I almost have decided to go with ADV150 as my first bike. But now knowing this is coming, this will be my first bike. It's highway legal in California with added 10cc! This is another good issue.
That's great news! I'm still holding out for the ADV350 release here in the States, but it's anyone's guess if that will happen or not. It looks like Honda ticked all of the boxes to upgrade the minor shortcomings of the ADV150 on this new model. Slightly lower seat, much cleaner digital dash, taller windscreen, and a wider leg shield will make huge differences in usability for most riders. Those points were the particular ones that I touched upon in my PCX versus ADV video about a year ago. Well done Honda! 😉👍 --QM
lol yeah, we might be holding our breathe indefinitely on that ADV350 release here in the states - if it's not announced in our next round of announcements coming in the next few months. Yessir, they definitely did well on ticking some of the boxes where it could stand to be tweaked a bit. It really does make this quite the package. I really wish they could find a way to keep it priced under that $4k mark but beggars can't be choosers as we're already limited enough when it comes to scooter options here in the states. Appreciate the support as always QM ;)
@@HondaProKevin I 2nd the ADV350!!!! If the 160 can do 75 MPH with me on it?? - Good luck on getting one if it does come out...I sat in a que for several Honda's and after a year of waiting...I finally dropped out.
Great improvements over the ADV150 Honda but please tell your dealers not to add a markup. MSRP plus standard destination and dealer prep is enough. My local dealer just tacked on a $2,000 mark up on almost all their bikes! That’s a good way to turn off customers. There is NO justification to gouging $2,000 on a $4,299 scooter.
As an owner of Adv 150, the additional 10cc increment and a small increase in HP and torque wouldn't be enticing enough for me to upgrade. I'll keep using the 150 for what it's intended for -- a run-around vehicle to-and-fro the neighborhood stores and for inner city commute.
I owned a red Honda Elite scooter and I wish I would have never sold it. So much fun and super easy to ride. I’m buying the Honda ADV 160 scooter as soon as it comes out. Even if it’s not red.
The second I’m allowed to drop a deposit on this, I am. I have 2 groms and was close to getting an ADV150 till I found out about the possibility of a 160 in the states. I WANT THIS BIKE ! Hurry up already !
I want the 150/160 adv for trails at parks light weight and fits in a pick-up. A vacation trail scooter with some power but quite. The 10 percent power bump is great news. I want the Aprilla sr gt 200 with 174cc or the Honda 150 adv with 149cc. But since the sr gt 200 didn't come to America this yr. Honda 160 will do just fine.
Bummer on the seat hight, at 6'4" I liked the seat on the 22 abv150. I like that matte red over the gloss. I am most concerned about the weight, hopefully it is same(ish) My plan is to use on RV for fun and utility when at camp. And when not, it is a great commuter as well. I was dead set on the trail 125 but the lack of speed didn't makes sense enough for the nostalgia factor.
The changes they made are so good for a model that's just released a few years ago. somehow they managed to changed the look of the fairings, increase storage space, make changes to windshield, handlebars and seat height, and brought their engine from PCX to the ADV. I was planning to get Tricity 155 but the changes was so minor it wasn't even worth the extra wheel for stability, imma just get the ADV 160 and fit a pair of City Grip 2 on it for wet weather.
Hits the sweet spot for Honda motor bikes/motor scooters. Unfortunately, dealers are racking on $2,000 mark ups because of “the perfect storm”, low supply and high demand fueled by high fuel and vehicle prices. My fellow scooter riders are a frugal bunch and refuse to pay $8,000 for a scooter that has an MSRP under $5,000. I would say to all consumers out there DO NOT pay over MSRP to these greedy dealers and send them a message consumers will not tolerate price gouging just because they think they can get away with it. Great scooter but will not pay the mark up.
Unfortunately the ADV 150 just carried over to 2023 and not even a different color. Just Rose Red. It would be nice to get a ADV350 or even a 250 if Honda can just make a business case to bring the motor bike here to America. Maybe offer it in two color choices as well such as silver and black. Judging from all the comments below and on other videos and sites the demand is high for anything above the ADV150 in America. Obviously Honda is deeply focused on the British and Southeast Asian and South American markets leaving North Americans with low displacement scooter options. Please wake up Honda and look at the demand that is out there. Bring a 250 or 350 cc ADV scooter to America. It will sell here. It is not a Silverwing or a Forza.
Their last attempt of bringing a higher displacement scooter to the US was the 2014 - 2015 Forza. It didn’t sell well so it had a limited run. It seems every so often they try selling a maxi scooter here and it doesn’t do well, particularly after the first year.
I just bought the 2022 ADV150 and I pick it up tomorrow. I’m good with it and not interested in the 2023 at this point. Plus I’m moving to Thailand in 2 years and will be looking at the scooters a little bigger than a 160 when I get there. Should be a lot more to choose from. Side note: There aren’t many of these out there. I think I bought one of the last few in my state. Maybe the very last one. Hard to find without driving a ways.
Just bought a new 2023 ADV the end of January 2023 and it is still the 150A model made in August of 2022. It is a great bike for island living in Florida. My local dealer had just gotten it in and may not get another for months. Perhaps the ADV 160 will arrive as a 2024 model later this year?
Thanks for the video Kevin! I have a 2021 Honda ADV150 (Silver and Black) and I'm enjoying it. I actually like the fact that the ADV160 sits lower for more stability, especially for those who are shorter in stature. I'm waiting for the dealership to get one in so I can throw my short leg around it too! ;) Did I see the ADV160 has duel disk brakes? ✌
Yessir and thank you for watching! Heck yeah! The ADV150 is a blast to rip around on for sure and the 160 really is a nice step in the right direction for the platform. Yeah, the 160 has disks front / rear but so did the 150... well, except for in the US lol! For some odd reason American Honda brings the 150 in with a drum out back and I have yet to figure out the exact reasoning behind that decision. Here's to hoping we don't get a "downgrade" again when it comes time to start bringing the 160 over here. Ultimately, it's not that big of a deal but still...
