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How To Repair Damaged DuraTex Speaker Coating
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- čas přidán 3. 04. 2019
- I go over the steps for how I repaired my damaged speakers with DuraTex speaker coating. Fixing DuraTex is a fairly simple process that can be done in a few hours.
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I've read several reviews of Duratex where people ruined their work by stacking their cabinets. The stuff never 100% cures enough to stack, it will always adhere together even after a few months. Perhaps baking them after the curing process will cure them fully.
Interesting... I was hoping after a while it would be ok but apparently not. Going to pin this so hopefully others will see. Thanks man
Great video Kyle. Very practical as well.
Thanks Youthman! Just glad they came out looking nice again
i friend, I see you from Russia , and just admire your approach to business and efforts. Good luck!!! Like for the video
Thank you!
So ist es richtig , Anfang bis ende👍👍
Life of Bliss I expected you to pull out a Sharpie blemish pen not to do a fancy spray job. Good work with the speakers dude :)
No blemish pens here 😉
I just redone a pair of Carpeted Peavey 118 subs......they were a mess....tore all the old fabric off, sanded it down and put on 2 coats of duratex....Looked awesome, ...UNTIL I stacked them up...Had the same experience......Have to touch the one up now.....I actually rolled mine on....
Sucks dude... how long did they cure before you stacked? I've had people say they've had no issues and other say they have.
@@LifeofBliss ...Only about 24 hours.... I was in a time crunch to get done. I did music for a High School Homecoming Dance and had 900 teenagers to entertain...
Still love to see these setup in place and running! 😀🤗👍🏻
Oh it's comin my friend. Been out of town, then computer issues... but Im working on the video for this week!
Life of Bliss excellent!! Can’t wait man!😂😂👍🏻👍🏻🤪🤪🤗🤗😜😜
Life of Bliss hopefully if you get abit of spare time , maybe you could check some of my vids out too? I tell everyone I babble a lot. Because I do 😂😂. But I do eventually get to the point😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻
Had the same thing happen on my HTM12 build. Was probably 10 ish days for mine. Fortunately the damage was to the bottoms so I said to heck with it!
Not good man... but yea I have some damage to the bottom of my center channel. You'll never see it though lol, so I did the same as you
What bummer, I can see in hindsight how it could happen. The fix looks good!
Thanks Greg!
Seems like some paints take a really long time to fully cure. I have painted subwoofers with Rust-Oleum Painters Touch - Ultra Cover Premium Latex Paint (Semi Gloss) 2 coats, and yes it takes a few months to fully cure rock hard. Once it does it comes out great, cheap and looks good. This paint isnt 100% scratch proof but it does when when fully dry.
Amazing, you're great
I need to see the stereo integrity 24 inch subs finished up and reviewed with a frequency response graph, as I'm eyeing the 24 inch for my sub. I built the titan 615lx and can't even believe how good they are and how loud they get with staying crystal clear.
Yea I'm getting around to those now. Going to build the easy box first and make a video with some demos and graphs. Those titans looked awesome. You must have a AT screen to put them behind?
I plan to add an AT screen in the future. for now I built custom boxes that allow me to place the center under my screen. I side mounted the waveguide for the center. The left and right have it top mounted. my boxes were built to net 5.5 cubic feet and when I demoed them in my basement they hit all the way to 27hz and by ear start to roll off at 34hz. I think 1-2 of the 24 inch woofers placed right behind the couch crossed at 50-60hz would be perfect. painting this week and have a Mini DSP mic to measure when its all done.
Heck yea man, that'll be sweet. You on AVS? Send me your build link if so. That's awesome response from those too! I need to run some more tests to see what I can get out of these 1299s. I don't think I had the receiver set quite right...
Just posted my Titan build on AVS, name on there is Dyter19 www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/3063968-finally-finished-my-titan-615lx-build.html. Ran some REW measurements that I posted, pretty big dip right at 53hz and large peak at 40hz, grrr. Need to start my subwoofer build soon. Glad I learned about the duratex sticking issue from you other wise I would have set the brackets right on top of my boxes. also yeah I think those 1299s you built should dig lower, on my receiver I just set them to large and they play full range.
In general paint takes a minimum of 30 days to cure.
It's true, I learned this putting my enclosure inside my bedroom because outside the cats would scratch it. The smell don't go away for weeks.
This is true. When i paint i let it cure for at least a month. This is how long some paints take for a full cure. Enamels take notoriously long. A good indicator is when the smell of the paint goes away 100%, some rack rails that i painted with a Gloss spray enamel took about 6 months to fully cure.
Would love to hear how those speakers sound. And those co-axial drivers you used in the surrounds - could they be used as full-range bookshelf speakers? Sort of like DIY Kef LS50s?
I've only had maybe 3 hours of listening time on them so far, but I can tell these will be amazing speakers... The Volts are very versatile speakers as well. Many have used them for bookshelves, surrounds, atmos, even main LCR as a somewhat compact speaker with great range and clarity. I will say if you used them as bookshelf you'd probably want to make the ported versions as they will dig down a bit deeper. The sealed version only goes down to around 70 Hz where as the ported goes down to 45 Hz.
Nice video. So is this stuff durable or not? I understand stacking them before fully curing is the issue here. But how well does it stand up to impact and abrasion over a latex or an enamel or say Hercules bedliner? Thanks for any feedback. Looking to build some DIY PA speakers for the road.
