Flemish Twist Bowstring (Quick and Easy)
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- čas přidán 23. 02. 2019
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Making flemish twist bowstrings is easy and fun! This is a complete guide on how to make a flemish twist bowstring from start to finish.
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I just served my self-made string for my self-made bow. I'll be putting arrows down range any day now! Thanks for the great videos.
Only self-made arrows are left. ;)
But like how come a shoelace works literally just as well, I tested
I owe an apology to Mrs. Anderson. I told her in the 9th grade I'd never need math skills for anything fun...
When you graduated high school, did you look her in the eye and tell her...
"Goodbye. Misssssus Anderson."
I doubt she deserves the apology.
It’s supposed to be on teachers to make learning fun and to teach whatever subject(s) as such.
@@robertlombardo8437😊😊😊😊😊😊
don't think you need grade 9 math to do addition and multiplication
I love these videos. It's great watching you progress through your willingness to make mistakes. I think your scissors are marvelous.
I keep several pairs like that around. They get the job done...and they have never walk off.
I made a great B55 Flemish twist black on blue with your jig. Love the way it shot. Thank you.
That’s awesome!! You must have the patience of a saint!
After watching this video I realized how grateful I am to have just ordered a string from you. Thanks for the video, but thank you more for just building my strings for me..
3:17 Finally I found the wisdom, that I have sought for a very long time.
I am loving the Jig and the String making process! My fingers feel like the first time I learned to play guitar.
I learned from Clay Hayes how to make a Flemish twist string without a jig, and that knowledge will always be useful in a bind, but here lately I've been wanting to go into small business making strings and teaching bowyer knowledge and this has taught me a new level of professional development, thankyou
BRILLIANT well done Sir!
Man, I just love your videos. So informative, inspiring and full of great craftsmanship and practical knowledge/wisdom.
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Your channel is an awesome resource!!! At least knowing the basics of bowyer-ing and bladesmithing are crucial for anyone thinking in terms of survival.
I was taught to twist my strings from one end to the other ,the way you started yours it works better when serving a string ,then do a tie back weaving the string back along the track of the other fibers ,now I also do this on my long bows using artificial sinew
You started by tying off your string but I'd have secured the jig; my OCD flared up when I saw it moving around your benchtop. Keep the content coming because it's good and interesting and educational. Peace.
thank you my bowstring turned out amazing
Nicely done on this video, the one thing I will say, it is nice to see when you are dong the serving on it at the ending looping the whole spool thought the end on the inside of the loop, I have been doing it that way for 30 plus years, not too many folks do that in their videos but i do believe over many years of doing this, you can almost get a whole other string served with the amount of waste most folks have after cutting the string first then doing the loop. Thanks again for sharing and i hope you have a blessed week.
Dale
Heartland Outdoor Living that’s interesting, I just made my first string before watching this video and I did just that, instead of cutting it like the person did in the video I watched. It just makes sense :)
I have been doing it the same way since I started string making. I just figured most people would do it that way to save wastage, because you want to make your spool last as long as possible
Not sure why, but these videos are relaxing to watch
My kid has some even more dull scissors in her crayon box you could use if you like. Yours don't seem dull enough.
Yes I tried it came nicely and very good😍🤩🤩
Great job looks great thank you.
Damn. Flemish is art. Seems more complicated than endless loop but they always look nicer. I use a serving jig to keep it tight.
Great vid 👍
You are awesome buddy.
Really interesting! Please, could you make a video dedicated exclusively on how to make the nooses at the ends, possibly a little slower and more detailed? I think that's the most complex part of the whole procedure.
Thank you in advance.
I for one understood this very well, and the math you included is infinitely helpful. Awesome video brother. I guess all of the high school drop outs found this video.
Hello. I'm from flemish twist country Belgium, living in Flanders and speaking flemish. The traditional real flemish string was reinforced with a few short strands that were tapered in with the top loop (also at the bottom), and the string itself had to be 3ply since 2ply was considered inferior in medieval times. But, with modern string materials and the string itself not being fully twined (like the loop section) in the entire string, thats acceptable now. The flemish string commonly had a bowyers knot at the lower nock, not a loop. Once shot in, could well be that a second loop was split in, by opening up the twists, separating the plies on the end, and splitting in the plies backwards from where you want the loop. Now, I make my linnen strings, 3ply and 2 ply this way. Works great, even with heavy bows. My first ever linnen 3ply (9strands) still holds fine after hundreds of shots (67lb Elm selfbow). I dont use a jig, only a hook or even door knob. Takes about half an hour, but about 2hrs with a fully twined string. Fully twined gives a nice looking string too (like twined rope) a bit heavy but working great. Fully twined can be derived from early 16th C 'l'Art d'Archerie' (or The Art of Archery) where author described a string must look round and you should be able to clearly see the 3 separate plies when you untwine a string, and when letting go it should go back to a nice round string.
