New! $1,299 Ruixu Server Rack Battery. Works with EG4 18KPV! UL1973
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0:00 Intro
0:31 Tear Down
3:35 Building the System
6:17 Pros and Cons
14:39 Conclusion
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Hi Will. Great video as usual! Have you ever reviewed the server rack battery from Seplos? Do you have any thoughts on them?
@@jf5186 thanks! And everyone has told me that those have issues. And most distributor's sell them for more than the competition. Doesn't seem like a good product from what I'm hearing
What about the 280ah 48v server rack Docan is selling for 2600$
FYI - Ruixu (pronounced Rayshoo in traditional Chinese) = Rush in English according to google translate.
I will always appreciate you being willing to show your failures and your own mistakes and nearly always using it as an opportunity to educate. Not all folks doing these types of videos would be humble enough to do that.
That quality, at that price, is mighty tempting. Thanks for the teardown!
Edit: Lord almighty, that was an exciting bit of action when you tried to slide it in the first time! Impromptu spot welding attempt.
Just wanted to say hi Will and that you are awesome thank you for doing what you do day in and day out. We all know that this is your daily job however your passion and commitment and honesty shines through above all else. ❤❤❤
Wow, scary install. I've thought of that same scenario on my DIY server rack. You have a massive system. Good job, Will.
You go right ahead and ramble. I'd sit and listen to your ramble any day and learn and be informed. Thanks for the review.
Will, I listen to you when I need to calm down. It's relaxing to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about even if I don't understand half of what you say, but I'm trying.
@3:40 Glad you're having fun. Please don't die.
I was waiting an entire minute for this!
Great review. It is good to see more rack mount batteries to up the level of competition.
Will, so very impressed with your knowledge and success
I purchased an EG 4 server rack system with six batteries several months ago and the new cabinet has a door that latches and locks, very nice heavy duty wheels with locks, it is completely welded, it is a very nice cabinet. Somewhere I ran across a video stating that they have greatly upgraded their cabinets. From what I received versus what some others have I would have to agree that they are greatly improving them.
This is good to hear!
I'm looking at the EG4's right now myself....
Definitely the nicest looking of the three. And I love that it has a door. You'll never have to worry in the back of your mind about hitting exposed terminals.
The EG4 racks come with doors, not sure why Will doesnt have one.
@@enigma9789he probably got it a long time ago.
@@enigma9789 I believe he said they are not available, are they?
@@funnyautomation763 I dont know, but on signature solar's website the rack has a door and wheels
Will Prowse the mad scientist! Thank you for the show 😉👍
Will pointed out exactly what I was thinking about this company throughout the entire video - "I am WIll Prowse." If Ruixu sent this hardware to Will, what are the chances that Ruixu made a point to ensure the hardware was as close to perfect as possible? It's not unheard of for a company to send review units that are pristine, only to have the actual consumer product ship with poor quality construction.
That used to be the case with the 12V packs. But I'm not sure what they would change in this pack to lower the quality of construction. If they have the cell terminal welding machine and proprietary cell holders for the cells their using, and it's listed, it would be very difficult to make a "different" product for CZcamsrs. Also, anyone can open this in five seconds. So if that's the case, we will know quickly.
What is more likely is that they treat me well, but their customer service is horrible. That happens all the time
As an early adopter, I can attest to the external quality (I didn't tear it apart), packaging and timely responses to questions. Everything was in perfect shape and both powered on without a hitch, communicate with Victron flawlessly, in detail and charge up normal.
@@davidfifth6109 How long have you been using it??
No matter what, first production units are likely to have more attention, then manufacturing is likely to have issues shortly after startup, then those issues will typically be improved. That may be part of what happens too. In addition, what Will said is true too, they are much more likely to provide him better service than we mere mortals.
Really liking how more batteries are being offered
Hey, thanks for showing that short - I am a complete newb that was randomly curious about LiFePO4 backups out there(one thing led to another) and now I know about T-Class fuses and how these work(I understand better the risk of arcing in blown fuses, in general) :)
Another fantastic video as always. The Independence Day style fireworks were awesome. I'm glad it didn't hurt you or cause any damage
YES!! It's a great battery, even picking it up it just feels more "solidly built" than some of the others - it's hard to describe. I'm glad to see the rack finally. I had a picture but they were still finalizing the design of it when they sent me my battery. The lack of a circuit breaker is a bit of a bummer. It didn't care at first, but the more and more I work with my system, I'm finding it to simply be an excellent way of isolating a battery or batteries while working on things. I mean, I guess the amphenol plugs make up for it - simply yank one off.
Oh hey man!! I just saw your video yesterday. Watched every second and I was impressed! I was scared I would like it and you wouldn't haha I'm glad we agree!