Bring back the Honda helix for the third time. I have a 2007 helix, last year it was produced. No rider modes , no frills , just a great Maxi scoot/commuter. Everyone loves the foot brake on a scooter. 250cc 75 mph and 70 mpg. I'd buy another one in a minute.
lol yeah buddy, I was selling those things new back in the day and yeah... it may have been ugly to most and still stuck in the 80s/90s but it was the most comfortable scooter I've ridden to date lol! Everyone that's owned a Helix, loves them - no doubt about it.
I was ready to buy a XR150L and my friend talked me out of it and suggested the ADV 160. Got it the other day and riding this has to be the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
If they'd put the other 190cc on it I bet they'd sell a lot better here. I'm sure Honda figures these are perfect for urban areas where the majority of people in the world live, and they're spot on. But urbanites in USA are not the same as Thais or Japanese or Vietnamese. When's the last time you seen rows of little scooter sized parking spots in an American city? Have they seen size of our trucks and SUVs? We need scoots sized for our larger backsides to cruise at highway speed for our commutes. ADV line matches the faux offroad aesthetic we tend to love, but we need more than 160cc.
Oh yeah, 100%! You're spot on there, we need some larger scooter options here in the states. Now that we no longer have the Silverwing 600, Forza 300 and all of the rest that came before them - we have nothing to choose from if you want something larger than a 160 and it's been that way for quite a few years now, which is baffling. I'd love to talk with some of the people making these decisions at American Honda and see why they do this or that when it comes to picking which models to import and why they don't bring X but will bring Y and Z over etc. It'd have to be a super interesting conversation as you would think there's a lot of research behind these decisions.
@@HondaProKevin It's the same reasons the company I work for doesn't bring the models to the US that enthusiasts keep asking for, enthusiasts don't equal paying customers. I just think in the scooter segment they miscalculated where the market is. My guess is they figure if the scooter market is gonna take off it'll be driven by practical things like gas prices, so 110 Navi, PCX/ADV160, Metro, that's the barometer to see if there's an appetite. Then someday we might grow into maxi-scooters. But these bikes are not practical in the States. If they can't carry a 250lb rider at highway speeds they'll never be any more that a 3rd vehicle bought just for fun, or a lifestyle purchase. And as long as our politicians are content with wrecking the economy fewer people will be buying a 3rd vehicle of any type. If you want a useable bike for commuting, the 500cc bikes can do 70mpg and keep up with traffic with a 250lb rider. Throw on a set of boxes and you can haul enough stuff for most people. If you can only have 1 vehicle for your family, it's never gonna be a bike in the US. You can get a hybrid RAV4 that gets 50+ mpg, drive it anywhere, with AC, and storage, and even take your spouse if you're not into peace and quiet. Scooters are doomed in the US if the manufacturers don't go back to the board room and rethink the segment. If they're trying to solve a problem, is the current scooter the best way to solve it? If it's a lifestyle purchase or a toy, is it exciting and fun enough to justify the cost? The need to stop trying to push the same products we've already rejected
@@riceburner6739 the 750 is a pricey machine so I doubt we'll ever see it in the States where scooters are generally seen as cheap wheels for college kids or toys.
@HondaProKevin where can we avail the Honda ADV 160 in the US? as much as I want the ADV 350, kinda impossible. And planning to import that ADV 160 here in Canada. hopefully everything works well.
Yes, I like the changes on the ADV! Honda, please offer 2 color choices like a black or charcoal and silver like Sword Silver if it is just one color choice. Please no more red.
sweet do you have a guess at release date? I just bought a supercub for one son, and today i bought a z125 for my other son. Looks like I'm getting a adv 160 for me!
Have a 22PCX (use for daily driver) and will be adding a 23ADV160 as soon as they show… love the new motor it has noticeable power/speed increase… Honda please bring the WHITE color to the USA
Aye that's the 160 cc version which officially launched in Jakarta, Indonesia last Friday (July 1st, 2022). Really hypes here. I am going to take one the ABS version for my self, maybe the black or red matte one. Personally, I wish to get the glossy version but it's sad, they just come for CBS version.
Yeah buddy, sometimes waiting a bit can pay off for sure! Sadly, nothing concrete on that front. As each year passes though, it's looking more and more grim...
Careful what you wish for. Namely if it's anything like Australia you'll need to sell a kidney because it's practically double the cost for the new 600RR. Thus I'd gladly trade places with you getting the previous version at a reasonable consumer cost.
Would be nice to see Honda expand the ADV scooter line to the ADV250 & ADV160 with multiple color choices. There is a demand here in America and Honda is too focused on other parts of the world.
American Honda doesn't advertise MPG for the ADV150 but it's rated at 40 km/l around the world which comes out to 94 MPG. The ADV160 is rated at 45 km/l which equals about 105 MPG so definitely a nice little bump there. I meant to talk about that in the video but apparently, I forgot lol! Oh yeah, I think the ADV350 would sell very well here in the USA! The X-ADV would be awesome, but I think it might be a hard sell for the $$ it would cost here in the USA. I think it'd be super interesting to see the numbers and talk to the people making the decisions as to why or why not American Honda will import X model but not Y or Z model etc and how they determine which ones to "try" out here in the states.