Bedliner would most likely stand up better to scratches or impacts. Different material/ purpose though. I haven't had any major things hit them, but I've knocked them with a few things here and there, as has my son. They look like the day I painted them. From what I've read, this stuff is very resistant to scratching, but like anything it will have its limits
@@LifeofBliss Good to know. Thanks, Kyle!
nice next video shold be were yougonna have them i waiting alot to se how it gonna be :D
Setup and sound demos coming soon 🤘🏼
So sorry to see the damage. I know you are a perfectionist and guess it still bothers you because you know where the patches are. ;)
Yea... I even repainted the tops of the surrounds which will never be seen since they had some flaws in them too lol
I like the easer of duratex and the protective coating. But how could I achieve the smooth finish like yours but with a roller?
You can use a short nap foam roller to get a smoother finish, but spraying will be smoother than any rolled finish
@@LifeofBliss True. I am still trying to decide on what finish. I have plenty of time to decide, I guess
@@aang6421 really just depends on preference, but spraying will take more time. There a bit more prep involved and you definitely need the space/tools to spray. My 15 gallon compressor barely kept up. I had to wait between spraying each tower/center to let it fill up so it wasn't constantly running the entire time spraying. Something to consider...
@@LifeofBliss Ah, then my option is roll on for duratex. I was debating on that or can spray paint
And in the last shots over the cabinet you can still see the damage..
I think the problem isn't the Duratex coating but your ground layer. It looks like the Duratex couldn't bound with the underlayer.
Could be... had others say the same thing happened applying to raw mdf as well. I think the duratex likes to stick to itself if not completely cured
Why would you have that size of speaker cabinets for a home theatre system?
Cause I had the room and they produce a much more accurate sound, especially at higher volumes. Big speakers, big sound. My 24 inch subs are incredible for movies as well
is this rubber paint.. sorry im looking for a removable paint for my home monitor speaker..can i use it on presonus E3.5
Nope, this is similar to bed liner for trucks, but not quite as durable or tough. You're looking for plastidip or similar products
@@LifeofBliss oh i see.. thank your for the respone☺️..
Hi Fella, Where can I buy those tweeter lenses from??
You can grab something similar from parts express, but the kit was from diy sound group
Teehee! Another diy speaker tip: always use rubber feet. I never had any problem stacking speakers
Oh yea, I have some for the center channel when I have my final setup with the subs. Never a bad idea. Thanks man!
Why did you choose to truck bed liner your home theatre speakers?
Duratex isn't quite truck bed liner. Similar look though. It is actually made and marketed specifically to coat speaker cabinets. But to answer your question, I wanted something that was flat black to reduce reflections from my projector or other light sources. It's also tough enough to withstand abuse my son may cause lol
cool, looks good. I have a projector too and everything reflects light in the room :D. @@LifeofBliss I want to build my own centre channel but everyone is in the USA, up here in Canada a $10 part cost me $25 :D. Parts express has been my go to in the past. Hopefully I can make a bang for your buck centre channel this summer and will keep this type of coating in mind.
That's tough man, sorry it's more expensive! This coating can also be rolled if you don't want to spray it. It'll just be a bit rougher. Regardless, if you use it, check out my last video on prepping before paint. These really turned out smooth with everything I did. Have a good one man
@@LifeofBliss will do. Keep up the posts and projects.
WHAT ARE MEASURES OF THESE TOWERS ?
I have a few other videos on these towers on my channel, but the have (2) 12 inch woofer, (2) 6.5 inch mids and 1 compression driver
You may have thinned the Duratex too much. This is straight from the manufacturer:
"The composition of DuraTex® will drastically be compromised if more than 5% of water in proportion to the amount of DuraTex® is added."
This could definitely be the cause of your adhesion problems.
Interesting. Did not see that part. I honestly don't know how much I watered it down percentage wise, like I said I guessed 5-10%. I was more going off of how it flowed off the stick and in the gun. I wouldn't think it would spray right out of an HVLP gun without getting it to a runny consistency... Appreciate the insight. That being said, there have been other who have rolled this stuff on that have the same issues. Many just don't stack them or wait a few months before doing so. There really hasn't been any adhesion issues or other issues with the coating itself outside of sticking to itself too well. Thanks man!
@@LifeofBliss The damage to the bottom of my HTM was from rolled on with zero thinning.
Nooo what did you do to my speaker? wait (Our Speaker).
Hahaha mistakes were made... but lessons were learned!
i hate when you work so hard on something and then you have to do it again
Dude... I was so mad at myself and depressed as soon as I pulled the first speaker off. But I gotta say this was much easier to repair than a lot of other finishes. It didn't take long and came out like new again
@@LifeofBliss well thats good that it was easier to repair it could of been worse like all the paint
also why is one sub facing up higher then the other
On the center channel I was painting? Or the surrounds in the background? The surrounds are different angles, I tried to make the inner dimensions as close as I could by adjusting the top and bottom depths. It'll make more sense in the next video when I install them in the room
Life of Bliss ok thanks for the info. I’m trying to make my own system some day. I like the input it helps a lot
how to fix duratex... lol buy 2 grand in car painting equipment and just repaint it......................
This stuff didn't cost 1/3 of 2 grand. But what did you expect to find watching this? A free fix? Gotta have tools to do projects 🙄