What was Peak EDDIE really capable of Benching?
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- What was Peak EDDIE really capable of Benching?
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Thanks for Watching 👍 How much do you think Eddie had the potential to Press?
There are only 7 men in history who benched 700+ pounds...He is already in 1000lbs club and the 1100 club in the deadlift, Just imagine if Eddie entered the 700lbs bench club!
PEAK Eddie if trained could've hit 700 and maybe a little more 705/10, but one bad tear or pull could ruin his chances, takes a lot of luck at those weights! Kaz is a great example of that sad development.
@@_Maestro_Hulk_ I’m all for different opinions; however pointing out only the negatives of one athletes while focusing on the positives of another is simply bias. If you watch the movie: “Eddie Strongman” I think it’s quite clear that many of the things you have stated are untrue.
@@motchiman5423The thing is is was able to do it. But at what cost? You get injured and you're career may be over.
Strongman has always neglected chest strength. I’m glad to see Brian Shaw leading the way with the chest press that he introduced this year.
It's made very rare appearances over the years and I too was glad to see it at the Shaw Classic but wouldn't want to see it increase the risk of injuries
chest strength in strongman world is useless, therefore they dont care about it.
That's It.
Eddie Hall never neglected it. He basically trained like a powerlifter
@@driessen16 which is why he gassed out so quickly in moving events. Statically, he’s definitely in the top 5 strongest men who’ve ever lived, but there’s a reason he only won WSM after some event changes.
Brian tore his pec on that machine!
Benching has no place in strongman comps, it is putting a huge amount of stress on quite a small body part, hence the amount of strength athletes who have torn pecs, over the years.Thor being another.
I think that if eddie had chosen powerlifting instead of strongman he would have become the strongest powerlifter of all time
I don't think he ever had the grip to hold on to much more than 400kg in the deadlift, which would have limited him.
@@elvikingobarbarojaPowerlifting should allow straps on deadlifts. Over under is a crap way to deadlift. Causes muscle imbalances and torn biceps.
He never had too focus on it
he did a strict 216 kg axle press , i have no doubt with such strong shoulders already , a barrel chest that he would bench 300kg+ if he would focus on it
Hell, he did nearly 300 kg for many reps, without focusing on the lift
Eddie's bench seems all the more remarkable relative to even his most gifted strongman peers. It's simply not emphasized in their sport.
what's most impressive is how they do those insane bench presses with bodybuilding like form instead of all gyrated like the weaker folks do to try to inflate their number
God knows... Everyone has ultimately limitless potential, but the two factors of age and genetics are extremely important. For him, it's really impossible to say.
No, there are limits for everyone. Eddie’s are simply much higher than 99.999% because of his world class genetics. I could work 3 times harder for 20 years, have the best sleep and nutrition and still have a max bench hundreds of pounds less than him.
@@bgrady24 Here we go... Here come the muppets. What are they then, has anyone ever hit their full potential, ever? No, they haven't. How can you say these things when 99.9% of people don't even put a quarter of the time in? There is absolutely nothing to base that claim on.
@@bgrady24 Well your mindset sucks, and it ain't about going hard. You won't last.
@@LickmabumbumIt’s very obvious that everyone has a limit, and those limits vary from person to person. Look at joe fazer for example. He has been training for 6 years and can only bench 110-120kg. Do you genuinely believe that he would be able to break the record of 355kg if he dedicated 20 years to benching, gained 200lbs and took absurd amounts of peds? Obviously not. Same goes for 99% of people in regards to breaking the world record in any of the 3 power lifts. It’s literally impossible for most people
@@ohareair552yes Larry for example was benching 500 at 19, if ur going to be a all time great at something it shows from a really young age, Lebron for example went to nba at 18 and dominated grown men. Talent will beat hard work in any plane of human existence.
Given the numbers Eddie was benching for reps, years before his peak and with NO specific training, I fully believe he could have been in the running for the raw bench record if that's the path he'd chosen. That said, I don't think there's any reality where Eddie would have picked powerlifting over strongman, he likes being in the limelight too much.
Can you do Eddie Hall peak Powerlift your prediction! I love your videos 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video bro. You have to do a video about comparing sam sulek to another athlete
Not a bad idea
we have to start to define, what "strength" is to find the strongest one and to compare ancient, present and future athletes.
I think he could be one of the very few people to achieve a 800 bench press his max is 685 and he isn’t a bench press specialist
Thor #1 for deadlift, Eddie #1 for bench and squat, imo. Eddie raw benching 700, and squatting 1000...I can see Eddie putting up those numbers.