I'm from the U.S. but living abroad in Thailand. I just bought this new ADV 160 it's so much cheaper in Thailand than the U.S. This is the first moderately sized motorbike I've ridden in 30 years I'm amazed how much the technology has changed. This ADV is like riding a rocketship compared to my old 84 Kawasaki 750 LTD. Yes, I know the ADV is just a "scooter" but it's an unbelievable ride it's flawless in many ways. Very smooth acceleration, simple turning, tight suspension it feels like this bike can go anywhere. If I was in the U.S. I'd get the smoky gray color, it's by far the best. Don't even consider the PCX 160.
I wouldn’t say don’t even consider the PCX 160, it is very similar in every aspect. The PCX is geared more towards riding on pavement. It’s more a matter of style choice really. I have a 2022 PCX (160), picked one up with 500 miles on it recently, saved about $1500. Vs new.
@@Ethan.s.. You got a great deal, it's so expensive to buy new in the U.S. I've got friends that ride the Forza 350 man that is the Rolls Royce of scooters, and it sells cheaper in Thailand than a new 160 in U.S. However, it is nice to have a smaller scooter here in Thailand as there are so many millions of cars and bikes on the road we get to go to squirm in between cars/trucks/ and go to the front of the line at stoplights. Still, I'm looking to buy a 2nd bike, the Royal Enfield 411 is a nice little motorcycle that I'm interested in. Honda has a CL500 model here it's nice but to me a little boring it sells for around 6K here I think it'd be over 7K in the U.S. after tax. Congrats on your PCX 160!
@hondaprokevin SouthernPowersports has an ADV listed on their website, it states 2023 but their listing and the carfax also states150cc. Are these showing up in dealerships now or will they be 2024's?🤔
Yes sir, sadly they've been pushed back a model year by American Honda. It shouldn't come as much of a surprise though as that's been a common theme the last few years on a lot of models, with us not getting the updated version until 1-2 model years later. It's beyond crazy in my opinion but it's coming, we just have to wait a bit longer. If you're bored, here's the video I posted shortly after this particular video, where I dive into the official release from American Honda for the 2023 ADV: czcams.com/video/2-ghvE_ycIw/video.html Side note. Just noticed you signed up to be a member, I can't say thank you enough for the support bud! I wish I could do more than just say "thanks" to show my appreciation, whether it be by shaking your hand or giving you a hug or something lol. But in all seriousness, I really appreciate you helping to keep this train chugging along. Thank you...
I do not understand the ABS Antilock Braking System versus combined braking system. My Honda ADV-150 bikes have the left hand brake lever operating the rear brake only, which does NOT have ABS. The right hand brake lever operates the front brake only, that does have ABS. It is my understanding that our Honda PCX-160 bikes have ABS on the front wheel only. The front lever also applies some braking to the rear wheel as combined braking. As I cannot read the Thai language service manual I do not know which lever operates 60% front and 40% rear braking. So there is ABS on the front wheel, and combined braking on both wheels, on the PCX The height and arrangement of our older ADV-150 bikes made them handle more like touring bikes. The new ADVs seem to be more like the PCX bikes. I noticed no knobby tyres, so it is a sealed road bike now, rather than a unseal road and tracks bike. I believe Australia is demanding ABS on front and rear wheels to comply with motor transport safety regulations.
Can you/anyone confirm that the ADV 160 model being marketed in the US does NOT have the idle-stop function? Looking at other videos and online owners manual, it appears that certain 160's are being produced with it. My second question is whether this function can be disengaged to ride. I'm having to decide in a couple of weeks whether to trade my ADV 150 for a 160 and this feature would be a deal breaker for me unless it can be disengaged.
im really hoping the will bring the x-adv 750 that thing sounds mean and looks mean too, i sure am tho gonna get the adv160 for my first bike i wounder what the top speed will be cuz i would love to see if i could ride around the country with it see how it handles.
I've been thinking about getting a motorcycle/ scooter and I really like the look of the adv150 (Honda please bring the x adv to the us) but as a bigger guy I'm not sure if 160ccs would be enough to keep up with traffic, although I would just ride it to work and back and I hardly ever experience traffic on my 10mile drive to work
To be honest, the honda adv 150 kinda sucks in highway traffic. It'll go up to the low 60s mph and then the rev/speed limiter will come on and the bike will start jerking around. The power will cut out until you are going slow enough and then kick in again. This isn't so bad on level roads but coming down a big hill there really is no reason for the drive system to start doing that.
I'm positive it's coming but as things have changed behind the scenes due to the ongoing rona mess, after making this video, it may be another year (2024 model year) before the 160 makes it here to the USA. Just my opinion though so take it with a grain of salt ;)
Ok I just bought my adv 150 AND added some performance parts to make it faster and it only cost me 250.00 and all honesty I think it as fast as the adv 160 that's coming out.....now I'm 6'0 tall 290 pounds and it hauls ass I love the seat height and the cheap upgrades I would hate from them to lower the seat height but the real question is will it be the same price OR be more if so I'll keep my adv 150
Hi - I would very much like it if Honda would add a rear disc brake with ABS to the new ADV160. If there is still a dumb-drum brake back there in 2023, I will pass again. I am still waiting even more patiently for either the Forza 300/350 or an ADV300/350 as I do NOT think Honda will ever give us touring riders that are older and cannot hold up our GL1800s anymore a suitable touring scooter! I sold my 'Wing and now have a Ram Diesel instead but a Forza or ADV in 300cc/350 cc with ABS front and rear and 4 gallon (or more!) tank would suit me fine. Any news on that, Kevin? I am also now a subscriber having received your email for some time now. Thanks!
lol yeah, that's a difficult one to say the least! Personally, I'd probably give the ADV a try since you already have a PCX. The ADV would open up the door of being able to swerve off of paved roads and do a little exploring that you wouldn't have done otherwise and she still feels just as at home on the pavement, so you wouldn't really be losing much there when compared to the PCX. Definitely one to put some thought into though!
