Ep. 263 The Last 24 Hours of the Original KISS, PLUS Exclusive Video Footage
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- Episode 263, January 16, 2018. This week we are joined by Emmy Award winning video producer Fabio Jafet. Fabio had unprecedented access to KISS during the last 24 hours the original members of KISS were together for their final show! Fabio shares his stories and memories from that day AND... he shares for the very first time exclusive video footage from that day! This footage has NEVER been seen before. This is a incredible look into a historical moment... the last time Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Peter Criss and Ace Frehley performed together.
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Since launching in 2013 Three Sides of the Coin has been viewed or listened to nearly 3,000,000 times. Three Sides of the Coin has been joined by special guests including former KISS lead guitarist Bruce Kulick, Eddie Trunk, WWE Superstar and lead singer of Fozzy Chris Jericho, Angel lead guitarist Punky Meadows, Five Finger Death Punch guitarist Jason Hook, Vinnie Vincent Invasion and Slaughter lead singer Mark Slaughter, Twisted Sister’s Dee Snider, comedian Craig Gass, KISS’ former business manager Chris Lendt, the Black Veil Brides' Andy Biersack, Frank Munoz associate producer for Ace Frehley's Anomaly album, award winning songwriter Adam Mitchell, Ed Kanon (Peter Criss' drum tech), Kevin Valentine (drummer on KISS' Psycho Circus album). Three Sides of the Coin was picked (October 2013) as a 'What's Hot' podcast by Apple's iTunes.
In the early '90s, Michael Brandvold launched the fifth ever website on the Internet devoted to KISS, KISS Otaku. He built, launched and maintained Kissonline.com (KISS' official web presence). He now owns Michael Brandvold Marketing, providing marketing services and digital strategy to musicians. Tommy Sommers spent 15 years on the record show circuit collecting, trading and selling memorabilia / Kiss merchandise. He is now a successful residential Real Estate agent in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area. Tommy has also produced a KISS song For The Oddfathers and is the owner of Rock Steady Digital Photography. Mark Cicchini, is a world renown KISS collector. KISS have used parts of Mark’s vast KISS collection for audio, video & print materials including their book NOTHIN TO LOSE, CD re release of the LOVE GUN album & the VH1 Ultimate Album KISS ALIVE! special as well as many other KISS projects. His wife also makes a mean meatloaf!!!
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I saw KISS in Australia on the Farewell Tour, standing in the rain and with Ace Frehley clearly off his head/out of his mind and making mistakes on the guitar....and it was still MAGIC!
That's Rock N Roll
Which farewell tour?! Lol😂
I saw them in Memphis and they were damn good! Made me feel like I was that 12 year old boy jamming in my room again!!
I've met Gene one time coming out of a radio station a few blocks from a KISS show in Norfolk. Crazy nights tour. He was really nice, asked for an autograph, i had just a black envelope, as i had no idea i'd meet him. He signed it and spoke a moment with me as he walked to his car. He told me to enjoy the show. The best memory i had about it was how he smelled. Whatever he had on was obviously a very very high end expensive cologne. Great experience.
Years later March 1990, Gene and Paul were doing a radio station tour. A friend invited me to take photos in the studio. The DJ, Gene, Paul, their PR guy and i were the only ones in the studio. Both had sunglasses on, Paul's hair tied back. It was the last station of the day and it was a ZOO type station. Paul wasnt in the best spirits, and it was made much worse when the DJ had him read a compliant letter from a foreign person about the station during a break.. Paul read it and thought it was kinda funny, HOWEVER, the DJ played it back live with some offensive music in the background. Paul became very upset with the DJ, cuz he didnt know he was doing it. Paul said a few choice words to the kid PR guy and it seemed like it was going to arise to more. Gene then gently calmed Paul down and he let it go. So now i wanted to take a photo of them from the DJ's chair, Gene said "Sure"! and even took off his sunglasses and never put them back on. Paul didn't, but politely posed. They then posed for everyone i took the pics and they were out. I knew Paul was tired and was happy for this radio bit to end, but overall they were awesome to me. They both signed a bootleg, but only after Gene looked at the back and it was a pic of a naked girl. He laughed and said "Uh, you know, i've never seen that one. Even got a laugh out of Paul as they left.
What did his ass smell like
Awesome testimony dude!!