@@kramerammonsarchery I forgot to mention that in those days mostly hemp was used (or silk) and with the hemp they had to spin it themselves so they started out with much finer and longer yarn than you could get today, so a nice round string was better feasable than now. I start with 0,7 to 0,8mm linnen strands, in 3ply of 3strands so you can imagine that, even fully twined like with the loop, it looks round but not as round as you would get when you start off with fine yarn (hemp or silk).
Music is too distracting.
Cheers for the guide. Would recommend not throwing in so much sped up footage, makes it easier for us to follow the process.
Clear as mud
I made my first string it was 2” short not sure what I did but it came out ok. I think it has todo with the back twist I don’t get exactly what you are doing there.
Thank you so much
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Tack så mycket
This is kinda funny. I use waxed dental floss be (mostly) and recently stinging nettles, goose tendons, hemp, flax and yucca fibers. Have you ever heard of the overlap method? It's similar to the Flemish but doesn't use that lovely peg board of yours. My nots are different too. I figure nothing is approximate you need to adjust each individual bow. I really try not to rely on the tape measure too much and usually go by what feels right. Anyways it usually takes about 115 yards of dental floss for any of my bows. At most it costs 1$-2$. And it's available everywhere. I've had a d.f. string last 2 full seasons of shooting, brush and hunting. Give it a try!
Do you twist the strands in the same direction for both loops?
Will the measurements for this work for recurve bows? I just made my jig and have yet to make a string with it, and was just wondering if I need to go shorter an inch for recurve
So i am trying to do this for my first bow. However, the knot keeps undoing itself, any advice?
Ammm what is better, thinner or broader string for crossbow???
Instead of adding back twist before making the second loop I double my Flemish twist in the first loop, straighten the strands, and then making the second loop pulls half the flimush twist from the first loop. Takes guessing out of the mix :)
Awesome idea!
Literally the easiest and clearest tutorial I have seen on how to do this. Thank you!!
Still confused with the back twist ://
You should check out the emberverse book series. I did on audiobook
Does it matter much if you have two bundles or three?
Can we use straight bees wax for string wax? We have bee hives so there's just lots of it available.
Pure bee wax is the best if you have access to it
Can you do three ply bowstrings too?
Hey man do you ever sell any of your bows you make? Iv been to your site and didn't see any.
Hi Kramer, this is Roberto from Italy. I wached some of your video and now I subscribed to your channel. All the video contains interesting tips and experiences, I'll take into account when will start to make my first bow. I just have a request regarding general video editing: please lower the volume of the music during the speech.
Apart from my personal music preferences (I understand your use of loop jingle free from rights), it is annoying and make difficult to hear cleary what you say. Just that. Thank you. Cheers!
Would be good use pure bees wax for the string?
which direction do i twist the strings after i straightened them? also being left handed makes everything hard for me
id just reverse the twist, left side over the right , slow down the play back speed, just watch the twisting part again, through a mirror.
Do you back twist the bundle as a whole 20x or back twisting each color?
Each color
What string do you use?
anyone ever make a bow string form the inners of 550 cord, im thinking emergency/backup bow string .
endless loop would take what, close to 70ft?, i m guessing closer to 10ft for a flemish twist ( can spare 10ft of 550 cord)
550 cord has 7 core, so it would be a 14 strand ( or if not enough, a 7 strand)
I picked up my for my ben person cougar 7050 bow at a gargae sale for $30,
when i took it to get a string for it, the clerk told me i needed a 57" instead of 59" AMO 62"- ( new to archery and bought a 57" endless loop.)
My name is Sophia I am 13 I am trying to make my own bow and arrows I am having trouble with the string I thing maybe I should by the string at amizone
Hi. What's the purpose of the single central peg at one end? It doesn't seem to be used.
@@kramerammonsarchery Thank you.
I have made one to your spec, added a grooved brass strip to cut against. Not had chance to use yet.
Thanks for the tutorials.
I have done 4 strings so far off this video and all 4 have unraveled at one end when stringing bow...can someone please help me out?
You probably didn't do the untwisting right, not enough wax or something like that
Is there any particular serving material to use for the b55 Dacron Flemish twist bowstring? I'm seeing a lot of options and getting confused 😬 love your content! You're amazing! 💚💚💚 Keep at it!
