The Deputy - Taurus' 1873 Colt SAA Clone Reviewed
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Taurus recently entered the 1873 Single Action Army clone market with The Deputy. The Deputy is a 4 click clone of Samuel Colt's "Peacemaker". It comes in both 357 Magnum and 45 Long Colt. In this video, we take a look at the history of the Single Action Army Revolver, unbox a set of Taurus' Deputies, take the guns out to the range for some test shooting, compare these budget friendly pistols with the more expensive Ruger Vaquero (and honestly more quality) and finally test one of the myths from the Old West to see if we can shoot a "six shooter" with some "burying money" loaded in the sixth chamber.
WATCH MORE: Removing and re-assembling the cylinder in under 1 minute: • Removing and Replacing...
NOTE: The "gunfighter" model of the Colt measured 4.75" and NOT 4.5" as was incorrectly stated in the video at time code: 2:50 and the Deputy matches the 4.75" NOT 4.5" which is correctly stated thereafter. Thanks to the viewers who caught the misstatement so we could correct it!!! Appreciated!
Also, it seems I say "wild" Earp instead of "Wyatt" in the video - really just a slip of the tongue BUT condolences for all the cardiac arrests this seems to have caused.
VIDEO CONTENT ------------------------------------------------------------------
00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - History of the 1873 Single Action Army
08:45 - Unboxing(s)
20:25 - Trigger Test
22:07 - Vaquero Comparison
25:28 - 5 plus a "money round"
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It should be on half cock for dissassembly and reassembly, makes life alot more easy. great video.
Thank you for the compliment and advice. That was the first time for me taking a cylinder out of a clone or replica like this. The half cock makes it worlds easier!
Used to the ruger that drops the cylinder bolt when you open it. I spotted this right away. You will scratch the heck out of the cylinder with the bolt up. Also called a cylinder stop.
a lot is two words
Taurus also sells it in a combination. Two cylinders, one in 45 LC, and one in 45 ACP.
I might have to pick that up..👍
Whoopie Freakin' DO!...What good is a cowboy gun for self-defense today?
Taurus once again, has had massive QC and SAFETY concerns with its standard product line.
Do you have a link that shows that Taurus offers that? I know Ruger offers Blackhawks with a conversion cylinder, but I have not seen any Taurus ones other than their double action models that have the quick change cylinder options.
@@robertkeller9828my boy😂 what are you even talking about. This 100% is not a gun meant for self defense. This is a gun to look at and take to the range. Maybe even go deer hunting with it. What’s with the hate on Taurus? They make affordable firearms and have amazing customer service compared to other platforms like Glock and sig. I personally can afford a higher class firearm but for a woods/boat gun can’t beat em.
@@robertkeller9828 who said it was for self defense? But while we're on the subject if someone was shooting one at you, would you stick around because they probably only had 5 .45 bullets to launch at you?
4 clicks and a safety bar? Awesome. To bad they don't have the case color hardening.
I bought a Deputy .45 Colt 5.5 " love it transfer bar safety great upgrade Cary 6 not 5 my serial was low 500 serial, it has become my everyday carry reliable and accurate and love .45LC and 45 ACP both knock them down and they don't get back up During Vietnam alot of Helecopter Piolets had SAA Colts in .45LC and carried their 1911 .45 Air Cav.
“Revolving Pistol.” It bothers me that strict nomenclature folks go after anyone calling a revolver a pistol. Billy the Kid was called the Prince of Pistoleers not Prince of Revolvereers. Gunfighters in the southwest were called Pistoleros not Revolveros.
There are also some interesting historical discussions about the loading, carrying, and safety of the colt SAA by plowboys ghost and 11bangbang.
I know what you mean.
Right. Pistols are pistols. The first were single shots, then revolvers, shell bangers, then autos etc. They're all pistols. And guns,handguns, sidearms,side-irons and so forth.
The so-called "strict nomenclature folks" are better known as Internet Commandos and there opinions are as noteworthy as their assholes!
It is Cavalry. Not Calvary.