Ace's new song 10,000 Volt's is great... can't wait until the album comes out...
Luv all that information. Thanks for all your efforts. As an Aussie, I saw the reunion tour & had a great time but I did notice (in all honesty) that Peter wasn't as capable as a drummer as he once was. The following tour to Australia was the farewell tour & Eric Singer was on drums. I was aware that Peter had departed & was initially disappointed but thought I would still go to the gig. It was outdoors (at the Gold Coast gig) & it was a great night. Ace sang approx 4 songs & KISS played exceptionally well. No disappointment at all.
Michael;
Unless I'm mistaken Paul and Gene did want Ace to keep playing with them after the Farewell Fiasco but Ace Didn't want to keep playing the same old songs.
My first KISS album was KISS ALIVE, I was 12 in 1975 and I only knew Rock and Roll all Night, the album cover is what caught my attention and when I heard the opening song DEUCE I was hooked forever!
Also, I’ve seen them 4 times, 1978, 1984, 2016 and 2021 at the beginning of The End of the Road, always incredible!
My first album was KISS alive 2! I remember it had the tattoos in it just like theirs!
One of the BEST "3 Sides" episodes. BRAVO!
I totally agree with Andrew Salter's comment below as to this nonsense Fabio speaks of on KISS doing a favor for Ace and Peter to rejoin the band when they did. Fabio, you know nothing on the subject matter to say this. I have been a fan for life of the old and true KISS and not this KISS cover band now that it is. I saw Tommy Thayer in his KISS tribute band at a small dive bar in the early 1990's called "FM Station" in North Hollywood, California and I think his KISS tribute band was called "COLD GIN" with his old singer from "Black N Blue" playing the part of Peter Criss. I remember seeing Gene and Paul hiding in the back of this this bar observing the crowds reaction and excitement to see the tribute with full make-up. They were planning this original line-up tour for sometime.
I was also there to see KISS in their almost complete death when they were so far down that they even did an appearance at my local "K-Mart" parking lot on San Fernando Road in Atwater Village near Los Feliz in Los Angeles which was not by any means the nicest area at the time and they were there to sign autographs to promote KISS Alive 3. It was horrible to see them like that. KISS absolutely needed Ace and Peter to reboot and become the biggest touring act once again. I still think to this day that Ace and Peter should have held out for a better contract and much bigger piece of the pie because KISS was OVER at that time and they were both responsible for the now mega mansions that Gene and Paul get to enjoy for the rest of their lives while Peter and Ace are still struggling.
Whatever the case may be, all 4 of these "Men" should pull their heads just long enough out of their asses to give the millions of fans what they deserve. One final Good Bye with ALL original members.
Peter is retired
i agree Scary.....utter bullshit Gene and Paul doing Ace and Peter a Favour......it was All business and Money both sides needed each other ........Paul &Gene need them more than they let on.....KISS was on life support until the reunion....Ace &Peter should have realised this and negotiated a better deal.....both sides gained from it all
Scary Closet Peter can't do it. He retired and he should stay retired. Ace can still do it and that probably WILL happen.
Scary Closet KISS needed the reboot/reunion in 1996. However, by 2000, Peter Criss was hardly necessary anymore. Even Ace was happier playing with Eric Carr. They still continued to tour and sell lots of tickets. Even after Ace, they continued to make money and tour.
I was at the last show in North Charleston, SC. I was on the floor roughly lined up with the center of the stage. I
remember hearing the rumors that were circulating but at the time I didn't know for sure that this would be the last show
with all 4 original members. I thought...they're just fighting over some small contract dispute but will get it worked out
and then they will probably finish up the tour. But when it was all said and done. I couldn't be happier
that it worked out that I got to see the last show with all 4 original members because I didn't think it was how or where
it would end. I always thought they would do their last show in New York or some other big city but not anywhere in South
Carolina of all places. But I'm glad they did. It definitely made this life long Kiss fan happy.
I didn't get any video but I do have a bootleg video of the show (that I got within a week after the show from
the guy who filmed it). I also got some pretty good photos. I managed to get some cool shots with a good camera.
