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Chapo Trap House (ft. Jefferson Morley): On the New JFK Documents (Dec 2022)

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  • @SteveScottRootsMusic
    @SteveScottRootsMusic Před rokem +38

    "I didn't kill anyone ... I'm just a patsy!" ~ Lee Harvey Oswald

    • @robertlyons3318
      @robertlyons3318 Před rokem +3

      Because anytime someone accused of murder says this, we automatically believe them.

    • @SteveScottRootsMusic
      @SteveScottRootsMusic Před rokem +8

      @@robertlyons3318 Nothing is ever automatic ... but it's always worth considering!

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 Před rokem +9

      So the Assassin gets assassinated before he gets a chance to talk on a live television broadcast?
      .... Mmm 😏

    • @robertlyons3318
      @robertlyons3318 Před rokem

      @@airmark02 Who then stops Ruby from talking. If Oswald had something to say about being innocent, he had more than enough time to talk before he was killed

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 Před rokem +9

      @@robertlyons3318 Your Naiveté about the chain of covert operations is amusing.
      Secrets are easy to keep.
      Truman had no idea about the development of the Atomic bomb until after FDR died & he was the vice-president.

  • @skeletorpfunk6342
    @skeletorpfunk6342 Před rokem +70

    These guys have zero chance of getting an Allen Dulles award

  • @NosyFella
    @NosyFella Před rokem +177

    There is nothing of interest in those documents. Trust me.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 Před rokem +14

      Ill tell people i trust you-just get me a CFR internship 😉

    • @Some_Average_Joe
      @Some_Average_Joe Před rokem +47

      Wow, that's such a relief. I can go back to mindlessly consuming products and not worrying about the world.

    • @jaydinledford6990
      @jaydinledford6990 Před rokem +22

      Wow, thank you mister Dulles! The devil's chessboard is a great book btw

    • @julymagnus493
      @julymagnus493 Před rokem +10

      Ok but in return for my trust I want you to make me the dictator of Guatemala. 🇬🇹 🇬🇹 🇬🇹

    • @chromeuser2213
      @chromeuser2213 Před rokem +6

      weed, beans, dollars, and pesos

  • @544CampStreet
    @544CampStreet Před rokem +18

    Thanks for covering this. Morley is an OG.

  • @nothing-2-live-4
    @nothing-2-live-4 Před rokem +27

    we love acid marxist, don’t we’re folks

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Před rokem

      LSD is distributed by capitalists, so the name is a contradiction.

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 Před rokem +111

    Finally, the world will see JFKs suicide note.

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 Před rokem +3

      You're saying he paid Oswald to shoot him? Intriguing.

    • @thomasgiles2876
      @thomasgiles2876 Před rokem +4

      @@ryans756 "Life's bullshit, I can't take it anymore" -The Dead Guy

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 Před rokem +4

      @@thomasgiles2876 I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest you might have cracked the case.

    • @jussihamalainen7692
      @jussihamalainen7692 Před rokem +2

      "Ha ha, what are they gonna do, shoot me?"

    • @clintondebogorski7955
      @clintondebogorski7955 Před rokem +2

      It was a blasting cap...Jack sewed one into his own forehead for the money shot...definitely a suicide!

  • @genxerfool9797
    @genxerfool9797 Před rokem +84

    Nah, the CIA would never do anything like that.

    • @AoE2Replays
      @AoE2Replays Před rokem +5

      LoL

    • @kxkxkxkx
      @kxkxkxkx Před rokem

      American counterintelligence agents like Hosty and Paine were tracking known KGB agents Lee and Marina Oswald, you dunce 🥳

    • @genxerfool9797
      @genxerfool9797 Před rokem +1

      @@kxkxkxkx whoosh!

    • @thechairman1024
      @thechairman1024 Před rokem +3

      Yeah u are right they are the good guys they protect us from the bad guys

    • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
      @fuckfannyfiddlefart Před rokem

      Oswald was a hero, and the deluded left who think that denying that is smart are just helping the LIBERALS.

  • @wackarnolds114
    @wackarnolds114 Před rokem +36

    Just listened to the full Poppy series this week in preparation for this day. Searching key words ‘mohrenschildt’

    • @drunkrumjack
      @drunkrumjack Před rokem

      Some loner washed out ex-Marine who traveled via 5 star hotels in Finland to Russia and associated with characters like David Ferrie, Clay Shaw, George Joannides, de Mohrenschildt and Guy Bannister. Oswald was likely a double agent for somebody and even that FBI agent Hosty keeping tabs on Oswald believed there was a "benign cover-up" to say the least.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem +1

      @@drunkrumjack, yes, Judyth Vary Baker spilled the beans on all of that. And the warning note Oswald allegedly passed to Hosty, which Hosty claims to have destroyed on orders from his supervisor, was likely a message from Oswald warning the FBI of the plot against the president in Dallas, just as he had warned of the plot in Chicago 20 days before.

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem

      @@pepp4560 "yes, Judyth Vary Baker spilled the beans on all of that."
      You mean she *claimed* to have spilled the beans on that. She is almost certainly a complete fraud. I'm guessing you have done practically zero research on her abysmal lack of credibility. I have discussed the evidence on that many times on the internet in detail for more than a decade and can easily do so again now if you'd like.