I have been using my deputies for the past few months for SASS shooting. I did slick mine up with a wolf spring kit. I posted a video of it. I have always used Pietas but I’ll say with some tuning they are slick as any I used. The only draw back I have is I have big hands and the grips are small for me. Great video. Keep it up.
Hi! So grips are just like uberti clones? Small ones and pinky finger goes under grip? So in that case I still need to get piettas with 1860 army grips ...
Re. The $10 stuffed into a chamber.
Remember back then US currency was called a horse blanket.
Much larger than today's notes.
They were 3.125 inches by 7.375
So we did a video which we'll have coming up with a larger "bill" - actually a piece of paper cut to the right size. We could not get it in the 357 chamber without it jamming BUT the diameter of the 45 Colt would be bigger and it would have fit. If we folded it to reduce the length it would work in the 45 BUT you can see me jamming up a perfected good 357 revolver in the video.
Taurus made an earlir iteration in 2006 or so, called the 'Gaucho" Same action, same finishes. For some reason Taurus discontinued the Gaucho in 2009. I have one. Very slick and 2 lb. trigger. LOVE it1
I have 4 Gauchos. They were discontinued because the cross bars break and the bluing was crap. They do not support them with parts or service.
I used them and 4 ASM Colt clones, 1 Pietta and a Ruger Vaquero when I ran the show at the OK Corral. The Gauchos had the most problems.
And ...The first release 1873 had a set screw for the base pin retainer. The second release 1879 was changed to a spring loaded base pin keeper . So the cylinder could be changed out quicker in the field, carbon build up on the front of the cylinder and forcing cone would slow up or stop the cylinder from turning . Taurus did a good job on a frist time release of the Model "P" Single action Army . Uberti makes one of the finest Reproduction you can buy for just a few more dollars . You would be shooting yourself in the foot to not look at the Uberti first. Also Cimarron and Taylor & company.
yep they call it the black powder frame these days which is... well.. lazy.. like saying 'long Colt' I have the Uberti clones and they are the 1st or 'bp' frame... with smokeless of course that is not an issue and I admit I like the looks better and also the bullseye ejector rod. This Taurus is just awful in my opinion... "polished black' ? you mean black paint finish? I want blue and color case but that is just me. On my percussion clones I have nickel plated em (anyone can do it) and I plate everything that is not wood or color case. I think they are very good looking and mostly historical and clean up better and more durable.
The spring loaded was introduced in 1896. Up til then.they all used the screw. Came along with the new modern smokeless powder versions of the calibers.
@@wesleyhalpern184 yep but there was no 'black powder' frame as such. and just having the spring release does not mean you have a gun meant for smokeless.
The frames are generally known also as either OM (old model, screw retention, round ejector rod knob, thinner front sight and the Pre War with push button release, smaller ejector knob and wider front sight. There are probably other differences. I have Ruger, Pietta and Uberti (and American company rebadged versions of the italian clones. EMF, Beretta, etc.). The Pietta made are 4 click hammers with no safety and have a better action than the Uberti made, but the Uberti are better finished/smoother edges and they have a version of a safety depending on when it was made and probably the importer specifications. The Ruger I have is the original Vaquero, large framed and a Bisley grip. It's a tank! I may try the Taurus in the future. SA clones are just neat guns. Then there are the Black Powder cartridge conversion guns...
@@willbar1961 The Ubertis I have are older ones with 4 clicks and a safety notch. they also had the odd cyl pin that had two positions which really just caused problems so I just ground em doiwn to one positiion.
I know there are some people that don’t like transfer bars they say they’re not original to it and so on. The fact of the matter is Samuel Colt made many changes and improvements to his original design. He just didn’t get to this one before he died. The people that say, you don’t need it are the same people that think that drum breaks are OK and we should’ve never went to disc on a car. And remember if you don’t like something, don’t buy it. Myself I would definitely like to be able to carry one more round safely.
Sam colt died in 1862.