Some things I noticed at the show. I remember when they were doing the "jam" at the end. I knew that was very out of character
for Kiss so I knew that I was seeing something cool/different when that was happening. Around that time I was watching all of
them closely but I was really watching Gene when fans were passing/throwing things on stage for him to sign. I couldn't believe
he was doing that either. I remember somebody threw a local radio station's t-shirt to Gene and he opened it, looked at it and
shook his head "no" and threw it back to the person in the audience. So, I think maybe Gene was only signing official Kiss stuff
that was passed up or thrown on stage. And at one point I clearly seen Gene mouth the words "Thank You" to a fan in the crowd
and blow them a KISS. After the show was completely over, music came on over the PA and I wasn't in any hurry to leave so I just
sort of sat there for a bit waiting for the crowd to thin out and thinking about what I had just seen and putting it together
with the rumors I was hearing leading up to the show and letting it all sink in. And thinking I might have very well just seen the
last show with Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter. And just before I finally got up to leave I thought I should get one more keepsake
from the show. So, I looked down at the floor at all the confetti and most of it was dirty, stepped on, or had beer or some
other spilled beverage on it but I found some clean and dry pieces and grabbed them!
And for the record, I think this show should be released on DVD. I still have my ticket stub, a t-shirt, photos, a bootleg video of the show, my memories and even some confetti but this would complete the collection. HA!
I was there too. My buddy and I must have caught a cold from someone near us because we were both sick as dogs.
The one thing about the note peter gave Gene, peter did play with them again after this
the re uniting is SOMETHING (VERY SPECIAL) MAGICAL !
I've tried about eight times to put my feelings about this episode in words, but they never come out right so all I'm going to say is GREAT SHOW.
KISS may be "just Gene and Paul" from the business end , and they did perpetuate the group in the years after Peter and Ace were gone , but to then fan perception varies. Clearly there is no way Gene and Paul earn anywhere near the money they earned during the reunion years without Ace and Peter, not even close.So while I do agree Ace and Peter were pains in the ass to varying degrees during that period, (and sometimes based on relevant issues) there is no denying their impact and importance to the huge resurgence in fan interest, and willingness to spend money on KISS.I also don't believe they were paid commensurate to the increased revenue they provided.
You nailed it, spot on....!
Went down to Charelston to see Dan Fogelberg Solo Tour show . When picking up tickets , two guys at the next window were picking up their KISS tickets ! Had no idea they were going to be playing at the arena the next night
You have a complex down there of Embassy Suites , Performing Arts Center
( The Fogelberg show ) AND the arena , it's ALL connected . Big surprise , didn't know it was to be a historical show .
At the end Ace went into "" James Bond ".. Gene joined in ... and on the video screen Paul is mouthing " Help Me !! "
Oh to see the Pro Shot vid ......
Eddie Trunk did a pod cast last week
were he said they should do a go fund me page were they come up with money to have Gene Simmons deliver the vault to Eddie trunk in his studio and do an interview. That would be cool
I was fortunate enough to have had amazing parents who took my younger brother and I to the 77 show at the Garden!! Currently I have NO Love for Gene or Paul, and will only support Frehley. Just saw him at Stereo Garden on Long Island NY and it was Amazing. Immediately bought tickets for his appearance at Carteret NJ in April. He was my favorite as a kid, and still is. Stood in a Thornwood NY deli in the early 90s RIGHT next to him and didn't know it until he left. But it was a miracle regardless. Curly FOREVER
They were pretty cool in 75 when I was 10 years old.
It was cool seeing these clips I was born and raised in Charleston SC
I saw the KISS farwell tour in Perth Australia with the line up of Paul, Gene, Ace and Eric it was awesome I got to take my sons who were bummed Peter wasn't there, but after the first song Eric was and still is there favourite. I have great memories of that night amazing show I really liked that line up for the show :)
this was my favourite episode so far I really enjoyed Fabio as a guest and you all put on an amazing show thanks for having three sides I look forward to it every week
I saw KISS on the Reunion tour, Psycho Circus tour, and Farewell tour. I must have caught them on a good night early during the Farewell tour because it was by far the best show of the three.
Same here. I saw the August 11, 2000 Verizon show. It was great fun.
Good show. The only thing is Fabio's take that after Gigi gave Gene that letter from Peter he doesn't think there is any way Peter would ever play with KISS again was obviously wrong. Peter was back in the band a year or two later for the Symphony and Aerosmith tour.