I was hoping Honda would upgrade the ADV. I want something easy to ride but not so small I feel like I'm going to get run over. My Ruckus is fun around town but I don't dare ride it near Walmart.
Ohhh yeah, I hear ya on not wanting to go near a Walmart on a Ruckus lol! People don't pay any attention these days and being on a smaller bike just makes it worse. I wish we could put drivers on a bike for a day or two and let them almost get ran over a few times to see that they need to pay more attention while driving. Nobody seems to care about other people's lives anymore it seems but then again, did they ever haha?
Great scooter 4 coffee n the beach , th only problem Honda only gives Dealers 2 or 3 n they charge $2.000 + , come on Honda Build a few more of the bikes hat sell n a few less of the ones U dont ! thanks Kevin !
As someone who just bought a adv 150 two weeks ago and dropped another $1000 in upgrades on it, I'm not too happy. I knew this would happen. Makes me so mad.
Congrats on your new ADV! I wouldn't sweat it too much though. It'll be a while before these make it to the US and in the timeframe, you'll get to have a blast on yours and thanks to the whole rona mess, bikes are holding their values better than ever. So that way if you find that you love the ADV150 but want the features and extra power of the 160, you'll be able to upgrade without losing as much as you would pre-rona value craziness lol. But then again, you may find that you'd rather try something else by the time they release here. I completely understand your frustration though, there is nothing worse than spending your hard-earned money to then find out a better version just released, it's something we all dread, no doubt about it! Positive thoughts, positive thoughts lol ;)
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@@rodneysherwin4489 Everywhere else they call it the Honda Dream. Seems like the US in more of the Honda Prayer class, because our chances of getting what the world gets is pretty low.
Hey kevin do you like your ADV and what did you spend $1000 on in Upgrades? I’ve had 300 motorcycles and I’m going back in to scooters more & more I currently have a 2016 genuine buddy 170i and a 02 CBR 600 F4 I both low miles. But I believe I would buy the 2023 ADV I just wish it would come in metallic cream
I'd love to see American Honda gives those two models a shot here in the states and see how well they'd do! We don't have any more "big bore" scooters and there's still a market for them, that is continuing to grow thanks to rising fuel costs.
I think American Honda is weary of bringing it over due to the price tag it would demand and how well it would be accepted, due to that. Personally, I'd love to see them bring it over though! Depending on how well they could price it of course, I think it'd sell pretty well.
I almost have decided to go with ADV150 as my first bike. But now knowing this is coming, this will be my first bike. It's highway legal in California with added 10cc! This is another good issue.
That's great news! I'm still holding out for the ADV350 release here in the States, but it's anyone's guess if that will happen or not. It looks like Honda ticked all of the boxes to upgrade the minor shortcomings of the ADV150 on this new model.
Slightly lower seat, much cleaner digital dash, taller windscreen, and a wider leg shield will make huge differences in usability for most riders. Those points were the particular ones that I touched upon in my PCX versus ADV video about a year ago. Well done Honda! 😉👍 --QM
lol yeah, we might be holding our breathe indefinitely on that ADV350 release here in the states - if it's not announced in our next round of announcements coming in the next few months.
Yessir, they definitely did well on ticking some of the boxes where it could stand to be tweaked a bit. It really does make this quite the package. I really wish they could find a way to keep it priced under that $4k mark but beggars can't be choosers as we're already limited enough when it comes to scooter options here in the states.
Appreciate the support as always QM ;)
@@HondaProKevin I 2nd the ADV350!!!! If the 160 can do 75 MPH with me on it?? - Good luck on getting one if it does come out...I sat in a que for several Honda's and after a year of waiting...I finally dropped out.
I hope they release the 350
Just put my deposit for the 160. Wish they had a 250 cc option.
I'm not huge on scooters, but I think the ADV definitely has the best style that grabs my attention. It's something I'd seriously consider
I’m hoping for the ADV 350 to come to the US. If it does, we’ll have the color choice of red or red.
Looking to upgrade my 2006 Reflex 250 and saw this at the dealer today....nice looking scooter, great review. Thank You just what I was looking for.
Great improvements over the ADV150 Honda but please tell your dealers not to add a markup. MSRP plus standard destination and dealer prep is enough. My local dealer just tacked on a $2,000 mark up on almost all their bikes! That’s a good way to turn off customers. There is NO justification to gouging $2,000 on a $4,299 scooter.
Nice. Love the color. Glad I waited.
As an owner of Adv 150, the additional 10cc increment and a small increase in HP and torque wouldn't be enticing enough for me to upgrade. I'll keep using the 150 for what it's intended for -- a run-around vehicle to-and-fro the neighborhood stores and for inner city commute.
Is it hard to ride on light off road?
@@ninjaoftherift1620 No it's very stable, thanks to its low CG.
I had the opportunity to see and feel the ADV 350 while in Greece . I wish we could get the other ADV models that are bigger and better.
Looks Cool. I am lusting after the 350 though. Wish we can get that one in the US.
I owned a red Honda Elite scooter and I wish I would have never sold it. So much fun and super easy to ride. I’m buying the Honda ADV 160 scooter as soon as it comes out. Even if it’s not red.
The second I’m allowed to drop a deposit on this, I am. I have 2 groms and was close to getting an ADV150 till I found out about the possibility of a 160 in the states. I WANT THIS BIKE ! Hurry up already !
I want the 150/160 adv for trails at parks light weight and fits in a pick-up. A vacation trail scooter with some power but quite. The 10 percent power bump is great news. I want the Aprilla sr gt 200 with 174cc or the Honda 150 adv with 149cc. But since the sr gt 200 didn't come to America this yr. Honda 160 will do just fine.