    • @thomassmith2091
      @thomassmith2091 Před rokem +1

      Read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker. The star of the Book was CIA in the beginning of the 1960's

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem

      @@thomassmith2091 "Read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker."
      Oh yes, Russ Baker, the man who falsely claimed, without a shred of credible evidence to support it, that George Bush Sr. said he didn't remember where he was on the day of the JFK assassination, when in fact there is no documentation of Bush ever making a statement even remotely similar to that. And some people have mindlessly repeated this myth without bothering to carefully check the original source of the myth for credibility. So I hope you'll forgive me if I don't find Russ Baker to be an especially credible person. And if he was provably wrong in this particular claim about Bush, what else did he get wrong in "Family of Secrets"?

  • @JoJo-vg8dz
    @JoJo-vg8dz Před rokem +56

    Only guilty people have something to hide.
    The cover-up of information is 100% proof of guilt.

    • @daltanionwaves
      @daltanionwaves Před rokem

      I remember when auditing elections was the normal healthy behavior of any free democratic society. Now you're an evil election denier if you want to audit any election results anywhere... Even though auditing an election would have no impact on which side wins or loses. Unless one side was committing fraud then it might change the results. But absent any fraud, it would only reinforce the results. But maybe our elections aren't as representative of the regular citizens as we think they are. Do you think there could ever be state actors with billions of dollars at their disposal that wouldn't use it to influence the outcome of an election that will directly impact their wealth and power? Because there's nothing in human psychology, human nature, that would allow a person to do something that selfish? There is already a great deal of hard evidence implicating the government intelligence agencies, in particular the Castro assassination program, as being involved in all of the activity around the killing of JFK, a democratically elected representative of the people. Did you know that 4 future US presidents happened to be in Dallas to witness the killing of a US president? What kind of message would that send to them? I wonder. Maybe nothing. Of course I understand why people don't want to believe that our government hasn't been meaningfully representative of the common citizen. If you're poorer than your parents and your grandparents, despite the nonlinear increase in wealth and the exponential increase in economic output largely due to technological innovation (not legislation). What if that's not by accident? What if that was by design? What if the government and the federal reserve have been passing laws, inflating the currency, consolidating corporations into monopolies instead of breaking them up, what if they did all of this stuff deliberately. I guess with the "Twitter Files" you'd have to be a moron not to see the deliberate transfer of wealth and coordinated propaganda campaign via social media by the FBICIA. The company that visited the white house more than any other company during Obama was Google. It's interesting. Guess who visits the current president the most? Nobody knows because he does most of his meetings out of his house in Delaware and they have flat denied to report it. Because obviously Biden is making all the hard choices himself, without outside influence. Any intelligent critical thinking person can see that............ 🙄

    • @ashleyvaughn4305
      @ashleyvaughn4305 Před rokem +1

      Yes, _only_ guilty people have something to hide. Like Corrie Ten Boom! Oh, wait.

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Před rokem +1

      @@ashleyvaughn4305 What's with the condescension for an absolutely correct point, Mikaela?

    • @josephososkie3029
      @josephososkie3029 Před rokem +1

      That was true possibly before Media spin. Journalist standards have been watered down to the point that all reporting and especially editing, is an operation of The Party.

    • @KarlKrogmann
      @KarlKrogmann Před rokem

      This is a fucking train wreck of bad thinking, muddy logic, and abject stupidity.

  • @josephososkie3029
    @josephososkie3029 Před rokem +3

    “Mistakes were made”. That’s a wonderful catch. There is a gigantic paradigm shift in political thinking hanging over all of this.

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 Před rokem +11

    If you guys DO find some cool info in the documents HOPEFULLY you can make an update!!!

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 Před rokem +8

    Oswald was a lone nut--Mrs J Edgar Hoover.

    • @steverakes1089
      @steverakes1089 Před rokem

      Hoover said we have made Oswald a lone shooter because he looks at any evidence. He had a 140 IQ w

    • @steverakes1089
      @steverakes1089 Před rokem

      Why would he say that because knowing all the facts, Oswald worked for the CIA!

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Před rokem

      lol

  • @owensullivan4708
    @owensullivan4708 Před rokem +8

    Power never prosecutes itself.

  • @adamkaminski6435
    @adamkaminski6435 Před rokem +24

    Hell yeah dude.

  • @Blake_.Dryden
    @Blake_.Dryden Před rokem +20

    How did Oswald get to Russia and then back into the US at the height of the Cold War as a regular ol’ communist Jose? Just a stroke of luck I suppose

    • @technologic21
      @technologic21 Před rokem +1

      He took a flight from Mexico.

    • @ChinDulles
      @ChinDulles Před rokem +1

      Thru Finland allegedly

    • @Blake_.Dryden
      @Blake_.Dryden Před rokem +5

      Are you saying that an American citizen could've fairly easily traveled to and from the USSR during the height of the cold war by way of neutral countries without drawing huge suspicion from, and being closely surveilled by the CIA, DoD, NSA, and other US Intelligence agencies? They would've known every minute detail concerning these flights and the individuals who took them.