Mat Man That's what I thought. He came back.
Wonder what Paul's first words to him were? "Hey Pete, remember when you tried to kill me with that snare drum?
You said Peter would never play with them again but he did come back after Ace left, I don't understand.
One more comment. My first time seeing Kiss was the Hot in the Shade tour and around that time my friends and I would hang out behind the concert venue and try and meet bands as they arrived for sound check (this is in Portland, OR). Gene got off his bus and was super cool and personable and signed for ~30 people. I was stunned that a "rock star" of his magnitude would do that. Kulick also signed but we never saw Paul or Eric. Awesome show!
Scott Eshleman I met ace in 85 at a show before He got his Frehleys comet deal. He was awesome but honestly he was out of his mind. (Space Ace). My friend and I snuck backstage in when he got off he asked how he Did? I said you were awesome! I then realized he thought I was part of the band. Haha. True story. I then went backstage and was given a heineken and was saying to myself I cannot believe I am party with my ero. At that same time a 100 or so fans came rushing through with kiss albums to sign. That's when security said anyone without The backstage pass get the hell out. They took my mind again and my dream was over. Still a good Memory though. Meeting Paul Stanley was a different story. I saw him with my girlfriend and my buddy in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania doing a Solo tour in 1988. He did sign an autograph but when we went to talk to him the doors were locked and then almost got in a fight with his wannabe tough guy security guard which in sure Paul tried to sik on me. And all because we were standing In the lobby after the concert hoping to talk to him for a couple minutes
Wow, Tommy finally went through with the operation? He (she) looks fantastic! More knowledgeable now, too!
best...comment...ever!!! (Mark)
It was mentioned ‘Gene & Paul did them a favor’
I totally disagree, Kiss were fizzling out fast and furiously until the reunion tour in 96’. So you can also say Ace and Peter did them a favor too....
As the old ( and true ) saying goes - ‘It’s all about the money’.
totally agree!
@@mpjlpoole , I'm glad you see my point! They all got together to do the tours and yet again it all turned into a shit show because of the moneys.
I'm willing to bet if they just split the damn cash four ways they most probably would've played a lot longer and Gene & Paul would've probably made even more cash in the long run too.... As the old saying goes - Money is the root to evils lol!
@@TommySG1 all due respect, but I would have done what Gene & Paul did. Remember, the core issue was being a business partner in the band, Ace and Peter both sold their stakes in the band to Gene & Paul years before the reunion and acted like they didn’t give a shit. They had no foresight for the future. Would you want known drug addicts to become a full partner in your business? Gene and Paul were screwed either way:
If they let them back in, Ace & Peter have equal say and since they have no business sense, it all would’ve gone to shit.
If they hire them as contractors which they did, they risk hurting Ace & Peter’s egos, which is exactly what happened. It’s called the music BUSINESS, it’s not about friendship or loyalty to someone they knew 20 years prior. In business: do the work, show up and hold up your end of the agreement or f#!k off. No way Ace & Peter would’ve done the work, esp Ace. He was a painkiller addict by this point in the farewell tour, that addiction is horrible. They could not have worked out either way, they don’t have the discipline or mental fortitude.
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 , I agree with your thoughts on all of this, no doubt. What they could have done though during the reunion time ( era 96’ ) was offer the two of them a more fair type of deal though…. Somehow, someway. The other thing going on with paying Ace more than Peter was another shit show. At the very least all of these details should have been out on the table when they were discussing terms. That was one of the triggers that ended that tour sooner and more abruptly, along with most probably many other issues as well….. sadly.
Peter gave Gene a note... and Peter will never play with kiss again??😂 that comment was just as legit as an Elvis autographed CD
I think they ALL did a favor to each other, by reuniting. Peter and Ace were part of the original thing and when they came back, they were part of the huge, comeback success that the band experienced. I can understand how being employees of the band (and probably treated as such) wasn't too thrilling to them. I can understand them not being team players by the end. Still, it was their drug addiction that lead to their exit from the group. That's on them, not Gene and Paul. Also, G&P kept the whole thing going and it was their attention to business that made the band as successful as it was. So, in other words...I understand both sides. I'm just happy they did get back together and made us all happy for as long as they did.