Thor squatted 1015 though too.
if we are talking about max squat thor takes that, he squated 1015 without a lot of powerlifting specific training while Eddie said his max squat is 900 pounds (even though Eddie is a lot better in squat for reps, he always beat thor in that but he doesn't have a crazy high max)
Eddie is The king of deadlift he single handedly raised the Record by 40kg years before thor outlifted him by 1kg at his home gym
Imagine saying Thor is #1 for deadlift when he took 4 years more than Eddie to add 1 single kg. Eddie is miles ahead of thor in static strength.
@@RustyIsScared Yes because Thor's only goal in that time was beating Eddie's record. He couldn't possibly have been focused on the 3 Arnold titles he won, the WSM, 3 more ESM titles taking his run to 5 titles. The WUS title. Not everybody takes a year out to focus on one lift. Thor won the ASC two months before pulling 501kg.
I am sure he could have benched 700 maybe more if he focused on just benching and trained perfectly without injury..
Good video you should do one on Big Z's bench press
Eventually
I think a lot of people have forgotten that Eddie, post strongman , had said he was going to break the bench record and was actively training for it.
Then he saw what Julius was pushing and that ,and his own pec tear, ended that.
Honestly I think 330kgs minimum for Eddie
He would be holding the bench world record of today ill be sure of that
Someone should make a video on the legegendary bencher Ken Lain.. The only man to hold all 3 world records in the heavyweight divisions 242...275...308 class...
Who cares he did 585 x6 pause bench that destroys everyone but like 10 men
Whippy bar makes it more like 545lbs max. He completely missed 617lbs in comp so maybe 600lbs in comp if he focused on it and did not do the other two lifts.
@@joebot9309whippy bar makes it harder. Gives it an earthquake effect.
@@joebot9309someone hitting 585 x6 pause bench week in and out is indicative of a 700+bencher even Maddox is only hitting this for maybe 8 reps and he’s hitting 750+ bench at any given time
@@joebot9309What comp was this?
@@Lickmabumbum His only powerlifting comp that was in the video. Bounced off his chest and foot was off the floor lol - this would never pass anywhere on earth, but they give it to Eddie lol (like his very obviously not locked out 500kg deadlift). If he cannot do 617, how is he supposed to do 750+ lmao?
Peek Eddie : Can I have more water?
My guess would be around 320 kg at the time he was repping 265.
i feel like eddie had even more hidden potential, he retired only at around 30y, had the hercules gene which made him gain strength and muscle faster, idk he could have risked his health even further and done even greater things, but he didnt and saved some of his health :P
I think the "Hercules gene" thing was just another BS fable from Eddie. People with myostatin deficiency have noticeably enlarged muscles even from childhood while Eddie was slim as a teenager.
I believe if he had progressed more slowly and peaked his bodyweight and ped use around mid 30s then he could have been even better, but who knows. With the approach he took he either had to stop or die so it clearly wasn't a choice
@@bruuhhhh for a strongman career he got a pretty low amount of injuries, which is one of the reasons why hes so successful in general, like look at what happened to luke richardson, went too fast.
@@greigite5191 so did Thor. Granted Brian was in the game longer than Thor, but this is also a new sport whereas Thor had done powerlifting before, so I'm just saying intelligent and successful guys can still make a mistake that leads to injury when they change things up
I wonder who will win Brian Shaw vs Mark Henry
James Henderson?
Does the 35-40 peak age of strength athletes have anything to do with perhaps increasing the PED dosage later in the career?
No as mid 30's is also the peak for natural strength athletes
I will say it forever, if Eddie was a bit taller, maybe 6’5, he would undoubtedly be the strongest of all time, and would have won way more competitions
Quite possibly, taller and a bit lighter as the mass he carried around at his peak slowed him down in the dynamic events
@@StrengthUniverse true, the reason he was so big was because he said something like how far you can throw something doesn’t show strength, but how much you can lift or press can, he thought the static events shows who is the strongest.
@@Future_WSM I agree, much prefer to see who is best in static lifts than the dynamic events.
The strongest static athlete of all time.
325kg
Like eddie, is good guy
Def700, squat def 1000
330 raw
If he devoted to the bench press instead of the 1100 deadlift, I think he could have pressed well above 700
But I'm glad he didn't, because that deadlift was way cooler and way more important.
@@TheBcoolGuy I agree 100% he made history pulling that 500kg/1100lbs
I think Early 30's Is the Best Age for Definite Peak Strength. Various Studies shows Early 30s is what most people have their Max muscular Strength.
I think that's perhaps true for those on gear (which are every single top-level strength athlete) because you can't keep doing it for so long, but for naturals and those who hold off on using gear until they reach about their peak natural potential and are smart about it, 35-40 makes much more sense. It takes a LONG time to mature into your body as a man. If you imagine a natural, strong, reliable man, one who could protect you the best out of all the men in the world, you'll imagine a man who's about 35-40.
early 30s is usually test peak
Who knows, he retired too early and went for the big pay cheque with boxing, should have gone into powerlifting straight after his WSM2017 win
Hé would be close to jullius maddox im 100 procent sure of that
There's a video of him lifting 300kg aged 23.