Bummer on the seat hight, at 6'4" I liked the seat on the 22 abv150. I like that matte red over the gloss. I am most concerned about the weight, hopefully it is same(ish) My plan is to use on RV for fun and utility when at camp. And when not, it is a great commuter as well. I was dead set on the trail 125 but the lack of speed didn't makes sense enough for the nostalgia factor.
The changes they made are so good for a model that's just released a few years ago.
somehow they managed to changed the look of the fairings, increase storage space, make changes to windshield, handlebars and seat height, and brought their engine from PCX to the ADV.
I was planning to get Tricity 155 but the changes was so minor it wasn't even worth the extra wheel for stability, imma just get the ADV 160 and fit a pair of City Grip 2 on it for wet weather.
Hits the sweet spot for Honda motor bikes/motor scooters. Unfortunately, dealers are racking on $2,000 mark ups because of “the perfect storm”, low supply and high demand fueled by high fuel and vehicle prices. My fellow scooter riders are a frugal bunch and refuse to pay $8,000 for a scooter that has an MSRP under $5,000. I would say to all consumers out there DO NOT pay over MSRP to these greedy dealers and send them a message consumers will not tolerate price gouging just because they think they can get away with it. Great scooter but will not pay the mark up.
Yes, I'm excited about it. I live in Iowa. If my dealer gets one, it's as good as sold.
Unfortunately the ADV 150 just carried over to 2023 and not even a different color. Just Rose Red. It would be nice to get a ADV350 or even a 250 if Honda can just make a business case to bring the motor bike here to America. Maybe offer it in two color choices as well such as silver and black. Judging from all the comments below and on other videos and sites the demand is high for anything above the ADV150 in America. Obviously Honda is deeply focused on the British and Southeast Asian and South American markets leaving North Americans with low displacement scooter options. Please wake up Honda and look at the demand that is out there. Bring a 250 or 350 cc ADV scooter to America. It will sell here. It is not a Silverwing or a Forza.
Their last attempt of bringing a higher displacement scooter to the US was the 2014 - 2015 Forza. It didn’t sell well so it had a limited run. It seems every so often they try selling a maxi scooter here and it doesn’t do well, particularly after the first year.
Bring. It. On.
Very nice! where is the 350?
I just bought the 2022 ADV150 and I pick it up tomorrow. I’m good with it and not interested in the 2023 at this point. Plus I’m moving to Thailand in 2 years and will be looking at the scooters a little bigger than a 160 when I get there. Should be a lot more to choose from. Side note: There aren’t many of these out there. I think I bought one of the last few in my state. Maybe the very last one. Hard to find without driving a ways.
Gonna trade my Navi in for this when it comes out!
Just bought a new 2023 ADV the end of January 2023 and it is still the 150A model made in August of 2022. It is a great bike for island living in Florida. My local dealer had just gotten it in and may not get another for months. Perhaps the ADV 160 will arrive as a 2024 model later this year?
Cool; I'd buy that.
Thanks for the video Kevin! I have a 2021 Honda ADV150 (Silver and Black) and I'm enjoying it. I actually like the fact that the ADV160 sits lower for more stability, especially for those who are shorter in stature. I'm waiting for the dealership to get one in so I can throw my short leg around it too! ;) Did I see the ADV160 has duel disk brakes? ✌
Yessir and thank you for watching!
Heck yeah! The ADV150 is a blast to rip around on for sure and the 160 really is a nice step in the right direction for the platform. Yeah, the 160 has disks front / rear but so did the 150... well, except for in the US lol! For some odd reason American Honda brings the 150 in with a drum out back and I have yet to figure out the exact reasoning behind that decision. Here's to hoping we don't get a "downgrade" again when it comes time to start bringing the 160 over here. Ultimately, it's not that big of a deal but still...
I'm getting one for my commute here in London.
Bring back the Honda helix for the third time. I have a 2007 helix, last year it was produced. No rider modes , no frills , just a great Maxi scoot/commuter. Everyone loves the foot brake on a scooter. 250cc 75 mph and 70 mpg. I'd buy another one in a minute.
lol yeah buddy, I was selling those things new back in the day and yeah... it may have been ugly to most and still stuck in the 80s/90s but it was the most comfortable scooter I've ridden to date lol!
Everyone that's owned a Helix, loves them - no doubt about it.
@@HondaProKevin love my helix I bought only 2 weeks ago but I want it to run and be road worhty 😂
@@HondaProKevin love my helix I bought only 2 weeks ago but I want it to run and be road worhty 😂
Waiting for one to arrive in Mississippi USA
I was ready to buy a XR150L and my friend talked me out of it and suggested the ADV 160. Got it the other day and riding this has to be the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
I'll go with the ADV 350
When is this expected. Was going to buy the 150, but can't get any dealer fees waived, so I may wait. About the same price as the 2022?
Nice look😍😍😍
Yeaaah buddy!
If they'd put the other 190cc on it I bet they'd sell a lot better here.
I'm sure Honda figures these are perfect for urban areas where the majority of people in the world live, and they're spot on.
But urbanites in USA are not the same as Thais or Japanese or Vietnamese.
When's the last time you seen rows of little scooter sized parking spots in an American city?
Have they seen size of our trucks and SUVs?
We need scoots sized for our larger backsides to cruise at highway speed for our commutes.
ADV line matches the faux offroad aesthetic we tend to love, but we need more than 160cc.
Oh yeah, 100%!
You're spot on there, we need some larger scooter options here in the states. Now that we no longer have the Silverwing 600, Forza 300 and all of the rest that came before them - we have nothing to choose from if you want something larger than a 160 and it's been that way for quite a few years now, which is baffling. I'd love to talk with some of the people making these decisions at American Honda and see why they do this or that when it comes to picking which models to import and why they don't bring X but will bring Y and Z over etc. It'd have to be a super interesting conversation as you would think there's a lot of research behind these decisions.