You can actually just use the same dacron b55 if you like, or you can specifically get serving string. Either will work. Just need to watch how think the string is to ensure your knocks will fit/release properly.
Quick and easy?! Imagine if this was long and complicated.....
What about the nock point?
Can you ship to México ? If so do you have bows ? AND arrows?
He teaches how to make awesome bows. Check his other videos. All you need is a place to dirty with wood shavings.
Can anyone tell me if these measurements will be the same for a recurve
String length is typically dependent on AMO bow length. Longbow strings are usually 3 inches shorter than AMO length, while recurve strings are usually 4 inches shorter.
the key to a perfect flemish schlemish is the back twist after untwist.
but how do you make the string? do you use flax, nettle, horse hair or cat gut?
Hey bud just wondering why you did not use that middle peg that's beside those bunches of pegs
That is literally there as a peg to hold your spool of bow string. I have made the same jig Kramer is using, and that 1 peg seems useless but it's handy at times
@@StonedViper101 not gonna lie i figured it out after i made mine haha... very handy !
just finished my first string, made it in two colours, black and blue, but the blue string is bit longer then the black. when I twist the string in the end its kind get ok. is that a problem? Am I the only one with this problem??
from what I can tell, if the strings are different lengths before you twist everything up, that's okay. but if the strings are uneven in the loop or in the finished string, you have a problem. You don't want tension to be on one bundle more than the other
I would like to see a bow string made of 50# test spider wire fishing line.
That would be stretchy.
That would be a quick ass string for sure I been shooting since I was 11 my brother and I would get my sisters potatoes and shoot them in air lol then peel them and make French fries those were the days
So for longbows you make the
top loop 3 inch bottom 2 inch
How long do you make the recurve loops?
I make my strings to fit and a BIT extra, just large enough to not choke the bow. Exact measurements never work in my eyes with bows, make it to what you need it
Kramer has done another Flemish Twist video, called Advanced Flemish Twist, and in that video he makes a string for a recurve
Will this work for a 45# compound bow?
Only if you have teardrop cable ends.
Great videos but please the music !
top left to top center is NOT 5" (it's the hypotenuse of a triangle with sides 5" & 1.875" so it's 5.09"). Right?
What type of line do you use for the serving?
I use BCY Halo centre serving, and I'm pretty sure Kramer uses the same, either Halo or D97 I think
It occurs to me that the Flemish twist method has been used in rope making that goes back to way before there was a Flanders. Wonder how the name was arrived at?
Just a modern name for it.
Yeah I realised this is how most hardware ropes are made too 😅
have you ever restored old bow's? an old recurve maybe ? point me in the right direction? my grandma was a bare bow champion and is in the archery hall of fame. her name is Theresa Carter. she left the bow to my father and he just passed away last saturday. the bow isn't very expensive because she was very poor. but it's still a family heirloom. I would like to make it look original and display it out of respect for family heritage. and also carry on the tradition of bare bow target shooting to my young son. I live in the Los Angeles area and could ship it to a trustworthy source. thank you for your time.
Would you redo the video with steps that make it possible for people who have never done this to follow?
What part did you get stuck on? This is really straight forward stuff. Watch the video on 0.25x speed for the knots if you really need them.
I lost what this video was when you started saying numbers
I love this comment!
What was the thread you used at the start?
BCY B55
What kinda of string should be used? I might have not understood it when you said it, English is not my native language.
You'll be looking for B-55 Dacron bow string material. Comes in many colors. I'm sure there are other, but that's the one I know about.
@@jasonsexton8869 Welp, I went with silk and some natural wax that had good reviews.
I could NOT for the life of me figure out why my loop kept pulling loose, then you said you join the two colors together after the loop is formed to continue the twist, and it clicked. Thanks!
@@kramerammonsarchery is there a place I can send you a picture of the finished result? I'm actually kinda proud of my work for once :)
Kill the music!!!
I just use flex tape to hold my string on both ends
I can't figure out the back twist, my string keeps unraveling
ITS the same twist same direction
If ITS what i think
Im so confused. He said the end length will be 41 inches but when he measured it at the end it was exactly 56 inches. How is the straight string and the twisted string the same size. What was the point of subtracting 17 inches in the start? Shouldnt you add a few inches since when you twist the strings they will get shorter?