Yeah the breaker is nice. Would be cool if they added it
I will say that Will demonstrated the worst case scenario and why a T class fuse is a very good idea. Using a mega fuse, I would be interested in seeing if it would actually work with that many surge amps behind it. I haven't blown a T class fuse yet, but I do have spares just in case.
@@john_in_phoenix I blew a T class once - a few years ago when my AIMS inverter shorted internally. I will say it was very impressive at how instantaneously it shut things down. It's definitely the way to go for these large battery builds.
@@LithiumSolar Yes, not something you want to do on purpose (those are expensive) but certainly a nice safety feature to have.
Awesome video once again thank you I'm almost ready too buy my system and install it!!! Thank you for everything you taught us !!! I've bin with you from the beginning 😊 looks like quality and price have evened out
You have made ElectroBoom proud! Well done! 😅😅
Love your videos man! Thank you so much fir sharing your knowledge with us!
Thx will for all your efforts, the only batteries I hope to see you add to your collection, are the AES 42-48-6650 from Discover. They don't come with racks. You'll have to build a sturdy shelve for them or mount them on a wall. I'd like to hear your comments on them (by the way, they only come in, 2,000 amp 24 volt, 3,000 amp and 6,650 amp 48 volt. Thx Will, you do an excellent job and aren't afraid to show you're human!
Thanks for showing your goof! Gives me confidence I can trust you.
Very interesting! I will be watching your future videos for any updates on the Ruixu batteries. Keep us informed. Just subscribed... GREAT videos
Great to see new companies entering into the space. The batteries will only get cheaper and better the next few years.
God-willing, that will be the case. It's currently the show stopper when putting together a well backed-up system for a home.
i wish the prices would drop. as right now i am priced out of the market.
but would like to know more about there warranty, processes.
but i do love the fully enclosed cabinet. with a locking door, great safety part.
👋👋👋 great review...lots of good information on how company can start improving... thought you were going to mention the EG4 Life power communication hub you have installed will be waiting on the review video...
Love the videos, we definitely learn a lot. Thanks Will!
Thanks for great review of recent server rack battery options. Love seeing you go over specifics. Also considering a DIY 48v 300 Ah build.
Thanks Will for your great reviews.
I agree so awesome
Will. You are knocking it out of the park on content over the past few weeks. What's got your fire going again?
Again well done Will thank you!😊
I agree with your comments about the design of the server rack. Having the cables routed through the top seems like a good idea. The over/under network connection is good idea also. That said, I don't like the on/off switch being located under the negative cable. You should not have to move the wires to turn the battery on/off. The on/off switch should be somewhere in the center face area to make is easy to reach and operate.
You are a very good CZcamsr.
This dude knows his stuff
Thanks for explaining the short
Looks like a nice unit; looks like it actually has a standard rack height too (the EG4's are about 3.5U which can make them akward to fit, this looks like it could be 3U on the dot)
Will, another great video! I've been enjoying your content for years, keep it going! I enjoyed this review and completely share your enthusiasm in spite of the potential caveats. I just pulled the trigger for the RUiXU 30kwh battery rack for a new solar system I'm installing in my home.
How are you feeling about your system after 6+ months?
@@KyleSindlinger Runs like a sewing machine. No issues. Intend to purchase a second rack shortly.
Good to hear-thanks for the response! May I ask what inverter you’re using with the battery bank? I’m planning to use the EG4 6000xp. Also, with regard to Ruixu, my biggest concern, like probably everyone, is how they will handle potential warranty/customer service/technical support issues.
@@KyleSindlinger Sol-Ark 15k. Only time will answer yor concern. So far, Ruixu has been very responsive to every question I've asked. Since they originally released, they've also extended their warranty from 7 to 10 years. I'm also told their UL9540 Certification is due out very soon. I've paused on my next purchase to see if their new 14.3kWh battery bank will communicate seemlessly with the existing Rack systems. If so, I will likely go in that direction since the form factor is so much more compact. Specs and pricing should be released shortly.
I really appreciate your test a 3:42! At least I now know it's not just me (I mean that with the utmost respect). Well done, whoops that didn't sound right.... Great job and THANK YOU for explaining and sharing. Please Stay Safe!
Cool. Price seems good but including shipping and the waiting/delay I will stick with EG4 for now.
"I'm Will Prowse, they're gonna answer immediately". I love it!! 👍👍🤣🤣
Great review 👏👏👏
Like always will , good video man.
That spark scared me
Yeah that was pretty bad haha
We were watching Will, intensely, after that spark. Talk about jumping out of your seat! ⚡️😮
I’m wondering if the first battery should’ve been turned off too? The one you pushed in that caused the spark!