@@HondaProKevin It's the same reasons the company I work for doesn't bring the models to the US that enthusiasts keep asking for, enthusiasts don't equal paying customers.
I just think in the scooter segment they miscalculated where the market is. My guess is they figure if the scooter market is gonna take off it'll be driven by practical things like gas prices, so 110 Navi, PCX/ADV160, Metro, that's the barometer to see if there's an appetite. Then someday we might grow into maxi-scooters. But these bikes are not practical in the States. If they can't carry a 250lb rider at highway speeds they'll never be any more that a 3rd vehicle bought just for fun, or a lifestyle purchase. And as long as our politicians are content with wrecking the economy fewer people will be buying a 3rd vehicle of any type.
If you want a useable bike for commuting, the 500cc bikes can do 70mpg and keep up with traffic with a 250lb rider. Throw on a set of boxes and you can haul enough stuff for most people. If you can only have 1 vehicle for your family, it's never gonna be a bike in the US. You can get a hybrid RAV4 that gets 50+ mpg, drive it anywhere, with AC, and storage, and even take your spouse if you're not into peace and quiet.
Scooters are doomed in the US if the manufacturers don't go back to the board room and rethink the segment. If they're trying to solve a problem, is the current scooter the best way to solve it? If it's a lifestyle purchase or a toy, is it exciting and fun enough to justify the cost? The need to stop trying to push the same products we've already rejected
What about the Yamaha Xmax 300?
X-Adv 750cc? or Adv 350?
@@riceburner6739 the 750 is a pricey machine so I doubt we'll ever see it in the States where scooters are generally seen as cheap wheels for college kids or toys.
Will it be available in Australia in 2023?
@HondaProKevin where can we avail the Honda ADV 160 in the US? as much as I want the ADV 350, kinda impossible. And planning to import that ADV 160 here in Canada. hopefully everything works well.
Yes, I like the changes on the ADV! Honda, please offer 2 color choices like a black or charcoal and silver like Sword Silver if it is just one color choice. Please no more red.
I did not see a price, is that information coming later?
What you know if this scooter would be a good fit for a 5:11 in height driver
sweet do you have a guess at release date? I just bought a supercub for one son, and today i bought a z125 for my other son. Looks like I'm getting a adv 160 for me!
Have a 22PCX (use for daily driver) and will be adding a 23ADV160 as soon as they show… love the new motor it has noticeable power/speed increase… Honda please bring the WHITE color to the USA
Aye that's the 160 cc version which officially launched in Jakarta, Indonesia last Friday (July 1st, 2022). Really hypes here.
I am going to take one the ABS version for my self, maybe the black or red matte one. Personally, I wish to get the glossy version but it's sad, they just come for CBS version.
you could always custom paint and design, but you need to spend extra for paint and registration of modified vehicles.
We need the 350...
Ive been waiting for this announcement. Glad I waited. Have you heard any news of the new cbr600rr coming to the states?
Yeah buddy, sometimes waiting a bit can pay off for sure!
Sadly, nothing concrete on that front. As each year passes though, it's looking more and more grim...
Careful what you wish for. Namely if it's anything like Australia you'll need to sell a kidney because it's practically double the cost for the new 600RR.
Thus I'd gladly trade places with you getting the previous version at a reasonable consumer cost.
Would be nice to see Honda expand the ADV scooter line to the ADV250 & ADV160 with multiple color choices. There is a demand here in America and Honda is too focused on other parts of the world.
I honestly want the xadv 750 instead. What a waste to not even do the 350 either...
I need one in my life
What's the mpg on the old Adv 150?
Still dream of the X-Adv 750 with DCT.
The Adv350 would be nice too here in the USA.
American Honda doesn't advertise MPG for the ADV150 but it's rated at 40 km/l around the world which comes out to 94 MPG. The ADV160 is rated at 45 km/l which equals about 105 MPG so definitely a nice little bump there. I meant to talk about that in the video but apparently, I forgot lol!
Oh yeah, I think the ADV350 would sell very well here in the USA! The X-ADV would be awesome, but I think it might be a hard sell for the $$ it would cost here in the USA. I think it'd be super interesting to see the numbers and talk to the people making the decisions as to why or why not American Honda will import X model but not Y or Z model etc and how they determine which ones to "try" out here in the states.
I really want the 350. I’d trade my rebel 300 and pcx150 for it then get the rebel 1100 or nt1100.
@@HondaProKevin Nope, the adv150 is rated at 50 km/l
I drive mine around 45 mph last tank I got 101mpg the worst I got was 90mpg
No sale en españa?
I'm from the U.S. but living abroad in Thailand. I just bought this new ADV 160 it's so much cheaper in Thailand than the U.S. This is the first moderately sized motorbike I've ridden in 30 years I'm amazed how much the technology has changed. This ADV is like riding a rocketship compared to my old 84 Kawasaki 750 LTD. Yes, I know the ADV is just a "scooter" but it's an unbelievable ride it's flawless in many ways. Very smooth acceleration, simple turning, tight suspension it feels like this bike can go anywhere. If I was in the U.S. I'd get the smoky gray color, it's by far the best. Don't even consider the PCX 160.
I wouldn’t say don’t even consider the PCX 160, it is very similar in every aspect. The PCX is geared more towards riding on pavement. It’s more a matter of style choice really. I have a 2022 PCX (160), picked one up with 500 miles on it recently, saved about $1500. Vs new.