    • @bobdecarlo7778
      @bobdecarlo7778 Před rokem +1

      Nothing stranger than the truth.

    • @Sean-pk2rg
      @Sean-pk2rg Před rokem +3

      It's a very good point , , after defecting he simply came back and the whole thing was forgotten , , very nice of the authorities to be so helpful , , patsy for sure

  • @Zickafoose2024
    @Zickafoose2024 Před rokem +7

    Why not do the interview after the records were looked at?

  • @-xirx-
    @-xirx- Před rokem +18

    Stephen Hager an investigative journalist who is releasing several yt videos about jfk at the moment. Very interesting and well researched.

  • @kjnest
    @kjnest Před rokem +5

    Someone should pull a watergate and get those documents!!

  • @genecraig8626
    @genecraig8626 Před rokem +2

    The presidents car was blue. Until Johnson painted it black

  • @Barquivius
    @Barquivius Před rokem +33

    I er uh am gay

  • @marshallmcgowen4889
    @marshallmcgowen4889 Před rokem +5

    Someone need to go to jail I don't care who it is the truth will come out someday I hope before I die

  • @rollymulligan8039
    @rollymulligan8039 Před rokem +2

    Great clear audio & presentation ,keep it up! T
    The walls are tumbling down! JR to soon return in "Major Roll"!

  • @Greg042869
    @Greg042869 Před rokem +6

    George HW Bush couldn't recall where he was when he heard that JFK was shot.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem +1

      Correct. He and Richard Nixon both gave conflicting answers. We know, however, that both were in Dallas that day.

    • @wtmerit6129
      @wtmerit6129 Před rokem

      His wife, Barbra Bush, in her 1994 Memoir book published a letter she had written in 1994 to a friend as the Bush's were circling Lovefield waiting for Johnson to leave with Kennedy's body on board so they could land. Nixon had left two hours before and Bush came in two hours after. Hard to get that many Presidents together at one time for Inaugurations or funerals let alone assassinations.
      The book, revealing Bush41 where abouts on that day was released 6 months after Jacqueline Kennedy died. Wonder what she would have thought knowing Bush41 was there in Dallas on that day with Johnson and Nixon.

    • @michaelrussell7854
      @michaelrussell7854 Před rokem

      George W. Bush was speaking at a Smith County GOP Luncheon at The Blackstone Hotel, in Tyler, Texas. It was 90 miles east of Downtown Dallas.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem +1

      @@michaelrussell7854, it's George H. W. Bush, and that's the story, reportedly confirmed by at least one witness. Also, his threat tip to the FBI regarding James Parrott that afternoon claimed he was calling from Tyler, TX. But that same FBI report states that Bush left the name and phone number of the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas for where he could be reached that day for any further details.
      A somewhat blurry photo of individuals held for questioning at the stairs to the Texas School Book Depository shows GHWB's doppelgänger. A Dallas Deputy Sheriff held for questioning an unnamed "Houston area independent oil man" picked up suspiciously loitering inside the Dal-Tex Building across the street, where the CIA had a front company with a window offering a perfect enfilading position on the motorcade in a trajectory nearly that of the Southeast corner of the TSBD. The unnamed man was soon released after pleading that he'd merely ducked into the building to borrow a phone. Soon afterwards, another suspicious individual was held by Dallas law enforcement. He, too, had been found loitering in the Dal-Tex Building. He, too, was released after he claimed he'd merely ducked in to borrow a phone. This time, though, his name was recorded, as Jim Braden. Later he was identified as a mafioso named Eugene Brading.
      Two days later, J. Edgar Hoover filed a memo regarding the U.S. Cuban community's reaction to the news of the president’s assassination. A copy was addressed to "George Bush of the CIA." The memo surfaced at the time of GHWB's nomination for a second presidential term, but only on Page 22. A spokesperson said it must have been a different Bush. The CIA had, indeed, once hired someone else by the name, but that individual denied ever having any involvement with Hoover, the Cuban community, or really anything of note, having held a very junior position.
      GHWB served as CIA director only one year, and yet the CIA building in Langley is named after him. His biographers today increasingly concede that he had extensive involvement with CIA. He was recruited into the CIA out of Yale, created the Zapata Offshore Oil exploration company with a partner who was also CIA, and helped organize the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Zapata built an oil drilling platform midway between the Bay of Pigs and the training grounds for Cuban exiles in the Florida Everglades. Ships to transport the invading force were rechristened the BARBARA and the HOUSTON. The CIA codename for the Bay of Pigs invasion was later revealed as Operation Zapata.
      Oswald handler George DeMohrenschildt wrote to his former friend Bush when GHWB was CIA director, asking him to intercede with the government to "call off its dogs" who were following him. Bush denied he was a federal target. DeMohrenschildt reportedly then killed himself with a shotgun at the time he was subpoenaed to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
      While eulogizing Gerald Ford as a man of honesty (which was why we should believe the Warren Report), Bush couldn’t suppress a grin while speaking of the "lone, deranged gunman " who killed JFK.
      I've met and worked for W. and Laura, Poppy and Barbara. They seemed like good, personable folk. I may have been fooled. GHWB once reputedly remarked to reporter Sarah MacClendon: "Sarah, if the American people knew what we'd done, they'd chase us down the street and lynch us." In this case, perhaps we should have taken Bush at his word.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Před rokem

      and he was in dallas

  • @dicksteele69
    @dicksteele69 Před rokem +8

    The Oswald communication to the embassies is old, old news. The agencies don't believe it was Oswald on the phone and the CIA have no photos of Oswald at the embassies. Oswald spoke perfect Russian. That is how he and his wife communicated.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem +1