Great episode
Great show! I seen Kiss on the farewell tour in Birmingham Alabama April 2000. I thought it was a great show. I always here y’all say how bad the farewell tour was. But I thought that night was amazing. Matter fact a friend went to the show with me. And he couldn’t stand kiss. But after that night he became a diehard kiss fan.
AWESOME episode with great stories!!! I was born in '69 and thanks to an older brother, I grew up with and LOVED the original 4 members!! Ive seen KISS on every tour since Animalize along with a Vegas residency show. Some of those tours we would drive up and catch the Seattle show as well as the Portland show. Only one time did I ever leave feeling disappointed and that was the Farewell show in Portland. Ace and Peter were awful and had they stayed together I would never have gone back to seen them live again. Luckily that never happened and I have enjoyed EVERY show since.
I have a VHS tape of the last show, and I remember Ace shouting "Nipplefest!" at the final bow.
Regarding the jamming that continued into the Japan and Australia shows. Remember the one when Ace was pretty much dictating their choices, playing "Parasite" and "New York Groove," then Paul says, "How about 'Strutter?'" Ace calls out "She" and plays it, and afterward, Gene steps to the mic and says, "What does the Ace Frehley Band want to do next?" Ace starts playing "Rocket Ride" and stares at Gene the whole time. Paul says, "Alright, you've had enough of that. Let's umm..." Then he starts "Mr. Speed." Gene's so irritated, and Ace doesn't care.
Didn't Peter returned to do the kiss orchestra show after these tapes?
The beautiful Lisa!!! YES
If I recall correctly didn’t Peter play with KISS in Australia at the symphony concert in 2003?
Hey I thought this was a real cool episode. Thanks for sharing.
Do you really think Gene and Paul believed that would be the last KISS show ever?
I was just wondering why people want to meet with band members over and over and over?
I'm burning this episode on to dvd to add it to my Charleston 2000 bootleg set.
"The Gene & Paul Show" Ace Frehley made the fucking band!
...now let me go puke up my guts. Ace rules
LMAO!!!! That is why KISS soared after Ace left and Ace, well.
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@@MichaelBrandvold the first frehleys comet album still slaps
Wow is this the first show with kiss footage & music ?
I went to one of those second leg farewell shows in Houston I could tell they were misreble.. Paul was bitching about laser pens Peter was screaming at someone between every song. They still pulled it off but you could clearly tell they were sick of each other
The.renuion.was.a.mistake..n.a.joke.its.true.i.also.saw.that.they.were.not.same.before.as.a.rock.grouo.gene.n.paul.only.did.it.for.money.they.would.make.from.renioun.tour
When they finally end, there will be KISSTORY volumes 1 through 50 on DVD and I bet that final show will be included. Paul and Gene will milk the fans forever
Those two always soak the fans. As gene says for free right ??? I met gene a long time ago asked about the Houston 77 footage . I said everything on this show is fuzzy and you show clips it's like I'm there so clear when can you put it on a DVD. He said it's in the works ! Sure enough Xmas that year it was on kiss Tory box set . He told me in the works so I couldn't sue him he took my suggestion!
Peter with his tear drop makeup. Awwwww
I want to know what that note from Gigi said!!! Cool show guys/gal, Thanks again
Great show guys and girl. Very cool.
Went To 4 Farewell shows, thought they were all Great… Lucky Fabio saw a V.V. KISS show!! 👍🏻
The early shows on the tour were much better than the last half of the US tour.
Ramone are the ultimate band--toured for like twenty years with Joey and Johnny ot saying a word to each other. Now that's commitment.
I got lucky. In Boston, the Farewell Tour was excellent. Ace was totally on that night. The show was way better than the Reunion show as for the way the band sounded. I mean, the Reunion show was great cuz it was the first time the originals were back together but I recall a lot of fuck ups in that show. I thought the Psycho Circus tour and the Farewell tour shows in Boston were top notch.
Peter did play with KISS again. Aerosmith tour.
Yep he came back for the Symphony Shows in Australia and then did a few Japan Dates and the USA World Domination Tour with Aerosmith. Apparently the contract for the Symphony shows required 3 original members and the band wanted Ace but couldn't come to an agreement so Peter was the choice.