I haven't done that in ages. I was pretty disappointed in myself. I slid the other packs in but totally forgot I was using oversized cables now. They protrude into the area where the first pack slides in. Thought it's good to show others as a lesson. Could have turned out much worse
@@WillProwse any way we're glad nothing bad happened to you or your setup
Warranty is a big issue when spending that kind of money. I don't see much of a savings over EG4 to take that risk.
And these are pre-launch. They know people are going to be ripping them apart to look at them. Let's see what they look like 6 months after launch.
Now that’s…. a review ! Thank you will .
Will, excellent video as always. I purchased your book two years ago and learn a lot from it. I wish if you could do a schematic of a complete system usen those Ruxiu batteries/rack. I live in Panamà Central America and no one sells those type of batteries here. Thanks again Will...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
RUiXUs are a much cleaner build and more compact when racked vs the others. The space saving in itself would be great to have a 4 stack in a van.
I currently have 4 SOKs ready to be installed in my van with Victron MultiPlus IIs in parallel. Wish this came along sooner.
Will, good video and I appreciate your honesty when reviewing products. It appears though that these batteries do not not have US or Canadian certification. If your house burns down because of these batteries, you insurance will not cover you.
Just ordered 4 of the heated version of these!
I'd love to have 3 of these for my skoolie!
$1149 now!!! Love what you're seeing
The quality of all these products has come up so much that we're now reduced to complaining about whether the cables look good or not; or speculating about the future prospects of the company. Well Done @WillProwse!
Nice sparks! 😀
Will, you do a nice job and you certainly have the passion. You are young and need to pursue this professionally. Enroll in an Electrical Engineering BSEE course, you will never regret it.
Idk how Will makes his money other than this CZcams channel. Maybe he builds battery systems for customers who find him through this channel. But he never advertises his business here.
@@restfulplace3273 Will has stated his income sources on prior vids. CZcams, affiliate links and his books that are available on CZcams. He does not build or consult. There are liability concerns.
EDIT: Books are on Amazon not You Tube
@@restfulplace3273besides the books he mines bitcoin as well. Hell with all that solar coming in it's basically free money
It's good that these companies continue to copy what's working and improve design and performance.
I just invested in EG4 6500EX-48 & EG4 LL. Will changes be needed for that inverter? If I want to add these to mine, with the comm still work? $50 per battery vs EG4 Lifepower4, and $300 vs the LL.
Dang you're so good at this!! And I loved the "... but I'm Will Prowse..." ! It's well-deserved confidence and your reputation really permeates this subject. Thanks for all the work. Side note, friends in MI whose power was out for days had no back up - I shared your EG4/Hand truck vs Eco Flow video. Keep it up!
I know you say Signature Solar has a warranty, but it took me THREE MONTHS and innumerable contact to get my warranty issues taken care of. They need to up their game.
Thanks Will!
I just want to be you when I grow up- have new batteries in the mail to review every morning
Thank you will this was informative and interesting six stars
These batteries are awesome!
The video reminded me of when I accidentally shorted a can capacitor poking around a HV circuit. The screw driver partially vaporized. Took several minutes to recover my vision after the blue flash.
Holy cow!!!! That's awful :(
All early videos “be sure to wear safety glasses when working with batteries”. After spark event, Will dons the safety glasses.
Thanks Will
Got to love a new entry into a market already violating warranty law.
wow greetings from germany god job
If your from the UK go with fogstar rack battery 8 year warranty with heater built in, pace bms ,touch screen eve grade a cells batched tested in the UK aswell
I so agree with you on the SOK batteries. If they had a nice cabinet that could hold 6 batteries and looked good they would be great, but because I get one free battery by buying the EG4 there is no contest.
I sure wish Will wold have just tested if an EG4 battery would fit in this rack because they will sell that rack for $559 and those EG4 batteries would sure look good in that silver rack.
Ruixu has done a pretty good job at getting these TopBand designs to market first. There is now competition form Maple Leaf Power in Canada selling them as the "Beaver" and in the UK it looks like FogStar has these units and are calling them the R51100A. There are also self-heating versions coming to market in early 2024 from Ruixu and Maple Leaf... so if you need self-heat then hold off!
Wow, I might consider this for my 30k off grid system I plan to build soon. Thanks! Will you do a capacity test?
More and more options for budget lifepo4 batterys. Thank you will.
They leveled up
Will, you need to post your outtakes and excitement collection. To prove your human and have a good laugh.
I like that they are offering their rack separately - with no requirements. Both EG4 and now SOK require that you've bought some of their batteries or they won't sell you a rack.