      Right. I was surprised Morley didn’t mention that. Hoover is recorded telling LBJ the voice wasn’t Oswald's. This poses two questions: 1) did Oswald really go to Mexico City, and 2) who would be impersonating Oswald in Mexico?

    • @dicksteele69
      @dicksteele69 Před rokem

      @@pepp4560 Probably the same guy who impersonated him at the shooting range and car dealership.

    • @bernardfong1019
      @bernardfong1019 Před rokem

      There was photo of a fake, fat Oswald.

    • @dicksteele69
      @dicksteele69 Před rokem

      @@bernardfong1019 evidently there are no photos of Oswald at the embassy. The crack CIA were changing camera systems, supposedly. The description of Oswald by the embassy staff is not the Dallas Oswald.

  • @landryprichard6778
    @landryprichard6778 Před rokem +6

    Nothing is going to happen. This will go on forever. Go outside. Grow a garden. Fall in love. Sing a song. Write a poem. Save your soul.

    • @swclar99
      @swclar99 Před rokem

      AND.....bury your head in that garden!🤣🤣

    • @landryprichard6778
      @landryprichard6778 Před rokem +1

      @@swclar99 Point taken. And valid. But, at my age, I see the same cycles again and again. I will now bury my heads...in actually living...and not devouring depressing hot takes.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem

      All good advice. But I swore an oath. I also have a duty. And yet I've no idea how to fulfill it.

  • @HoldHisHeadSteady
    @HoldHisHeadSteady Před rokem +1

    Jackie , the French assassin did it!

  • @georgeperillo6421
    @georgeperillo6421 Před rokem +4

    You also don't hear about the bullet hole in the windshield.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Před rokem

      true. it was estroyed in chicago on the following monday. people at hospital saw them too...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před rokem

      Only damage to the windshield, still in the National Archives, is a crack from a bullet fragment which also damaged the chrome plating... from the inside. The idea somebody was assuming they would frame this on a lone shooter from behind while standing squarely in front of the limo (where, exactly?), firing through glass (!) and past the ears of a carful of passengers as he shot Kennedy in the face is laughable.

  • @HoldHisHeadSteady
    @HoldHisHeadSteady Před rokem +6

    Oswald was a convenient scapegoat! Jackie needs more scrutiny! We're thinking only men were involved and capable!
    Fun fact: She's French. She wore a pink Coco Chane dressl French design.
    The actress , Natalie Portman, who played her in the movie 'JACKIE ' is the same actress who starred in her first box office hit , co starring Gary Oldman, in the FRENCH movie titled: LEÓN
    Gary played Oswald in another iconic Movie 😉

    • @HoldHisHeadSteady
      @HoldHisHeadSteady Před rokem +2

      And in that movie, LEÓN, she's an assassin's apprentice!

  • @pepp4560
    @pepp4560 Před rokem +3

    One correction: as Morley knows well, the last U.S. Government position re the JFK assassination is that it did appear to involve a conspiracy.

    • @TrueNovice
      @TrueNovice Před rokem +2

      Said 2 shooters maybe, but acting independently and unknown to each other

  • @CapnSnackbeard
    @CapnSnackbeard Před rokem +73

    I hope after all those failed assassination attempts on him, Castro finally just had Kennedy's weasle-ass capped.

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 Před rokem +21

      It would be hilarious

    • @juliusc.8
      @juliusc.8 Před rokem +16

      Castro was fond of Kennedy.

    • @kxkxkxkx
      @kxkxkxkx Před rokem

      That is pretty much exactly what happened 🚩 you must be a dedicated communist, just like Lee Oswald and his KGB wife...

    • @GrimReader
      @GrimReader Před rokem +10

      @@juliusc.8 Cause Kennedy was the little engine that couldn't. After a while the assassinations just became cute

    • @choppA_getudA
      @choppA_getudA Před rokem +8

      Castroes what Kennedoesn't.

  • @rynolord2308
    @rynolord2308 Před rokem +1

    This guy is giving a zoom call? It better be reporters only or else we’re gonna have another Italian Tifa incident

  • @PurushaDesa
    @PurushaDesa Před rokem +4

    Why is it such an important date if they've already ignored the deadline so many times? What enforceable repercussions are there for not meeting the time limit?

    • @ciarancassidy7566
      @ciarancassidy7566 Před rokem +4

      Legally enforceable repurcussions don't exist for the CIA

    • @c2itccase9
      @c2itccase9 Před rokem

      The $1.7 trillion omnibus was delayed and passed by a lame duck congress….the decline of the USA is as obvious as LHO was part of a conspiracy.

