that sound on repro at 2:35 on repro?? thank you for doing htis!
Masterful playing. Please could you share your Repro 5 presets?
5:34 really nice patch
how to make it? can anyone send me that patch :(
depends on what you want to show in the test...differences or similarities.
I was focusing on the 60s furniture!
The sound of the real synth feels humane...the vst walks like a human, has arms and legs...but it is a zombie. No soul!
its an incredible recreation true, great playing ! but to look/ play a midi keyboard compared to actually doing the sounds with an actual prophet 5 is a whole different heaven, surely !
Yeye thats true, but what about spending 150euros for a vst that good and using a midi controller for knobs?
The price difference is out of this world for such quality
@@tonioswan true vst's are really good these days, but from my experience they only ever get me half way there. the real sound / feel of actual hardware absolute over takes. i dont shut down vst though, as sometimes they even stay in my mix :)
@@MorbidManoeuvresthat’s called a placebo effect my friend
most accurate digital remake of a classic synth yet
Sounds great! What midi keyboard are you using?
Pretty damn close
No 3 sounded the most like it had to be the real prophet 5. But I don't know. I find these youtube tests to be helpful, but only to a point. I bought a rev2 and deepmind based on youtube videos showing how "close" they sounded to a prophet6 and juno 106 respectively. Owning a Juno 106 now I wouldn't trade it for the world, even though I have TAL's plugin and for static synths in a track you probably can't tell the difference. Actually playing the Juno 106 it comes to life. Similar experience with the OB6, though I found what the OB6 could do to be limited by the smaller keyboard and the 12db filter. I kept wanting its filter to do a more pronounced low-pass and it couldn't. It left every patch feeling retro-y and thick. The OB6 is the perfect synth for someone looking to make pure retrowave/darkwave/synth pop. If you want to do more modern or pop like sounds and colder/more-precise tones, I think you have to look elsewhere. Will definitely check out the U-HE after this though. Thanks for the great video.
Finally, a Prophet-5 emulation with the same level of quality as SonicProjects emulation of the Oberheim OB-X.
Adam Borseti you mean OPX-pro II
OP-X Pro II, Legend, and Repro are hands down the only VST that sound like a real analog. BTW still making tracks with your presets on that one. Thanks!
@@lorenmorgan1931 What about the tal-u-no-lx (juno 106 emulation) or the jupv8 by arturia? (also, who's presets and for which instrument?)
@@princepagan Jup8 V is a joke! Sounds nothing like a real one. The Roland Cloud one is very close to a real thing though. Tal is great and is very close, but again the Roland Cloud one is pretty much perfect.
Only qualm with Roland cloud is they lack dynamics. They sound like they are using brickwall compression.
@@lorenmorgan1931 Don't forget Diva
Hello Marius, this is perhaps out of context for this video, but your Hammond playing is so awesome, you are my 'Jon Lord' now. Would you, Martin and the band do 'Flight of the Rat' by Deep purple, from 'In Rock' sometime please? I loved your Purple Medly..to hear you do 'Child in Time', the best Hammond sound on record would make me so very happy :) Many thanks, and keep all those awesome original Keyboards working HARD!
What a zintetizer has sounds like ROLAN D 800DV Analog 1975 (To get the Kitaro Sound on Silk Road) Thank you very much
Sounds so good. Could you share some of these repro 5 settings?
Not a synth guy. But I think low bass is not same. Someone who is playing would feel it. Otherwise i don't think no one will notice. But there is something called inspiration.
what I've found with high priced legendary instruments is that when you know what legends have made with it, you seem to try harder because then you know for sure its not the instrument, its you.
yes the low end is better on the hardware . But the mids and highs are identical.
What was the first patch you played on repro5? Is it a cover of a song? Which rev of Prophet do you have?
I love my Pro-1, but I'm not sure if buying a real analog polysynth makes much sense anymore!
Tolles Video + faszinierendes Kanal = Abonniert !
First patch - on the Prophet there's a slight glide up to the notes that seems to be missing from the Repro, do you think this is a difference in the patches or in the synths themselves??
#3 on the blind test is fucking gorgeous
Hello Marius, i’ve become a great fan. I came across your video with Martin Miller showing the ultimate queen medley. In the video at the time signature of 19:33 , You start playing “the show must go on” and I’m wondering if the strings for that part Are made with the profit 5, u-he repo 5 or with some other instrument. I’ve been looking for great sounding strings to use and would love your help in input. Thanks
M Butler Thanks for hitting me up! I‘m glad to hear you like my work.
Concerning your question: What you see in the Queen video is exactly what you hear: the hardware Prophet 5.
If you need some guidance in reproducing the patch, just drop me a line via my webpage www.mariusleicht.com
Marius Leicht
Thank you
Awesome video. Can I ask what's that keyboard midi controller on the video? Cheers
Thanks for watching! The controller is a Korg Kontrol 49.