@@Ethan.s.. You got a great deal, it's so expensive to buy new in the U.S. I've got friends that ride the Forza 350 man that is the Rolls Royce of scooters, and it sells cheaper in Thailand than a new 160 in U.S. However, it is nice to have a smaller scooter here in Thailand as there are so many millions of cars and bikes on the road we get to go to squirm in between cars/trucks/ and go to the front of the line at stoplights. Still, I'm looking to buy a 2nd bike, the Royal Enfield 411 is a nice little motorcycle that I'm interested in. Honda has a CL500 model here it's nice but to me a little boring it sells for around 6K here I think it'd be over 7K in the U.S. after tax. Congrats on your PCX 160!
I bought a trade in with 850 miles on it for 4485 out the door and I love it! Like a mini goldwing.
@hondaprokevin SouthernPowersports has an ADV listed on their website, it states 2023 but their listing and the carfax also states150cc. Are these showing up in dealerships now or will they be 2024's?🤔
Yes sir, sadly they've been pushed back a model year by American Honda. It shouldn't come as much of a surprise though as that's been a common theme the last few years on a lot of models, with us not getting the updated version until 1-2 model years later. It's beyond crazy in my opinion but it's coming, we just have to wait a bit longer.
If you're bored, here's the video I posted shortly after this particular video, where I dive into the official release from American Honda for the 2023 ADV: czcams.com/video/2-ghvE_ycIw/video.html
Side note. Just noticed you signed up to be a member, I can't say thank you enough for the support bud! I wish I could do more than just say "thanks" to show my appreciation, whether it be by shaking your hand or giving you a hug or something lol. But in all seriousness, I really appreciate you helping to keep this train chugging along. Thank you...
Still waiting for the release of the ADV160 for us here in the USA 🇺🇸. Any news yet
Great news but would like to see the ADV 350 hit the USA.
I do not understand the ABS Antilock Braking System versus combined braking system.
My Honda ADV-150 bikes have the left hand brake lever operating the rear brake only, which does NOT have ABS. The right hand brake lever operates the front brake only, that does have ABS.
It is my understanding that our Honda PCX-160 bikes have ABS on the front wheel only. The front lever also applies some braking to the rear wheel as combined braking. As I cannot read the Thai language service manual I do not know which lever operates 60% front and 40% rear braking.
So there is ABS on the front wheel, and combined braking on both wheels, on the PCX
The height and arrangement of our older ADV-150 bikes made them handle more like touring bikes. The new ADVs seem to be more like the PCX bikes. I noticed no knobby tyres, so it is a sealed road bike now, rather than a unseal road and tracks bike.
I believe Australia is demanding ABS on front and rear wheels to comply with motor transport safety regulations.
Can you/anyone confirm that the ADV 160 model being marketed in the US does NOT have the idle-stop function? Looking at other videos and online owners manual, it appears that certain 160's are being produced with it. My second question is whether this function can be disengaged to ride. I'm having to decide in a couple of weeks whether to trade my ADV 150 for a 160 and this feature would be a deal breaker for me unless it can be disengaged.
Did I miss the USA release date or has it happened? Thx
July 2023 per an article today 05/31/2023
im really hoping the will bring the x-adv 750 that thing sounds mean and looks mean too, i sure am tho gonna get the adv160 for my first bike i wounder what the top speed will be cuz i would love to see if i could ride around the country with it see how it handles.
I've been thinking about getting a motorcycle/ scooter and I really like the look of the adv150 (Honda please bring the x adv to the us) but as a bigger guy I'm not sure if 160ccs would be enough to keep up with traffic, although I would just ride it to work and back and I hardly ever experience traffic on my 10mile drive to work
To be honest, the honda adv 150 kinda sucks in highway traffic. It'll go up to the low 60s mph and then the rev/speed limiter will come on and the bike will start jerking around. The power will cut out until you are going slow enough and then kick in again. This isn't so bad on level roads but coming down a big hill there really is no reason for the drive system to start doing that.
I’d love to see an automatic Honda GROM with this engine.
Honda made an automatic Grom, they call it Navi.
How bout the 350?
I want one in Matte White ...USA
Do you guys think the atv lineup might change for 2023? I'm planning on buying a foreman but I feel like I should wait for the 23 models
How positive is this information? I’m saving up right now and would probably wait for a adv 160.
I'm positive it's coming but as things have changed behind the scenes due to the ongoing rona mess, after making this video, it may be another year (2024 model year) before the 160 makes it here to the USA. Just my opinion though so take it with a grain of salt ;)
Ok I just bought my adv 150 AND added some performance parts to make it faster and it only cost me 250.00 and all honesty I think it as fast as the adv 160 that's coming out.....now I'm 6'0 tall 290 pounds and it hauls ass I love the seat height and the cheap upgrades I would hate from them to lower the seat height but the real question is will it be the same price OR be more if so I'll keep my adv 150
Where do I get parts for it I'm gonna check out one this weekend
Wanted highe clearance for off road
Hi - I would very much like it if Honda would add a rear disc brake with ABS to the new ADV160. If there is still a dumb-drum brake back there in 2023, I will pass again. I am still waiting even more patiently for either the Forza 300/350 or an ADV300/350 as I do NOT think Honda will ever give us touring riders that are older and cannot hold up our GL1800s anymore a suitable touring scooter! I sold my 'Wing and now have a Ram Diesel instead but a Forza or ADV in 300cc/350 cc with ABS front and rear and 4 gallon (or more!) tank would suit me fine. Any news on that, Kevin? I am also now a subscriber having received your email for some time now.
Thanks!
That rear drum brake is there for a reason. Trust me...i ride a LOT of dirt roads everyday on mine.
I'm buying it hurry up HONDA!