Oh the weather girl 😍😍
Do you know how many ads for SixPackAbs I've watched all the way through the last couple of weeks? I'd say about five per episode. I figure if you guys put in the time to record a new show every week, the least I can do is suffer through whichever ad Google decides I should watch. It's probably not much, but in a couple of months you may be able to treat yourselves to a cup of coffee. You'll probably have to share it. Thanks for the shows.
Ad-Block. Works wonders. No commercials.
Well... I intentionally watch the commercials to give a little something something back to the Three Sides crew, så ad-block would be kinda counter productive.
I have video footage of the whole show in Charleston if you guys are interested.
Well, he is obviously not the wisest on Kiss. If they didn't "offer" Peter and Ace to come back in 1996 there would be no KISS today. They were nothing. Also, Peter played again with them. Nice pictures, that's it. And no, KISS doesn't sell the same tickets today.
I agree. Kiss was a dying band in 1995-96 not a money making machine that did Peter and Ace a favor. The Revenge tour stopped early, they were playing conventions, and were going grunge. All four needed each other, and the makeup, at that time.
I agree he doesn’t know very much about KISS. Peter played with them again in 2003 in Australia for the symphony CD. Not a very good or credible guest.
Kiss sells out every big arena they put on sale.
@@patrickthometz6365 yes!
Before 1996 no one cared about Kiss. I old enough to remember. Ace and Peter were the catalysts that enable the machine to get moving. I don't think either one of them could pull off the show now, but it wouldn't have gotten off the ground without them.
I was at that last show at the North Charleston Coliseum. Probably my favorite song they did was 2000 Man. I also saw them at the same venue on their first reunion tour. I won front row tix from a radio station the morning of the show for winning a costume contest with my Gene Simmons costume. I was even featured on the local news. What an amazing experience- including having 2 strippers next to me flashing Gene & Paul during the show!
Your favorite song was a COVER??!!
Are you sure you weren't at a CATS show?! Lol!! Not
@@chrisharding5447 Well, I did think it was cool that they covered a semi-obscure Rolling Stones song. But really it was because Ace was in great form on this, and there was a cool visual thing on the Jumbotron, the crowd was into it, and it was the year 2000. But the concert I saw in ‘96 was better, especially since I had won front row tix for my Gene costume at a local radio station that morning. To top it off there were two girls with back stage passes next to me and my buddy. And they got the tickets due to their…. Assets. One was Team Paul, the other Team Gene. So depending on who was in front of them, they took turns displaying their… assets. It was like sensory overload. My buddy was not even a KISS fan, but was that night!!!😅. Edit. I guess I just repeated my self…. But it’s worth repeating. Lol
OMG..This whole interview is Politically charged against Peter. In my opinion, Peter is the most normal person in the band.
Reality has proven that to not be the case.
@@MichaelBrandvold Reality has proven that there is only one side of the coin on your show for any guest who wants to appear on it. I dare challenge you to a real debate over the Political division that exists in the KISS community. It would certainly get the most views ever, but you wouldnt be able to handle it.
@@joegalimi9950 What the fuck are you even talking about. We have had many different opinions, opinions I don’t agree with. Peter has proven to be the biggest problem in the band, and this isn’t just from the band saying it comes from countless people who have worked with him. So stop your stupid chest beating… I challenge you to a debate… grow up. Of course there is a division, there has always been you think you are some genius for seeing it. Please.
WOW!!!! Awesome footage and a great show!
I Have Some footage also after the MTV unplugged the reunion tour Roberts Stadium Evansville I took my son thought we had some really bad seats we were like kind of setting behind a Pole so the lights go down they come out and the Platform Ace Is On ends Up 5 ft From Use and that's where he spent most of the night he also took my Star Trek Baseball Hat and put it on while he was playing in exchange I got a few Guitar Picks but it was a great Nite and my son enjoyed it a lot
Ocho años han pasado y ese material no ha salido a la luz :(
Thumbs up from me!! AEROSMITH ALERT in the 60th minute!! 'Would you look at the time?' Blue Kool-Aid Drinker. Peace out from the Southern Tip of Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada.
Im waiting, waiting. Want to hear what the woman want to say. Besides that I saw Farwell tour in Sweden. Loved it. Te band was joking around.
Historical is a bit much. They did Australia and they did the Aerosmith tour. Forgotten? Helloooo?