@@markzimmerman7279 yes he did, and if he had lived longer, he would’ve changed the way the revolver that he invented or coinvented and improved on he would’ve improved on it more. The same reason we don’t make model ts things change for good or bad and mostly for the good. I don’t know anybody that would like riding around in Henry Ford‘s first car every day with no heat really bad brakes. Poor headlights now air conditioning on a transfer bar doesn’t affect how well the gun fires doesn’t affect the trigger. I’ve proven this to dozens of my friends given them and original single action cold and a new Ruger blindfolded them had them fire it they couldn’t tell the difference. The fact is and it’s a fact that a modern single action revolver is built better than the original single action Colts. Trust me every cowboy everybody in the military back in the day that carried an old one or a new one would pick the new one because it would be, a better choice to save their lives. Leslie, do I love my old sing actions absolutely absolutely if my life depends on one. I’m picking a new one with a transfer bar that holds six instead of five safely every single time.
my problem with the transfer bar safety is that its too easy to forget that its engaged when safety prevents the gun firing it isnt immediately obvious the safety is on and its in its situated in such a way that that you have take the gun off and your eyes off the target to disengage the safety then get back on target granted thats not much of problem these days but in the old days when the s.a.a. was used by the military and law enforcement in situations where where seconds counted it would meant life or death
That being said i always load 5 and carry on an empty cylinder even when im just shooting for fun or target practice
@@GeorgiaRidgerunner most of them don’t need to be activated or deactivated. Some of the cheap ones have an external safety, but Ruger and Taurus. They’re all automatic nothing you have to do hammer back pull the trigger. Nothing else to do. Nothing to do it is just as fast and reliable as one without.
@@user-zd1du1zk7r you know im may have gotten a bit confused i wasthinking of that safety that the heritage guns have
its not a transfer bar safety its called a hammer block safety or something but it works in such a way that its works to transfer the energy of the hammer to safety thats what i was talking about sorry for any confusion i may have caused
Great vid. An important difference between the Ruger Vaquero and the other Colt clones is that the Ruger's cylinder spins both ways. Remember, don't use +P, ++P ammo in these guns, including the New Vaquero. The old Vaquero was much stouter and can handle heavy loads.
Taurus generally makesgood guns at realistic prices. My Taurus Beretta clone just turned 25 with nary a bump
My Vaquero is from the first production series in .44 magnum with a 7.5 inch barrel. I got it in the mid 1990's. This does look like a good price and I may get one or two of them.
The cylinder gear needs to mesh with the hand that pushes the cylinder. Which is why you have to jiggle it around to get it to set right.
I think I saw a video from shot show where the Taurus rep said the finish was polished nitride.
Skin that smoke wagon and get to work, boy
Or are you just gonna stand there and bleed?
Never heard about the 10$ bill deal. Cool!
No wonder you're breaking things. You place the hammer on HALF COCK to remove the cylinder of an SAA, (except for a Ruger). That way the locking bolt is in the DOWN position and doesn't engage the bolt recess in the cylinder.
TY.
No abla
The guy is an A$$clown explaining chit he has no clue, let's be honest here. Another genius figured out how to earn on Utube Clicks.
Like how the sight blade isn't too tall like on many others. That should aid in elevation accuracy
Seems like i heard or read somewhere the money in the cylinder was for burial expenses.. but I'm not 100% sure on that
I always wondered! What would it be like to compare a Porsche to a Volkswagen Beetle?
Awesome I like the Ruger better I have the Ruger Blackhawk 45 convertible very good very reliable
It was just 45 Colt (long wasn't used) unit God said on to John Browning to create the 1911.
Did I see a finger on the trigger while cooking? Opps
I like this gun something calls me to it
Hell yes
I heard the 4 clicks
I like the deputy. The finish on it looks great. It looks like it's a nice little shooter to me.
Taurus had revolvers like this out before. I bought two Taurus Gauchos, years ago. One with a 5.5" barrel and one with a 7".
The Gauchos look a bit nicer. How did you like them?
@@DaGunGuy I like them. I take them to the range all the time and never had an issue. I don't know why they weren't popular.
@@DaGunGuy I have two Gauchos that I got from another SASS shooter when I was first starting out in the sport. They worked quite well for me until I could afford to upgrade to my Ubertis. I still have them for backups and in case someone I know wants to give CAS a try.
the great Henry ford once said why paint em any other color when you can paint em black
my version of that is
why shoot anything else when you can shoot a peacemaker
Buy the Uberti. I have 3 and they are flawles and beautiful.