T 2 T,, TIME 2 TRAIL > C T 160 HUNTER CUB , WOULD BE IDEAL , IN A SNOW WHITE COLOUR
Decisions decisions. Can’t decide which to replace my 2015 pcx150 with. Adv160 or pcx160 now that we get both in the us.
lol yeah, that's a difficult one to say the least! Personally, I'd probably give the ADV a try since you already have a PCX. The ADV would open up the door of being able to swerve off of paved roads and do a little exploring that you wouldn't have done otherwise and she still feels just as at home on the pavement, so you wouldn't really be losing much there when compared to the PCX. Definitely one to put some thought into though!
Cool scooter, seems like are local Honda dealer is having problems get any street legal machines in......
I was hoping Honda would upgrade the ADV. I want something easy to ride but not so small I feel like I'm going to get run over. My Ruckus is fun around town but I don't dare ride it near Walmart.
Ohhh yeah, I hear ya on not wanting to go near a Walmart on a Ruckus lol! People don't pay any attention these days and being on a smaller bike just makes it worse. I wish we could put drivers on a bike for a day or two and let them almost get ran over a few times to see that they need to pay more attention while driving. Nobody seems to care about other people's lives anymore it seems but then again, did they ever haha?
X-ADV 750 is bigger(also pricier), makes the adv150/160 look like a goat beside a cow. I haven't seen the adv350 version yet.
I want to see the new Monkey bikes for 2023 and what colors we'll get
Top speed??? Gas mileage??
Honda shows the ADV150 on their website for 2023.
Yessir, I talk about the latest news regarding the ADV150 / 160 here in the USA in this video: czcams.com/video/OjuNqN_1hus/video.html
Great scooter 4 coffee n the beach , th only problem Honda only gives Dealers 2 or 3 n they charge $2.000 + , come on Honda Build a few more of the bikes hat sell n a few less of the ones U dont ! thanks Kevin !
How I order ADV 160 2023
As someone who just bought a adv 150 two weeks ago and dropped another $1000 in upgrades on it, I'm not too happy. I knew this would happen. Makes me so mad.
Congrats on your new ADV!
I wouldn't sweat it too much though. It'll be a while before these make it to the US and in the timeframe, you'll get to have a blast on yours and thanks to the whole rona mess, bikes are holding their values better than ever. So that way if you find that you love the ADV150 but want the features and extra power of the 160, you'll be able to upgrade without losing as much as you would pre-rona value craziness lol. But then again, you may find that you'd rather try something else by the time they release here. I completely understand your frustration though, there is nothing worse than spending your hard-earned money to then find out a better version just released, it's something we all dread, no doubt about it!
Positive thoughts, positive thoughts lol ;)
@@HondaProKevin lol thanks
AAHH SHUCKS, MURPHY'S LAW AGAIN !! T U KEVIN. .. I AM WAITING, HOPING, PRAYING> FOR 2023 C B 350 HIGHNESS ANNIVERSARY MODEL, OR A C L 250 SCRAMBLER.. LAST I HEARD, GOD STILL ANSWER, S PRAYERS IN 3 WAYS > 1. YES 2. NOOO 3. WAIT,, BUT GOD I HATE TO WAIT & YOU NO IT TOO.. lol
@@rodneysherwin4489 Everywhere else they call it the Honda Dream. Seems like the US in more of the Honda Prayer class, because our chances of getting what the world gets is pretty low.
Hey kevin do you like your ADV and what did you spend $1000 on in Upgrades? I’ve had 300 motorcycles and I’m going back in to scooters more & more I currently have a 2016 genuine buddy 170i and a 02 CBR 600 F4 I both low miles.
But I believe I would buy the 2023 ADV I just wish it would come in metallic cream
We will see how much it costs
Shame Honda doesn't import it to Scandinavia. Seems like it'd be an excellent fit for our climate and road conditions.
Looks like we aren't getting the 2023 adv160 in the usa, I just purchased a 2023 150
Yeah... sadly American Honda decided not to bring it over for 2023, leaving us to wait another year to get what the rest of the world has.
Somtimes it seems Honda is driving us to buy a Burger 400!
Or the yamaha xmax 300?
I want the adv or forza 350.
I'd love to see American Honda gives those two models a shot here in the states and see how well they'd do! We don't have any more "big bore" scooters and there's still a market for them, that is continuing to grow thanks to rising fuel costs.
My dad already have 2023 honda adv 160
Still don’t understand why USA don’t get the adv750
I think American Honda is weary of bringing it over due to the price tag it would demand and how well it would be accepted, due to that.
Personally, I'd love to see them bring it over though! Depending on how well they could price it of course, I think it'd sell pretty well.
Any idea on pricing?
If I was a betting man, I'd say around the $4,399 to $4,499 mark - give or take a dollar ;)
Thank you Sir!
It's now March 2023 - and no release date yet? What's up Honda?
Still not availble in USA
This hasn't been confirmed yet by American Honda right?
Correct ;)
Oh Yeah! Bring it ON!!!!!!!!! In this FLORIDA Heat.........I would prefer WHITE!
X-ADV PLEASE! At least, ADV350...
THIS WILL LAND SOON IN THE PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
adv350 would be choice Here in the states. 150 or 160 isn't enough to keep up on the roads safely
MSRP?
4500 plus shipping assembly taxes about 6000 dollars
@@newyorkbasshunter3552 thank you
Monkey, Trail 125, Navi, CL500, Rebel 500. And now ADV 160? What motorcycle does Honda make that I don't want?
I have a 21 monkey and I love it! I bought an and 160 and I love it too!
If I want to wait for armageddon, I’ll wait for the 350/160. I’d rather ride a PCX today.
You sound frightened.
Meh, deliver the 350 and I’ll look
They don't sell 160's
They will in July 2023
Honda if you're listening, I will put a deposit down on the ADV 350 as soon as a release date for north America is announced
Honda helix is king
Well I guess it's going to have a dumb drum back there. PASS.
I bought one and the drum brake works pretty good