  • @thesultrystrangerdanger6824

    That's it I'm calling Daniel hopsicker

  • @0ptimuscrime
    @0ptimuscrime Před rokem +1

    Live by the dome, die by the dome

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Před rokem

    The Fox 🦊 guarding the Chickens.

  • @mtp4430
    @mtp4430 Před rokem +1

    Anything that would be of interest has already been redacted.

  • @richardj9016
    @richardj9016 Před rokem +1

    MAGIC

    • @daleknox8104
      @daleknox8104 Před rokem

      Exactly, we need the " Majestic 12 Allen Dulles " former CIA director fired by JFK. Communications with Helms and Angleton.

  • @vixtex
    @vixtex Před rokem +1

    Just shows you who’s really in charge of this country.

  • @dfkuz
    @dfkuz Před rokem +3

    You do know, I hope, that Oswald was seen casually drinking a Coke in the 2nd floor lunchroom of the Depository within a couple of minutes after the shots rang out, and he did not appear out of breath as he should have if he had just come from the sixth floor! FYI, that IS him in the Altgen’s photo watching the limo go by the front of the building, and right after is when he went to take his break! His former mistress, Judyth Vary Baker, ID’d him!

    • @EricAlanSolo
      @EricAlanSolo Před rokem +4

      Billy Lovelady.

    • @dfkuz
      @dfkuz Před rokem +1

      @@EricAlanSolo That's what David Lifton ("Best Evidence") wrote back to me when I asked him, but use your eyes and not the mind control we've been placed under and then look at the photo again! It makes perfect sense that Oswald would be taking his lunch break and take a couple of minutes to watch the motorcade go past the Book Depository, then use the elevator to the second floor lunchroom, and buy a Coke. Why do you think the Secret Service agents around the President's limo are all looking at Oswald with alarm? People were threatened and bought off right and left afterward (just like today).

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem +1

      "You do know, I hope, that Oswald was seen casually drinking a Coke in the 2nd floor lunchroom of the Depository within a couple of minutes after the shots rang out, and he did not appear out of breath as he should have if he had just come from the sixth floor!"
      Wrong. You are repeating a conspiracy myth. Marrion Baker and Roy Truly never said, in any statement provably spoken or handwritten by either of them, that Oswald was drinking any type of soda in the lunchroom when they saw him approximately 90 seconds after the last shot was fired, and in fact they said quite the opposite, that both his hands were empty. He got the soda after Baker and Truly left the lunchroom and continued up the stairs. The first person who really did say they saw him with a soda bottle after the shooting was secretary Jeraldean Reid, who said she saw him holding such a bottle when he was walking through her office *away* from the lunchroom.
      "FYI, that IS him in the Altgen’s photo watching the limo go by the front of the building, and right after is when he went to take his break!"
      No, that has been irrefutably proven to have been Billy Lovelady.
      "His former mistress, Judyth Vary Baker, ID’d him!"
      BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Judyth Vary Baker??? You mean she **CLAIMED** that it was him in the photo. And you didn't know that she has been proven to have obvious and severe credibility problems? She is almost certainly a complete fraud. You didn't know that, just to name one example, she tried to pass off letters to her ex-husband as love letters she had written to Oswald by tearing off the name of the addressee from every letter, and that these same letters were identified by her ex-husband's second wife and her own daughter as having indeed been written to her ex-husband, not to Oswald?

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem +2

      @@dfkuz "That's what David Lifton ("Best Evidence") wrote back to me when I asked him, but use your eyes and not the mind control we've been placed under and then look at the photo again!"
      I've looked at it many times and also looked at other proven photos of Billy Lovelady wearing the same shirt. It's definitely Billy Lovelady in the Altgens photo, and other TSBD employees corroborated that he was out in front of the TSBD with them watching the motorcade. Not one TSBD employee ever said they saw Oswald outside watching the motorcade.
      "It makes perfect sense that Oswald would be taking his lunch break and take a couple of minutes to watch the motorcade go past the Book Depository, then use the elevator to the second floor lunchroom, and buy a Coke."
      Why does that make "perfect sense," exactly? And for the second time, he didn't buy the "Coke" until after Baker and Truly saw him in the lunchroom. Both of them said that when they first saw him both of his hands were empty.
      "Why do you think the Secret Service agents around the President's limo are all looking at Oswald with alarm?"
      I see them looking back in the general direction of the building itself. Where you're getting this idea that they are looking at one particular person I can't imagine, since they are facing away from the camera and you can't see the precise direction in which they are looking. And naturally they'd look back in that general direction if they had just heard a shot from that direction, as more than 100 other witnesses said they did also. Why on earth would they be looking specifically "with alarm" at a man standing in the doorway of the building who wasn't holding a visible weapon? Sorry, but I've been studying this assassination for 34 years and that's one of the silliest claims I've ever heard or seen being made about this case.

    • @EricAlanSolo
      @EricAlanSolo Před rokem +4

      They re-enacted that walk down the stairs with a guy of Oswald’s age and weight. He was not out of breath at all.