Which Ubertis do you have?
I have the Taylor's-Tuned Uberti Smoke Wagon in .357 Magnum. You're not kidding in the quality. It's a beautiful and very slick-handling firearm.
Glad I clicked on this, great mini history lesson with Colt. I am halfway through this video, Although you are correct about them entering the market with this model, Lets not forget its predecessor the Taurus Gaucho which was a SAA which was a decent homage to the Colt original design.
Gauchos were junk.
Did not last and are not supported with parts or service.
I have 4 of them. They were cheap and worth it.
@@StephenEngdahl-mu9rr yep they left a lot to be desired, I had three. One that stayed at Taurus repair shop for almost a year until the replaced it with a 92 semi auto. They could not get the trigger assembly. The other two shot ok but i quickly got rid of them after the repair experience.
Make them double action.
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Im not a gun guy...
(and im sorry i have to say so much and explain, because i do have love for the saying of colts "cursed blessing". or however thats said.)
And so from the perspective of somebody that is probably even more obsolete than a single action.,...
man,
Please tell me you can change out that handle.
Im sure its a side note and still though, anything that allows a person to direct an explosion should not have plastic as a part of its make up.
(If nothing else just an opinion.)
Learning about the 4 ticks or clicks was a cool part in any case, This being the first place ive heard about that.
Its a tool, and truly a power tool if there ever was one.
And so thank you for the post, im glad your channel found its way to my "feed".
There are aftermarket grips available for the Deputy.
@@DaGunGuy
So I "updated" a part of my post where I wrote about "colts blessing or colts cursed blessing". I just wanted to say so you can tell me if you want me to pull that statement.
And in any case I'm glad to hear they at least have a different option and the piece is made with the ability to be simply disassembled and cleaned.
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And so once again, thank you for the post. And I'm glad to know that we still have a market for those tools that STILL have a positive association/reference for making the world a better place.
(For future generations, without getting into the arguments. I'll just erase my posts.)
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Absolutely appreciated and
...love forever whatsoever...
I have a very nice clone but it can't carry 6 safely and sometimes you just want something a little more practical so this is a good option
$17 for the gun then another $10 to plug up a hole and get caked in carbon? Man these cowboys just had money to burn even on $1 a day
Please do another vid after 6 months of SASS.
This is one I must have
Just hope I don't go fishing anytime soon
In the finale of Fist Full of Dollars, Eastwood loads only one round and spins the cylinder, so only 1 chance in 6 that his gun will fire. Unless you assume he is so skilled that he can stop/time the spin to stop at 5 indexes. His opponent loads one round in a Winchester rifle, so 100% chance he is loaded.
It has been said with the long barrel revolver one uses a cross. drawer
I used to have a Taurus Gaucho in 45LC - which looks to be identical to this Deputy model. Not sure what's different with the Deputy
Nice polished finish, like the 4 clicks with a transfer bar. Lose the silly logo engraving on the barrel, and I'll buy one.
Can you get wooden replacement grips for the Deputy? I'm not crazy about the plastic grips.
It does look like there are after-market grips available.
That is not a clone. Is just like the Rugers. The Colts have a pin on the hammer, not a transfer bar
Let's not forget Taurus goucho or Beretta stamped
Wait did you guys use The Call of Juarez game art for the thumbnail
See ya front sight 🔫
Looks like the earlier Taurus M45SA Gaucho.
I have a Bicentennial Vaginia Dragoon. 44 single action.
Virginia?
Just open the boxes!!!
Yes Det. David Mills. ;)
Jump to 8:50 to see "what's in the box"
You could lose the cylinder pin on the Ruger but not the Taurus.
True
You said many times that the Ruger's quality was worth the price compared to this new Taurus. Keep us up to date on when the Taurus front sight falls out.
Will do.
Good video, I'm subscribed 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Everyone saying this is a first entry forgets the Taurus gaucho. Nice gun though it is more of a second model.