When he said 41" he was referring to how the set up of the jig is made. How he came up with the measurements for the centre adjustable dow spots. the way he did his math, the first adjustable hole is 41" however the string he was making was not for 41" that was just to show you how he got the measurements for the adjustable dow
Finally i dont have to use guns to hunts those toddlers around my neighborhood the neighbors complain about the noise from guns so now i will use bows
Wow, what a great video! Always wondered what was special about the Flemish twist but never had the ambition to look into it. Also, get a new pair of scissors! Watching those dull baby scissors attempt to cut is painful! :-)
As is watching the Jig move around so much, clamp it down for f**** sake! ; )
Nice video, another thing to add to my 'Retirement to-do list'.
Thanks
Ever tried to combine 652 and 8125?
Zero reason to do - different diameter raw materials.
@@stevebaker3618 Not exactly Zero reason... experimentation is a reason ☺
and the different diameter is no problem
It would be impractical, as they have different characteristics, they stretch at different rates, so you would have a string where some strands come lose and the others stay tight due to different stretch. For instance, B55 Dacron stretches almost twice as much as BCY 652 (fastflight) so if you used green B55 and blue 652 strings, then after a few uses you will find that the green string (B55) would stretch more and become lose while the blue string (fastflight) would still be the same length you made it
Can someone help me with the math made.
I got some old bows from a man I helped move and wanted a new string for one of them. I went to a local place to get one and the cashier made a comment that girls are rarely strong enough to pull back any bow so I’m making my own bowstring now ig
Yes, just tell him girls are strong enough to just make their own strings. Its not difficult if you understand it.
Does anyone know what that type of rope is called?
It's called a Flemish Twist, lol
Flemish twist bow strings have been made from hemp, flax, or linen for centuries. Today we use polyester. B50 Dacron is the trademarked mainstream item.
I have used hemp and polyester.
Y quítate esa cosa de la cara! Ni en la foto de perfil se quitan esa chingadera! No sabes que estás promoviendo cosas horribles al seguir con esa cosa?
@@zmartkooky244 I use BCY B55 Dacron and BCY 652, 100% Spectra (fastflight) for both endless loop and flemish twist
@@zmartkooky244 😂😂😂 funny guy
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Will a 750 Paracord work?
It will but it will stretch and won't be a tight efficient string but will work
Do not use paracord. Use B55 or B50
what string did you use
I think in this one probably B55:)
B55 or b50
Nice video, but please change the music...
Why?
B50 or D97 string, or what?
@@kramerammonsarchery I think Terry is asking what string material you're using. B50 is dacron and is used on traditional bows that don't have reinforced nocks. D97 is 100% SK75 dyneema, a high modulus polyethylene material. It's used in strings for bows with reinforced nocks. The former has more stretch and is more forgiving for traditional bows where there is a fear of nock splitting.
Kramer generally seems to support b55. It's not as stretchy and b50 but still gentler on the bow and smoother than d97 or fast flite
Now all this math made me sleepy. Taking a nap.
I am SERIOUSLY thinking about a new hobby
How about a hemp string on a hemp fiber backed bow?!
Smokin',
Either theres a fatal flaw in your video, or I'm just an idiot. When i get to the second loop, after untwisting. I measure out my length then add half an inch, from there i only have another couple inches until the end of my shortest taper. I think other people complaining about the "unraveling" have this same problem. In your video, theres plenty of length left when you begin to make your second loop. WHAT IS MISSING?
I think each loop should take 8 inches of strand, unless you took more than that on your first loop there should be no problem
Either not enough or too many backtwists. The 2 bundles should end up round and not look like 2 ropes twisted.
The background music really pi$$ed me off. The video would have been ten times better without the annoying, background "interference" !
Can i use a 62" bow string on a 60" bow ?
yes, and no
Yes, but it will be loose, so shorten it with a bowyers know/timber hitch or make another twist in it
TBH the 'music' makes this harder to follow, and that would especially be the case for those whom English isn't their first/native language..
why doesn't the string untwist?
friction and wax
@@hermanknief8487 I understand that. I've made a few bowstrings myself. What I am talking about is at 9:10.
"I give it a few twists", he twists the finished bowstring. Doesn't THAT come out?
@@mr.diontoahmed1134 No, you should be twisting in the same direction as your "flemish twist" for your loops and that should only make them tighter. The twist to the string overall can't come out once the string is on the bow, since the loops are then fixed in place by the bow itself.
@@hermanknief8487 When it's strung, it doesn't come out, sure. But I need to twist it every single time I string it, to adjust the brace height. I thought there was a magical way of waxing or something that doesn't untwist it, every time I unstring it.
Your scissors are uncomfortably dull...