  • @dfkuz
    @dfkuz Před rokem +1

    Try to find a photo of the guy named Paine (I think his first name was Thomas) that Oswald and Marina were living with at the time! He was a dead ringer for Oswald and could easily act as a double to travel to Mexico City and also test drive a used car! And then there was Roscoe White, a professional photographer, whose own legs from the hips down and Roscoe’s square chin (Oswald’s was pointed!) were photo shopped into the famous photo called the Oswald backyard photo where he LOOKS like he’s holding a rifle!

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem +2

      "Try to find a photo of the guy named Paine (I think his first name was Thomas) that Oswald and Marina were living with at the time!"
      I think you're talking about Michael Paine, and if so, Lee and Marina never lived with him. Marina only, not Lee, lived with Paine's wife, Ruth, for two months in the autumn of 1963.
      "He was a dead ringer for Oswald and could easily act as a double to travel to Mexico City and also test drive a used car!"
      I've seen many photos and films of Michael Paine and he did not look especially like Oswald to me, and I'm sure many people would agree with me.

    • @bernardfong1019
      @bernardfong1019 Před rokem

      Ruth Paine.

    • @thomassmith2091
      @thomassmith2091 Před rokem +1

      Your Thomas Paine is probably Thomas Payne. He worked for Bell Helicopter, which was a revolving door for the agency. His wife, Ruth, spoke fluent Russian. She spent very much time with Oswald's wife, Marina, (Russian) and children. So, she lives in Texas in 1963, and she is fluent in Russian.

    • @KarlKrogmann
      @KarlKrogmann Před rokem +2

      His name was Michael Ralph Paine and he looked nothing like Oswald.

    • @dfkuz
      @dfkuz Před rokem

      @@thomassmith2091 I thought his name was Thomas but Google says it was Michael.

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Před rokem

    Plenty of great books with
    every detail,
    Nobody Cares 🇺🇸

  • @thomassmith2091
    @thomassmith2091 Před rokem

    Why does the CIA not wanting to discuss or help in investigations.
    Answer: Book
    "Family of Secrets" written by Russ Baker (I think)?

  • @KarmaPaym3ntPlan
    @KarmaPaym3ntPlan Před rokem +6

    It’s so difficult to imagine the means by which, there would be a difference between what they’re forced and would prefer to release.
    Maybe there’s something about a Biden-set deadline, that simply cannot be refused

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 Před rokem +1

    Operation 40 and FRANK STURGIS, I bet Oswald met him!!!

  • @edszewczyk
    @edszewczyk Před rokem +1

    The guest sure uses the word “operational” a lot. Wish he’d been asked to explain what he meant by it. Or is it just a buzzword to signify that we don’t know what they’re doing or what it means, but it can’t be anything good?

    • @vivanance
      @vivanance Před rokem +2

      When the CIA handler tells Oswald to go out in the street and pass out pro-Castro pamphlets while they follow him around with a camera, he's being used operationally. Little did he know that he was being set up as the fall guy.

  • @DeadBoneJones
    @DeadBoneJones Před rokem

    Joaniedeez nutz

  • @patdwyer5204
    @patdwyer5204 Před rokem

    Oswalds' tax returns released ? Looking at the windshield in the photo on screen here, I do not see the documented hole, bullet hole, etc.

  • @s_p_onarge8720
    @s_p_onarge8720 Před rokem

    I don’t know why the government don’t just say ‘that’s it, that’s all of the documents’. What are they hiding and who are they protecting after all this time

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před rokem

      They could release every scrap of paper on earth and conspiracy theorists will still just be saying "ah, but what are they still hiding?"

  • @enniocontreras9348
    @enniocontreras9348 Před rokem

    Like people say. That they won't tell us we can hear at loud voice. They knew that something was cooking at but all them this assasination fall from heaven in order to take out of the way the only person who can do it

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Před rokem +1

    6 shooters were involved,
    all have been identified.

  • @theresasadlier9714
    @theresasadlier9714 Před rokem

    Where are the curtain rods

  • @kohhna
    @kohhna Před rokem

    Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do anything wrong, the imperialist piggy got what he deserved.
    The reason why most people at the time believed there was more than just LHO involved in the shooting is because the general assumption at that time was that it was a hit by Cuban and / or Soviet agents in retaliation for the Cuban Missile Crisis (which the reds actually won but the American public didn't know that at the time). The weirdness in the way the feds dealt with the evidence and how hard they went on the lone gunman theory was because they were scared that that was true and that implicating the Soviets could land us in WW3, as another assassination of a head of state had pushed the world into WW1 within living memory. That's what Bobby and LBJ went to their graves believing.
    I could see it being entirely possible that the Gusano anti-castroites might have been aware of and keeping tabs on Oswald. Still doesn't mean that the spooks were operating Oswald from behind the scenes.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Před rokem +1

      wrong on so many levels. first LHO TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS NOV 23. USA REMOVED SOME MISSILES FROM TURKEY. ITWAS A SWAP NOT A VICTORY.