I thought we was doing a review on the Taurus single action
Just jump to 8:50
It might be much smoother, but the front sight will fly off.
it would appear
*Constructive Criticism;*
*1). Your only problem with reassembling the cylinder guide rod on either brand, was that you closed the loading gate first.*
*2). Notice your accuracy when shooting left handed, during a steady trigger pull, was more centered.(?) that's because you're left eye dominant. (like me)*
*You could (a) close your left eye while shooting right handed, (b) turn your head slightly to the left so as to lead with your right eye forward, (c) train your R eye to shoot dominant.*
*Considering you're target shooting, and not in combat, or necessarily needing peripheral sight, I would just close my left eye.*
*Thanks for showing the Taurus 1873 Colt SAA Clone. (I say [tore-us] lol)* 👍
*PS: I'm sure Ruger would take care of that front sight, if they become aware of it?*
Hey! Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. I am indeed left eye dominant and shoot with it but RH. I always assumed it was my trigger control that got me shooting off to the left. And yes, Ruger said they would fix it but stuck me with postage - lol. Thanks again!
@@DaGunGuy *Cool.*
*Besides myself, you're probably the 5th, or 6th person I've helped out with this situation.* 👍
*And Ruger should have kissed you a$$, not only pay S&H, but sent you some MERCH to keep you as a happy customer, with nothing but good to say about them.*
*You would think a front sight coming off should be a big deal for Ruger's CEO to get control of.*
Alot of old farts making little knit picky comments. Relax guys or make tour own videos if you know more
What is the gap between the rear of the trigger guard and the frame good for?
I keep my chewing gum there when I don’t have room behind my ear
@@guaporeturns9472 ...after you removed it from your frontal lobe...
smashing large fingers that gap has honestly been a complaint for a lot of big handed shooters
For a clone, why do they have to have the cylinder rod so long?
As far as I'm concerned, you can pronounce Taurus any way you want. However, there is no US "calvary". But there is a US "cavalry". 😉
Calvary Methodist Cavalry
How do these compare to the taurus gaucho they sold about 20 years ago
I haven't ever shot a Gaucho, so no clue. But if anyone has, how do you think they line up.
Gotta be honest, really would've preferred they don't engrave "deputy" on the barrel and went with some wooden grips rather than the more modern ones. Just seems weird to see black rubber on such a classic design.
There is no such thing as 45 Long Colt
It is just 45 Colt .
44-40 actually 44 WCF
38-40 actually 38 WCF
The reason you are fighting the cylinder pin is because you are supposed to put it on half cock, 2 clicks. Then you will very easily be able to remove and return the cylinder. If you continue to do it the way you are, you can damage the cylinder hand,
$17 worth of gold back them was a good chunk. I think a $10 dollar gold peace was one troy ounce back then.
Are the boxes moving off screen by unsceen forces because you have a naughty 🐈 cat?
I have to confess… it’s the Force. 😉
@ 4:09---- Isn't that a Second Gen. Colt????
Yep
Took mine to the range 2 days ago and it performed brilliantly. So I have to disagree on what the hammer sounds like.
I’d tend to agree with you. It performed much better at the range than I thought it would. Shot very nice.
Mine shoot left about an inch from point of aim. Did you find that with yours?
It's cavalry, not calvary!
Is Taurus affiliated with S&W? 8:24
Either it's your shooting or the pistols sites. But that point of aim would bother me. I'm curious where number two shoots.
I’m pretty sure it’s my shooting but I’ll give number 2 a go and see.
Shot number 2. They both shoot about an inch left of point of aim. I tend to always shoot left with new guns until I get used to the trigger so our cameraman John shot it too. He also shot left. Well post a video soon.
You dent show the target and how it groups that is important
The groups are pretty good. I shoot left generally but the groups were probably 1" - 2"
"Much easier"? Not so sure?
The negatives for me is thst i watch lots of this videos, but what i almost never hear is how much the firearm costs!
You can find the Deputies of around 470 each, if you look around.
Wild Earp?
Please see the "Note" in the description.
is it all steel, or alloy?
The frame is steel & the cylinder & barrel are alloy.