So at his peak He'd have been above that
That was done equipped with a bench shirt so doesn't count
Due to his height eddie would have probably done better in powerlifting imo
It’s better to be shorter and bulky in powerlifting to reduce rom
@@bikramdhaliwal2113and yet nearly all the strongest powerlifters are above average height.
@@Tomm5997 Taylor Atwood, John haack are below to average height.
@@bikramdhaliwal2113 and neither are among the strongest powerlifters. Jesus Oliveres, Daniel Bell, Ray Williams, and Hafthor Bjornsson are all above average height.
IN THE NEXT VIDEO PRIME HAFTHOR BJORNSSON AT 200KG BW...🇬🇧💪
It’s odd seeing a guy as strong as Eddie kick his leg out on a heavy bench. That’s kind of a rookie move. You would think someone that ingrained in the weight room would have fixed that. With that much weight it’s a recipe for an injury.
Strange things happen in comp, the pressure of competing, unfamiliar bench, bar, plates, environment, timing etc etc
And here comes the "If he had just trained it then Hafthor could definitely done a lot more than Eddie..."
Thor couldn’t even reach 600
You get exactly the same comments on Thor videos. People need to get a life and respect on both guys. They both did insane lifts.
@@Adam-cs3ldno you don't, Thor fan boys really are the worst.
Thor fans are in a different league @@Adam-cs3ld
@@u04pww2 Agree
Nobody will ever know, pointless to speculate.
hundred percent.. so everyone upload their best reps and calculate the max.. why everyone compete in competition didn'T they ?
Eddie's anatomy was perfect for deadlifting and squating, not for bench pressing. He has short legs, long torso and long arms. Longer arms mean that the bar has to travel a further distance on the bench press making it harder. The fact he had those numbers makes it even more impressing. If he had the skeletal structure for benching he would have broken the record like he did for the deadlift.
These videos tend to have a bias at times.... to say Eddie was 7 or 8 years away from his peak is like saying Larry Wheels was about 15 years away from peak when he'll never get back to his peak strength again!!!!
Eddie was scared of dying as his doctors and test results pointed towards a marginalized life or early grave.... same thing with Brock Lesnar if he hadn't had diverticulitis or had he started UFC in the early 2000s instead of WWE- every now 'n then, there are rare exceptions, but, mostly, what we've seen, is just about all we would've ever seen!!!!
How is stating that strength athletes usually peak in their mid to late 30's bias? This is simply a fact
@@StrengthUniverse The- eh hem- *usual* strength athletes don't set historic records and they never become WSM.... Eddie was anything but "the usual" or typical!!!!
The best athletes usually peak earlier, or they fizzle out earlier or more quickly, or they simply have a shorter shelf life:
- Michael Jordan took a 2-year break at his absolute peak
- Stone Cold Steve Austin had a 5-6 year run once he hit his stride and had to retire.... even then, he still took months off and went "A.W.O.L." bcus he admitted to burn-out
- Mike Tyson had an early peak, and, not bcus of injury or fatigue- but for other raw physical reasons- he really did not have that long of a career or prime
- Lesnar peaked in his mid20s and burned out quickly in WWE in his first run, and his second run has been part-time.... if CowBoy Brock is the 3rd incarnation, then the performance part is still part-time even though the appearances aren't
I'm pointing out 2 things:
) peak, prime, and longevity do not apply the same to the absolute best of historic athletes
) you're very inconsistent to the assumptions of various unknowns to athletes throughout your videos- I've seen you assume rather ambitious or even ridiculous numbers for some, while you were maybe overly strict for other's numbers
eddie hall is the most overrated man in history
😂
Whatever you're taking brother.. Quit! It's destroying your brain
@@fabiobonetta5454 yeah i need to break up with your mum. she destroyed me..
That 617 bounced off his chest lol. Absolutely no pause. This would never pass in any contest that I have ever seen. Based on that, it seems like he may be able to get 600 in a real comp. Why does Eddie always seem to get passed on lifts that should never count (ie. his very obviously not locked out 500kg deadlift)?
Foot came up, too. That's an instant foul.
Not locked out 500kg deadlift, are you stupid? 😂
I’m pretty sure the competition he competed in allowed touch and go
It's a touch and go competition (but clearly you know that because you know so much about powerlifting).
His 500 was clearly locked out.
Get a life. Hanging off Thor's groin isn't a life. Nor is spending your time on /fit/.
Whatever he benched in his peak is what his potential was
No
That doesn't even make sense. At his peak we only saw him pause rep 265kg for 6. He didn't do a one rep max and 265kg obviously isn't his potential.
Ever heard of specialisation?
@@Adam-cs3ld this, plus he didn't train specifically for bench so that's not his potential
Without steroids about 125 kg...