The quality on server rack batteries are getting better and better together with the price. However, a DIY battery is still much cheaper so that's still my preferred solution. personally I will only pay around 15-20% more for a prebuilt battery compared to a DIY one.
"of course I'm Will Prowse"
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Will, you are supposed to save fireworks for the 4th of July!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Love ur vids, always so much info! I've been trying to upgrade my RV batteries and have been scouring aliexpress, any suggestions? I wanna fit 15-20kwh at 48v with a 240 outlet outside to run a welder😅 but Im nervous about vibrations and you know...death 🤷♂️
It is good to hear from you Will. I haven't seen much from you lately. I was afraid that we were losing you to other pursuits. Just for shits and giggles, what do you think of these batteries that are DIY and are made of 18650's, 32650's etc.? It is apparent that they are labor intensive, and that is OK for someone with the time I would guess. I would think that used cells would be suicidal, but I am not sure that I trust even new cells.
Bloopers! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the demo and talk. I'm just not clear as to why exactly the short occurred - even going thru the video frame by frame does not show the problem. Would be nice to know exactly what went wrong.
Great video as well. Going off grid soon too.
I have also some spare network racks like yours that I will use.
Since EE I will have a braker or fuse between bus plus bar and inverter, just in case (and I can turn off the whole rack). May you come up with an solution as well?
Waiting for EG4 to get UL9540 2nd edition approval for ESS, would be cool if RIUXU also tried to get approval for this. EG4 may or may not what to cooperate with that ;-)
UL 9540 is a safety standard for energy storage systems. For energy storage systems connected to a utility grid, the UL 9540 standard extends to the equipment used to make that connection. This standard pertains to fire and explosion safety concerns associated with ESS, including:
The safety of the storage (battery) component during operation
Fire detection
Fire propagation and suppression
Fire mitigation effectiveness in enclosed areas
I’d really like to see this topic discussed more. Hopefully Will will pick this up
I’d love to see you review a pylontech server rack or a BYD 15.4 LVL like I am using.
yes, ruixu is good design for the server rack battery. but, it still should consider cercuit breaker to prevent short cercuit from all possible damage like you accidentally did when installing and monitor if communication fall and cause some battery accident like bms broke, battery itself broke, wire disconnect, etc. monitor detects those failure so easy. breaker prevents from catching fire. i am looking forward waiting for the new product that manufacturer make in this market. thanks for the video. it was informative.
Can you do a video of using a server rack battery in a van build?
Great video... thanks. Just noticed that the bottom battery lights were not on or flashing in the rack near the end of the video... did you possibly not turn that one on? Just curious. Oh, and that short circuit sparks would have scared the s**t out of me. Please be more careful.
I'm still of a fan of buying cells from Alibaba. 2p16 with 304Ah per cell is about 5000 euros (or less) for 32kWh (but obviously I wouldn't push them beyond 3.45V or below 3.0V, but the capacity is minimal beyond those bounds) and I've tested the first batch of 16 and they're all over spec (average about 313Ah). Fingers crossed for the next batch (I bought 4 more to ensure I don't have any turkeys).
OK, I had to spend 1,000 euros for the REC BMS setup (which is great quality) for my SMA Sunny Island 8.0H inverter, but it's great quality.
OK, it's not as cool as rack-mounted, but it's fine for a hybrid system, in my opinion.
Which supplier did you use.
@@clarke6436 QSO
😂, yeah at 4:50am I jumped when you pushed that battery in the rack!!! Thanks for the wake up!! Hahaha
RUiXU compares to well Pytes E-Box. I don’t like the big side bus bars being so close to the front interferences, Too much risk. Having side access to the busbars would be better. I do love the top exit of the cables in that rack. I wish Victron made a 6 or 8 channel Lynx.
Enjoy watching your videos, how do you set up the EG4 18K to work with the EG4 Powerpro and the Ruixu batteries? Do they both have the same settings?
Should they move the power switch to not be under the wire?
Was the short caused by the handles touching the terminal?
If they added circuit breakers and move that power switch it seems like it would be perfect?
And thank goodness you started wearing those long-sleeved anti static / shock shirts.😅
Hahah love to see you do mistakes let’s go sparks ⚡️
I just bought the new RX-LFP48100-H
Nice 👍🏻
Will, what lift table are you using, where did you get it ? I’ve been trying to find one that lifts high enough for the eg4 rack.
Hi, I have been watching your stuff for a long time. Now working my way up the lithium ladder.
Off subject, but what is your suggestion on batteries For my truck camper going to lithium.
I have 212 V deep cells. Now that are not cutting it. But my charge controller will only do 13.6 Which is built-in, so it would be a pain to change all that.. Any suggestions.
You do a great job, by the way and I just love listening to your voice.
Thanks Eric.
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