Yaurus introduced a ssa close what like 25 ,20 years ago. Is this better or worse that that one. I know ruger improved on the vawuero because it was too big to be a legit colt ssa clone
Don’t get so attached how to pronounce Taurus,that isn’t even a Portuguese name so don’t worry about it
Taurus; when they’re out of Charter Arms and Pointy Sticks
Taurus' are good
What’s the 3rd click for?
"L"?
@@DaGunGuy””L”?” ??? Huh
@@yeeyee3855 they say the 4 clicks are for C-O-L-T ... so it was an attempt to be funny - which, apparently failed. No idea if there is a practical function to the 3rd click.
You get what you pay for
painted or blue? thanks
Not sure but it doesn't seem blued.
Is the caliber 45 long colt ?
The one reviewed in the video is 357
@@DaGunGuy i have a genuine 1849 colt it's 31 caliber it's non functional but I'm sure it could be worked on to make it work my dad left it to me I am currently trying to sell it the numbers match on the colt website any advice for me on trying to sell it ? The blue finish is worn but it is not rusted all to hell and you can still make out the stage coach robbery scene on the cylinder
No idea but please let us know what you get for it. I know those can be very valuable.
money was lar4ger back then
So is a 45 Colt chamber … just saying. But I’ll cut some paper to size and see if it works or gums it up. Stay tuned!
Why did it have to be 10$ bill. Why not 1$?
Folk lore has it the $10 was the cost of a funeral/ to get you buried if you lost a gun fight.
I want a real cowboy gun like in the movies. Those things were belt fed!
Better to compare it to a KIA, Honda is known for quality Taurus is not.
Do you really need to work on Annunciation in correct words
True
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It's pronounced biz lee
Taurus owns Rossi and now Heritage. Heritage makes the Badlander shotgun, Rossi the 92 rifle. You can outfit yourself for Cowboy Action with all Taurus stuff.
I have 2 Rossi 92s. LOVE THEM! (But I do love my Stoeger coach guns too). So almost all Taurus.
If it shoots to point of aim I am in. I can get a brace of Tauri for the price of one Ruger. Gone are the days of Ruger being the poor man's gun.
I do still want to get a Blackhawk though. Oddly they are cheaper than the fixed sight Vaquero.
The Taurus actually, at least for me, is more accurate than the Ruger. My Ruger shoots low, so I need my front site to be above my rear sites in my site picture to where I’m aiming. The problem is I don’t want to file down the front sites on the Ruger.
Everyones eyes are different but there are ways to 'adjust' guns with fixed sights... Colts did shoot high at close range. They were maybe regulated to shoot POA at about 30 yards. They point so well tho that Colt felt that anything less than about 15' you did not use the sights. I find this to be correct. my nightstand gun is a Uberti in 44 spl I can hip shoot cans at 10' pretty easy and point shoot out to 20 or more feet no problem.... sooooo night time... gonna be dark right? gonna need a gun that points well at short distance....Now my 1911's and other revolvers do point well and will do but I just love my Uberti 4.75" in 44 spl... call me old fashioned
LOL SASS I dont understand why you guys pay a ton of money on Gun and load them up to the power of a BB GUN
I hear ya. That's how I fell about Glocks.
USFA is the only company who ever made a "clone" of the SAA, a part-for part dimensionally accurate copy. This is not a clone, it is a replica, like the Uberti and Standard Mfg.
That's Cavalry not Calvary.
You may have managed Taurus, but it's cavalry, not calvary, and Bisley is pronounced Bis-ley, not Bise-ley
You know .333 will get you in Cooperstown right? ;)
Why would I want a gun named after child rapists?
Do some research. Colt didn't make a Buntline until 1955. You could order one with any barrel length you wanted before then but there was no Buntline Special. Colt records don't show Edward Zane Carroll Judson Sr. aka Ned Buntline ordering anything.
first thing I do with a revolver is check the dimensions of the chamber and slug the bore. I want them to match or near match with maybe the chambers being a thou more Ruger is notorious for undersize chambers... you can't get accuracy with .426 chambers and .430 bore for instance which... I have seen on 4 Ruger 44-40 guns.
@@doranmaxwell1755 I agree it’s a good thing to check, but I’ll tell you what the tolerances that they use today are much better than the original.