  • @Badhands55
    @Badhands55 Před rokem

    If they released it, and you have access to it, it’s complete bullshit

  • @AndyDEFILLIPPO
    @AndyDEFILLIPPO Před rokem

    If they didn’t do it they where involved in it

  • @sandrashady703
    @sandrashady703 Před rokem +2

    This wasn't a CIA screw up, this was a CIA mission complete successfuly.

  • @blackedmirror5073
    @blackedmirror5073 Před rokem

    Thanks girlfriend

  • @richardj9016
    @richardj9016 Před rokem

    The documents we need are the ones which show who killed Kennedy and why ? Duh !

  • @Geopolitic157
    @Geopolitic157 Před rokem

    Recommended reading- David Talbot's "The Devil's Chessboard", James W. Douglass's " JFK And The Unspeakable"
    These two investigative authors corroborated independents sources. Very detailed history of how the state within a state operated in history. The population is lied to on a regular basis..Very chilling.

  • @soapopera3139
    @soapopera3139 Před rokem

    Look at the situation of JFK and Israel.
    Curious.

  • @petergozina7799
    @petergozina7799 Před rokem

    Does everyone remember 6 people in the vehicle that day? I remember only 4 with the governor of Texas riding shotgun...

    • @greghanna7753
      @greghanna7753 Před rokem +2

      Two secret service guys in the front row of course. 4 passengers.

    • @brianarbenz7206
      @brianarbenz7206 Před rokem

      ...riding _what,_ Peter Gozina?

    • @petergozina7799
      @petergozina7799 Před rokem

      @@brianarbenz7206 He was in the front passenger seat. Not behind it. His wife wasn't in the vehicle.

  • @knowmusicman157
    @knowmusicman157 Před rokem

    the Bush family is a big reason it was stopped

  • @ughughhguhguhughughgugh8521

    eh he was prolly a ruskie an we didnt want a war to start. like a movie or some shit yeah

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Před rokem +4

      If that was true, why cover it up now?

    • @reinarforeman6518
      @reinarforeman6518 Před rokem

      That makes perfect sense if you ignore every piece of information. If you can do that than it all lines up perfectly.

  • @thesultrystrangerdanger6824

    Wait something something Daniel hopsicker or something or something something old photos something something for the grass

  • @ryananon779
    @ryananon779 Před rokem +2

    The language used by this guy is so speculative. It might be this and it's possible that...
    Scraping the bottom of the conspiracy barrel 🙄

    • @brianambrosemcmahon8531
      @brianambrosemcmahon8531 Před rokem

      Not at all , the point of the interview is that the CIA knew and used Oswald at senior levels He was not a loner or a crazed individual but rather an operative who was under surveillance in Mexico City . The Warren commission was a fictional story and shielding the truth from public view .
      The cover up continues after 59 years . The only national risk at stake is the TrUTh.

  • @BK-uf6qr
    @BK-uf6qr Před rokem

    What a waste of time. Another CZcams video of self important people talking about things we already know. Telling us who they are, what they do and rehashing theories and speculation. Someday all of these conspiracy theorists should get together and decide on a unified theory. Instead, all of these random conspiracy theorists push their individual yet self contradicting theories. The sum of the parts betrays the individual theories. The sheer number of theories in essence means their is a theory. Yet, there is nothing new here.

    • @shyman3000
      @shyman3000 Před rokem

      tha fuck are you talking about?

  • @zachflame123
    @zachflame123 Před rokem +3

    Kennedy was accidentally killed by a Secret Service member riding in a rear car, as described in the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger and the film "JFK: The Smoking Gun"

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Před rokem +3

      If that were true, why would intelligence cover it up?

    • @zachflame123
      @zachflame123 Před rokem

      @@JulianPerez-zv6os because the Secret Service was known for hard partying, substance abuse and other indiscretions. They had been awake until the early morning the previous night. The FBI was implicated in the record of the Service. To cover up the possible incident, the FBI and CIA manipulated the autopsy and other records. The book and film, which heavily uses forensic evidence, place Oswald at the scene (with unknown motives and affiliations), but deny he was the shooter who struck the killing blow.

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Před rokem +2

      @@zachflame123 Yeah....or....they did it

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Před rokem +1

      @@zachflame123 Like, at this point we basically know for sure that Oswald was a cultivated intelligence asset.

    • @zachflame123
      @zachflame123 Před rokem

      @@JulianPerez-zv6os the only problem is explaining why the CIA would kill right wing Cold War imperialist John Kennedy

  • @curbozerboomer1773
    @curbozerboomer1773 Před rokem +1

    Morley is correct about the CIA (and the FBI) knowing a little more about Oswald...However, there is no way that Oswald was being "used" by either organization ...he was a loose cannon, idiot loser of a man, for God's sake!. He had an incredible hatred of most people, and saw himself as a major mover and shaker in world politics. He certainly would not be used by any "hit team" for any reason!...The CIA knows that the remaining paperwork will show a certain level of incompetence, in tracking Oswald--and they are loathe to admit it!...also, both the CIA and FBI are guilty of not sharing information they had about LHO...there was a certain "competition" between the two organizations, mainly fostered by J. Edgar Hoover...it is a bleak situation, for sure...but it really is just another case of "CYA" at all costs!