I thought the guest was going to be Tommy Thayer but this is still cool
I’m sorry, but for years kiss has played the same songs from the original members, Ace, Gene, Peter and a Paul. They would play some of the 1990’s stuff, but mostly original music. Having Tommy and Eric wear the war paint of Ace and Peter is a joke…. It’s a show of disrespect toward them and to bleed 🩸 the fans of their money…. I’m tired of the circus, trashing each other and putting each other down…. I’ll continue to listen to the early stuff for the memories when they were a great band, but how they ended is a joke in my eyes….
Guess what you can do? Find something else that you do like and stop crying about KISS. None of us care. We are having a good time.
Exactly just typical stuck in a old man era box. I like Kiss from 1973 to 2024
I've been a KISS fan since 1976 when my cousin played me one of their earlier albums! I have all of their albums, cassettes, and CDs, even had some 8-tracks!
I have always been a KISS fan and always will be!
Did they do things that I, as a fan wasn't crazy about? Sure they did!
I'm a fan of The Elder and other albums other fans hate or dislike!
There's the same situation with tons of other bands I know of and love, where people dislike them or bitch about their decisions, Van Halen is a great example.
Unlike some fans, I love all versions of the band.
As a fan, whatever the band or group or performer, they are going to make decisions not everyone agrees with but it's their choice to make and they have to live with it and hopefully enough will enjoy their music and continue on as fans.
That's their choice and yours to continue following them or not. If you don't, you might miss out on something.
I don't always agree with KISS's decisions but I understand them and I am still a fan!
A couple of addicts who had no problem taking the ship down with them
I agree. Gene and Paul thinking it would be ok to have a couple of guys use Ace and Peters whole shtick seems desperate and shows a lack of creativity on their part. Pretty weak for guys who think they are all that in the music world.
Awesome interview with Fabio!
I've always wondered why after this show ended with Peter destroying his drum kit, and burning the bridge with Gene and Paul, what happened then to allow him to return a few years later to perform with them in Melbourne Australia for Kiss Symphony concert with Tommy Thayer in guitar? Seems like they made up somehow to allow him to play that very significant show post reunion tour.
I think when Peter says...'Get that thing out of my face', to be fair, he's referring to the camera's light pointed straight in his face. Id be annoyed too, considering this camera guy's been hired yet he's acting like a papparazzi monkey.
F Me, Another Top Notch Episode!!!!
Lisa I love your gray hair...I have some myself. And I bleach my hair too. Been a blonde since birth, but need it touch up now.
Peter sang/ wrote their biggest hit
Listening to Paul and Gene talk makes me sick. They are pure salesmen, they are here for the money.
I'm guessing you work for free.
Michael Brandvold LoL you have great comebacks!
You notice he didn't reply?
Michael Brandvold LoL he didn’t! Maybe if people look closer than judging than they would see different and see how cool this experience really is! Did you get a Vault, Mike?
He has no reply. He gets paid for his work AND every single professional musician out there is doing it for money. No I didn't, more important things for me to spend my money on, but no anger towards anyone who wants to get one.
Saludos fans kiss
I saw the Charlotte show on the Farewell tour. Musically, it was better than the Reunion tour and the Dynasty tour I saw as a kid. Whatever Ace had going on chemically or Peter's frustrations over Ace getting more than him, they played well in Charlotte. And when they took that final bow, I sorta didn't believe it. Turned out, I was half right.
I mean he looks young he’s got that going for him
I saw kiss in anchorage Ak January 3 2000
What a foking show wow
caught some good incidental foootage of the best Wardrobe/Ambiance/Seamstress/Babysitter/Den Mother in the biz- Beth Turnbull/Springer!!
2:35 good song
KISS:24
Alright man ! You managed to overlook the first 4 kiss albums we seen the cartoon kiss not cool for anyone 😮
Didn't Peter continue playing with them and Ace left after the farewell tour? Funny that Peter would stick around when he was so miserable. I've seen Kiss 6 times since the 80's and they always put on a good show...except the Kiss/Crue tour I though both bands were a little weaker than usual. My ear isn't good enough to hear minor differences in drumming like Mark, however I would notice a 10 second gap in playing! Rock on!