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem

      A "loser of a man" who came from a broken home and lived only 24 years but joined the Civil Air Patrol as a teen, enlisted in the USMC on his 17th birthday, worked in Japan on the U2 program, learned Russian well at a DoD facility in Nag's Head, NC, became a double agent in a CIA-run phony defector program in the USSR, was personally tracked by FBI's Hoover and known by the highest reaches of the CIA, brought his family to the United States, became a paid FBI informant while working odd jobs, may have run guns to the Cuban exile community with Jack Ruby, participated in a CIA plot to kill Castro, traveled to several countries, hung out with socialites and the White Russian community, tipped the government off to the plot against JFK in Chicago, and is still someone known and argued about all over the world 60 years later? Some "idiot loser!" Sure, the KGB concluded it wouldn’t use Oswald, but partly because it suspected (correctly) that he was a CIA dangle. In fact, you're largely parroting Hoover's false characterization of the man, and either naïvely or with malice trying to mislead Americans regarding the role of the CIA in Kennedy’s murder and of the FBI in the official coverup.

    • @wtmerit6129
      @wtmerit6129 Před rokem

      So if Oswald had not been killed where he was able to prove his innocents and then it was found Johnson was behind the assassination as many have suspected with Johnson being the 2nd Vice President after McKinley to become President after his President, JFK, was assassinated in his political home, his homestate, Texas as well as Theodore Roosevelt's New York, would Oswald have revealed he was CIA entered politics and one day become our President only to be assassinated in his Vice Presidents homestate?
      It is crazy to think that both Kennedy's were killed in their presidential rivals home turf, their homestates, Johnson and Nixon's, Texas and California, as the President before them had, McKinley in Theodore Roosevelt's New York and nobody questions it? More than half the presidential assassinations in the homestate of the next President if you include RFK running for President where the first two Lincoln and Garfield were killed in Washinton, DC, where it would be expected because they lived there. Five presidential assassinations with the last three in the homestate of the next President and of all the books and investigations barely mentioned that only one, JFK's happened in Johnson's homestate. Makes our investigating agencies look bad for starters. Should have been mentioned in the Warren Report. Maybe to embarrassing for Johnson.

    • @kohhna
      @kohhna Před rokem

      Please don't call Oswald a loser, he brought the people's justice to a war-criminal who would likely have gone unpunished otherwise.

    • @Apogee02UK
      @Apogee02UK Před rokem

      Oswald as absolutely a loser.

    • @kohhna
      @kohhna Před rokem

      @@Apogee02UK how many imperialist pig-dogs have you merk'd lately?

  • @boomcrypto8347
    @boomcrypto8347 Před rokem +3

    You are on the target with Johannides.

    • @curbozerboomer1773
      @curbozerboomer1773 Před rokem

      You are merely assuming "guilt by association"...stick to the facts.

    • @boomcrypto8347
      @boomcrypto8347 Před rokem

      @@curbozerboomer1773 You stick to the facts. Johannides created ' The Oswald Project" 3 years before JFK was whacked.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Před rokem

      Yes, Joannides almost surely was involved in sheep dipping Oswald as a Marxist in New Orleans and may well have known about Oswald's role in the plot against Castro as well.

  • @uratrick
    @uratrick Před rokem

    0000

  • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
    @fuckfannyfiddlefart Před rokem +2

    Oswald was a hero.
    DISLIKED

  • @DivePlane13
    @DivePlane13 Před rokem +6

    I swear, both the Soviet intel agency and the CIA knew about Lee. They both thought he was just a weirdo and a useless crazy person. They thought he was harmless. More likely is that the CIA and the secret service is just highly embarrassed about the situation.
    Listen to Well There’s your problems bonus episode about it. It’s really good.

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros Před rokem +4

      "Soviet intel agency", because KGB is tough to spell. That's what the KGB assessments in the Soviet Union said about Oswald. If the CIA and FBI thought that about Oswald they wouldn't keep using him for counterintelligence operations when he came back. When he handed out leaflets in front of the cameras for a TV channel that was funded by INCA, which was a CIA operation to film who took the leaflets from him among the Cubans. They wouldn't use a "harmless idiot" to do something like that.
      They'd use someone who could do a job and complete it, had a sense of duty to do it properly, and used that against him, it's really not that complicated.

    • @DivePlane13
      @DivePlane13 Před rokem

      @@Oscuros dog. Lee was part of a free cuba communist party. You give the CIA too much credit here. They thought he was a insane mf, but harmless.

    • @DivePlane13
      @DivePlane13 Před rokem +1

      @@Oscuros dude fit the same profile of mass shooters today. It’s either one big name guy (jfk) or just a mass amount of people.

    • @raeroa7982
      @raeroa7982 Před rokem

      Nah. Jack Ruby told a fellow FBI informant to “watch for the fireworks” hours before the assassination, killed Oswald because he was so upset over a president he never met and then died himself 3 months after getting a new trial….I think Os was a patsy planted there to take the fall and wasn’t as crazy as the CIA made him sound.

    • @jacobcastro1885
      @jacobcastro1885 Před rokem

      When was MK Ultra? Does Oswald fit the timeline?