So very sad. IMO Kiss in the 70's was the best band that ever existed. They got way to greedy and money hungry and forgot what they were. After love Gun they should have taken a long break and not done the solo albums and Dynasty. If they had taken a step back and treated each other like the brother's they pretended they were and let everyone take a rest and refuel their batteries they could have come back and dominated the 80's. MTV was made for them. They all fucked it up because they stopped loving the band and only loved the money. Recipe for disaster.
@47MINUTES
it was like "a gift"
but Gene and Paul
needed to BRING them in
at that time
To get that final STRONG-HOLD on the make-up
and im sure that was the first piece of business
Paul Gené knew eventually there WOULD be some kind of split
and the makeUp makes you basically AgeLess
equalling many more years of staying on top!!!!!
Who is that beautiful Lisa?
Doc Mcgoo it was a joke -SORRY if I rubbed you the wrong way
@34:07 to me that's historical
Great show .... sad at the same time. Paul and Gene gave these guys second chance and they still ending up blowing it.... saw reunuion tour and ended it there ..the drumming was atrocious...
Y'know. Y'know. Y'know. Y'know.
Ultrasuede - You forgot the, 'But, but, but, but, but, but' .. haha
Was this filmed this week? Seems the story hasn't changed much.
No, 2000.
Great podcast bro, I'm a little confused butwho is Lisa?.....a groupie of the band? I don't believe she was properly introduced.....
Is the guy on the rights name Billy?
Because if anybody knows the last time the ORIGINAL guys were together everyone was miserable!! Everybody was jut done with everybody!! I can see everyone's side, but can only run the machine into the ground so many times.
yep, four different personalities and goals pulling in different directions. It’s little wonder they can only stand to be together in spurts.
When Mark starts being Deputy Downer Michael needs to bring up gourmet Ketchup
47:20 was that good?
Aside from the money, Paul and Gene used the “original KISS “ line up to get new member and fan exposure. They knew exactly what they were up against with Peter and Ace , but took the gamble to again, get new fans in order to get the exposure and the new generations of fans to move on with their agenda. It’s pretty obvious. Very surprising more people haven’t realized this yet. It was a win for everyone even though a dark cloud of unhappiness and ill faith hovered over the shows with Ace and Peter. Gene and Paul would go on to make millions on tour with the new recruits for the next decade…
I wonder who this footage is owned by...very clandestine.
Owned by the guest Fabio Jafet.
@@MichaelBrandvold nope, owned by CBS. It just happens to be in Fabio’s possession. He even outright says near the end that CBS would have to be involved in any formal release of the material.
My take away? Lisa is very nice looking.
So Ace and Peter not speaking to Gene and Paul. The more things change the more they stay the same
I thought the last time Peter played with them he destroyed his drum kit
Ace Frehley is KISS
You can't spell spACEman without Ace...lol
Ace is nothing without KISS, hell he even knows that and plays KISS songs on solo tours rather than his own solo material.
@@MichaelBrandvold since Ace's solo album sold way more than the rest of the band, I'd have to disagree with your opinion...lol
KISS was DOA before Ace rejoined the band.
You're throwing shade at a guy for playing songs he was involved in writing?...lmfao!
@@bryonkidder6199 it’s not an opinion, it’s fact just look at Ace’s set lists…. Filled with KISS songs. He knows those are the only songs people care about… not his solo material. Hell even Ace didn’t care about his own makeup.
@@MichaelBrandvold "KISS SONGS" THAT HE, ACE FREHLEY, WAS INVOLVED IN WRITING...lol
Ace Frehley wrote and played the solo's you hear on the original records...lol
It's no different than Gene playing KISS songs when he tours solo and Gene plays songs that Ace wrote...hahahaha
Why doesn't Thayer dress up as Vinnie Vincent?
After all Paul Stanley says he came up with the make-up design and back story...lmfao!
@@bryonkidder6199 you kool aid drinkers are so damn predictable, full of excuses and completely blind at the same time. It really is time for you to grow up and accept the reality… Ace would be NOTHING if Gene and Paul didn’t interview him and offer him the job. Ace owes everything to Gene and Paul.
Ace takes every change he gets these days to bash Gene & Paul.
That was a great episode..confirming my opinion on peter..shit drummer(after the 70’s),shit attitude..and all the gene and Paul bashers ,can you now see why Mr Criss was a complete nightmare.I would love to see The Simmons,Stanley,Frehley and Singer line up for one last blast.